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AishyWemsy:
We believe Jesus (alay salam) in our holy book, there is a whole chapter for Anabi Isa (Jesus) and his mum (Maryam). Angola is a christian country which has banned Islam and any form of its practice. Am sure u don't know that. There are a lot Josephs and Johns in Saudi. Though public churches are not allowed. Which is normal, because it is our most sacred land and it can be compared to Vatican, And why did American government find ur recent hero's comment disqualifying if he was so right. And u guys said CNN is our friend now, this made me laff in Swahili. Google is is ur friend, get ur facts straight before complaining. Check this site out http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/10/politifact-most-muslim-countries-allow-churches-synagogues/

Action is louder than altaqiyya. Recently, saudi arabia banned all their citizens from giving their kids christian or western names but they want the entire world to be answering mohammed, abdulazeez, usman, aisha, zainab and other arab\islamic names. I am surprised that you can sanction arab cultural supremacy whose modus operandi is a quasi-religion now jokingly called 'the religion of peace'. The same islam that spread by military invasion and subjugation of other cultures and replacing same with arab culture. Ask the indo-pakistans if you are confused and ignorant of these facts.

Since you choose to be wilfully ignorant, muslims pray in the vatican almost on a yearly basis and quran is also read in the vatican, though i completely disagree with this 'tolerance' by the catholic church. Can the bible be openly read in saudi arabia? No. Can a christian openly pray in saudi arabia? No. Have muslims condemn saudi arabia for oppressing religious minorities? No. Are shia muslims oppressed in saudi arabia? Yes.

So your moral equivalence of comparing saudi and vatican is a standard muslim response to protect saudi atrocities against non-muslims, the shia and the ahmadiyyas. Can saudi arabian govt condemn Donald Trump? No. Why? They are guity of the same.

Muslims\arab cannot dictate what they feel is favourable to them only to the entire world. The world is fully aware of islamic history and tyranny, the old othoman empire is long gone and cannot revive.

gimakon:
AishyWemsy, don't get offended, I want to ask you something.

If Islam is really a peaceful religion, do you think a country like China which is business minded, will kick them out? Let's be real here, middle east, is the main headquarter of islam, but the same people are dreaded in places like China, Macau, india and the other parts. Despite the money, people are beginning to avoid anything islam. I'm even surprise a whole Angola, that's as peaceful as ridiculed islam and demolished their mosques.

Now the second question I want to ask you is this, suppose your religion is peaceful, would the world reject you? The answer is No

There is nothing like peace in Islam. Because in terms of religion, politics etc which is the main thing holding a nation today, when they give islam a chance, they bring in harsh laws. Take lives of people and instill fear in the hearts of people.

No one wants to live in fear where you cannot say what you want,this is the reason why many of you cannot leave islam. But I go marry u take u far away so this people won't come looking for you

Don't mind me. But your religion.... needs to be looked into.

Dude u should join basket mouth group cos u r so damn funny. Islam is not accepted in China? The world reject us? First of all majority of Chinese. Are atheist. Of all Those that practice religions, Buddhist are the most. And Currently ---[10] Presently, the Party formally and institutionally recognises five religions in China: Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, Protestantism, and Catholicism (though despite historic links, the Party enforces a separation of the Chinese Catholic Church from the Roman Catholic Church).[11] In recent years there have been projects of giving a more institutional recognition to Confucianism and the Chinese folk religion.[12][13]

Demographically, the largest group of religious traditions is popular religion, or folk religion, which overlaps with Taoism, Buddhism, and Confucianism but includes further elements.------- that was culled from Wikipedia, u can look it up

Do u know how many countries are in middle. East, do u know most countries there are Muslims dominated

Coming to our home, do u know Islam is the most practiced religion in Africa?

