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Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by politricks: 9:26am On Nov 15, 2015
ThisMeansWAR:
if ipob attack anyone today, we will blame igbos.. Even if igbos dissociate themselves from ipob, it doesnt make ipob less igbo. Same as massob or opc...

Isis, alqaeda, bokoharam, alshaabab, etc are nothing but islamic terrorist organization.. If Muslims rise and protest hardly and if possible, violently in one voice like they did with things like danish cartoon,innocense of muslim, burning of quoran in iraq.. Then we shall take them seriously and realize that these group througly do not respresent islam.
My friend it is not as easy as it seems. These terrorists takes no prisoners, and attacks anybody who speaks against them but despite this, there are still some islamic cleric speaking against them just that their voice are not loud enough. I hope you remember when one of these ministers was asked about Boko haram and he said he cant say anything for fear of his life. Even though that is a cowardly act, but when you look at it critically, you will discover that he is not far from the truth or do you remember how many islamic cleric have died while speaking against boko haram?. Secondly, if it were just about religion, it would have been easier but there is politics and power play in most of these terrorist acts making it more complicated to fight or what do you say about Tony blair apologising for invading iraq. A move which he admitted may have contributed to the rise of ISIS.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/tony-blair-apologises-for-mistakes-over-iraq-war-and-admits-elements-of-truth-to-view-that-invasion-a6707776.html

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Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by NOBODYY: 9:27am On Nov 15, 2015
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Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by Nobody: 9:34am On Nov 15, 2015
Nice one bro...these terrorists are nothing but terrorists..May God almighty guide and protect us all from evil..
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by ThisMeansWAR: 9:44am On Nov 15, 2015
politricks:
My friend it is not as easy as it seems. These terrorists takes no prisoners, and attacks anybody who speaks against them but despite this, there are still some islamic cleric speaking against them just that their voice are not loud enough. I hope you remember when one of these ministers was asked about Boko haram and he said he cant say anything for fear of his life. Even though that is a cowardly act, but when you look at it critically, you will discover that he is not far from the truth or do you remember how many islamic cleric have died while speaking against boko haram?. Secondly, if it were just about religion, it would have been easier but there is politics and power play in most of these terrorist acts making it more complicated to fight or what do you say about Tony blair apologising for invading iraq. A move which he admitted may have contributed to the rise of ISIS.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/tony-blair-apologises-for-mistakes-over-iraq-war-and-admits-elements-of-truth-to-view-that-invasion-a6707776.html
oh pulease.. More excuse..
The people that protested danish cartoon and innocense of muslim showed they are ready to die... Infact they stood against security agents armed to teeth to protest against just a single person they feel tarnished the image of islam... Isis, boko haram, alshabaab etc have destroyed, battered, a small image islam has left that everyone is now scared and develop special hatred for that religion, yet muslims are not coming out to protest such and you want us to believe it has nothing to do islam?

There is politics and there will always be politics because islam itself is politics.
Tony blaire or bush didnt start boko haram or alshaabab or chemjuya or what is the name of that islamist group killing the chinese Again?

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Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by kadis007(m): 9:46am On Nov 15, 2015
there are over 1.7 billion Muslims in the world. if all are terrorist I don't understand why we still have non Muslims in the world.

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Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by politricks: 9:51am On Nov 15, 2015
NOBODYY:
Make i no type wetin dey my mind...

Bcuz if i start..none of una go stay

www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html

janmorganmedia.com/2014/05/proof-islam-evil-violent-intolerant-straight-koran/

www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al- Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others
along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"


Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - [/i]"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority[/i]

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of
this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he
slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

BTW i coverted to Christianity from islam..so theres nothing you can say that am not aware of
My friend you are entitled to your opinions and just remember that there are also people that has converted to the same islam you left. Secondly, just because you were in islam before does not mean you are aware of everything. Even the king of saudi arabia cant say he is aware of everything in islam because islamic knowledge is limitless. Please take your time to read this.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/722114

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Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by politricks: 9:58am On Nov 15, 2015
ThisMeansWAR:
"Infact they stood against
security agents armed to teeth"
Security agents has code of conduct no matter how armed they are. Tell me, do terrorists have?
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by Nephdaniels(m): 10:04am On Nov 15, 2015
Nice comments,but did u all really read all dat? Didn't tho...just asking
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by zingywingy: 10:05am On Nov 15, 2015
@Lalasticlala
@Seun

We need people to understand that terrorism has no religion
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by neocortex: 10:06am On Nov 15, 2015
kadis007:
there are over 1.7 billion Muslims in the world. if all are terrorist I don't understand why we still have non Muslims in the world.

