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Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Forwetinnah: 10:12pm On Nov 15, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


You can see the ignorance I am talking about? He is asking for Proof after Diezani and Goodluck showed proof that money was diverted from our revenue.

Just imagine. Diezani and GEJ provided the PWC that proved they diverted money.

You are angry at someone for reporting to you that someone stole your money. I clap for you.

What proof? GEJ did what?? Lol..you must think im one of those tools you lot deceive in NL. Can I please see the link to the proof GEJ saw because SLS' rants have been inconsistent...recently he apologised to NOI

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/alleged-missing-49-8bn-oil-money-sanusi-okonjo-iweala-im-sorry/

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Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Nobody: 10:12pm On Nov 15, 2015
TheGoodJoe:



If find it hard to believe, after articles like the one below was released, you can still write such a thing. At least, read the head line of the article.


PwC's audit report supports many of Sanusi's allegations.

The auditors found that the total gross revenues generated from the federal government of Nigeria crude oil liftings was $69.34bn from January 2012 to July 2013.

The total cash remitted into the government's accounts in relation to crude oil lifting was $50.81bn, leaving $18.53bn unaccounted for.

The report raised serious questions about the level of transparency and corporate structure of the national oil company.

http://www.internationalaccountingbulletin.com/news/pwc-forensic-report-on-oil-revenues-unveils-nigerias-demons-4570423


My error, I just realized this was over a 19 month period, I had thought jan to july was over a 7 month period. I still find the figure of $20B a bit ludicrous but I take back earlier comments as they were based on the wrong assumptions.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Forwetinnah: 10:13pm On Nov 15, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


Are you serious? Which deceit? What concerns Melaye in this talk? Download the report and read how much people stole from you and your country.

Wake up.

..while we're dealing with the NNPC saga, we can also talk about the TSA, can't we? It's all fraud and corruption
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by BABANGBALI: 10:15pm On Nov 15, 2015
Dear Biafrans I support your struggle 100% but my problem is your
approach. I would want to suggest the following procedures and I can
assure you they will work out successfully. If you can unite and follow
the following steps then I can tell, welcome to the Republic of Biafra in
advance.
Quote
STEP 1: Withdraw all your services from Nigeria as you are the
backbone of the country.
STEP 2: Withdraw your kins men who are public office holders e.g. Ike
Ekweremadu, deputy senate president, Peter Obi the D.G of S.E.C
STEP 3: Reject all the ministerial nomination from the so called
Nigeria.
STEP 4: Endeavour to reject Federal Allocation. You are very
industrious people, you will be better off without it.
STEP 5: Stop all forms of importation through the Nigerian sea port so
that Nigeria will crumble without your Tax.
STEP 6: Recall all your sons and daughters from all parts of Nigeria
to relocate home until this fight is over then Nigeria can beg them to
come back as expatriate.
STEP 7: Lock up all your shops in Idumota, Alaba international, Kano
main market and every other market even in remote villages across
the country.
STEP 8: Go beyond closing of the Niger bridge, stop all Nigerians
from buying or selling in Onitsha Main market or Ariaria market in
Aba.
STEP 9: Make sure you make your Visa very hard for Nigerians.
STEP 10: This fight can be achieved without Violence just like south
Sudan.
Finally, make sure you don’t fight it with weapons. Igbo kwenu!!! hey!.
What do you think of these suggestions; good for the cause of Biafra or
not?
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:15pm On Nov 15, 2015
lookandlaff:



how much oil do we produce? = 2m BPD
what was the average price of crude in that period = $100
do the math over 365 days approx $75B


this is total sales, i.e turnover, this is before cost of production 20-30% and JV share of profits that acrue to the JV partners is deducted. There is no way what accrues to Nigeria from Crude Oil is more than $35B during that period, I don't care what Sanusi or what you think PWC is saying, maybe journalists are misinterpreting the report. You cannot sell more Oil than you are producing, you cannot sell Oil higher than the market price, there are production costs and joint venture partnerships that take roughly half of the crude we produce. It's simply an impossibility to arrive at the figures being touted. Think about it!!!


You don't hear Shell or Chevron or any of the Oil companies that actually drill the Oil (note that NNPC does not actually drill any Oil) saying there share is missing.