Would have accepted to marry you dear Gimakon, but I don't like people who argue and fight blindly. Peace unto u

HaneefahRN:
what applies to that tiny city applies to that Country. If a city can reserve the right to just one religion, then a Country made up of many tiny Cities can also av that right. Saudi unlike US is not a secular Country, US has no religion. Anyone going to Saudi already knows there is no church there, It's an open secret, so why not go to a secular nation or predominantly Christian nations?
Besides Saudi isn't the only Muslim nation, why not talk abt the Muslim nations housing churches and even synagogues?

The US has a religion but not an officially sanctined religion. There is a separation of the church and state. When the american bill of right was written, the american founding father had the church and the state at heart because islam was not in american then. They dont want the church to interfer in governance. Religion is to be made private. Muslims, in their cunny way, are also using the same religious freedom, in america and europe, to their advantage but are persecuting non-muslims in their territories.

As at now most americans profess christianity and religion goes a long way in american politics. And with the current islamic terror worldwide, an average american has no trust in a muslim. In fact an open muslim can never be elected a governor or president in the US becuase american ideology is a complete opposite of islamic ideology. Oil and water are no good mixture.

On emphasizing on saudi arabia, this is because it is the cradle and the headquater of islam worldwide. Islamic political ideologies are designed and saudi arabia.

I want to ask you, why do millions of muslims want to move to the US instead of saudi arabia, iran, afghanistan or sudan?

true2god:
Action is louder than altaqiyya. Recently, saudi arabia banned all their citizens from giving their kids christian or western names but they want the entire world to be answering mohammed, abdulazeez, usman, aisha, zainab and other arab\islamic names. I am surprised that you can sanction arab cultural supremacy whose modus operandi is a quasi-religion now jokingly called 'the religion of peace'. The same islam that spread by military invasion and subjugation of other cultures and replacing same with arab culture. Ask the indo-pakistans if you are confused and ignorant of these facts.

Since you choose to be wilfully ignorant, muslims pray in the vatican almost on a yearly basis and quran is also read in the vatican, though i completely disagree with this 'tolerance' by the catholic church. Can the bible be openly read in saudi arabia? No. Can a christian openly pray in saudi arabia? No. Have muslims condemn saudi arabia for oppressing religious minorities? No. Are shia muslims oppressed in saudi arabia? Yes.

So your moral equivalence of comparing saudi and vatican is a standard muslim response to protect saudi atrocities against non-muslims, the shia and the ahmadiyyas. Can saudi arabian govt condemn Donald Trump? No. Why? They are guity of the same.

Muslims\arab cannot dictate what they feel is favourable to them only to the entire world. The world is fully aware of islamic history and tyranny, the old othoman empire is long gone and cannot revive.

Willfully ignorant? They say if u r right, u don't have to fight (talking to both of us) See hypocrites everywhere o, at least u accept there are non Muslims in Saudi, because even Muslim here in Nigeria give their children Muslim names so I guess u must be talking about non muslims,and ur claim is wrong. Islam is here to stay. Read between the line true2god and check the link, there u will see the response given to someone like u.

HaneefahRN:
what applies to that tiny city applies to that Country. If a city can reserve the right to just one religion, then a Country made up of many tiny Cities can also av that right. Saudi unlike US is not a secular Country, US has no religion. Anyone going to Saudi already knows there is no church there, It's an open secret, so why not go to a secular nation or predominantly Christian nations?
Besides Saudi isn't the only Muslim nation, why not talk abt the Muslim nations housing churches and even synagogues?

Can you see your double standards here? If saudi can decide to restrict non muslims what stops any other country in the world to restrict people on the basis of their religion? Or are you saying America does not have the right to declare itself a christian nation(since the pioneers were puritan christians) and ban all mosques in the country.

true2god:
The US has a religion but not an officially sanctined religion. There is a separation of the church and state. When the american bill of right was written, the american founding father had the church and the state at heart because islam was not in american then. They dont want the church to interfer in governance. Religion is to be made private. Muslims, in their cunny way, are also using the same religious freedom, in america and europe, to their advantage but are persecuting non-muslims in their territories.

