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Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:02pm On Nov 14, 2015
Pyrrho:
Kingebuka... is delusional, demented and brain-dead
I think the uneducated ones are throwing the ad hominems already . I said from my researches done , here are three interpretations . Meaning those were seen from different perspectives . And I didnt even include the allegorical one . I didnt reach a conclusion and I mentioned someone who explained a particular perspective better .

Olodo . Isn't it funny that you insulted me with those and those actually pointed back at you .
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:05pm On Nov 14, 2015
hahn:
Where exactly is it written in the bible that Eve slept with the snake? And how can a human and snake produce a human without snake traits?
I will create a thread scrutinizing every single perspective of the creation story I have come across . And your question na wa . I clearly said humanoid na , or dont you understand what being humanoid is ? Haba!
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by Nobody: 4:07pm On Nov 14, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
I think the uneducated ones are throwing the ad hominems already . I said from my researches done , here are three interpretations . Meaning those were seen from different perspectives . And I didnt even include the allegorical one . I didnt reach a conclusion and I mentioned someone who explained a particular perspective better .

Olodo . Isn't it funny that you insulted me with those and those actually pointed back at you .
Confirmed undecided
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m):
Pyrrho:
Confirmed undecided
Oh yes ... you are

1. Delusional

You had a false belief - you thought those were mine - despite clear evidence to the contrary.

2. Demented

Your reasoning is non functional because you couldn't decipher that those were perspectives from different sources and that was clearly implied - "From my researches in past times , I discovered three interpretations " and "See , the third one could be heretical and I've always avoided using it . One and Two are the most sensible ."

3. Brain - dead

You are just a pillock . Mentally unstable , deranged and incapable of any form of intelligent deduction
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by dalaman:
KingEbukasBlog:
If this implies being lost , then ifeness is in oblivion . This is the religion section and it says : "Share your faith and belief in God ... " - that was/is/will be what I had done /have done /will continue doing .

I clearly said that I had done researches and those were the interpretations given

You are giving me more reasons to call you uneducated every single day
Why does God's word need 3 different interpretations? Why can't the word of a God that wants people to get to know him and be in a relationship with him not be very clear? Humans as confused as they are sometimes make very clear cut messages. Why can't the word of this God of yours be as clear as the multiplication table? You guys just keep making things up as you go just because you want to make sense of the writings of ancient Jew who thought the earth was in existence before the sun and other stars. You guys are jokers.
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by dalaman: 4:30pm On Nov 14, 2015
hahn:
Where exactly is it written in the bible that Eve slept with the snake? And how can a human and snake produce a human without snake traits?

@kingebukasblog
In the world of mythology and fiction anything is possible. KingEbukasBlog can give birth to a rat in the world of mythology and fiction. Nothing is impossible when it comes to fiction and mythology. He doesn't need to explain anything to you. All he needs is to make up more absurd stories as explanation to the original mythical tale.
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by Nobody: 4:31pm On Nov 14, 2015
hahn:
Where exactly is it written in the bible that Eve slept with the snake? And how can a human and snake produce a human without snake traits?

@kingebukasblog
it's not.

also, satan isn't mentioned in the old testament. neither is hell.
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by dalaman: 4:31pm On Nov 14, 2015
Pyrrho:
Kingebuka... is delusional, demented and brain-dead
grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:32pm On Nov 14, 2015
dalaman:
Why does God's word need 3 different interpretations? Why can't the word of a God that wants people to get tp knoq him and be in a relationship with him not be very clear? Humans as confused as they are sometimes make very clear cut messages. Why can't the word of this God of yours be as clear as the multiplication table? You guys just keep making things up as you go just because you want to make sense of the writings of ancient Jew who thought the earth was in existence before the sun and other stars. You guys are jokers.
The Word of God is Jesus . Honestly , you guys are the ones concerned with the biblical stories and I'm not . I came here to discuss relevant issues and make fun of you guys . Please help me stick to the plan smiley
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by dalaman: 4:33pm On Nov 14, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
The Word of God is Jesus . Honestly , you guys are the ones concerned with the biblical stories and I'm not . I came here to discuss relevant issues and make fun of you guys . Please help me stick to the plan smiley
And which of the 3 different and confusing explanations did Jesus who you say is the word of God tell you is the right one? Say it out lets hear.
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by Nobody: 4:36pm On Nov 14, 2015
Rilwayne001:
lool! Hope you've read your bible your bible today; the book of confusion that is? wink grin
Lol, sure have
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by Nobody:
KingEbukasBlog:
From my researches in past times , I discovered three interpretations
1. Snakes had the power of speech before it was taken away from them - I've told plaetton this
Quite convenient. How else would a snake be able to converse with a human?

