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| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by angiography(m): 9:34am On Nov 28, 2015 |
Onereflection, I do subscribe to that white paper by the Yoruba groups tho, but couldn't we assess how to partner with the ohanaeze at least where we agreed(regionalism)....?? 2. Afenifere has been infected by political jobberism....I don't trust them a nadir- a feeling shared by most people I've spoken with on this matter 3. Whatever the Yoruba elders are doing without carrying the Yoruba youths along is DOA 4. NOW, THERE MUST BE A TIME FRAME. A time frame keeps a kinda pressure on us and erodes laxity and complacency 5. We don't actually have the masses along, and relating to the 3rd point I made, a sensitization of our students in various higher institution is imperative- university should be rallying point for intellectuals (and thank God I'm back to school, lol). There should be first and foremost, a conference in all Yoruba towns, LGAs, states and then nationally. And have a common standpoint that any central government that can't give us our aspiration shouldn't expect block votes from the south west, albeit this would come with initial sensitization of our people.... And yea....there should be a template for development which sadly is lacking in the Yoruba states |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by FFKfuckedBIANCA: 9:38am On Nov 28, 2015 |
OnReflection:I concur |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Lushore1: 9:45am On Nov 28, 2015 |
quimicababes:Thanks quimicababes for the books list. Some of spiritual baptist and orisha table i found on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJRpojxCRm0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtceTQ4s1CA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp3fvYC7GVQ |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by davidhume1: 9:48am On Nov 28, 2015 |
CabbieAC:Lmfao!!! I can't believe you've heard of baba alado. You're right, the guy is a mystery. Personally, I think he has a cut in all the taxes levied at road junctions and markets. There was one small street in mushin that tried to overthrow him, he came back and wiped them out! I think he did the thuggin himself when he was younger, but now he has underlings doing his bidding. He's like Keyser söze in "the usual suspects" movie. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by angiography(m): 9:49am On Nov 28, 2015 |
OnReflection:I agree with you. Now, what's your template for the way forward. Want to see ur own personal perspective I said mine with first post of this stage |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by FFKfuckedBIANCA: 9:55am On Nov 28, 2015 |
angiography:I agree with your points but i am slightly uncomfortably with your first suggestion. Going by the last Confab, the SE delegates also didnt speak with one voice. Ebonyi state was seriously against regionalsim, they opposed it vigorusly. Micheal Ahamba, another SE delegate, argued against any form of secession and balkanisation. Partnering with the SE might be a good idea but one thing you should know about them is that they always want an offer that would make them the Alpha & Omega. They always want to dominate. Prof Ben Nwabueze, a SE delegate at the conference, asseretd that the indigene/non-indigene dichotomy be removed so that the SEasterners can also have equal political and social rights as the natives in Lagos |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by angiography(m): 10:09am On Nov 28, 2015 |
FFKfuckedBIANCA:Now this is something... |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DrMoffy(m): 11:01am On Nov 28, 2015 |
CabbieAC:Aare, Ikire own is actually Akire of Ikire and not Alakire. tbh, I'm in love with ds thread but I hardly have time. I only check once in a while even though I put it on permanent viewing mode on mobile most times. I will try and see if I can compile some information about Ikire this week, there's a book written by my late uncle(journalist/politician) IKIRE A-Z by Chief Wahab Toye. I will call dad if I can still get a copy anytime I visit home. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by PrincessJaneDoe: 11:04am On Nov 28, 2015 |
shymm8x: ![]() I shall remain mysterious, shymm8x ![]() |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by PrincessJaneDoe: 11:11am On Nov 28, 2015 |
shymm8x:Haha Shymm8x, I am not from Kwara. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DrMoffy(m): 11:24am On Nov 28, 2015 |
modath:lol to sis. Modath comment.... Igboro indeed! I can smell combination of OAU aluta spirit here. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 12:12pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
MayorofLagos:Sir, I like this. I'll post all the kings of Ijebu/Remo towns - I've got a link for that. Hopefully, other folks will post the names of the kings in their own areas. Also, I like the story of Moremi. And I think we should also celebrate some of those great Yoruba women of yore. I know the stories of Moremi, Oya, and Efunroye Tinubu. Know of Osun but her story isn't out there like that. I believe there were more of them and it would be nice if folks can educate/enlighten us about these women. Yoruba women back then were powerful. It's Saturday and I'm going to be on/off till later in the day cos I need to tidy up and do my own shopping as a bachelor. This is the day of the week where you miss big momma. Mums are the best, I tell ya. ![]() |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 12:13pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