As at now most americans profess christianity and religion goes a long way in american politics. And with the current islamic terror worldwide, an average american has no trust in a muslim. In fact an open muslim can never be elected a governor or president in the US becuase american ideology is a complete opposite of islamic ideology. Oil and water are no good mixture.

On emphasizing on saudi arabia, this is because it is the cradle and the headquater of islam worldwide. Islamic political ideologies are designed and saudi arabia.

I want to ask you, why do millions of muslims want to move to the US instead of saudi arabia, iran, afghanistan or sudan?

let me ask you Is America a christian country? Everybody from all works of life wants to be in the US, it has nothing to do with Religion, another question, would u accept Israel, Angola and other stark christains countries' visa over America's visa? Mind u we are not fighting because America is our heaven(so unlike u, personalising it) we are just telling Trump and u his followers there is no cause for the hatred

true2god:
The US has a religion but not an officially sanctined religion. There is a separation of the church and state. When the american bill of right was written, the american founding father had the church and the state at heart because islam was not in american then. They dont want the church to interfer in governance. Religion is to be made private. Muslims, in their cunny way, are also using the same religious freedom, in america and europe, to their advantage but are persecuting non-muslims in their territories.

As at now most americans profess christianity and religion goes a long way in american politics. And with the current islamic terror worldwide, an average american has no trust in a muslim. In fact an open muslim can never be elected a governor or president in the US becuase american ideology is a complete opposite of islamic ideology. Oil and water are no good mixture.

On emphasizing on saudi arabia, this is because it is the cradle and the headquater of islam worldwide. Islamic political ideologies are designed and saudi arabia.

I want to ask you, why do millions of muslims want to move to the US instead of saudi arabia, iran, afghanistan or sudan?

Of course US has, they are mostly free-thinkers and some Christians. It still doesn't stop it from being a secular Country.
U've answered ur question, Saudi is the cradle of Islam and is yet to let go of it. It's an open secret. And I'm not claiming Saudi is an holier than thou Country, it's leaders av a lot up their sleeves, and the politics being played by them and the West is there.
The above mentioned aren't the only Muslim nations, remember? UAE, Qatar, Oman, Turkey, etc are all Muslim nations. U talk as if Muslims line up to enter America, how many Muslims are actually in immigrants into America? The ones who are, are probably seeking greener pastures like any other human being and those displaced by war engineered by that same US. The US u want to claim is a Christian Country have been involved in so many atrocities. Do you know what happened in Iraq?

AishyWemsy:
We believe Jesus (alay salam) in our holy book, there is a whole chapter for Anabi Isa (Jesus) and his mum (Maryam). Angola is a christian country which has banned Islam and any form of its practice. Am sure u don't know that. There are a lot Josephs and Johns in Saudi. Though public churches are not allowed. Which is normal, because it is our most sacred land and it can be compared to Vatican, And why did American government find ur recent hero's comment disqualifying if he was so right. And u guys said CNN is our friend now, this made me laff in Swahili. Google is is ur friend, get ur facts straight before complaining. Check this site out http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/10/politifact-most-muslim-countries-allow-churches-synagogues/

It appears that you did not understand my question hence your none answer attempt at addressing it.
The issue is not whether what Trump said is offensive, of course it is, and we rightly join you in challenging him and condemning him for being a bigot, should you not also add your voice in challenging the inhumane practices of muslim majority countries like Saudi Arabia that use islam and the sharia to deny them of their right to worship freely?

true2god:
The US has a religion but not an officially sanctined religion. There is a separation of the church and state. When the american bill of right was written, the american founding father had the church and the state at heart because islam was not in american then. They dont want the church to interfer in governance. Religion is to be made private. Muslims, in their cunny way, are also using the same religious freedom, in america and europe, to their advantage but are persecuting non-muslims in their territories.

As at now most americans profess christianity and religion goes a long way in american politics. And with the current islamic terror worldwide, an average american has no trust in a muslim. In fact an open muslim can never be elected a governor or president in the US becuase american ideology is a complete opposite of islamic ideology. Oil and water are no good mixture.