It is simple, most choose to be human first before being a muslim,
also most care less about what the quran says in relation to the society.
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by ThisMeansWAR: 10:11am On Nov 15, 2015
politricks:
Security agents has code of conduct no matter how armed they are. Tell me, do terrorists have?
yes part of the code is to take down anyone terrorising the people.. Did you know the number of muslims that died during those protests? Did you know there was a certain sheikh or was it emir that lost 3 of his children to the innocence of muslim protest in the north and still went out the following day to continue the protest? Why cant they do that against bokoharam?
Note:The 3 children were killed by the security operatives.
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by Mentcee(m): 10:11am On Nov 15, 2015
There is no doubt that Islam is of the evil.
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by neocortex: 10:13am On Nov 15, 2015
@OP there is a difference between suicidal jihad and suicide.
While the one who commits suicide goes to hell, the jihadist is
a matyr.

BTW, If muslim clerics spend more time in explaining to their
followers that terrorism is evil , there will be less recruits for
ISIS and its siblings, but no, they are busy pointing out errors in
other peoples faith and books in order to gain new ignorant converts
(who are willing tools for terrorists)
and claim the price of the fastest growing religion.

Of what use is religion to an ignorant convert ?
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by yhemsy62(m): 10:14am On Nov 15, 2015
Islam the religion of "PEACE"
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by NOBODYY: 10:22am On Nov 15, 2015
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Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by Fkhalifa(m): 10:24am On Nov 15, 2015
op may Allah reward you for this beautiful piece...
I hope the anti islams and the non muslims find a place in their heart to search and digest the truth..
Sadly, most of them know this is not islam, but they are hell bent on hating and fabricating falsehood, even though the truth has been present and so glaring to their eyes and mind.
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by drss(m): 10:30am On Nov 15, 2015
taqiyya alert!!!!!
Log on here for more wisdom!
www.think-israel.org/derafsh-kaviyani.mohammed.html
I will not be decieved!!!!!!
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by politricks: 10:32am On Nov 15, 2015
ThisMeansWAR:
yes part of the code is to take down anyone terrorising the people.. Did you know the number of muslims that died during those protests? Did you know there was a certain sheikh or was it emir that lost 3 of his children to the innocence of muslim protest in the north and still went out the following day to continue the protest? Why cant they do that against bokoharam?
Note:The 3 children were killed by the security operatives.
There is a clear difference between protesting in front of security operatives and protesting against terrorists and the end results are usually different also. The man you are talking about, i am sure if it were boko haram he was protesting against, he probably wouldn't have been alive by now. The protest for 'bring back our girls' that took the world by storm, where has it gotten us?
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by Daniel058(m): 10:33am On Nov 15, 2015
We aren't fools all these pretence can't change what we know about you people.
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by ThisMeansWAR: 10:38am On Nov 15, 2015
politricks:
There is a clear difference between protesting in front of security operatives and protesting against terrorists and the end results are usually different also. The man you are talking about, i am sure if it were boko haram he was protesting against, he probably wouldn't have been alive by now. The protest for 'bring back our girls' that took the world by storm, where has it gotten us?
the diffrence is, boko haram cannot attack all of them at once... There will security agents to protect them... Besides, you are just looking for excuse. If the whole army and police cannot stop muslim from violently protesting a cartoon, you think small groups like boko haram or isis can?
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by politricks: 10:43am On Nov 15, 2015
ThisMeansWAR:
the diffrence is, boko haram cannot attack all of them at once... There will security agents to protect them... Besides, you are just looking for excuse. If the whole army and police cannot stop muslim from violently protesting a cartoon, you think small groups like boko haram or isis can?
Really?? ISIS a small group?
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by NOBODYY: 10:45am On Nov 15, 2015
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Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by ThisMeansWAR: 10:45am On Nov 15, 2015
politricks:
Really?? ISIS a small group?
is it up to ghanaian army?
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by NOBODYY: 10:51am On Nov 15, 2015
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Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by Ayoswit(f): 11:04am On Nov 15, 2015
All christians shud kno dt wat we'r seeing frm ds moslem jihad is d fulfilmnt of d scripture were d bible says "dt d hand of ismail (whos moslems are his descendant) wil rise against his brother isaac (christians)
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by Ejjis(m): 11:05am On Nov 15, 2015
IN AS MUCH AS I AM CONCERN MUSLIM IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION..QUOTE ME RIGHT..
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by Shehucom(m): 11:19am On Nov 15, 2015
jamalsky:
No matter what anyone says,this their Islam is never a religion of peace,just a bunch of bloodsucking evil nuisances. I just wish the religion can be eliminated, these fanatics have brought so much crisis all the world over,wickedness runs in their veins,I pray we defeat them in out world.To hell with the religion of violence .In God we trust.