KingEbukasBlog:
2. The event was a mystical one - Satan used the snake as a tool meaning it possessed it which enabled it to talk or Satan spoke through the snake
Wonder why he would disguise himself by using a snake to deceive Eve.

KingEbukasBlog:
3. The snake was humanoid and had a sexual interest in Eve and Satan discovering this used it . The snake beguiled Eve which implied seduction and slept with her to bring forth Cain . Cain was not totally human that's why he had that evil knowledge of murder - killing his own brother .
I'm sure snakes also had 6-packs back in the days.

KingEbukasBlog:
See , the third one could be heretical and I've always avoided using it . One and Two are the most sensible . Even the donkey in the Balaam's story was used as a tool to rebuke Balaam .
What make them sensible? Did you just use 'logic' as a basis for accepting a religious interpretation? sad shocked
What exactly is wrong with the third verse? You believe GOD slept with Mary, impregnated her, and gave birth to himself. Why don't you consider that heresy?

KingEbukasBlog:
Chill out bro . At your own peril if you choose to ridicule the creation story
Enough with the warnings. If your bullshit beliefs contain any truth, I'm already a condemned soul. So your warnings of peril and danger do not scare me, neither do they add any truth to your claims.

The creation story in the Bible is a myth, simple as that. Feel free to glean any mysteries or revelations you desire.
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by Nobody: 4:54pm On Nov 14, 2015
UyiIredia:
.....In conclusion, there are 3 magic words. Please, which is used to make a request. Thanks, when a request is granted and Sorry, when a request has been disobeyed. Why didn't Adam simply apologize for eating the fruit. Till today atheists still blame God for planting the tree and not Adam for eating it. They are impolite, and proud ingrates with respect to their Creator.
There are many 'Creators'. The God of the Bible appears to be the most confused of them all.
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by hahn(m): 5:01pm On Nov 14, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
I will create a thread scrutinizing every single perspective of the creation story I have come across . And your question na wa . I clearly said humanoid na , or dont you understand what being humanoid is ? Haba!
Is it in the bible? What's the verse that says the snake was humanoid?

Teempakguy:
it's not.
also, satan isn't mentioned in the old testament. neither is hell.
dalaman:
In the world of mythology and fiction anything is possible. KingEbukasBlog can give birth to a rat in the world of mythology and fiction. Nothing is impossible when it comes to fiction and mythology. He doesn't need to explain anything to you. All he needs is to make up more absurd stories as explanation to the original mythical tale.
Man, you no fit imagine as I take shock after I read am undecided

He must have read it in the kingebukasblog version of the bible grin tongue
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by Rilwayne001: 5:13pm On Nov 14, 2015
MzNelly:
Lol, sure have
Good of you, you ain't going to burn in hell wink cheesy
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by Nobody: 5:55pm On Nov 14, 2015
Pyrrho:
[b]My disbelieve in the Bible started when I asked a simple question in church...

Why would God, omniscient, choose to punish the children of Adam (the whole world) for the sin of an unintelligent woman.

The reply was even more dumbfounding.. I was told to be patient till I get to heaven and ask God, or Jesus christ. Later the teacher called me and said, "pray the holyspirit reveals this to you".

WTF?

Then I began to do my research independently. And guess what?
There are older books than the Bible, if only it hadn't been carefully organised and edited, it's many flaws would have been easy to point out.

Like someone on nairaland keeps saying, religions kills the curious mind from a tender age, that is why we have a lot of adults blindly following faith, and post thrash everyday on Nairaland.