On emphasizing on saudi arabia, this is because it is the cradle and the headquater of islam worldwide. Islamic political ideologies are designed and saudi arabia.

I want to ask you, why do millions of muslims want to move to the US instead of saudi arabia, iran, afghanistan or sudan?

Islam has been in the US before that nonsense was written

This brought tears, with the likes

AishyWemsy:
Dude u should join basket mouth group cos u r so damn funny. Islam is not accepted in China? The world reject us? First of all majority of Chinese. Are atheist. Of all Those that practice religions, Buddhist are the most. And Currently ---[10] Presently, the Party formally and institutionally recognises five religions in China: Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, Protestantism, and Catholicism (though despite historic links, the Party enforces a separation of the Chinese Catholic Church from the Roman Catholic Church).[11] In recent years there have been projects of giving a more institutional recognition to Confucianism and the Chinese folk religion.[12][13]

Demographically, the largest group of religious traditions is popular religion, or folk religion, which overlaps with Taoism, Buddhism, and Confucianism but includes further elements.------- that was culled from Wikipedia, u can look it up

Do u know how many countries are in middle. East, do u know most countries there are Muslims dominated

Coming to our home, do u know Islam is the most practiced religion in Africa?

Would have accepted to marry you dear Gimakon, but I don't like people who argue and fight blindly. Peace unto u

Bolded above is a lie christianity is the most practised religion in africa and it also has the highest growth rate.

http://pulse.ng/religion/here-they-are-top-10-most-popular-religions-in-africa-id3048509.html

AishyWemsy:
Dude u should join basket mouth group cos u r so damn funny. Islam is not accepted in China? The world reject us? First of all majority of Chinese. Are atheist. Of all Those that practice religions, Buddhist are the most. And Currently ---[10] Presently, the Party formally and institutionally recognises five religions in China: Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, Protestantism, and Catholicism (though despite historic links, the Party enforces a separation of the Chinese Catholic Church from the Roman Catholic Church).[11] In recent years there have been projects of giving a more institutional recognition to Confucianism and the Chinese folk religion.[12][13]

Demographically, the largest group of religious traditions is popular religion, or folk religion, which overlaps with Taoism, Buddhism, and Confucianism but includes further elements.------- that was culled from Wikipedia, u can look it up

Do u know how many countries are in middle. East, do u know most countries there are Muslims dominated

Coming to our home, do u know Islam is the most practiced religion in Africa?

Would have accepted to marry you dear Gimakon, but I don't like people who argue and fight blindly. Peace unto u

And unto u too, but u fine sha. Your religion cause am

AishyWemsy:
Willfully ignorant? They say if u r right, u don't have to fight (talking to both of us) See hypocrites everywhere o, at least u accept there are non Muslims in Saudi, because even Muslim here in Nigeria give their children Muslim names so I guess u must be talking about non muslims,and ur claim is wrong. Islam is here to stay. Read between the line true2god and check the link, there u will see the response given to someone like u.

Are non-muslims allowed to pray openly in saudi arabia? Are Jews allowed in saudi arabia without being killed? Can saudi arabia give me a resident visa if my passport reads a christian name?

Get your fact right, no single non-muslim is allowed in mecca and medina and almost all non-muslims in saudi arabia are white expatriate oil workers and american marines.

Islam is the elephant in the house, it must be tolerated with caution but not loved.

AishyWemsy:
This brought tears, with the likes

Whilst you are in tears kindly reflect on your islamic faith and ask yourself if the religion is truly of God why does it inspire so much hate and violence in it's true believers right from the time of your prophet to this very date.

Annunaki:
Can you see your double standards here? If saudi can decide to restrict non muslims what stops any other country in the world to restrict people on the basis of their religion? Or are you saying America does not have the right to declare itself a christian nation(since the pioneers were puritan christians) and ban all mosques in the country.

