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Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by SapeleGuy: 10:42pm On May 22, 2009
Toshman -  This exploitation of the Niger delta for petroleum oil has been ongoing for over 60 years. I don't think that you can undo that amount of damage in 8 years. This is not to condone the corruption or incompetence that has beset us. Your argument is analogous to saying the rape victim deserved what they got, That can't be right.

The problem goes beyond corruption. In Germany, bribes were a tax deductible expense, simply said corruption was legalised and institutionalised, but they were able to develop and thrive. 40 years ago Spain and Portugal were 3rd world countries with histories of brutal dictatorships and corruption but they were able to develop and thrive.

If your assumption is correct, why have the areas outside the Niger Delta been unable to develop? For the bitter truth I refer you to Asari.

Asari Dokubo was right - Wa Zo Bia are parasites. that is why they are scared of Land reform and repealing the land use act.

There is gold, diamonds, coal, tantalite and other minerals why are we not mining these and sharing with the rest of the nation. Why do they allow $3.5 billion to be lost every year by flaring gas. Multiply $3.5 billion by 40 years, are the niger delta people responsible for that loss? What happened to all this talk of diversifying the economy?
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by bawomolo(m): 10:49pm On May 22, 2009
and what did the niger-deltan/igbo reps say? they just made some bellyful noise and got on with it as usual?
probably nothing. The truth is this alhaji would go back to irrelevancy any time soon. Any publicity is good publicity for these ducks
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by presido1: 11:11pm On May 22, 2009
SapeleGuy:
Asari Dokubo was right - Wa Zo Bia are parasites. that is why they are scared of Land reform and repealing the land use act.
How can he be right? Is Igbo land not producing oil? WaZoBia are parasites but Bia wanted to be on their own some 40 yrs ago you people sabotaged them.
Now you people are enjoying the fruit. Igbos don't need the oil in Ijaw land to survive we have enough that will take us to any level if we had succeeded.
Gas flaring you are talking about also happens in Igbo land which am aware of.
Tell you asari to remove Bia from his list of parasites, we need nobody to stand on our own rather they need us.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by SapeleGuy: 11:22pm On May 22, 2009
Presido - How come you are not campaigning for resource control? The oil being produced in the east is not enough to go round the south east zone talk less of 36 states. There is still a market for coal, why has production stopped? Why are you not campaigning for the Land Use Act to be changed so you can use what you have got to develop?
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by sosisi(f): 12:04am On May 23, 2009
SapeleGuy:
Presido - How come you are not campaigning for resource control? The oil being produced in the east is not enough to go round the south east zone talk less of 36 states. There is still a market for coal, why has production stopped? Why are you not campaigning for the Land Use Act to be changed so you can use what you have got to develop?
most of the identified wells haven't even begun production.There's enough oil in Igboland to sustain it and more being discovered .
And Igbos don't need oil for survival
Why should we fight,didn't you people say you wanted one Nigeria?
We've fought one war,that is enough.
Let the other disgruntled groups fight theirs and live to tell the tale.
Na siddon dey look we go do this time around.
let every man carry his cross, my fathers carried theirs
I can promise you the Igboman will not fight Ijawman because he realizes it would be for the benefit of the Hausaman besides the Ijaw man is his relative
we cannot be manipulated like that,to fight against our cousins
We understand what it means to be maltreated for what you believe in.
We wish them well and pray this comes to a peaceful end.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by Nobody: 12:06am On May 23, 2009
SapeleGuy:
Presido - How come you are not campaigning for resource control? The oil being produced in the east is not enough to go round the south east zone talk less of 36 states. There is still a market for coal, why has production stopped? Why are you not campaigning for the Land Use Act to be changed so you can use what you have got to develop?
It wont be changed. the north would either literarily starve to death or pour enmasse into the south.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by biina: 1:23am On May 23, 2009
davidylan:
It wont be changed. the north would either literarily starve to death or pour enmasse into the south.
The problem of the average southerner, feeling the average northerner desires what the south has. I doubt you have ever lived in the north, else you wouldn't make such a statement.
If Nigeria was to break up, the north will not have the economical potential of other areas, but they would be politically stable and progress at their own pace.
The average northerner is not as ambitious as the average southerners. Do not use their elite as a template for the entire region.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by NINETOFIVE(m): 1:27am On May 23, 2009
There was a northerner in one program that made a similar suggestion for the military to go and clear all of the Niger delta, then you start to wonder how people like that sleep in the night, I just pray this problem won't escalate.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by Bialegend(m): 1:40am On May 23, 2009
OneNaija:
@toshmann Your Statement is fucking wrong. never tried to repeat that.You say Ibori was welcome as a chief. stop that stupid lie. I think your parents is from the northern trying to kills Innocent peoples that why you are defending them.The Northern are all Morons.They are stupid as well as fela say. Zombie.I don't think this Nigeria is one Naija. they pretend and kills the peoples all.Why are you saying Niger delta receive the big amount that a fucking lie. never they never receive it. the President and the Govt they always say fake alarm about that idea.They are lieing.You northern will see something in future that is my dream because you are slowpoke as well.
But your name is still One Naija. I do not expect you slowpoke to change your handle anytime soon. As someone said, you lots even prefer to suffer your "deserved" fate at the hands of your awusa/fulani masters than to fight and take your destiny into your own hands. Umu anumanu.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by Bialegend(m): 1:45am On May 23, 2009
asha 80:
why is anyone especially southerners suprised at these?so you guys do not know or pretend not to know that that is how most guys up north think?