The problem here is this and this was Sanusi's mistake in the beginning, to assume that because we produce x million barrells per day, all that crude are ours. All our crude production is done through JVs with the Oil majors, Again NNPC does not drill for crude!!! In return for their investment, they get 40% or 50% depending on the agreement. This is taken in the form of crude, they sell their crude, we sell ours. It is misleading to think when you hear that we produce 2million barrels per day, that the Nigerian govt gets the whole 2million barrels. We only get what is our share as per the jv agreements after some is taken to offset production costs. If you are looking for 2 million barrels PD in the accounts then ofcourse you will shout that it's missing but the question is why are you looking for 2M BPD when all that is your share is roughly 1M BPD!!!


You do not need to calculate any maths, do any permutation or Voodoo economics.

NNPC is not denying that the money was diverted. So what is your problem?

This is like a thief confessing that he stole your money and you want to prove to the thief that he did not steal your money.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Nobody: 10:16pm On Nov 15, 2015
That Boko Haram masquerading leader is ugly. lipsrsealed
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:17pm On Nov 15, 2015
Forwetinnah:


..while we're dealing with the NNPC saga, we can also talk about the TSA, can't we? It's all fraud and corruption

If you have a problem with TSA, write an article about it, explain the fraud and enlighten Nigerians.

Do not use it as a tool to exonerate a thief who stole from you.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Chubhie: 10:23pm On Nov 15, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


Go and read the article and stop playing kpankpangolo here. How can after the proof that NNPC diverted money from the Nation, you are angry that Emir Sanusi cried out that they stole Nigerian money.

Imagine this scenario. Someone came to you and told you that he saw someone steal ten thousand naira from your bag. When you found out the person who stole five thousand, you ask the police to arrest the man that reported because he did not know exactly how much the other person stole from you.
You carry SLS words as gospel truth. The question now is what is TRUTH?

According to hegel and spinoza, A statement has to cohere and be consistent for it to be a desirable condition for truth. SLS statements are well documented to have lacked coherence and consistency hence can not be smuggled in as a gospel truth.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:24pm On Nov 15, 2015
lookandlaff:



how much oil do we produce? = 2m BPD
what was the average price of crude in that period = $100
do the math over 365 days approx $75B


this is total sales, i.e turnover, this is before cost of production 20-30% and JV share of profits that acrue to the JV partners is deducted. There is no way what accrues to Nigeria from Crude Oil is more than $35B during that period, I don't care what Sanusi or what you think PWC is saying, maybe journalists are misinterpreting the report. You cannot sell more Oil than you are producing, you cannot sell Oil higher than the market price, there are production costs and joint venture partnerships that take roughly half of the crude we produce. It's simply an impossibility to arrive at the figures being touted. Think about it!!!


You don't hear Shell or Chevron or any of the Oil companies that actually drill the Oil (note that NNPC does not actually drill any Oil) saying there share is missing.



The problem here is this and this was Sanusi's mistake in the beginning, to assume that because we produce x million barrells per day, all that crude are ours. All our crude production is done through JVs with the Oil majors, Again NNPC does not drill for crude!!! In return for their investment, they get 40% up to 50% depending on the agreement. This is taken in the form of crude, they sell their crude, we sell ours. It is misleading to think when you hear that we produce 2million barrels per day, that the Nigerian govt gets the whole 2million barrels. We only get what is our share as per the jv agreements after some is taken to offset production costs. If you are looking for 2 million barrels PD in the accounts then ofcourse you will shout that it's missing but the question is why are you looking for 2M BPD when all that is your share of the agreement is less than that

PwC's audit report supports many of Sanusi's allegations.

The auditors found that the total gross revenues generated from the Federal government of Nigeria crude oil liftings was $69.34bn from January 2012 to July 2013.

The total cash remitted into the government's accounts in relation to crude oil lifting was $50.81bn, leaving $18.53bn unaccounted for.

http://www.internationalaccountingbulletin.com/news/pwc-forensic-report-on-oil-revenues-unveils-nigerias-demo-457042323

This is not Emir Sanusi talking. This is the star witness of Diezani and GEJ talking. GEJ brought them to prove NNPC did not divert money but they said Emir Sanusi was right.

So why are you still Calculating?

A thief brought a witness to prove to you that he did not steal your money. The witness said the thief stole your money. You told the witness. Let me bring calculator to find out if he stole my money.

You guys should wake up, because your ignorance is frightening me.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Forwetinnah: 10:24pm On Nov 15, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


If you have a problem with TSA, write an article about it, explain the fraud and enlighten Nigerians.