Lolz, of course they can decide to, only it wld be a fallacy becos Christianity doesn't bind them.
Right from the beginnings of America, I'm sure many of u Christians will oppose many of their actions but still call it a Christian nation. America was founded by who? Christopher Columbus, I don't know if he was a Christian, but read about how he conquered the land, killing thousands of the original habitants, I'm sure that's Christian -like, the slave trade was also Christain-like, the freedom of religion which many 'tolerant' Christian conservatives spoke against was also Christian- like. All the wars and invasions of other lands to be the world powered are all Christian-like. Yes, it is a Christian nation, and they can stop Muslims from coming in

Annunaki:
Can you see your double standards here? If saudi can decide to restrict non muslims what stops any other country in the world to restrict people on the basis of their religion? Or are you saying America does not have the right to declare itself a christian nation(since the pioneers were puritan christians) and ban all mosques in the country.

Native Americans own America

It's very good to stand for something. I commend you for standing for your belief. The problem however is not peculiar to Islam only. Christians are even worse. I fully support Trump if he will generalize his stand on all religions because religion has been hijacked by murderers who copy Moses and Prophet Samuel to use God to excuse their genocidal tendencies. Our main problem is the inability to accept that the world is dynamic. Most of what the religions teach are overdue for change. When asked why he doesn't wage war on unbelievers the Prophet's companion, Ibn Umar, answered, "we did Jihad during the life time of Allah's Apostle when Islam has a few followers but when Muslims increased and there was no more afflictions or oppressions Jihad has to stop." Umar suggested flexibility and consideration of dynamics of the society as time passes. All religions need to think this way and align with time changes. I'm not a Muslim but I've taken my time to study the religion and I know it's peaceful nature. But when a group of people hide under it to commit murder, something has to be done.

daretodiffer:
Islam has been in the US before that nonsense was written

The american bill of right and the first amendment is far better, humane and moral than your discriminatory sharia law that openly make provisions for the subjugation of non-muslims under islamic rule. Tell me where islam was before american passgage of the first amendment.
The first encounter the US had with muslims\islam was under Thomas Jefferson when arab muslim pirates were attacking american shippings (in the mediteranean), took american prisoners and demanded for ransom, just because they (the americans) were kafir.

Annunaki:
Whilst you are in tears kindly reflect on your islamic faith and ask yourself if the religion is truly of God why does it inspire so much hate and violence in it's true believers right from the time of your prophet to this very date.

get over urself Annunaki. But this brought a beautiful smile, check it out. The most likes have ever seen on nairaland on an insightful post is around 500 post, this post had almost 500, check the screen shot below

quickly:
Why r u crying for Arab religion. Pl are just fed up of Muslims killing in the name.of religion

and look at the.middle east the home of islam.

u dare not build a church in Saudi Arabia it will.be burnt down.

The missing chibok girls people's daughters are been raps and killing be cos some fool was following koran


go to senate some idiots want to marry 9 yes girl because of this.

so stop deceiving used that islam is peace. Action speak louder than words

In whose name did muhammed and his followers killed and raped people? Was it not for Islam? Or is she saying muhammed was not a Muslim?

true2god:
The american bill of right and the first amendment is far better, humane and moral than your discriminatory sharia law that openly make provisions for the subjugation of non-muslims under islamic rule. Tell me where islam was before american passgage of the first amendment.
The first encounter the US had with muslims\islam was under Thomas Jefferson when arab muslim pirates were attacking american shippings (in the mediteranean), took american prisoners and demanded for ransom, just because they (the americans) were kafir.

Ode!

White Americans are historically British/Irish.

And Britain have had dealings with the Islamic world before they set foot on Africa

Some of the slaves they captured were free born Muslims. Kunta Kinte is likely to have been a Muslim too. Also, you have forgotten about the power of trade

These grabs

AishyWemsy:
Dude u should join basket mouth group cos u r so damn funny. Islam is not accepted in China? The world reject us? First of all majority of Chinese. Are atheist. Of all Those that practice religions, Buddhist are the most. And Currently ---[10] Presently, the Party formally and institutionally recognises five religions in China: Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, Protestantism, and Catholicism (though despite historic links, the Party enforces a separation of the Chinese Catholic Church from the Roman Catholic Church).[11] In recent years there have been projects of giving a more institutional recognition to Confucianism and the Chinese folk religion.[12][13]

Demographically, the largest group of religious traditions is popular religion, or folk religion, which overlaps with Taoism, Buddhism, and Confucianism but includes further elements.------- that was culled from Wikipedia, u can look it up

Do u know how many countries are in middle. East, do u know most countries there are Muslims dominated

Coming to our home, do u know Islam is the most practiced religion in Africa?