The least you religious folk can do is accept that you know nothing about God. Admit you are blindly follow faith without reasoning, tell your children, and show some respect to human intelligence.[/b]
Ur question is so inappropriate, sacrilegious, misguided and sexist that I shouldn't even be responding to u but here I am.

He didn't punish Adam for Eve's sin. He punished Eve for her sin and punished Adam for his own sin. And even the types of punishments were different.
So you're very wrong about that sha.
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by hahn(m): 6:28pm On Nov 14, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
From my researches in past times , I discovered three interpretations

1. Snakes had the power of speech before it was taken away from them - I've told plaetton this

2. The event was a mystical one - Satan used the snake as a tool meaning it possessed it which enabled it to talk or Satan spoke through the snake

3. The snake was humanoid and had a sexual interest in Eve and Satan discovering this used it . The snake beguiled Eve which implied seduction and slept with her to bring forth Cain . Cain was not totally human that's why he had that evil knowledge of murder - killing his own brother .

See , the third one could be heretical and I've always avoided using it . One and Two are the most sensible . Even the donkey in the Balaam's story was used as a tool to rebuke Balaam .

Chill out bro . At your own peril if you choose to ridicule the creation story
I wonder what geesampower has to say about this grin
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by GooseBaba: 6:58pm On Nov 14, 2015
Chei..!!! Yaweh seriously fuvked up...imagine a gentile saying the first woman he created was fuvked by a snake with humanoid prick... grin ;DLmao...

That's just too funny.. From the book of make shiiit up as you go..
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by Nobody: 7:07pm On Nov 14, 2015
Rilwayne001:
Good of you, you ain't going to burn in hell wink cheesy
Lol, surely better than killing anyone who doesn't believe in Allah tho cheesy cheesy
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by Nobody: 7:12pm On Nov 14, 2015
MzNelly:
Lol, surely better than killing anyone who doesn't believe in Allah tho cheesy cheesy
grin grin grin
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by Rilwayne001: 7:17pm On Nov 14, 2015
MzNelly:
Lol, surely better than killing anyone who doesn't believe in Allah tho cheesy cheesy
Forreal dearie.. forreal. Only fanatic, bigot, monomaniac, deluded, sex-starved, 72-virgins-believing gullible fool does that.

If each and every Muslim of the world population was as stupíd as those fanatic terrorist, the world, no doubt would be awful.
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by Nobody: 7:33pm On Nov 14, 2015
Rilwayne001:
Forreal dearie.. forreal. Only fanatic, bigot, monomaniac, deluded, sex-starved, 72-virgins-believing gullible fool does that.

If each and every Muslim of the world population was as stupíd as those fanatic terrorist, the world, no doubt would be awful.
smiley smiley
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by geesampower(m): 7:45pm On Nov 14, 2015
hahn:
I wonder what geesampower has to say about this grin
This is tiring, I just weak. J.K Rowling, TRR tolkin and a host of other authors have made good money from such thinking, I hope this dude does not waste his talent on nairaland. My candid advice.
Wish I have such a "healthy imagination". I wld write the best fantasy movie the world has ever seen.
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:55pm On Nov 14, 2015
geesampower:
This is tiring, I just weak. J.K Rowling, TRR tolkin and a host of other authors have made good money from such thinking, I hope this dude does not waste his talent on nairaland. My candid advice.
Wish I have such a "healthy imagination". I wld write the best fantasy movie the world has ever seen.
hahn , I clearly stated that those were not mine and they were from my researches . WTH is wrong with you na
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by hahn(m): 8:55pm On Nov 14, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
hahn , I clearly stated that those were not mine and they were from my researches . WTH is wrong with you na
Lol. I know I know. It's just too hilarious. I actually followed one of the comments to the original thread and those boys were spewing a lot of horse sh*t.

However, you did bring them up to support your motion and also did say that number 1 and 2 made sense undecided

Come one man. You just have to agree that the bible is full of so much bullsh*t it could solve Nigeria's power issues forever.
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:10pm On Nov 14, 2015
hahn:
Lol. I know I know. It's just too hilarious. I actually followed one of the comments to the original thread and those boys were spewing a lot of horse sh*t.

