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Fadman4real:
The bible says clearly that we should not make any image of anything in heaven or on earth. So I can't have an image of God.

God expects to be worshipped in spirit and in truth, you believe man is a spirit can you show me a picture of your spirit?

I am not a salesman, I am only helping you to discover the truth. You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

I would soon post a thread talking about historical and psychological proof of Jesus Christ existence. Hope to see you there, may God protect us till then.

The bible says? So your god isn't humans? And I can guess you have no clue what your god looks like? You cannot claim it is a a spirit since it landed on mount sinai, it was claimed to have walked in the garden etc

I do know your god more than you then. I know what your god is like and I have a picture

Obviously you ain't a good sales man. And Jesus? That isn't even a jewish name,is it?

ifeness:
The bible says? So your god isn't humans? And I can guess you have no clue what your god looks like? You cannot claim it is a a spirit since it landed on mount sinai, it was claimed to have walked in the garden etc

I do know your god more than you then. I know what your god is like and I have a picture

Obviously you ain't a good sales man. And Jesus? That isn't even a jewish name,is it?

Meaning "salvation" in Hebrew, it was also the most common form of the name Jesus when he was alive hence the name corresponds to the Greek spelling Iesous, from which, through the Latin Iesus, comes the English spelling Jesus. The Hebrew spelling Yeshua (ישוע) appears in some later books of the Hebrew Bible.

You cant have a picture of God what you have is an imagination of someone who claims he can create God probably that painting of zeus. God cannot be a human being, He is a supernatural being, If you read the bible you would know that God never landed on mount sinai Moses only saw a part of his glory and it was described as uncommon and unparallel light even the Jews could not look at the face of Moses because the glory was too much.

The angels of God are also described as spirits but they could take human forms to appear to us when God sends them to give us a message. No one can explicitly say what exactly Adam and Eve saw in the garden of Eden because we were not there, we could only suggest that God appeared in human form to comunicate with them.

The bible says that is only if we are righteous and holy that we can see God, even after Moses saw a little of God's glory the Isrealites could not look at his face because of their iniquity. I pray you become eligible to see God in his glory.

Where is the picture of your spirit, thought you believed man is a spirit?
Can you also if you are less busy get me a video of your brain working, I would be really gratefull.

Fadman4real:
Meaning "salvation" in Hebrew, it was also the most common form of the name Jesus when he was alive hence the name corresponds to the Greek spelling Iesous, from which, through the Latin Iesus, comes the English spelling Jesus. The Hebrew spelling Yeshua (ישוע) appears in some later books of the Hebrew Bible.

You cant have a picture of God what you have is an imagination of someone who claims he can create God probably that painting of zeus. God cannot be a human being, He is a supernatural being, If you read the bible you would know that God never landed on mount sinai Moses only saw a part of his glory and it was described as uncommon and unparallel light even the Jews could not look at the face of Moses because the glory was too much.

The angels of God are also described as spirits but they could take human forms to appear to us when God sends them to give us a message. No one can explicitly say what exactly Adam and Eve saw in the garden of Eden because we were not there, we could only suggest that God appeared in human form to comunicate with them.

The bible says that is only if we are righteous and holy that we can see God, even after Moses saw a little of God's glory the Isrealites could not look at his face because of their iniquity. I pray you become eligible to see God in his glory.

Where is the picture of your spirit, thought you believed man is a spirit?
Can you also if you are less busy get me a video of your brain working, I would be really gratefull.

What was that part of "his glory" moses saw? Actually that story didn't really belong to moses. The original person saw a spacecraft,nothing more

All you believe is nothing but lies mr. You are better off making yourself useful to humanity.

Fadman4real:
Meaning "salvation" in Hebrew, it was also the most common form of the name Jesus when he was alive hence the name corresponds to the Greek spelling Iesous, from which, through the Latin Iesus, comes the English spelling Jesus. The Hebrew spelling Yeshua (ישוע) appears in some later books of the Hebrew Bible.

You cant have a picture of God what you have is an imagination of someone who claims he can create God probably that painting of zeus. God cannot be a human being, He is a supernatural being, If you read the bible you would know that God never landed on mount sinai Moses only saw a part of his glory and it was described as uncommon and unparallel light even the Jews could not look at the face of Moses because the glory was too much.

The angels of God are also described as spirits but they could take human forms to appear to us when God sends them to give us a message. No one can explicitly say what exactly Adam and Eve saw in the garden of Eden because we were not there, we could only suggest that God appeared in human form to comunicate with them.

