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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 9:09pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
WIZGUY69: Maaaaaan! Why do you keep bringing this guy back? You don't have to reply |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 9:10pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Katsumoto: I havent lived in EKiti nor been there in over a decade. I can only go by what I see in the news and what I hear in the news is that Fayemi spent a lot on road and instructures [size=15pt]He inherited a debt of 42 billion naira and many abandoned projects from his predecessor. The state ran on a paltry 109 million naira in Internally Generated Revenue and a meagre 2.5 billion naira monthly allocation from the federation’s account out of which 2 billion is expended on salaries and allowances.[/size] http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/ekiti-the-kayode-fayemi-administration-in-perspective-october-16-2010-october-2013-/161435/ This is from thisday a PDP sympathetic paper |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by XBLadez: 9:10pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
[s] WIZGUY69:[/s] Why not this one? 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:11pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
raumdeuter: No one is arguing the fact that Osun has potential. Environmentally and culturally. Egbon, if they tell you the price of that drum you sef go faint. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 9:11pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
XBLadez: We're very sorry Sir May Chukwu Okike Abiama in his infinite mercy bless you |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:12pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: What happened to "Tourism with Kakanfo"? I created some of the illustrations. I need you start your tourism so that I can get more ideas. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by XBLadez: 9:12pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
[s] IlekeHD:[/s] It's not that expensive. I priced it at Onitsha market last week 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 9:14pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
IlekeHD: Mo ti gbo E kon fa mi pada wa si bi bayi ni |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by XBLadez: 9:14pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo:No. Tell your sister to stop jumping into Igbo threads. No problem with bashing us at front page. I have nothing against you 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:14pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
WIZGUY69: Look at the road markings E be like say the person was drunk. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by XBLadez: 9:16pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
IlekeHD:Yeah, it resembles your tribal marks |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:16pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Aareonakakanfo: You sef your head don blow because I dey wine you. chioor Just come back jor. Seriously, I need you to do it. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by XBLadez: 9:17pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
IlekeHD:You need him to do it! |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 9:18pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
theV0ice: Seems I want direct enough.. The reason for the overbloating of the civil service is the culture of politicians sending names with letters/ cards to heads of MDAs or making it a condition for budget approval. How do you expect these heads to refuse without any backlash? Nigeria is Effed Up!! |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 9:19pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Katsumoto the reality is different if you have a civil service state. These states were created without any realistic means of survival on their own I know several people in these states whose rationale for voting the next governor is "He was paying salaries". Fayose has spent almost a yr I havent heard of any project but as long as he pays salaries and doles out stomach infrastructure he would be voted in again In those places you mentioned there were other places people can get a job, In states like Osun its basically salaries From yesterday I saw when someone said Jonathan unilaterally increased minimum wage from 10k to 18K without consulting those who would pay. The SW states initally rejected but they were put on the blast by the populace that is "Bauchi not paying, Is Akwai-Ibom not paying Is Kogi not paying". SOmeone retorted that is SW the only state where it was increased but you have forgotten that SW has more native and imprted civil servant than any region You cant compare a state with 1M civil servants to a state with 50,000 civil servants in terms of impact of the minimum wage 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by XBLadez: 9:21pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Hmm! I love this! Our Anambra bLodas would never put their heads down with us like this |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 9:28pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
jstbeinhonest: Lagos isnt as civil service dependent as Osun or Ekiti How many people do you know in Lagos that work for the govt vs a State like Ekiti |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Osomalo(m): 9:32pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
jstbeinhonest: More loans again? Dem take loans swear for our visionless governors ni? I don tire mehn, o ti sun mi jarey. Loan Loan Shaaaaaa Orobokibo applied for 10bn loan which has been approved. He wants to continue where Fashola stopped. Lord save us. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:32pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
