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Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by plaetton: 9:59pm On Nov 16, 2015
sukkot:
sup big chief plaetton wink

Sup, my friend of many incarnations ?
grin
How is it going on your part of the firmament ?
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by Nobody: 10:02pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


You have argued Oduduwa is a martian who visited and landed in Ife sometimes ago. And you are doing it here arguing that the Lord in the wheel of ezekiel and of Elijah is ETT

We have no clarity on whether oduduwa was from benin or mecca or from the sky. If he indeed came from the sky then he is an ET because he wasn't born here,but certainly not a god.

If indeed the wheel flying in the sky was a true story,then it could only be other people with advance technology visiting the planet,or perhaps having contacts with humans

Lets not forget what happened when the first black people saw the american ariplane,they worshiped it like a god.
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by plaetton: 10:02pm On Nov 16, 2015
Ymodulus:


Wow!
Thanks bro.

grin grin@ ' fine tune '.

I see a lot going on here.

@ Plaetton Hi?


Thanks bro. Business is fine, so also family. Wow. I just missed this section.

I have to spend time here for some days

Greetings , brother Toothfairian.
cheesy
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by ValerianSteel(m): 10:02pm On Nov 16, 2015
One thing any religious bigot needs to know about Atheism is that to even identify as an atheist means that person has reached level of intelligence and intellectual prowess that others are not yet open to because they've have found knowledge and understanding where others fail to see it.

Before any bigot takes on an atheist anywhere in the world,they should always have it at the back of their mind that the atheist they are engaging are far more intelligent folks than they are who utilize the potentials of the wisdom at the disposal to expose the truth.

It's a tough job educating bigots regularly.Good work however,man was never educated in a year.It's a life long process.

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Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by Nobody: 10:12pm On Nov 16, 2015
kingebukasblog or what the hell is your moniker.

you are yet to prove to me why your context is the correct one. i am waiting.

after now, you people will say we are mocking you. why won't we mock you when you disappear in the face of logic?
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:17pm On Nov 16, 2015
ifeness:


We have no clarity on whether oduduwa was from benin or mecca or from the sky. If he indeed came from the sky then he is an ET because he wasn't born here,but certainly not a god.

Oduduwa desending from the sky account is allegory. I wounder what evidence you are looking for in allegorical account. Oduduwa was not from mecca. You are merging the two sides of the account as one. The account contain historical reveleation and cosmological account of the Yoruba people. In the historical sides of the story, Oduduwa is not from Mecca or son of Lamurudu.

Oduduwa is the essense of Iwa (character). The chain on which Oduduwa climbs down is DNA. The account holds that this chain connect the ancestors realm to phyiscal plain. On the physical plain, the chain went deep into a body of water and life came out. This proves that life started in water and every living soul has DNA which extended to ancestors.

DNA carries the gene which determine our trait and behaviour. This coded information passed from parent or ancestors is Oduduwa (Odu ti o da iwa, reserviour of behaviour) which pass down on DNA (alleorical chain).

Ogun was said to mould the bone. Ogun is allegorical depition of what we know as Metalic entity or simply Iron. Science states that Calcium which is metalic element makes the bone. So we can simply deduce Ogun in the account is not human but calcium.

ifeness:

If indeed the wheel flying in the sky was a true story,then it could only be other people with advance technology visiting the planet,or perhaps having contacts with humans

ETT have no evidence just like Allah

ifeness:

Lets not forget what happened when the first black people saw the american ariplane,they worshiped it like a god.

Proof this assertion is correct. When? Where? When did amazement become identifying an object as God?

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Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:22pm On Nov 16, 2015
ValerianSteel:
One thing any religious bigot needs to know about Atheism is that to even identify as an atheist means that person has reached level of intelligence and intellectual prowess that others are not yet open to because they've have found knowledge and understanding where others fail to see it.

Before any bigot takes on an atheist anywhere in the world,they should always have it at the back of their mind that the atheist they are engaging are far more intelligent folks than they are who utilize the potentials of the wisdom at the disposal to expose the truth.

It's a tough job educating bigots regularly.Good work however,man was never educated in a year.It's a life long process.

Eweso chief.