Do not use it as a tool to exonerate a thief who stole from you.

Im 'exornerating' a thief? Why...because i brought up the case of bigger crooks from your extraction grin ?? You dont have a case...all of you are cut from the same cloth!! So your excuse for exempting thieves working with Booooohari is writing an article? Tell your mallam to line up aaaalll the thieves including himself and shoot them to blazes. That should save me the stress of writing a different article for more of your excuses. ..i dont t have time for senseless arguments
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Forwetinnah: 10:26pm On Nov 15, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


PwC's audit report supports many of Sanusi's allegations.

The auditors found that the total gross revenues generated from the Federal government of Nigeria crude oil liftings was $69.34bn from January 2012 to July 2013.

The total cash remitted into the government's accounts in relation to crude oil lifting was $50.81bn, leaving $18.53bn unaccounted for.

http://www.internationalaccountingbulletin.com/news/pwc-forensic-report-on-oil-revenues-unveils-nigerias-demo-457042323

This is not Emir Sanusi talking. This is the star witness of Diezani and GEJ talking. GEJ brought them to prove NNPC did not divert money but they said Emir Sanusi was right.

So why are you still Calculating?

A thief brought a witness to prove to you that he did not steal your money. The witness said the thief stole your money. You told the witness. Let me bring calculator to find out if he stole my money.

You guys should wake up, because your ignorance is frightening me.

You didn't read his post yet you want him to read yours..you're being misled. Read the last 2 paragraph at least.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:26pm On Nov 15, 2015
Chubhie:
You carry SLS words as gospel truth. The question now is what is TRUTH?

According to hegel and spinoza, A statement has to cohere and be consistent for it to be a desirable condition for truth. SLS statements are well documented to have lacked coherence and consistency hence can not be smuggled in as a gospel truth.

You carry ignorance as the Gospel truth. GEJ and Diezani brought PWC to prove them innocent but their report proved that the money was diverted.

How does SLS still come into the discussion. Download the report and read it.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by bayinq25(m): 10:27pm On Nov 15, 2015
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Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:28pm On Nov 15, 2015
Forwetinnah:


You didn't read his post yet you want him to read yours..you're being misled. Read the last 2 paragraph at least.


Why should I read if Emir Sanusi made a mistake. NNPC is not denying the money was diverted. So why is Emir Sanusi's mistake important.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by bayinq25(m): 10:30pm On Nov 15, 2015
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Nobody: 10:30pm On Nov 15, 2015
TheGoodJoe:



You do not need to calculate any maths, do any permutation or Voodoo economics.

NNPC is not denying that the money was diverted. So what is your problem?

This is like a thief confessing that he stole your money and you want to prove to the thief that he did not steal your money.


see modified post above

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Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:31pm On Nov 15, 2015
Forwetinnah:


Im 'exornerating' a thief? Why...because i brought up the case of bigger crooks from your extraction grin ?? You dont have a case...all of you are cut from the same cloth!! So your excuse for exempting thieves working with Booooohari is writing an article? Tell your mallam to line up aaaalll the thieves including himself and shoot them to blazes. That should save me the stress of writing a different article for more of your excuses. ..i dont t have time for senseless arguments

If you have a problem with APC, go ahead and expose them. I will support you one hundred percent. If these guys loot us, we bear the consequences, not them.

However, this report has nothing to do with APC or Buhari? That is why I am scared of the level of ignorance.

GEJ made the report public when he was still the President.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Forwetinnah: 10:34pm On Nov 15, 2015
TheGoodJoe:



Why should I read if Emir Sanusi made a mistake. NNPC is not denying the money was diverted. So why is Emir Sanusi's mistake important.

With that mistake any sane court would throw SLS ' Trash out...you don't come up with such outrageous accusations with shady figures, even a good police officer will have you as a suspect. Not standing brief for Diezani anyways...she has promised to clear her name, the TSA crooks should come out from Booooohari's diapers and clear their names too
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Chubhie: 10:34pm On Nov 15, 2015
olabode100:
he was not consistent with figure so that nnpc can come out! With their hidden figures and behold when they(nnpc) saw the bogus 50 dolls he mentioned,they came out with their hidden figure and the truth of SLS came to pass.so SLS knew what he was doing ,he wanted nnpc t come out with their hidden figures.I thinkthe money is actually ~20 dolls.
Talk of SLS and NNPC playing ten ten with figures. Why making a scapegoat of Diezani on the pages of newspapers everyday without hard evidences?
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:35pm On Nov 15, 2015
lookandlaff:



My error, I just realized this was over a 19 month period, I had thought jan to july was over a 7 month period. I still find the figure of $20B a bit ludicrous but I take back earlier comments as they were based on the wrong assumptions.