If I'm getting the meaning of civil servants correct, how can a state depend mostly on civil salary? I'm trying to think of a developed country with the same concept. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:34pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
WIZGUY69: I have to say though, I like Ondo/Osun roads. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by theV0ice: 9:36pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
modath: Ki olorun o gba wa ni yen o 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 9:37pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Why then do governors use the civil service for political gain? Aren't civil servants mandated to attend political rallies? Why then do these guys aspire to office if they knew off the issues before hand? Why not kill your personal ambition and work with others towards finding a lasting solution? Nigerian citizens are too used to excuses. Administrators are always making excuses. If you don't know the issues bedevilling your state, don't aspire for office. If you know the issues but don't have any solutions, don't aspire for office. But seeking and gaining office, you are simply wasting precious time. Governors can't do anything with free Oil money; how the hell will Nigeria survive once Oil dries up or once these clever Japanese or germans develop a battery that is light and longlasting? Precious time is being wasted. That is my position. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 9:40pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
raumdeuter: I am sorry but I don't trust write-ups in Nigerian dailies because Nigerian journalists have been corrupted. I prefer to review stats that are provided for all states. The feedback from Ekiti is that Fayemi did mess all. And that would explain why he lost to a man with the worst ideas. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 9:43pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
modath: Nigerian banks can't be SME friendly because 1. They are/were making so much money from the government 2. The environment is conducive for it with high inflation and excess liquidity in circulation. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:47pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Katsumoto: And you think those facts aren't corrupted? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 9:52pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Katsumoto: People human all have ambitions and most people are ready to do anything to get to that ambition. It happens all over the world When interviewing for a job, How many people tell the whole truth about their background? When going for visa interviews, how many people tell the whole truth? You have to tell people what they want to hear before they vote you into office In the US right now, The bastion of modern democracy. there are 16 republicans and 3 democrats. All of them are saying juicy things that electorates want to hear Democrats: I would increase minimun wage(Low income people), I would grant amnesty and path to citizenship for illegals(Hispanics), I would review our criminal justice (Blacks) Republicans : I would reduce our debts to zero. I would create jobs, I would make the whole world fear us One of them would be president, I can guarantee that in 8yrs time the campaign promises would be the same If you are waiting for a Politician who would tell the absolute truth then you would wait forever Do you honestly think any Politician would win if he says I would retire 50% of workforce and use the money to develop infrstructure? I was in Osun State during Akande's regime. He made a compelling argument. Many thinkers agreed with him but he still lost the election because he retired workers to build infrastructure Whereas if another candidate comes and say I would employ all job seekers in govt minitries. I can guarantee you that the second politician would win 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 9:56pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by raumdeuter: 9:58pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Katsumoto: Elections in Nigeria is different. I really wish some of you are on ground and in touch How do you think in Oyo State an Akala was able to rule? How do you think in Lagos State an Obanikoro was close to ruling(If not for Tinubu), How do you think in Nigeria Jonathan was able to win an election So what stats are you reviewing that shows Fayemi for example did nothing in terms of infrastructures in Ekiti? I know from people on ground that Aregbesola did a lot of road projects in osun, I have heard same about Amosun too whether they are inflated is what I cant say but knowing Africa, It was definitely inflated like 98% of all projects in this continent |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 9:59pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
IlekeHD: Ashanti Elese Toothpick |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 10:06pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
IlekeHD: O kan gbagbe padi e |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 10:10pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Katsumoto: 10:10pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
raumdeuter: So your position is that these governors should continue to borrow billions to pay salaries?? You continue to overlook my points. 1. Politicians in the US actually deliver which is unlike naija policians 2. The current situation isn't sustainable. We already have several states that can't pay salaries 3. There is wastage, mismanagement and corruption. Eliminating these would free up funds raumdeuter: Nigeria can not progress if things don't change. You can't expect things to improve while expecting the status quo to remain. It is that simple. There is no need to re-invent the wheel. Nigeria need only look at what obtains in developed nations. I don't buy all these 'Nigerian factor' excuses. Otherwise lets just wait until things get really bad. |
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