PrincessJaneDoe:Lool. Don't worry, I've got my own little way of solving mystery. ![]() |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 12:14pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
PrincessJaneDoe:My bad, I actually thought you're from Kwara cos I saw you reference the state. So where in the commonwealth are you from, Ms. Sunshine? |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 12:39pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Mayoroflagos. These are the Ijebu/Remo ones (mynd44 - if the spambot bans me, I beg you unlock my post): Oba S. K. Adetona - Awujale of Ijebuland Oba Adeniyi Sonariwo - Akarigbo of Remo Oba Kabiru Sotobi - Ayangburen of Ikorodu Oba Kamorudeen Ishola Animashaun - Arolugbade Elepe II of Epe (Oloja of Epe)...There's also Olu of Epe for Eko/Awori-Epe Oba Michael Sonuga - Olofin of Ilisan Remo Oba Oladele Ogunbade - Ologere of Ogere Oba Adeleke Idowu Basibo - Alaperu of Iperu Remo Oba Akeem Adesanya - Alara of Ilara-Epe Oba Emanuel Ademolu - Alakenne of Ikenne Oba Adetunji Amidu Osho - Alayeode of Ode Remo Oba A. A. Oguntayo - Ajalorun of Ijebu-Ife Oba Y. O. Adekoya - Dagburewe of Idowa Oba O. A. Alakija - Akija of Ikija Oba A. O. Odebunmi - Olowu of Owu-Ijebu Oba L. A. Adewale - Ebumawe of Ago-Iwoye Oba S. A. Onafowokan - Oloko of Ijebu-Imushin Oba M. A. Daini - Alaiye of Odogbolu Oba G. A. Abiodun - Owa of Okun-Owa Oba A. O. Ogunrin - Olomu of Omu-Ijebu Oba G. O. A. Adetoye - Liken of lbefun Oba I. O. Adekoya - Ayanyelu of Ijesa-Ijebu Oba J. A. Adesanya - Gbegande of Ososa Oba J. A. Quadri - Alaporu of Ilaporu Oba E. A. Oreniyi - Obiri of Aiyepe Oba A. K. A. Ogunuga - Saderiren of lsonyin Oba (Dr) K. A. O. Sansi - Obelu of Esure Oba L. A. A. Adelaja - Alakan of Aiyepe Oba O. A. Awofeso- Elerunwon of Erunwon Oba A. A. A. Omotayo - Kobowore of Jobore Oba (Dr.) Remi Adeoye - Alamunren of Okelamunren Oba E. A. A. Deinbo - Alaiye Aba of Aiyepe Oba M. A. Obalaja - Oru of Imoru Oba S. A. Odukoya - Oliworo of Iworo Oba J. A. Adenaiya - Magunsen of Itamarun Oba Orimolusi of Ijebu-Igbo - Vacant Oba Onipe of Ibu-Arijan - Vacant Oba Elero of Itebu - Vacant Oba Olowu of Aiyepe - Vacant Oba Limeri of Awa - Vacant Oba Oloru of Oru - Vacant Oba Moyeso of Itele - Vacant Oba Olowu-Iji of Odolowu (Okun-Owa)- Vacant HRH Oba B. A. Ogunnuga - Akalako of Aiyepe HRH Oba J. Ola Adekoya - Liken of Iwopin HRH Oba F. R. A. Adegbesan - Onitasin of Itasin HRH Oba Babs A. Adebisi - Elese of Ilese Oba Lenuwa of Ode-Omi (vacant) Oba J. B. Otukoya - Oligun of Ilugun – North Oba G. A. Banjo - Ajalaiye of Ilugun South M. A. Orelaja - Sapenuwa of Ogbere |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 12:52pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
MayorofLagos:Owner of Lagos, thou shall not vex, iya is not of here & is trying to look out for her sis .. ![]() IlekeHD o mo pe awa gan iwe ni a fi n boju, oju eje gan wa ni oju wa, ti eniyan kan ba da ina si ori, a ma ba so. ![]() Ti won n ba n pe eleniyan, se ni on je..... |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by PrincessJaneDoe: 12:55pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
shymm8x:Osun ![]() |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 12:59pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
DrMoffy:Me ke? * in queen Salawa Abeni's voice* " Gentle lady ni mi, emi ki n se fighter oo, keni keni ma sin mi lo si iba ija"... *dancing fuji garbage style dance out of thread*.. ![]() |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by angiography(m): 1:03pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
DrMoffy:omo ikire ni emi naa o... |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 1:07pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
CabbieAC:Big Venice - one of the most beautiful cities in Europe. History meets modernity. Ibadan and Venice - two cities separated by maintenance culture Anyway, I think Abeokuta is more of Venice than Ibadan due to how splendid the Egba architecture is. I love their storeys. The Egbas definitely built nice houses. Abeokuta
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| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 1:13pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
PrincessJaneDoe:Ha! ![]() You never said anything about Osun on this thread - now I see where the "Jane Doe" name came from. ![]() I need Peter Andre's "Mysterious Girl" for this one. ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqIq4B1rgl4 |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 1:22pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 1:33pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Firefire:Nice tune. What's the name of the group? Yoruba tunes always have great melodies and they're spiritual. Don't sleep on me when it comes to Yoruba worship songs - I grew up in Celestial Church till we moved to Redeemed Church in 1997. But I can still flow to a lot of Celestial Church songs. ![]() Check out this Yoruba medley - my favourite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJOfRtuYjCw |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 1:51pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