Atheists here are simplly noisemakers who couldnt justify religion beliefs. So most form attack against unjustify religion belief.

I also heard Johnydon22 was raped by his priest. How would you want such person not attacking forefront everything that has to do with God?
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by Johnysky(m): 10:25pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


Eweso chief.

Atheists here are simplly noisemakers who couldnt justify religion beliefs. So most form attack against unjustify religion belief.

I also heard Johnydon22 was raped by his priest.
How would you want such person not attacking forefront everything that has to do with God?

I have been banned for replying your post.. Please the bolded is false, the guy only used it as an analogy ..he was giving someone an e.g and he used my name to relay his analogy..

Please relaying such lies against me is offensive to me and i beg you please don't do it again. ..

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Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by Nobody: 10:28pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


Oduduwa desending from the sky account is allegory. I wounder what evidence you are looking for in allegorical account. Oduduwa was not from mecca. You are merging the two sides of the account as one. The account contain historical reveleation and cosmological account of the Yoruba people. In the historical sides of the story, Oduduwa is not from Mecca or son of Lamurudu.

Oduduwa is the essense of Iwa (character). The chain on which Oduduwa climbs down is DNA. The account holds that this chain connect the ancestors realm to phyiscal plain. On the physical plain, the chain went deep into a body of water and life came out. This proves that life started in water and every living soul has DNA which extended to ancestors.

DNA carries the gene which determine our trait and behaviour. This coded information passed from parent or ancestors is Oduduwa (Odu ti o da iwa, reserviour of behaviour) which pass down on DNA (alleorical chain).



ETT have no evidence just like Allah



Proof this assertion is correct. When? Where? When did amazement become identifying an object as God?

Why should I reply when you clearly do not understand what I'm saying. I don't want to talk about oduduwa and those DNA stuff,no time for all that.

The only God I believe in is myself and my body is my temple. It takes a brave mind to assume we are not the only intelligent beings among billions of solar systems. There is nothing wrong in thinking life only exist on this planet.
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:29pm On Nov 16, 2015
Johnysky:


I have been banned for replying your post.. Please the bolded is false, the guy only used it as an analogy ..he was giving someone an e.g and he used my name to relay his analogy..

Please relaying such lies against me is offensive to me and i beg you please don't do it again. ..

Lol

I read about it on this forum na.

No vex sire
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by ValerianSteel(m): 10:29pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


Eweso chief.

Atheists here are simplly noisemakers who couldnt justify religion beliefs. So most form attack against unjustify religion belief.

I also heard Johnydon22 was raped by his priest. How would you want such person not attacking forefront everything that has to do with God?
I'm speaking about the larger percentage of atheists worldwide.

I'm glad you said Unjustified religious belief cheesy

That's cheap for you to point out but in the case that ever happened,he has positively channeled his energy to seeking the truth about religion and the belief system he once was a part of and now he is man of his own footing,knowing where he stands on religious lines not because an incident in the past supposedly jeopardized his faith but because he has a certain amount on wisdom at his disposal to support his distaste for religion and God in all entirety.
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:30pm On Nov 16, 2015
ifeness:


Why should I reply when you clearly do not understand what I'm saying. I don't want to talk about oduduwa and those DNA stuff,no time for all that.

The only God I believe in is myself and my body is my temple. It takes a brave mind to assume we are not the only intelligent beings among billions of solar system. There is nothing wrong in thinking life only exist on this planet.

Still theism
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by Nobody: 10:33pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


Still theism

That is your problem. It doesn't affect me,I do whatever I want and I don't have rules set up in ancient scrolls.
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:35pm On Nov 16, 2015
ValerianSteel:
I'm speaking about the larger percentage of atheists worldwide.

I'm glad you said Unjustified religious belief cheesy

That's cheap for you to point out but in the case that ever happened,he has positively channeled his energy to seeking the truth about religion and the belief system he once was a part of and now he is man of his own footing,knowing where he stands on religious lines not because an incident in the past supposedly jeopardized his faith but because he has a certain amount on wisdom at his disposal to support his distaste for religion and God in all entirety.

that you cannot justify religion belief is not enough reason to disbelieve in God. God has more to do with religion belief. We have lot of people who belief in God but do not have or hold to any religion belief.

