lionel4power:
It assisted and
trained our cadre, our students and military students then. So I
must
say the cooperation between the two has been very great indeed".
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that is beyond just flattery... for a general to say another country trained it's forces.
so we actually trained those southes... we trained their general, which then trained col. Eben barrow.

So you trained SADF forces. Eben Barlow would've called you a baboon 35years ago, he was trained to kill you.

Are you deranged or what

If you were so good why didn't you send a brigade to help ANC during the border war.

mzilakazi:




Don't give us the list of psedo-democracy because you only experienced true democracy in 1999.

you're a waste of blood and tissue. A sub-functional illiterate who can't define the term democracy.

You're a blind patriot with an epileptic intellect incapable of supporting your country or holding on to any submittion under discussion.

Your idiocy and near-idiotic ramblings would have served as a comic relief if you weren't such a slow-wit and an irredeemable ignoramus.

You're an embarrassment to your country, clan and immediate family. Your lunacy is so pathetic standing on the borderline between normalcy and madness, it is hard to decipher and harder to cure.

Your ability to tell wrong from right, black from white is nonexistent.

The rest of your other mischievous compatriots had a slight sense of craftiness and knowledge to dance in an evasive circle of denial against facts.


But you, you have earned my honest pity.

You're a gone case. No hope whatsoever.
You don't even have any sense of shame or pride.
I won't call you a scum, no. You're just oddly wired.

lezz:
you're a waste of blood and tissue. A sub-functional illiterate who can't define the term democracy.

You're a blind patriot with an epileptic intellect incapable of supporting your country or holding on to any submittion under discussion.

Your idiocy and near-idiotic ramblings would have served as a comic relief if you weren't such a slow-wit and an irredeemable ignoramus.

You're an embarrassment to your country, clan and immediate family. Your lunacy is so pathetic standing on the borderline between normalcy and madness, it is hard to decipher and harder to cure.

Your ability to tell wrong from right, black from white is nonexistent.

The rest of your other mischievous compatriots had a slight sense of craftiness and knowledge to dance in an evasive circle of denial against facts.


But you, you have earned my honest pity.

You're a gone case. No hope whatsoever.
You don't even have any sense of shame or pride.
I won't call you a scum, no. You're just oddly wired.

You only became a fully fledged democracy in 1999 when you adopted a new constitution.
https://welections./2011/04/21/nigeria-2011/

http://www.thenation.com/article/nigerias-democratic-revolution/
Now f_uckof with your derailment.

lezz:
you're a waste of blood and tissue. A sub-functional illiterate who can't define the term democracy.

You're a blind patriot with an epileptic intellect incapable of supporting your country or holding on to any submittion under discussion.

Your idiocy and near-idiotic ramblings would have served as a comic relief if you weren't such a slow-wit and an irredeemable ignoramus.

You're an embarrassment to your country, clan and immediate family. Your lunacy is so pathetic standing on the borderline between normalcy and madness, it is hard to decipher and harder to cure.

Your ability to tell wrong from right, black from white is nonexistent.

The rest of your other mischievous compatriots had a slight sense of craftiness and knowledge to dance in an evasive circle of denial against facts.


But you, you have earned my honest pity.

You're a gone case. No hope whatsoever.
You don't even have any sense of shame or pride.
I won't call you a scum, no. You're just oddly wired.

Nigeria experienced true democracy in 1999. Fact!!!

Sexx without penetration is not sexx and in your case you were only allowed to finally penetrate without disturbance in 1999.

mzilakazi:


You know well that Nigeria's military most weakest link is its air wing. With portable vshorads you will explode all the air fleet and simply take pleasure at sinking their so called amphibious cobras with mortar and MGL.

our f-7s will make quick work

snydergp1st:


So you trained SADF forces. Eben Barlow would've called you a baboon 35years ago, he was trained to kill you.

Are you deranged or what

If you were so good why didn't you send a brigade to help ANC during the border war.

did you read the rubbish you just wrote... your general said that and I quote... " It assisted and trained our cadre, our students and military students then. So I must say the cooperation between the two has been very great indeed".
now go question YOUR OWN GENERAL who made that statement
.

jln115:

By hitting it precisely were the turret and the body of the tank came together, if you hit the T55 anywhere else the round would not penetrate, then its bye bye Ratel, That's why we never ever used our Ratel as a Tank destroyer exp for the ZT3 ATGM version of course.

so can the Sagaie destroy the t-55 too by circling it and hitting it's turret.
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lionel4power:
What vshorads? your starstreak is only 7km.... your oerlikon GDF is only 4th. so what vshorads?

vshorads is the starstreak mate, it just an abbreviation. So? it has a 7km range?? What are your Alpha or Mi24 going to hit us with, that has a further range?

lionel4power:
our f-7s will make quick work

Your F7s will also fall victims, they do not have PGMs and cannot even fire missiles at all.

lionel4power:
so can the Sagaie destroy the t-55 too by circling it and hitting it's turret.
.

Well that depends, according to your colleagues scenario his sending out his Sagaie against a whole armoured battalion.

And one vs one, a T55 will win 9 times out of 10.

mzilakazi:


Your F7s do not have PGM and cannot even fire missiles at all.

then we call in our drones.. remember we have one of the best drone fleet in Africa. even better than SA
.
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when u have a balance military... you have the luxury of redundancy

jln115:

vshorads is the starstreak mate, it just an abbreviation. So? it has a 7km range?? What are your Alpha or Mi24 going to hit us with, that has a further range?

just mere dumb bombs mate from 7.1 km up.. or cluster munitions

mzilakazi:


Your F7s will also fall victims, they do not have PGMs and cannot even fire missiles at all.