continue decieving urselves.
Don't mind the hypocrits. I wonder why the comment by that cattle rearer comes as a surprise to any of them. Let the man come out with another comment that we are not familiar with about his people. This one is so cheap to surprise anyone. Na today? Nonsense and ingredients!!!
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by naijaking1: 2:25am On May 23, 2009
SapeleGuy:
Presido - How come you are not campaigning for resource control? The oil being produced in the east is not enough to go round the south east zone talk less of 36 states. There is still a market for coal, why has production stopped? Why are you not campaigning for the Land Use Act to be changed so you can use what you have got to develop?
I just can't understand how you, Ibime, and others who support and worship Adaka Boro and other betrayers of the eastern nigeria cause; and who openly, and unapologitically profess their love and preferrence for the Hausaman over the Igboman would have the gut to ask about repealing the land use act.
You know that the act was a reward for winning the civil war you guys supported against your Igbo cousins/uncles/aunties/brothers/enemies----whatever.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by toshmann(m): 4:10am On May 23, 2009
u guys can go on raging and ranting. those guys have been a menace to the peace of the area. they kidnapped white people, and white people ran away, they kidnapped rich nigerians, the rich became scared, now who's next? a predator will always be a predator. unfortunately, innocent people will die in the process.

this is not about the aboki statement. the fact is, if the niger-deltans can hold their leaders to account, then they will have better representation at the center, and wont have the need for all this militant groups. i dont blame the fed govt in this issue. it is long overdue. if those miscreants are not contained today, it wont be easy to contain them in 5 yrs time.

we nigerians like to hide the truth and believe what we want to beleive.

truth hurts. but denial doesnt change the facts. the violence wont end without a fight. we cant have a part of the country where our govt have no control over. we cant have 2 parralel countries. something had to happen. and this is it. let the struggle for niger-delta rights shift from the violent jungle to the dialogue table. make use of every peaceful means, at least this is not abacha. it is better that violence and it will be better to start by holding ur own leaders like ibori and alamiesigha and odili. etc. they can start with what they have. those states recieve more money than cross-river state, yet the cross-river governor was able to make some visible changes in his state.

truth hurts
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by blinx4real(m): 5:10am On May 23, 2009
Going thru the thread and posts, I must say that I am very disappointed with the crop of posters on this topic,  the deep rot of tribalism that has taken hold of you all is despicable.

First of all, if you do not realise it, this is exactly what the militants want, a state of anarchy that will project them to relevance and change them from thieves and hooligans who have been living of money made from kidnapping and oil bunkering to freedom figthers and saviours of the ND pple.