I dont want to talk about Johnydon any longer.

I hold that atheists should look deeper into religion belief and justification of God on a literal sense.

Shakti is a Goddess which represent Energy. We are know energy exist so do Shakti. I think you see the uncertainty of atheists wh only bark around Jehovah and Allah?

Atheists here/worldwide are God-haters. Simple
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:36pm On Nov 16, 2015
ifeness:


That is your problem. It doesn't affect me,I do whatever I want and I don't have rules set up in ancient scrolls.

Alot of ancient religion see individual as God.

Ask your Yoruba people. Ori eni ni Orisha eni.

Yoruba dont have scroll but we have Ifa.
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by Nobody: 10:41pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


Alot of ancient religion see individual as God.

Ask your Yoruba people. Ori eni ni Orisha eni.

Yoruba dont have scroll but we have Ifa.

Everyone should do what works best for them. I read everything but follow none. Where was Ifa when the Europeans came over?
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:46pm On Nov 16, 2015
ifeness:


Everyone should do what works best for them. I read everything but follow none. Where was Ifa when the Europeans came over?

Yoruba people says Eni ya ra ni Ogun n gbe.

Europeans have their own form of Ifa which is called geomancy.

Do not try bringing colonialism and slavery into this because all nation of man is guilty of this. Yoruba people conquered and enslaved some people too. That was then.

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Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by Nobody: 10:49pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


Yoruba people says Eni ya ra ni Ogun n gbe.

Europeans have their own form of Ifa which is called geomancy.

Do not try bringing colonialism and slavery into this because all nation of man is guilty of this. Yoruba people conquered and enslaved some people too. That was then.


Like I said you are free to practice what works for you. Ifa still offers animal sacrifice to gods and that's barbarism. I wonder who these gods are
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by dalaman: 10:50pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


that you cannot justify religion belief is not enough reason to disbelieve in God. God has more to do with religion belief. We have lot of people who belief in God but do not have or hold to any religion belief.

I dont want to talk about Johnydon any longer.

I hold that atheists should look deeper into religion belief and justification of God on a literal sense.

Shakti is a Goddess which represent Energy. We are know energy exist so do Shakti. I think you see the uncertainty of atheists wh only bark around Jehovah and Allah?

Atheists here/worldwide are God-haters. Simple

So says the man that calls himself an atheist. grin grin grin
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by Stconvict(m): 10:52pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


that you cannot justify religion belief is not enough reason to disbelieve in God. God has more to do with religion belief. We have lot of people who belief in God but do not have or hold to any religion belief.

I dont want to talk about Johnydon any longer.

I hold that atheists should look deeper into religion belief and justification of God on a literal sense.

Shakti is a Goddess which represent Energy. We are know energy exist so do Shakti. I think you see the uncertainty of atheists wh only bark around Jehovah and Allah?

Atheists here/worldwide are God-haters. Simple
Shakti is the Goddess of energy, then Bobola is the God of palm wine.
Wait, let me come up with another one. Johnathan is the Diety of good luck.

Hilarious!
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:55pm On Nov 16, 2015
Stconvict:

Shakti is the Goddess of energy, then Bobola is the God of palm wine.
Wait, let me come up with another one. Johnathan is the Diety of good luck.

Hilarious!

There is something we call shaktism. Google that and educate yourself.

That you are a child who can fathom and make joke of God doesnt mean we here are like you.
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:56pm On Nov 16, 2015
dalaman:


So says the man that calls himself an atheist. grin grin grin

lol

Spiritual atheist.

How many times do I need to tell you I am not atheist but spiritual atheist who tend to define God as an existing entity?
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:57pm On Nov 16, 2015
ifeness:


Like I said you are free to practice what works for you. Ifa still offers animal sacrifice to gods and that's barbarism. I wonder who these gods are

Blood oath still exist even in white-house.

Gods are natural entities.
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by ValerianSteel(m): 11:00pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


that you cannot justify religion belief is not enough reason to disbelieve in God. God has more to do with religion belief. We have lot of people who belief in God but do not have or hold to any religion belief.

I dont want to talk about Johnydon any longer.