Thank you very much and I am sorry if I sounded harsh. This truth must be told. The money missing is unbelievable. As you put it ludicrous. That is why we should not let it go without a fight.

From the day we elected President Buhari, I said his first mandate is to pursue this money. If President Buhari does not pursue it, then he failed Nigerians who voted for him.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:38pm On Nov 15, 2015
Forwetinnah:


With that mistake any sane court would throw SLS ' Trash out...you don't come up with such outrageous accusations with shady figures, even a good police officer will have you as a suspect. Not standing brief for Diezani anyways...she has promised to clear her name, the TSA crooks should come out from Booooohari's diapers and clear their names too

SLS did not come out with Evidence. He gave a report of what he noticed and asked GEJ to investigate and provide explanations.

So how can an enquiry be seen as an evidence beats me.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Forwetinnah: 10:38pm On Nov 15, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


If you have a problem with APC, go ahead and expose them. I will support you one hundred percent. If these guys loot us, we bear the consequences, not them.

However, this report has nothing to do with APC or Buhari? That is why I am scared of the level of ignorance.

GEJ made the report public when he was still the President.

It has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH BUHARI AND THE APC!! Alot of dimwits supported and voted Booooohari to fight corruption which is on an epic scale right now. It all comes down to fraud and corruption which the APC is flaunting in our faces presently
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Chubhie: 10:40pm On Nov 15, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


You carry ignorance as the Gospel truth. GEJ and Diezani brought PWC to prove them innocent but their report proved that the money was diverted.

How does SLS still come into the discussion. Download the report and read it.
You are a dubious character.I only blame a Greehorn as GEJ for making common sls seem larger than life.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Forwetinnah: 10:40pm On Nov 15, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


SLS did not come out with Evidence. He gave a report of what he noticed and asked GEJ to investigate and provide explanations.

So how can an enquiry be seen as an evidence beats me.

Oh...now its an enquiry?
Yet Dieziani is being called a thief without trial by YOU, why?
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Forwetinnah: 10:42pm On Nov 15, 2015
Chubhie:
You are a dubious character.I only blame a Greehorn as GEJ for making common sls seem larger than life.

Just allow him to keep shooting himself...
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by Chubhie: 10:58pm On Nov 15, 2015
Forwetinnah:


Just allow him to keep shooting himself...
His mission is to do a hatchet job for sls and exonerate him of any complicity. I wish diezani would find the courage to tell her own truth without being media hounded.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:16pm On Nov 15, 2015
Forwetinnah:


Oh...now its an enquiry?
Yet Dieziani is being called a thief without trial by YOU, why?

Emir Sanusi noticed money was not paid and told GEJ to investigate. GEJ investigated and said it is true, NNPC diverted the money.

So Emir Sanusi is not the proof but the report GEJ published proved the money was diverted. Do you understand?
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:18pm On Nov 15, 2015
Chubhie:
You are a dubious character.I only blame a Greehorn as GEJ for making common sls seem larger than life.

Read the report and stop displaying ignorance on this thread. Show me where I was dubious. Show it or prove that you are too ignorant to see the truth.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:21pm On Nov 15, 2015
Forwetinnah:


Just allow him to keep shooting himself...

The problem is not me but your inability to comprehend a simple thing.

I have from page one highlighted the report made public by GEJ. The repkrt GEJ published showed money was diverted. So how did I shoot myself.

GEJ proved that NNPC under Diezani diverted money. So Emir Sanusi is not the proof.
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:26pm On Nov 15, 2015
Forwetinnah:


Oh...now its an enquiry?
Yet Dieziani is being called a thief without trial by YOU, why?

If you read the articles, you will not ask this kind of question.

Read at least read the first two paragraph below and enlighten yourself.




[b]Remember The King?