cool thread... ![]() |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:13pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
CabbieAC:Oluorogbo was/is a deity who started the art of writing. Moremi's son was Ela. Many parts of what you posted are wrong sir and misleading. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:14pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
Obatala. Before he was a god. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:16pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
MayorofLagos:. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 2:16pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
MayorofLagos:. |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DrMoffy(m): 2:19pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
modath:aunty yi combine ibile mo tushness ni sha! |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DrMoffy(m): 2:25pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
angiography:wow! so happy as if I won lotto. E pele sir. Ile baase lawa o ooo, eyin nko sir? |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by angiography(m): 2:43pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
DrMoffy:omo ile oluwata ni mi... se en gburo ile |
| Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by TreyQ: 2:51pm On Nov 28, 2015 |
The Structural Components Of Oyo (Yoruba) Empire In comparison with territories like Benin and Dahomey, various sources obtainable and accessible on the history of Oyo are quite sparse. The main source is always Johnson's History of the Yoruba (which some aspects have been countered by recent scholars), and this can be supplemented with other local histories, information recorded by Europeans along the coast, photo evidence, and a variety of oral traditions including oriki and Ifa verses. Even when the evidence is largely available, as it is for the late 18th and early 19th centuries, the exact chronology is still often difficult to retell. The only Europeans to have visited Oyo-Ile were Clapperton and the Lander brothers reported between 1826 and 1830. This was shortly before the town was deserted, and when the empire was already in sharp decline. There is no credible evidence yet for when the kingdom was founded, the first four Alaafin listed by Johnson were probably mythical figures. Although Sango, the fourth Alaafin, is still worshipped as the Oyo divinity of thunder, and the cult had great spiritual and political importance. Sango is said to have had a Nupe mother. Oyo-lle itself lies in the far north of Yorubaland, not far from the Bariba and Nupe areas, and it is possible that the original rulers were replaced by a dynasty from Nupe. Therefore, the explanatory variables appear acceptable and somewhat convincing. Let us now focus on the components of The Old Oyo Empire The Oyomesi The Oyo Mesi were seven principal councillors of the state. They constituted the Electoral Council and possessed legislative powers, similar to today's United States Congress. The Bashorun, Agbaakin, Samu, Alapini, Laguna, Akiniku and an Ashipa are the seven members of this council. They represented the voice of the nation and had the chief responsibility of protecting the interests of the empire. The Alaafin was required to take counsel with them whenever any important matter affecting the state occurs. Each man had a state duty to perform at court every morning and afternoon. Each mesi had a deputy whom they would send to the Alaafin if his absence was unavoidable. The head of the council of Oyo Mesi, the Bashorun, consulted the Ifa oracle for approval from the gods. New alaafins of Oyo were seen as appointed by the gods. They were regarded as Ekeji Orisa. The Bashorun was a sort of prime minister. He had the final say on the nomination of the new Alaafin. The Oyo Mesi developed as a check on the Alaafin's power. The Bashorun's power rivalled that of the Alaafin. For example, the Bashorun orchestrated many religious festivals; in addition to being commander-in-chief of the army, this gave him considerable independent religious authority. The Ogboni The Oyo Mesi does not enjoy an absolute power or influence, and while the Oyo Mesi may wield political influence, the Ogboni represented the popular opinion backed by the authority of religion, and therefore the view of the Oyo Mesi could be moderated by the Ogboni. And most interestingly, there are checks and balances on the power of the Alaafin and the Oyo Mesi and thus no one is arrogated absolute power. The Ogboni was a very powerful secret society composed of freemen noted for their age, wisdom and importance in religious and political affairs. Its members enjoyed immense power over the common people due to their religious station. A testament to how widespread the institution was is the fact that there were Ogboni councils at nearly all sub-courts within Yorubaland. Aside from their duties in respect to the worship of the earth, they were responsible for judging any case dealing with the spilling of blood.