plaetton:


I understand perfectly what you are saying.

But the religious section is the battle front for young minds.

Sure, those of us who could should encourage children and youths to read and expand their minds.

But, I am telling you, as a father of a young teen, the amount of religious poison given to our kids in schools and in church adversely affects their intellects, their scientific curiosity, their imagination.
I see it first hand while discussing oxygen and how plants produce oxygen during photosynthesis. My young teen quickly asserted that god created oxygen. I asked how, she could not explain.
I tried to refresh her mind on how plants produce oxygen. Again She still insisted that god did it.

When I finally asked how she came about that fact, she said her biology teacher said so.

My point is, that we have to, at every given opportunity, push back on religious indoctrination.

herald9:

Are there really atheists in the the Nigerian government?

I think running for political posts really makes sense, at least if atheists and other free thinkers could infiltrate the government in large numbers and also take up higher administrative positions in our tertiary institutions, that's where they'll have the collective power to reform the system.

The first thing is to tackle our educational sector, review the curriculum and make philosophy and logic a compulsory course, irrespective of the field of study. Also, the history of Nigeria could be made compulsory to all students for at least a session.

Students could also be made to study African traditional religions- all of them. This will help put the Abrahamic religions on the same scale as our traditional religions.

Etc.

Teempakguy:




meanwhile, science has ALREADY found out how man was created. they named it evolution and your people have so far rejected it. so, what's your stand?

Teempakguy:
dude . . . how on earth did you enter the university?
the misconception here is NOT that, the misconception is that they think that baal exists. alright? that is the misconception. and baal doesn't exist so they were wrong. so he mocked them as we are mocking you.

lemme give you an example mocking of misconceptions.

jesus said to his disciples. these will be the signs that follow those that believe in me. they shall do signs and wonders.

so, do a wonder for me and have a pizza delivered to my door.

seriously, i meant that.

Teempakguy:
you also conveniently omitted the last paragraph. science has already discovered how man came about. and they did it using the method you bolded. so crawl back where you came from and ask jesus to gimme that pizza.

herald9:

Are there really atheists in the the Nigerian government?

I think running for political posts really makes sense, at least if atheists and other free thinkers could infiltrate the government in large numbers and also take up higher administrative positions in our tertiary institutions, that's where they'll have the collective power to reform the system.

The first thing is to tackle our educational sector, review the curriculum and make philosophy and logic a compulsory course, irrespective of the field of study. Also, the history of Nigeria could be made compulsory to all students for at least a session.

Students could also be made to study African traditional religions- all of them. This will help put the Abrahamic religions on the same scale as our traditional religions.

Etc.

KingEbukasBlog:


You really want me to ridicule you . Let's do this .

So since Elijah's God answered him and this is the same God we serve , why do you mock us ?

plaetton:
Atheism and theism are not opposites.

plaetton:
One believes in a set of things without proof, the other does not believe same for the very obvious lack of proof.
If theists had a shred of proof for any one of their beliefs, then their beliefs would no longer be a matter of faith.

Stconvict:

Hmmm. That's hard to believe o.
All through my life up until now, all the people I've met physically are konk religious people. My mum even threatened to disown me recently because of my toothfarianism, I had to joke it out to save myself from missing free meals and shelter.

Oh yeah, I remember some boys from Philosophy when I was in UNILAG, although we were not friends, but I always heard their heated arguments.
I was a bit radical in school about my toothfarianism, but it didn't get me anywhere except for cheap insults and mockery. You know why already. I had no backup singer.

Sometimes I even wonder why I was born to Nigerian parents because if most Nigerians are thinking towards the north, I'm thinking towards the south. Many times I wake up and wonder if everything around me is real. How can so many people be gullible in this part of the world. Why can't they just realise the shit-covered cake they are being offered.

I still think I'm dreaming though. So many people cannot be this dumb. Many of them should have realised as they grow up that they are being fed fairytales. All my life, I've heard of juju and witchcraft and I've not seen any physical (or perhaps spiritual) manifestation of it. People go to church, the fall like trees when pastor touch them. Well many pastors tried that on me, it didn't work. Some even tried applying some force, I stagger back only to regain my balance. The pastor will glance sternly at me and walk away.

Coming to Nairaland to read fellow toothfarians posts seem like the only sane place I can go.

*Sorry for writing so much, all of these just poured out of me. A dude still wondering what the f*ck is wrong with thinking logically.

KingEbukasBlog:


Do you realise either way it still points towards a creator .

Evolution implies gradual change .

Now in the iterative model of software development , the process involves development by specifying and implementing just part of the software . The process is repeated whereby a new version of the software is produced for each cycle of the model . In Human Evolution , there is gradual change and a version - homo erectus , homo habilis etc - is produced during this process .

When building a house . You have your building plan whatever design you want is done by the builders who build according to the plan . After the work is done , the house is supposed to look like whatever is drawn on paper . The design on paper is a product of the mind and the work done is an action of the mind

What does it imply , there is a goal you want to achieve , you have your blue print and whatever method is used to achieve this does not preclude the existence of the mind that begot it .