However, you did bring them up to support your motion and also did say that number 1 and 2 made sense undecided

Come one man. You just have to agree that the bible is full of so much bullsh*t it could solve Nigeria's power issues forever.
I don't agree . Even from your own view , still better than evolution - cows/hippos/bears turning into whales - and abiogenesis tho .
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by hahn(m): 7:12am On Nov 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
I don't agree . Even from your own view , still better than evolution - cows/hippos/bears turning into whales - and abiogenesis tho .
Lol. Bubu, I'm surprised you haven't realized this but I really don't subscribe to the evolution theory and I am not really into science and all that. Religion simply doesn't make sense to me and neither does god and any of it's 4,000 versions. Besides, evolution is a "theory". Have you ever wondered why it is always referred to as the evolution "theory"? Can you direct me to any link or science journal that categorically states that evolution is a fact?

To the best of my knowledge, the evolution is still under scrutiny and, believe it or not, scientists are it's worse critics even though, to them at least, it is a more plausible explanation than snakes in humanoid form fvcking the first woman in the world and giving birth to a human being without any snake traits aside from evil which so happens to be a human trait. That theory even makes it seem like snakes are the worst creatures on earth whereas they are not really when you think about it.

I prefer a snake to a human being because with a snake you know you'll get bitten but with humans you just never can tell.

The difference between scientists and theists is that scientists say, "I don't know, let's figure this out" while theists will say, "I don't care if it's true or not. I believe and that's it".

Which position sounds more ridiculous to you?
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by frank317: 7:59am On Nov 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
If this implies being lost , then ifeness is in oblivion . This is the religion section and it says : "Share your faith and belief in God ... " - that was/is/will be what I had done /have done /will continue doing .

I clearly said that I had done researches and those were the interpretations given

You are giving me more reasons to call you uneducated every single day
Pls show me what verse in the bible that says Satan possessed the snake.
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by frank317: 8:01am On Nov 15, 2015
Teempakguy:
good point. except there probably was no concept for sorry then. they had just been created. they didn't know how sorry worked. the tree didn't give them good manners. only made them wiser.
observe children. they instinctively learn to shift blame without you teaching them. same thing with fairly intelligent animals. you have to teach them to take responsiblity. humans know this. you have to teach kids to say sorry, please, and thank you. being "wise" doesn't give you that.

so, i ask you, why didn't god tell him to shut up and say sorry?
Lol, how could he want them to tell him sorry, when he couldn't wait to get angry and pour his vengeance on two infants?
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:47am On Nov 15, 2015
hahn:
The difference between scientists and theists is that scientists say, "I don't know, let's figure this out" while theists will say, "I don't care if it's true or not. I believe and that's it".

Which position sounds more ridiculous to you?
Again I said those were three interpretations , showing that there were studies that forth those three interpretations . Either way it does not stop me from believing in God . Since God is real however He must have chosen to create the world is true . As simple as ABC . You guys make it seem complicated but it has never been . God wants us to study his works - nature and life - and unveil several mysteries , whether through science , philosophy , theology etc . God did it , but just find out how .

^^^ I think this statement is coherent and succinct enough .
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:03am On Nov 15, 2015
Teempakguy:
it's not.

also, satan isn't mentioned in the old testament. neither is hell.
1. Job 1:6-7

6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
2. Isaiah 14:12-14

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
3. Ezekiel 28:12-18
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
4. Zechariah 3:1-2
3 And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.

2 And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
Hell

1. Daniel 12:2

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
So please have you started your Psalm 23 recitation ? Its day 1 already
Re: Answer This With An Open Mind by hahn(m): 4:02pm On Nov 15, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Again I said those were three interpretations , showing that there were studies that forth those three interpretations . Either way it does not stop me from believing in God . Since God is real however He must have chosen to create the world is true . As simple as ABC . You guys make it seem complicated but it has never been . God wants us to study his works - nature and life - and unveil several mysteries , whether through science , philosophy , theology etc . God did it , but just find out how .

^^^ I think this statement is coherent and succinct enough .
"God did it" is a non answer. It is not a fact only an assumption share by you and many other people. But it's all good
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