[26] The leader of the Ogboni, the Oluwo, had the unqualified right of direct access to the Alaafin of Oyo on any matter. Removing an Alaafin of Oyo Chief among the responsibilities of the Bashorun was the all important festival of Orun. This religious divination, held every year, was to determine if the members of the Mesi still held favour with the Alafin. If the council decided on the disapproval of the Alaafin, the Bashorun presented the Alafin with an empty calabash, or parrot's egg as a sign that he must commit suicide. This was the only way to remove the Alaafin because he could not be legally deposed. Once given the parrot's egg, the Bashorun would proclaim, "the gods reject you, the people reject you, the earth rejects you." The Alaafin, his eldest son, and the Samu, his personal counsellor and a member of the Oyo Mesi all had to commit suicide in order to renew the government all together. The process and suicide ceremony took place during the Orun festival. Military There was a high degree of professionalism in the army of the Oyo Empire. Its military success was due in large part to its cavalry as well as the leadership and courage of Oyo officers and warriors. Because its main geographic focus was north of the forest, Oyo enjoyed easier farming and thus a steady growth in population. This contributed to Oyo's ability to consistently field a large force. There was also an entrenched military culture in Oyo where victory was obligatory and defeat carried the duty of committing suicide. This do-or-die policy no doubt contributed to the military aggressiveness of Oyo's generals. Cavalry The Oyo Empire was the only Yoruba state to adopt cavalry; it did so because most of its territory was in the northern savannah. The origin of the cavalry is disputed; however, the Nupe, Borgu and Hausa in neighbouring territories also used cavalry and may have had the same historical source. Oyo was able to purchase horses from the north and maintain them in metropolitan Oyo because of partial freedom from the tsetse fly. Cavalry was the long arm of the Oyo Empire. Late 16th and 17th century expeditions were composed entirely of cavalry. There were drawbacks to this. Oyo could not maintain its cavalry army in the south but could raid at will. Cavalry in highly developed societies such as Oyo was divided into light and heavy. Heavy cavalry on larger imported horses was armed with heavy thrusting lances or spears and also with swords. Light cavalry on smaller indigenous ponies was armed with throwing spears or bows. Oyo's cavalry forces included not only nobles, the norm in West African warfare, but foreign slaves from the Hausa, Nupe and Bornu states. Infantry Infantry in the region around the Oyo Empire was uniform in both armour and armament. All infantry in the region carried shields, swords and lances of one type or another. Shields were four feet tall and two feet wide and made of elephant or ox hide. A 3-foot-long (0.91 m) heavy sword was the main armament for close combat. The Yoruba and their neighbours used triple barbed javelins which could be thrown accurately from about 30 paces. Structure The Oyo Empire, like many empires before it, used both local and tributary forces to expand its domains. The structure of the Oyo military prior to its imperial period was simple and closer aligned to the central government in metropolitan Oyo. This may have been fine in the 15th century when Oyo controlled only its heartland. But to make and maintain farther conquest, the structure underwent several changes. The Eso Oyo maintained a semi-standing army of specialist cavalry soldiers called the Eso or Esho. These were 70 junior war chiefs who were nominated by the Oyo Mesi and confirmed by the Alaafin of Oyo. The Eso were appointed for their military skill without regard to heritage and were led by the Are-Ona-Kakanfo. After Oyo's return from exile, the post of Are-Ona-Kakanfo was established as the supreme military commander. He was required to live in a frontier province of great importance to keep an eye on the enemy and to keep him from usurping the government. During Oyo's imperial period, the Are-Ona-Kakanfo personally commanded the army in the field on all campaigns. Metropolitan Army Since the Are-Ona-Kakanfo could not reside near the capital, arrangements had to be made for the latter's protection in case of emergency. Forces inside metropolitan Oyo were commanded by the Bashorun, leading member of the Oyo Mesi. As stated earlier, Metropolitan Oyo was divided into six provinces divided evenly by a river. Provincial forces were thus grouped into two armies, under the Onikoyi and the Okere for the east and west side of the river respectively. Lesser war chiefs were known as Balogun, a title carried on by the soldiers of Oyo's successor state, Ibadan. Tributary Army Tributary leaders and provincial governors were responsible for collecting tribute and contributing troops under local generalship to the imperial army in times of emergency. Occasionally, tributary leaders would be ordered to attack neighbours even without the backing of the main imperial army. These forces were often utilized in Oyo's distant campaigns on the coast or against other states. 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