The bible says that is only if we are righteous and holy that we can see God, even after Moses saw a little of God's glory the Isrealites could not look at his face because of their iniquity. I pray you become eligible to see God in his glory.

Where is the picture of your spirit, thought you believed man is a spirit?
Can you also if you are less busy get me a video of your brain working, I would be really gratefull.

The Bible claimed the children of Israel saw the craft and the sound was "like a mighty rushing wind" ,am I wrong? What does that remind you of? Unless you wanna be dishonest you would say you do not know

Exodus 19;16-19

Then Moses brought the people out of the camp to meet God, and they took their stand at the foot of the mountain. 18 Now Mount Sinai was wrapped in smoke because the Lord had descended on it in fire. The smoke of it went up like the smoke of a kiln, and the whole mountain trembled greatly. 19 And as the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke, and God answered him in thunder. 20 The Lord came down on Mount Sinai, to the top of the mountain. And the Lord called Moses to the top of the mountain, and Moses went up."

If the bible god was an ET,the so called angels are also the same.

Apparently the above passage is where the so called "fear of god" was originated. Yea he landed on a mountain,meaning this god visits the planet on some thundering noise. What could this thundering noise be? @Fadman4real

@Fadman4real don't go about giving me bible passages,kindly explain this particular one

Remilekun101:
What is a sound mind

Google it.

ifeness:
Apparently the above passage is where the so called "fear of god" was originated. Yea he landed on a mountain,meaning this god visits the planet on some thundering noise. What could this thundering noise be? @Fadman4real

How could I know, was I there, it was only reported to me as a story and by the way that is not the foundation of christianity.
You are getting christianity all wrong our foundation is in Christ, if you or any atheist wants to attack christianity then you have to do more research about Jesus Christ. You keep saying he doesnt exist despite the historical proof about his existence.

As i said before, people would die for what they believe is true not for what they know to be a lie or according to you the disciples did not also exist.

Fadman4real:
How could I know, was I there, it was only reported to me as a story and by the way that is not the foundation of christianity.
You are getting christianity all wrong our foundation is in Christ, if you or any atheist wants to attack christianity then you have to do more research about Jesus Christ. You keep saying he doesnt exist despite the historical proof about his existence.

As i said before, people would die for what they believe is true not for what they know to be a lie or according to you the disciples did not also exist.

You stylishly dodged my questions as usual. Explain the thundering noise landing on mount Sinai! You refused,in stead you are talking about foundation of christianity. Isn't you whole bible about christianity?

ifeness:
You stylishly dodged my questions as usual. Explain the thundering noise landing on mount Sinai! You refused,in stead you are talking about foundation of christianity. Isn't you whole bible about christianity?

Exo 20 18-19 : All the people perceived the thunder and the lightning flashes and the sound of the trumpet and the mountain smoking; and when the people saw it, they trembled and stood at a distance. 19 Then they said to Moses, "Speak to us yourself and we will listen; but let not God speak to us, or we will die."…

That was when moses was giving the law to the people and the reason behind that thundering noise is in verse 22-23 "And the LORD said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the people of Isreal: 'You have seen for yourselves that I have talked with you from heaven. 23 You shall not make gods of silver to be with me, nor shall you make for yourselves gods of gold.""

According to the laws given to Moses the people of God are not allowed to make an image or an idol of God on the earth. Jesus Christ said it all when he said we are to worship God in spirit and in truth. John 4:23: “But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to worship Him". So you can see here that because the God we serve is not man made we know that the Holy Spirit of God rests in us, therefore we worship in Spirit and truth by writing his laws in our heart that we may not sin against him.

By the way I also asked you to produce the picture of your spirit since you believe man is a spirit or have you changed your belief?

freecocoa:
Google it.

smh. and you call yourself a sound mind yet you don't know the meaning

Fadman4real:
Exo 20 18-19 : All the people perceived the thunder and the lightning flashes and the sound of the trumpet and the mountain smoking; and when the people saw it, they trembled and stood at a distance. 19 Then they said to Moses, "Speak to us yourself and we will listen; but let not God speak to us, or we will die."…

That was when moses was giving the law to the people and the reason behind that thundering noise is in verse 22-23 "And the LORD said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the people of Isreal: 'You have seen for yourselves that I have talked with you from heaven. 23 You shall not make gods of silver to be with me, nor shall you make for yourselves gods of gold.""