You see my friend, people like you are part of the problem we have in this country, why don't you just forego your ego and reason a bit. It's obvious that after all the above evidence your faculty of reasoning has been constipated for you to understand.
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by mohammedmagnus: 11:52am On Nov 15, 2015
As a former Christian before reverting to islam... it's an herculean task to make i Christian understand islam. firstly because Christians cannot differentiate between islam and muslims.. infact i will go all out to say the biggest problem of islam is muslims. while growing up it was hard for me to accept islam. one i was looking at muslims to judge islam. on one end of the spectrum where the hypocritical muslims, they drink alcohol, sleep with women, do juju and other fetish stuffs (Yoruba muslims can concur with this one). All this irritated me. on the other end of the spectrum where the "religious muslims" who saw other people as sinners hence they where very harsh. All this made me stay clear from islam, until Allah SWT (with my own little effort, so one doesn't think it's will of Allah alone, you should make an effort ) saved me. with the issue of terrorism i have( on my path to islam. NB islam is not just a faith based or miracle based religion, it requires "ilm" knowledge ) found out that some of us think we are muslims but we are in a state of disbelief "kufr", or better still a state of jahiliyah "ignorance ", we are clearly warned not to kill innocent souls so if you do that you have steered off islam. Now this state of jahiliyah isn't limited to the terrorists, those of us who claim to be muslims but don't pray, are according to the Quran not in islam, those of us who drink Alcohol according to the ulama are not muslims. hence you can see the two ends of Islamic extremism. you claim your muslim but you consult babalawo, ur in a state of kufr you unknowingly left the fold of islam..... why i am writing this is to let you know why some "Christians" can't accept islam. May Allah SWT forgive me for any mistakes i have made in my presentation Ameen. As for Christians you cannot learn islam from someone who is prejudiced, so becareful who you gain your Islamic knowledge from (plus the goal of learning islam is not to convert you, but to make you understand. because there is no compulsion in religion )

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Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by Ghost01(m): 12:40pm On Nov 15, 2015
Bugatie:
No offence intended for good moslem faithfuls but it's difficult not to associate Islam with the terror acts we are experiencing almost all over the world. Boko haram, Al queda, Isis and co all chant Allah and always pushing for a jihad in their domain.

They are moslems no doubt, but you can say they are BAD moslems.
Thank you. You spoke my mind.
Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by kolomax(m): 12:42pm On Nov 15, 2015
NOBODYY:
what did you say about this
1. "Kill those who are not
Christains or Jewish: You must
kill those who worship another
god. Exodus 22:20
..............................
2. Kill any friend or family that
worship a god that is different
than your own. Deuteronomy
13:6-10
..............................
3. Kill all the inhabitants of any
city where you find people that
worship differently than you.
Deuteronomy 13:12-16
..............................
4. Kill everyone who has
religious views that are
different than your own.
Deuteronomy 17:2-7
..............................
5. Kill anyone who refuses to
listen to a priest. Deuteronomy
17:12-13
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6. Kill any false prophets.
Deuteronomy 18:20
..............................
7. Any city that doesn’t receive
the followers of Jesus will be
destroyed in a manner even
more savage than that of
Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark
6:11
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8. Matthew 10:34-36 - "Do not
think that I came to bring
peace on the earth; I did not
come to bring peace, but a
sword. 35 "For I came to set a
man against his father, and a
daughter against her mother,
and a daughter-in-lawagainst
her mother-in-law; 36 "...and a
man’s enemies will be the
members of his household."
..............................
9. Luke 12:51,52 - "Do you
suppose that I came to grant
peace on earth? I tell you, no,
but rather division; 52 "for
from now on five members in
one
household will be divided,
three against two, and two
against three..."
..............................
9. Luke 22:36- "And He said to
them, "But now, let him who
has a purse take it along,
likewise also a bag, and let him
who has no sword sell his robe
and buy one.

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Re: Jihad, Terrorism And Suicide Bombing: The Classical Islamic Perspective by osesology(m): 12:56pm On Nov 15, 2015
All moslems are not terrorists but all terrorists are moslems. WHY?

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