So can we conclude that God did it through evolution ? And natural processes like natural selection were supposedly the builders God employed to achieve the design of life forms ?

KingEbukasBlog:


Do you realise either way it still points towards a creator .

Evolution implies gradual change .

Now in the iterative model of software development , the process involves development by specifying and implementing just part of the software . The process is repeated whereby a new version of the software is produced for each cycle of the model . In Human Evolution , there is gradual change and a version - homo erectus , homo habilis etc - is produced during this process .

When building a house . You have your building plan whatever design you want is done by the builders who build according to the plan . After the work is done , the house is supposed to look like whatever is drawn on paper . The design on paper is a product of the mind and the work done is an action of the mind

What does it imply , there is a goal you want to achieve , you have your blue print and whatever method is used to achieve this does not preclude the existence of the mind that begot it .

So can we conclude that God did it through evolution ? And natural processes like natural selection were supposedly the builders God employed to achieve the design of life forms ?

Teempakguy:
oh he isn't the same God you serve. but that's a topic for another day.

now, the reason why we're mocking you is because the story of elijah and the prophets is a story. it's NOT real. it's neither true. nothing of the sort happened.

right?

Teempakguy:
but the bible said that God created humans with sand. the bible said we are products of incest.
science says that is not true. there is no unification possible. there are only two options.

1. accept that God created the universe and man from silicon dioxide and that we are product of incest.
2. accept that God did NOT create the universe and that man evolved from lesser primates as science reveals.

there is no third option.

johnydon22:
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FOLYKAZE:


I have a question for you dude. I know this is not the right place to ask but pls understand this is the only means I can pass my question across to you. And I belief you wil answer me rightly.

Pls, did man really step foot on Moon?

I saw some videos online and it making me confused as par concluding if the Apollo mission was staged or not. Pls how true was the mission to the moon?

KingEbukasBlog:


Haha ... You got owned and you are still fighting on . I admire the conspicuous bravery

... can you prove that nobody on the next floor in my hostel sneezed ?

KingEbukasBlog:


I'm not sure you know that a word like "allegory" or "figurative" exists . Its left for science to determine if it was done through evolution .

By the way I'm having a discussion with you and not implying the creation story should not be taken as literal or that evolution ever happened

Teempakguy:
what?
dude, i just told you that science is already done with that. there's nothing left there.

johnydon22:


Yes man really did and there have 6 of such missions . . . The Apollo missions are factual and satellites have captured images of the Apollo sites

I have seen some of the conspiracy theory videos you might have watched and i would like you to bring the points they proposed so both of us can analyse them and reach a conclusion..

FOLYKAZE:


The multiple light source, a radiation belt which a Nasa officer was quoted saying passing through it is yet impossible, the flying flag. There was no stars visible too.

I got the video on Youtube. Many things were mentioned which indicate the mission was staged

KingEbukasBlog:


@johnydon22 ... bro ... I just spotted an ignorant evolutionist

KingEbukasBlog:


Impaired reasoning

Your non belief is based on absence of proof ? Do you need proof to admit that your pc/phone is designed - performing tasks as requested by you ? I know there is a creator but there are different concepts of this creator which has led to the formation of different religions . Its as simple as that .


Can you name religions that have their creator as uncreated ?

KingEbukasBlog:


The North Koreans dare not see this Ya dead !

FOLYKAZE:


The multiple light source, a radiation belt which a Nasa officer was quoted saying passing through it is yet impossible, the flying flag. There was no stars visible too.

I got the video on Youtube. Many things were mentioned which indicate the mission was staged

Teempakguy:
and what is calling johnydon going to change?

the fact that cancer is being studied under the knowledge of evolution? or what? or the fact that the whole of genetics is now based on the theory of evolution? right.

even if a god set evolution into motion, it was

1. not a personal God.
2. not the abrahamic Gods.

either that or your bible _fucking lied.


peace out . . . and my pizza . . . where the hell is my pizza? hahn, have you gotten yours yet?

KingEbukasBlog:


Impaired reasoning

Your non belief is based on absence of proof ? Do you need proof to admit that your pc/phone is designed - performing tasks as requested by you ? I know there is a creator but there are different concepts of this creator which has led to the formation of different religions . Its as simple as that .


Can you name religions that have their creator as uncreated ?

Teempakguy:
and what is calling johnydon going to change?

the fact that cancer is being studied under the knowledge of evolution? or what? or the fact that the whole of genetics is now based on the theory of evolution? right.

even if a god set evolution into motion, it was

1. not a personal God.
2. not the abrahamic Gods.

either that or your bible _fucking lied.


peace out . . . and my pizza . . . where the hell is my pizza? hahn, have you gotten yours yet?

KingEbukasBlog:


Even Family Guy did a satire on that in one of its episodes .

Teempakguy:
hmmmn. and did you attempt to consider certain counter explanations?

KingEbukasBlog:


The North Koreans dare not see this Ya dead !

timonski:
You neva see juju no mean say e no dey exist.

FOLYKAZE:


Seriously the video I watched on Youtube is putting some doubt in my mind about the mission