PCMS is not everything... even now 2015 Russian 2nd strongest in the world still uses dumb bonbs

lionel4power:
then we call in our drones.. remember we have one of the best drone fleet in Africa. even better than SA
.
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when u have a balance military... you have the luxury of redundancy

Drones, oh come on!! For correction your Chinese made drones are not any better than Denel made drones.

Your drones will have to come 1Km closer to be able to see us and that will spell their death.

lionel4power:
PCMS is not everything... even now 2015 Russian 2nd strongest in the world still uses dumb bonbs

Then that is not Russia that I know. Perhaps it was just practice.

lionel4power:
just mere dumb bombs mate from 7.1 km up.. or cluster munitions

And how are you going to hit your target from so high up mate?? we're not talking about fleets of ships here, we're talking about much much smaller units.

jln115:

And how are you going to hit your target from so high up mate?? we're not talking about fleets of ships here, we're talking about much much smaller units.

cluster munitions

lionel4power:
just mere dumb bombs mate from 7.1 km up.. or cluster munitions

By the way how will you even know our position and where you should drop cluster bombs. Cluster bombs are dropped at very low heights in order to be closer to the target. 7 KM is too high, your bombs might end up killing own friendly forces.

lionel4power:
cluster munitions

Cool so basically let go and pray that you hit your target. There's a reason almost all of todays modern militaries use PGMs instead of dum bombs.

mzilakazi:


Then that is not Russia that I know. Perhaps it was just practice.

Ok... tell that to ISIS, ALNusra and Syrian rebels

mzilakazi:


Drones, oh come on!! For correction your Chinese made drones are not any better than Denel made drones.

Your drones will have to come 1Km closer to be able to see us and that will spell their death.

you hit one... two strikes you with PCMS, Plus alpha jets and F-7s bombs u with dumb bombs...
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saturation attack.
we win, you lose anyway

jln115:

Cool so basically let go and pray that you hit your target. There's a reason almost all of todays modern militaries use PGMs instead of dum bombs.

no evidence that more than 10% of world militaries use PCMS.

lionel4power:
you hit one... two strikes you with PCMS, Plus alpha jets and F-7s bombs u with dumb bombs...
.
.
saturation attack.
we win, you lose anyway

No sane pilot would ever attack missile armed enermy using simple cluster munitions. Especially when that enemy is camouflaged and his location is unknown. Obviously we will align our gunners further apart in a pattern which is going to be difficult to deal with.

lionel4power:
our f-7s will make quick work

Do you mean the 2 F-7's still airworthy after 1 crashed 2months ago.

The very same F-7's that your airforce chief said can't even fire one single guided weapon.

I think you'll need some juju magic.

mzilakazi:


By the way how will you even know our position and where you should drop cluster bombs. Cluster bombs are dropped at very low heights in order to be closer to the target. 7 KM is too high, your bombs might end up killing own friendly forces.

no mate you don't know how cluster bomb works.... at a preset height it opens up and releases it's bomblets..
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it could open up and release its bomblets at just 50m... you can't shoot down cluster bombs

snydergp1st:


Why don't you post the report where N12bn went missing that should've been used for police and army barrack upgrades.

same corruption in the SANDF too. You can't point a finger on NAF without being a delusional hypocrit

mzilakazi:


No sane pilot would ever attack missile armed enermy using simple cluster munitions. Especially when that enemy is camouflaged and his location is unknown. Obviously we will align our gunners further apart in a pattern which is going to be difficult to deal with.

remember our cobras and ERC90 Sagaie, BTRs and BMPs swimming toward shore. they contain infantrymen and anti tank teams...
.
. they do mop up OP.

lionel4power:
no evidence that more than 10% of world militaries use PCMS.

USA
UK
Canada
Australia
South Africa
Japan
Russia
China
Brazil
India
Pakistan
South Korea
Thailand
Sweden
Germany
France
Netherlands
Algeria
Egypt
Israel
UAE
Turkey
Hungary

Considering there are +- 190 countries in the world(and some of them dont have militaries), and i just named 23 countries that have PGMs, i would say your notion of only 10% of countries having/Useing PGMs is incorrect mate!!

snydergp1st:


Do you mean the 2 F-7's still airworthy after 1 crashed 2months ago.

The very same F-7's that your airforce chief said can't even fire one single guided weapon.

I think you'll need some juju magic.

I don't speculate.
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give me facts.
.
did you count them yourself?

lionel4power:
did you read the rubbish you just wrote... your general said that and I quote... " It assisted and trained our cadre, our students and military students then. So I must say the cooperation between the two has been very great indeed".
now go question YOUR OWN GENERAL who made that statement
.

I've been under command of two different air force chiefs and both were never trained by Nigeria.

Lieutenant General Fabian Msimang got his training in India and Italy respectively, so you need to shop talking shiiit.

jln115:

USA
UK
Canada
Australia
South Africa
Japan
Russia
China
Brazil
India
Pakistan
South Korea
Thailand
Sweden
Germany
France
Netherlands
Algeria
Egypt
Israel
UAE
Turkey
Hungary

Considering there are +- 190 countries in the world(and some of them dont have militaries), and i just named 23 countries that have PGMs, i would say your notion of only 10% of countries having/Useing PGMs is incorrect mate!!

we have 243 countries mate... but UN recognised just 190.
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. that doesn't mean those other 53 don't have a military or defence force.
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so 243/23=10.5 approx
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still within range mate... so you're incorrect again. mate

lionel4power:
then we call in our drones.. remember we have one of the best drone fleet in Africa. even better than SA
.
.
when u have a balance military... you have the luxury of redundancy

What drone fleet.


Where were the drones when 105 poorly armed mumus got kidnapped.