According to the laws given to Moses the people of God are not allowed to make an image or an idol of God on the earth. Jesus Christ said it all when he said we are to worship God in spirit and in truth. John 4:23: “But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to worship Him". So you can see here that because the God we serve is not man made we know that the Holy Spirit of God rests in us, therefore we worship in Spirit and truth by writing his laws in our heart that we may not sin against him.

By the way I also asked you to produce the picture of your spirit since you believe man is a spirit or have you changed your belief?

wdf! You still didn't explain that thundering noise they heard nor did you explain the "glory of god" that landed on the mountain. You stylishly evaded the question again.

I will ask you again. Kindly describe the "glory of god" that landed on the mountain with a heavy smoke and thundering noise that shook the mountain?. I need you to explain what landed and not why it landed.

My posting the picture will be determined by your answer.

The OP should have limited his post to the question at the end, which I consider relevant and interesting.
The rest of his post invalidates an open discussion, with as a result that the thread is already totally derailed and off topic...

Tufanja:
The OP should have limited his post to the question at the end, which I consider relevant and interesting.
The rest of his post invalidates an open discussion, with as a result that the thread is already totally derailed and off topic...

@bolded, I doubt that was his intent

hahn:
@bolded, I doubt that was his intent

Maybe it was the OP's intent to have an open discussion...but it doesnt feel so...the OP starts with a story that makes little sense unless as a bedside story. Apart from that he gives a faulty definition of atheists. It all takes away the focus on the question and the appetite to respond on topic.

Besides, the comment of the OP that "he will be off to workship "his" Lord" is not so relevant either...what exactly is the added value of this comment? Somehow i feel it is more than just informing us that he wont be able to comment in the coming hours...

Tufanja:
Maybe it was the OP's intent to have an open discussion...but it doesnt feel so...the OP starts with a story that makes little sense unless as a bedside story. Apart from that he gives a faulty definition of atheists. It all takes away the focus on the question and the appetite to respond on topic.

Besides, the comment of the OP that "he will be off to workship "his" Lord" is not so relevant either...what exactly is the added value of this comment? Somehow i feel it is more than just informing us that he wont be able to comment in the coming hours...

It wasn't the op's intent to start an open conversation. He was only trying to state his own understanding of atheism and point of the threat it poses to his own belief. Like most theists, he has already come to a conclusion on what he believes atheism is all about and tried presenting his understanding as facts without even researching on his own religion properly.

It's obvious he is uninformed about atheism as he is uninformed about his own religion and that is why I didn't even bother replying his reply to my last comment. Ifeness is on that now.

ifeness:
wdf! You still didn't explain that thundering noise they heard nor did you explain the "glory of god" that landed on the mountain. You stylishly evaded the question again.

I will ask you again. Kindly describe the "glory of god" that landed on the mountain with a heavy smoke and thundering noise that shook the mountain?. I need you to explain what landed and not why it landed.

My posting the picture will be determined by your answer.

How am I supposed to know about the thundering noise, was I there? Can you explain how you were born?

Fadman4real:
How am I supposed to know about the thundering noise, was I there? Can you explain how you were born?

Ain't you curious to know what the thundering noise that landed on the mount Sinai could be? You don't wanna question that? You don't think it's worth knowing the noise that landed on the mountain, the voice that the children of Israel heard and trembled ? Who did Moses go up to see on the mountain? Do you think a spirit will land on a mountain ?

It is a silly question to ask me to explain how I was born. Everyone knows how babies are born.

Explain that stuff that landed on the mountain to give the 10 commandment!!!

Gods of the mountain

Remilekun101:
smh. and you call yourself a sound mind yet you don't know the meaning

Not knowing the meaning and not telling you are tow different things, so don't kid yourself.

ifeness:
Ain't you curious to know what the thundering noise that landed on the mount Sinai could be? You don't wanna question that? You don't think it's worth knowing the noise that landed on the mountain, the voice that the children of Israel heard and trembled ? Who did Moses go up to see on the mountain? Do you think a spirit will land on a mountain ?

It is a silly question to ask me to explain how I was born. Everyone knows how babies are born.

Explain that stuff that landed on the mountain to give the 10 commandment!!!

It is also a silly question because we all know how thunder sounds, don't we there was nothing written about any type of different noise other than trembling noise.

Moses was given the tablets of the ten commandments that God wrote.

Fadman4real:
It is also a silly question because we all know how thunder sounds, don't we there was nothing written about any type of different noise other than trembling noise.

Moses was given the tablets of the ten commandments that God wrote.

The Spirit of God could easily have come as loud as the beating of a butterfly's wings but why that of thunder? Was it a dramatic effect to scare the Israelites?