The case for development of ND has never been denied nor contested but what you all need to realise is that war and taking up arms will not solve it, today the SRi-Lankan war against the Tamils are over, the tigers have all been killed or routed but the plight of the tamils have not been resolved, infact they are just begining. I think it is totally unfair for you all to sit in ur plush and ac-ed houses in d UK, hypocritically in Lagos and sadistically even in Abuja in relative peace and tranquility offered you by the hospitality of the same people you so shamelessly call despotic and you are all willing to do away with and clamour for violence in the ND.
The only people who should have any liver to say anything on this topic should be browsing from Gbaramatu kingdom.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by blinx4real(m): 5:12am On May 23, 2009
In this age when the dreams of Martin Luther King Jnr that ]"every man, woman and child will no longer be judged by the color of their skins, eyes or where they come from but by the capacity of their intellect" is begining to come to realisation all over the world, we are threading the path of backwardness,  You are no better than the corrupt ministers and senators in Abuja, in fact you are worse.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by blinx4real(m): 5:32am On May 23, 2009
Una don make me vex and I find it hard to stop the onslaught,,
For all those crying foul and intimidation, exploitation and all, have you bothered to find out the truth of how the biz is run in the oil and gas industry? The regular payments in cash and kind that go to the community heads and youth leaders from the multi-nationals before any project can be done at all, has anyone told you what an FTO (freedom to operate) is? that must be collected from the community before mobilisation? Even after collecting LTO from DPR.
Do the contrators tell you that any project work in ND costs more than 200% higher than what it will cost any where else in nigeria (because of all the community issues that you will face) and will be delayed more times than you can imagine? The ND has been turned into a lawless entity because of series of bad government and it is not just the Fed govt that is to blame, Odili was collecting 13billion Naira on a monthly basis for 8 years, and nothing to show for it besides funding Ateke Tom and paying for chieftaincy titles all over the country.
Lets stop this blame game and point at the real issues, militancy will not resolve the ND debacle it will further complicate the plight of the people, ND needs true represenation at all levels of govt and reps that can be trusted to press home the real issues rather than money sharing reps like we currently have.
Kudos to Gov AMechi who is fired up and is presenting the zero tolerance stance for militancy, that is the kind of govt we need in ND, not govs that will be paying them salary from the state security vote.

ND cannot be expunged out of Nigeria, it has contributed too much to be neglected but only through dialogue and discussions can it be achieved, if the Ogonis can accomplish this much without firing a bullet, why can't the others take a cue? If Mandela can win the war against Apartheid from inside the prison, then there is no excuse for this war, All this org, MEND, NPVF, IYC etc etc are all self serving, there funding is provided by politicians and companies that want higher stake in the oil biz and have no interest of the pple at heart
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by beystwin: 10:36am On May 23, 2009
Wa Zo Bia are parasites.
you can say that again! wink
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by freed(m): 2:55pm On May 25, 2009
yea just like the Biafran war, kill 40 million for the sake of Nigeria
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by adconline(m): 6:12pm On May 25, 2009
this is how   most naija politicians think , especially if you are from the north. Their allocations, bribes, perks , allowances, and take homes are taking a hit, and MEND has been instrumental in helping that decline.  So its better to do away with 20 million people whose source of wealth sustains the rest of the country- with politicians taking 80% of the income than to let 100 million die of hunger. We are Nigeria because oil is flowing from Niger Delta. We will all die if MEND stops  oil money from reaching northerners- nay Nigeria
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by ono(m): 6:28pm On May 25, 2009
$osisi:
most of the identified wells haven't even begun production.There's enough oil in Igboland to sustain it and more being discovered .
And Igbos don't need oil for survival
Why should we fight,didn't you people say you wanted one Nigeria?
We've fought one war,that is enough.
Let the other disgruntled groups fight theirs and live to tell the tale.
Na siddon dey look we go do this time around.
let every man carry his cross, my fathers carried theirs
I can promise you the Igboman will not fight Ijawman because he realizes it would be for the benefit of the Hausaman besides the Ijaw man is his relative
we cannot be manipulated like that,to fight against our cousins
We understand what it means to be maltreated for what you believe in.
We wish them well and pray this comes to a peaceful end.
Nice one.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by freed(m): 10:40pm On May 25, 2009
this is how most naija politicians think , especially if you are from the north. Their allocations, bribes, perks , allowances, and take homes are taking a hit, and MEND has been instrumental in helping that decline. So its better to do away with 20 million people whose source of wealth sustains the rest of the country- with politicians taking 80% of the income than to let 100 million die of hunger. We are Nigeria because oil is flowing from Niger Delta. We will all die if MEND stops oil money from reaching northerners- nay Nigeria
on point
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by preselect(m): 5:21am On May 26, 2009
the civil war was a mistake. any form of violence between two unegual foes is a fatal error. infact it is foolhardiness to undertake such a mission. the smartest people in nigeria? the yorubas. in the midst of the abiola crisis and apparent yoruba feelings of being hard done by, they resorted to mature means of fighting for their ''right''. they used every available peacful means. also they had some luck, abacha died and the rest of the country felt for them and gave them the presidency.