Would have accepted to marry you dear Gimakon, but I don't like people who argue and fight blindly. Peace unto u

Not being a wide mouthed person, but islam has been banned in China for real. Read here

http://shoebat.com/2015/06/30/china-bans-islam-and-says-it-does-not-give-a-darn-to-all-the-cry-babies-who-complain/

And here http://www.blindspotreport.com/china-declares-all-out-war-on-islam/

And islam isn't the most practiced in Africa ,its Christianity. That's why your imams are jealous.

As we speak. I know of 4 Hausa girls on shiloh! They with their boyfriends there in church, they don't even bear the likes of hassana,Aisha, Nosebah,and Fatimah, they all take English names now and they live with us as Christians and are very happy, they speak ibo and we reply them too like no worries.
Islam doesn't give you space like christianity,and there is no growth in islam,dont be deceived.

AishyWemsy:
What are they questions Qualer, I have answered every question asked here, if u are not blindfolded with ur ready made hatred. Read between the lines. Like I said America is not your Land, far from. And Qualer am not here to fight, watch it pls. You said u studied Quran, did u study ur bible too? Sincerely? If I respond the way people are dishing it, it won't be nice. I fully understand sharia law and it's importance to curb vices. U called me a moderate Muslim, may be u are an extreme christian then. I heard a news few days back that a court in Ondo state sentenced 3 people to 2 years Imprisonment because they stole a she-goat. It sounded so unfair and brutal, but they expect others to learn from it. These are ordinary. worldly justice. Islam preaches peace. Terrorists are not Muslims. This is what we are saying

if you say those who kill in the name of Islam are not Muslims, you are also saying 'prophet' muhammed was not a Muslim!

AishyWemsy:
We believe Jesus (alay salam) in our holy book, there is a whole chapter for Anabi Isa (Jesus) and his mum (Maryam). Angola is a christian country which has banned Islam and any form of its practice. Am sure u don't know that. There are a lot Josephs and Johns in Saudi. Though public churches are not allowed. Which is normal, because it is our most sacred land and it can be compared to Vatican, And why did American government find ur recent hero's comment disqualifying if he was so right. And u guys said CNN is our friend now, this made me laff in Swahili. Google is is ur friend, get ur facts straight before complaining. Check this site out http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/10/politifact-most-muslim-countries-allow-churches-synagogues/

It appears that you did not understand my question hence your none answer attempt at addressing it.
The issue is not whether what Trump said is offensive, of course it is, and we rightly join you in challenging him and condemning him for being a bigot, should you not also add your voice in challenging the inhumane practices of muslim majority countries like Saudi Arabia that use islam and the sharia to deny them of their right to worship freely?

adullam210:
In whose name did muhammed and his followers killed and raped people? Was it not for Islam? Or is she saying muhammed was not a Muslim?

go and read from the beginning if u don't get what we are saying here. Islam is a religion of peace, Muslims are peaceful, Terrorists are not Muslim. I bet if u became an actor u can interpret any role, is just like that

oglalasioux:
It's very good to stand for something. I commend you for standing for your belief. The problem however is not peculiar to Islam only. Christians are even worse. I fully support Trump if he will generalize his stand on all religions because religion has been hijacked by murderers who copy Moses and Prophet Samuel to use God to excuse their genocidal tendencies. Our main problem is the inability to accept that the world is dynamic. Most of what the religions teach are overdue for change. When asked why he doesn't wage war on unbelievers the Prophet's companion, Ibn Umar, answered, "we did Jihad during the life time of Allah's Apostle when Islam has a few followers but when Muslims increased and there was no more afflictions or oppressions Jihad has to stop." Umar suggested flexibility and consideration of dynamics of the society as time passes. All religions need to think this way and align with time changes. I'm not a Muslim but I've taken my time to study the religion and I know it's peaceful nature. But when a group of people hide under it to commit murder, something has to be done.