I hold that atheists should look deeper into religion belief and justification of God on a literal sense.

Shakti is a Goddess which represent Energy. We are know energy exist so do Shakti. I think you see the uncertainty of atheists wh only bark around Jehovah and Allah?

Atheists here/worldwide are God-haters. Simple
Permit me to use your grammatical constructs-Literal sense has not proven to be literal cause if it has,Christianity today would have countered every arguements against it with answers that defy the questions of any man towards the religious belief it houses.

Christianity would have succeeded in putting up an unrefutable fact to why the belief system is the logical application of religion that trumps all theories and discussions against the Christian Faith.

To each man his definition of atheism.Yes most atheists here are probably inclined to speak against Christianity and not the many other gods/deities that exists.Why this is done is because many atheists were once adherents and practitioners of this faith before they identified as atheists.You can't rule on that and say they are simply God haters,no they are God-haters because he has failed to give them reasons as to why he exists and the role he plays in their lives.

Until this is done,atheism will always exist,in as much as religion hasn't proven God's existence beyond the leaves of the bible and the so called experience people claim to have of him,atheism will remain.
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:05pm On Nov 16, 2015
ValerianSteel:
Permit me to use your grammatical constructs-Literal sense has not proven to be literal cause if it has,Christianity today would have countered every arguements against it with answers that defy the questions of any man towards the religious belief it houses.

Christianity would have succeeded in putting up an unrefutable fact to why the belief system is the logical application of religion that trumps all theories and discussions against the Christian Faith.

To each man his definition of atheism.Yes most atheists here are probably inclined to speak against Christianity and not the many other gods/deities that exists.Why this is done is because many atheists were once adherents and practitioners of this faith before they identified as atheists.You can't rule on that and say they are simply God haters,no they are God-haters because he has failed to give them reasons as to why he exists and the role he plays in their lives.

Until this is done,atheism will always exist,in as much as religion hasn't proven God's existence beyond the leaves of the bible and the so called experience people claim to have of him,atheism will remain.

All I see is christian this and that.

Atheism is about God and not christianity.

Argument is flaw so Try again
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by Stconvict(m): 11:06pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


lol

Spiritual atheist.

How many times do I need to tell you I am not atheist but spiritual atheist who tend to define God as an existing entity?
Na wa for you o. Which one be spiritual atheist. You guys love twisting what atheism stand for. Believing in god or God in form of existent entity or non-existent entity already disqualifies your position as an atheist. You are simply a DEIST.
Well, I'm as logical as it gets. I don't do spiritual. I'm strictly scientific.
So, good luck with your spiritualism. Hope Ifa treats you well.
One question though. Do you offer sacrifices to your so-called gods and godesses? I can as well hand you my android phone for you to worship. We can call it Andy, the god of technology.
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:07pm On Nov 16, 2015
Johnydon22

I am very sorry for whatever I have cost you tonight. I am really sorry.

No mention would be replied. I be won sleep abeg
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by ValerianSteel(m): 11:09pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


All I see is christian this and that.

Atheism is about God and not christianity.

Argument is flaw so Try again
I based my argument on Christianity not solely on the God factor,most atheists who you termed God-haters fall out of Christianity before falling out with God.

So you read again undecided
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:09pm On Nov 16, 2015
Stconvict:

Na wa for you o. Which one be spiritual atheist. You guys love twisting what atheism stand for. Believing in god or God in form of existent entity or non-existent entity already disqualifies your position as an atheist. You are simply a DEIST.
Well, I'm as logical as it gets. I don't do spiritual. I'm strictly scientific.
So, good luck with your spiritualism. Hope Ifa treats you well.
One question though. Do you offer sacrifices to your so-called gods and godesses? I can as well hand you my android phone for you to worship. We can call it Andy, the god of technology.

Son of man pls read http://www.centerforabetterworld.com/SpiritualAtheism/about-spiritual-atheism.htm
Re: Nairaland Atheists, Let's Rebrand. by Nobody: 11:09pm On Nov 16, 2015
FOLYKAZE:


Blood oath still exist even in white-house.

Gods are natural entities.

All forms of oaths are barbaric,including marriages and every form of allegiance.

Which gods?

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