A quick recap of what started all of this – King Mohammed Sanusi II, in his former life as SLS, the Central Bank Governor, told the nation that, based on what he had calculated, NNPC sold $67bn worth of crude in the period from January 2012 to July 2013. He then said that as custodian of the nation’s purse, he had only received $47bn of this amount. In other words, up to $20bn of the money was not accounted for.

Contrary to popular perception, SLS never did say the money had been stolen and he certainly didn’t name any names in his 300 page report submitted to the National Assembly. His main issue at the time was that, as CBN Governor, his job was to manage the exchange rate and the nation’s reserves. If there was $20bn out there in the wild, then his job was being made a lot harder than it needed to be.

He identified 3 ways in which the country was losing money as follows

1. Strategic Partnership Agreements – In 2011, as part of the efforts to promote local content, Shell sold its shares in 5 oil fields where NNPC was the majority shareholder. Shell had been the operator of these oil wells but NNPC awarded the operator rights to its subsidiary NPDC i.e. it allowed Shell to sell its shares but not the rights to operate them as it previously did.

NPDC then signed an ‘agreement’ worth almost $7bn with Seven Energy (3 fields) and Atlantic  Energy (2 fields) for them to operate the fields. These companies of course had no clue how to operate the oil fields – Atlantic was registered as a company the day before it signed the agreement – so they sub-contracted the work to other companies. Seven Energy’s contract entitled it to 10% of the profits from the 3 fields while Atlantic was entitled to 30% of profits in its 2 fields.

SLS complaint was that these 2 companies were pointless and were just collecting money – that should have accrued to Nigeria – for doing nothing. Why didn’t NPDC just sub-contract the work by itself? The 2 companies also did not pay any taxes or royalties whatsoever to Nigeria.

2. Kerosene Subsidies – This one is fairly straightforward to understand. SLS did an analysis of kerosene prices in all 36 states of the federation in his report and found that prices ranged from N170 to N270 per litre.

Importers bring in kerosene and sell it to government at N140/litre. The government then sells it to local retailers at N40/litre with the understanding that they sell it to the ‘common man’ at N50/litre i.e government subsidises it by N100/litre. The retailers take the kerosene and sell it for what they like as stated above.

There is no sweeter corruption than this one. According to SLS, Nigeria was spending $100m per month on this pointless exercise. Not a single Nigerian anywhere bought kerosene for the ‘official’ N50/litre.

3. Swaps – Even with all the money going into NNPC, like a true apa, it is always broke. Due to the semi-dead refineries we have, NNPC of course has to import refined products (petrol and kerosene) but it often doesn’t have the money to pay importers in cash. So what it does it tell importers to import the refined products, then calculates the value of that product in crude oil and pays the importers with crude oil. This is how human beings traded before money was invented – by barter.

The problem here is that SLS said he had no idea how the amount of crude to be swapped for refined products was calculated. All he was able to find was that at one point, NNPC was ‘swapping’ 200,000 barrels of crude per day. That is a lot of crude. Did Nigeria get that much value in refined products? Who knows?

http://aguntasolo.com/2015/04/29/this-yam-this-goat-this-country-part-1/[/b]
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:28pm On Nov 15, 2015
[b]Pat Utomi once said, "Nigerians will not be fools forever."

Nigerians wake up and stop letting these criminals deceive and loot you mercilessly.

What could be more foolish than Thieves bringing a Witness and the Witness confirmed that the thieves stole money. Yet, you guys are still asking for proof.

Read now, at least, read the headline of the Articles.


PwC's audit report supports many of Sanusi's allegations.

The auditors found that the total gross revenues generated from the Federal government of Nigeria crude oil liftings was $69.34bn from January 2012 to July 2013.

The total cash remitted into the government's accounts in relation to crude oil lifting was $50.81bn, leaving $18.53bn unaccounted for.

The report raised serious questions about the level of transparency and corporate structure of the national oil company.

http://www.internationalaccountingbulletin.com/news/pwc-forensic-report-on-oil-revenues-unveils-nigerias-demons-4570423

Prove Pat Utomi right and don't be fools forever.
[/b]
Re: Emir Sanusi Replies Diezani Allison-Madueke by ibukunobi: 11:32pm On Nov 15, 2015
chukwudi44:
Sanusi how much exactly is missing? Yoy started with $49billion,came down to $10billion and went up again to $20billion and now again you are telling us $6billion? Are northern emirs usually this stupid and confused?
it is only a criminal like you that will make a confused comment like this. Beneficiaries of corruption.

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