Yesterday the German government accused the saudi governmnet of sponsoring terrorism and extremism in Germany. Islamic jihad is an eternal doctrine in islam because all the 5 schools of islamic laws and jurisprudence approved of it as a means of bringing kafir to allahh.

Dont water-down islamic aggression.

AishyWemsy:
go and read from the beginning if u don't get what we are saying here. Islam is a religion of peace, Muslims are peaceful, Terrorists are not Muslim. I bet if u became an actor u can interpret any role, is just like that

Yesterday the German government
accused the saudi governmnet of
sponsoring terrorism and extremism in
Germany. Islamic jihad is an eternal
doctrine in islam because all the 5 schools
of islamic laws and jurisprudence approved of it as a means of bringing
kafir to allahh.
Dont water-down islamic aggression.

AishyWemsy:
These grabs

It really amuses me when muslims accuse anybody of being hypocrites when the islam they profess is the standard definition of hypocrisy and intolerance.

HaneefahRN:
what applies to that tiny city applies to that Country. If a city can reserve the right to just one religion, then a Country made up of many tiny Cities can also av that right. Saudi unlike US is not a secular Country, US has no religion. Anyone going to Saudi already knows there is no church there, It's an open secret, so why not go to a secular nation or predominantly Christian nations?
Besides Saudi isn't the only Muslim nation, why not talk abt the Muslim nations housing churches and even synagogues?

yes, us is a secular state, you forget it is most importantly a state where everyone is free to practise their religion. But Islam does not give freedom to people to practice their religion. Give reasons why such religion should be allowed in a free society.

adullam210:
if you say those who kill in the name of Islam are not Muslims, you are also saying 'prophet' muhammed was not a Muslim!

oglalasioux:
It's very good to stand for something. I commend you for standing for your belief. The problem however is not peculiar to Islam only. Christians are even worse. I fully support Trump if he will generalize his stand on all religions because religion has been hijacked by murderers who copy Moses and Prophet Samuel to use God to excuse their genocidal tendencies. Our main problem is the inability to accept that the world is dynamic. Most of what the religions teach are overdue for change. When asked why he doesn't wage war on unbelievers the Prophet's companion, Ibn Umar, answered, "we did Jihad during the life time of Allah's Apostle when Islam has a few followers but when Muslims increased and there was no more afflictions or oppressions Jihad has to stop." Umar suggested flexibility and consideration of dynamics of the society as time passes. All religions need to think this way and align with time changes. I'm not a Muslim but I've taken my time to study the religion and I know it's peaceful nature. But when a group of people hide under it to commit murder, something has to be done.

adullam210:
if you say those who kill in the name of Islam are not Muslims, you are also saying 'prophet' muhammed was not a Muslim!

I don't support some of his points but he made sense. Don't expect her to do ur researches for u, do ur research and make ur own deductions, I know u're hate-filled and ignorance filled already, no need to waste time on u. Study what we call history of the religions.
Christians wld always talk like their religion was merely spread by being nice and turning the left cheek when slapped. Knowing the history of those ages will help shape ur view

adullam210:
yes, us is a secular state, you forget it is most importantly a state where everyone is free to practise their religion. But Islam does not give freedom to people to practice their religion. Give reasons why such religion should be allowed in a free society.

Pls tell me a verse of the bible where it is encouraged for pple to practice any religion they wish. Most Christians wld prefer to av Christian only states, 'yet they are tolerant', but becos they don't av this they resort to black naming Islam. Were the Christians happy when the constitution of US was allowed to accommodate freedom of religion?