ijaws can fight this battle without violence and in so doing will earn the full support of the rest of the country. but with violence, they look like thugs. just a pity. i will never support any violent struggle for material wealth.

in the meantime, i wish them luck.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by SapeleGuy: 8:04pm On May 26, 2009
pres-elect:
the civil war was a mistake. any form of violence between two unegual foes is a fatal error. infact it is foolhardiness to undertake such a mission. the smartest people in nigeria? the yorubas. in the midst of the abiola crisis and apparent yoruba feelings of being hard done by, they resorted to mature means of fighting for their ''right''. they used every available peacful means. also they had some luck, abacha died and the rest of the country felt for them and gave them the presidency.

ijaws can fight this battle without violence and in so doing will earn the full support of the rest of the country. but with violence, they look like thugs. just a pity. i will never support any violent struggle for material wealth.

in the meantime, i wish them luck.
Most battles are unequal. Think USA v Afghanistan / Iraq, USA v Vietnam even to biblical times David v Goliath. Where they are equal they tend not to fight think USA v USSR.
Those who do not protest are either contented with the status quo or afraid don catch dem.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by LeMoor(m): 8:10pm On May 26, 2009
What kind of imbeciles are running that country? Apart from his flawed logic, his Arithmetic is amazing.
Assuming Nigeria actually had 100million pple, he is advocating killing 20million pple? A whopping 1/5th of the population?
shocked shocked shocked shocked

AMAZING!!!! And his apology was accepted? statements like that in other places would ensure he doesnt return to that seat,
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by ono(m): 9:15pm On May 26, 2009
No. They will rather accept his useless apologies. They said we're in a Democracy - everyone is entitled to his own opinion. Can you imagine a Senator saying such things?
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by asha80(m): 9:22pm On May 26, 2009
only in nigeria democracy that a rep.can make that sort of statement and get away with an 'apology'.so much for free speech and tolerance.
do that in a saner country and see whether your political career will not be damagrd for life.useless country.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by Beaf: 4:45pm On Sep 01, 2009
adconline:
this is how most naija politicians think , especially if you are from the north. Their allocations, bribes, perks , allowances, and take homes are taking a hit, and MEND has been instrumental in helping that decline. So its better to do away with 20 million people whose source of wealth sustains the rest of the country- with politicians taking 80% of the income than to let 100 million die of hunger. We are Nigeria because oil is flowing from Niger Delta. We will all die if MEND stops oil money from reaching northerners- nay Nigeria
Even the Jewish holocaust that saw the loss of 3 million souls was nothing like what this beast is suggesting, but thats our govt for you.
Our leaders can conceive of wiping out the whole of the ND just to get the oil. Is "one Nigeria" not just a convenience of benefit to thieves only?
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by SkySpirit(m): 11:04am On Feb 14, 2012
Beaf:
Even the Jewish holocaust that saw the loss of 3 million souls was nothing like what this beast is suggesting, but thats our govt for you.
Our leaders can conceive of wiping out the whole of the ND just to get the oil. Is "one Nigeria" not just a convenience of benefit to thieves only?
Now that the tables ve turned, hope this fool's logic (Na Allah) can be applied in the north where Boko Haram reigns supreme!
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by emekachimek: 4:45pm On Dec 03, 2015
Those are the statements you get when you vote illiterates who graduate from babysitting to becoming your lawmakers
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by BiafranPrince: 5:19pm On Dec 03, 2015
Batubo:
Hon. Bala Ibn Na’Allah from Kebbi State argued that "nothing was wrong in sacrificing 20 million people to protect over 150 million people."
A statement by a member of the Nigerian National Assembly"   said this morning

we can do away with 20 million Niger deltans' The words of Alhaji Bala N'allah,member of the house of reps. with regards to the attack by the JTF on the Nigerdelta region.
Wow, mehn this is sickening.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by DebateNigeria: 6:16pm On Dec 03, 2015
emekachimek:
Those are the statements you get when you vote illiterates who graduate from babysitting to becoming your lawmakers
Is he not the senate leader today?
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by Nobody: 6:55pm On Dec 03, 2015
Is this the kinda Nigeria we want. One Nigeria my foot. Divide this country.
Re: House Of Reps: 20 Million Niger Delta Citizens Should Be Allowed To Die by emekachimek: 9:54am On Dec 04, 2015
DebateNigeria:
Is he not the senate leader today?
Selfish, Clueless, shameless illiterate senate
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