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Qualer:
FIVE AWKWARD QUESTIONS ABOUT ISLAM

There are a number of awkward questions about Islam that desperately need to be asked and more importantly answered and here I'm going to ask just five of them.

1. Many Muslims claim to be opposed to the barbaric acts of terror committed by jihadists in the name of Islam. Additionally, liberals and leftists will assert that most Muslims are opposed to Islamic State. However, there's a glaring contradiction, an elephant in the room these apologists are desperate to avoid.

In Islam Muhammad is regarded as "the ideal man, the perfect model of conduct." This prophet and his army of devout Muslims waged jihad against infidels and he personally spread Islam by the sword. He and his band of brigands did not distort, twist or misunderstand Islam as they waged war against Jewish tribes in the Middle East, beheading their enemies and raping their women. So let's ask our first uncomfortable question:

To those Muslims who say violence is against Islam: If ISIS truly is "nothing to do with Islam" then is Muhammad also unIslamic and do you condemn and reject his violent "perfect example"?
Liberals and leftists can make as many excuses for jihad as they like but the fact will remain: The mujahideen of ISIS are emulating the "perfect example" set by Muhammad described in the holy texts of Islam, the Sunnah and hadith, and are also obeying the numerous commands in the Quran to wage war on infidels until the world belongs solely to Allah.

How can Muslims who revere the "perfect example" of Muhammad, a warlord who beheaded people, who raped infidel women, who tortured people, who had an old woman torn apart and who claimed: "I have been made victorious by terror" possibly oppose violence in the name of Islam?

History shows Islam has a 1400-year history of non-stop violent jihad against unbelievers. Are we really to believe all of those Muslims who waged jihad over the centuries misunderstood and distorted peaceful Islam including the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, and his army of mujahideen?

2. The claim that Islamic State is unIslamic doesn't stand up to further scrutiny at all.
Duplicitous self-serving Western politicians who imported Islam into their nations and their lickspittle lackeys in the mainstream media go to great lengths to focus on ISIS as if they are the only Muslims committing violence in the name of Islam. Not so. In Saudi Arabia, beheadings are a legal punishment and bloggers who are critical of Islam are flogged. Rape victims are criminalized and also flogged. Poets are sentenced to death for blasphemy and apostasy. Unbelievers - the lowest of the low, literally filth in Islam - are forbidden to enter the holiest places in Islam, Mecca and Medina.

All of these harsh punishments are enshrined in the Islamic legal system the Sharia. ISIS implement Sharia in the same way as the Saudis.
This begs a second uncomfortable question:

Do the Saudis twist, distort and misunderstand Islam as Islamic State is accused of doing?
They're committing the same barbaric horrors as ISIS yet somehow, Saudi Arabia is regarded by the West as an ally and even has a seat on the United Nations Human Rights Council. But nobody is accusing Saudi Arabia of distorting and perverting Islam. Probably because if they did they'd be regarded as unhinged.

3. Another narrative deployed to excuse terrorism committed by Muslims in the name of Islam is that violent jihad is a response to acts committed by the West. Acts such as the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and now, bombing ISIS in Syria.
In fact, violent jihad against infidels began in 622 when Muhammad the prophet of Islam started it. Since then, Muslims have continued to spread Islam by the sword. India has faced jihad since 638 and over 80 million Hindus have been killed. Muslims invaded Africa in the seventh century and began raping, killing and enslaving infidel Africans. These savage atrocities are still continuing today, committed by devout jihadists of Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, Al Qaeda and ISIS.

Jihad came to Europe in 710 and Muslim armies conquered Andalucía in 711. It took 800 years of fighting to free Spain from Islamic hegemony.(part of the crusades every muslim keeps referring to without finding out the cause)

Muslims brought violent jihad to Christian Anatolia in 650 and conquered it into Dar al Islam, with the sack of Constantinople in 1453 being particularly brutal. Eastern European countries were also hit by Islamic jihad with Serbia still facing it today having been forced by NATO to surrender its sacred ground of Kosovo to Muslims. The Islamic terror group the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) committed the same barbaric acts as ISIS yet Britain, The United States and The European Union all backed the jihadists, with catastrophic consequences. Buddhists have been ethnically cleansed from Afghanistan and are fighting against the jihad in Myanmar. Thailand is blighted by jihad as is Israel. Jews have been hit by jihad from 622 to today. The Zoroastrians have almost been wiped out in Iran and Christians are relentlessly persecuted in the Middle East. Thanks to mass immigration from Islamic states, devout Muslim mujahideen are raping and slaughtering infidels in European and North American cities.

It's odd that a "religion of peace" has such a long, bloody history of warfare against unbelievers from so many faiths. And just why, exactly, are Muslims still slaughtering infidels today as Muhammad and his men did in 622, brutal acts emulated by devout Muslims throughout Islam's history?

Let's have our third uncomfortable question:
If the attacks on USA, France, Britain, Spain, Mali, Nigeria are in return for actions in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria what are the excuses for the jihad that began in the Middle East in 622, jihad against India started in 638, the conquest of Spain, the jihad that transformed Christian Anatolia into Islamic Turkey, the jihad against Serbia started in 1389 and the genocide of an estimated two million Armenians committed by the Turks between 1915 and 1923?

Let's be honest here. None of these acts of jihad had anything to do with the acts of the West and nor do the acts of the West have anything to do with the jihad being waged today. Jihad has everything to do with Islam, just as it always has.

4. After devout Muslims had slaughtered Charlie Hebdo cartoonists and Jewish shoppers in the Paris attacks of January 2015, millions of Muslims around the world took to the streets in protest. Not against the murders of innocent people but against the West's response to it, in particular, the "Je Suis Charlie" defence of free speech and particularly the right to criticize and mock all ideologies including Islam.
This outraged millions of Muslims around the Islamic world just as the infamous cartoons mocking Muhammad published in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten in October 2005 did. Indeed, this video of the London protest was the "road to Damascus" moment for your humble author who was once a liberal to his core. Back then I strongly believed all religions were the same but watching that disturbing video shook me out of my slumber.

This leads to our fourth uncomfortable question:
Why don't millions of outraged Muslims ever take to the streets to protest against acts of violent jihad and the slaughter of innocent infidels?
I mean, if the vast majority of Muslims are opposed to violence committed by mujahideen in the name of Islam where the heck are the millions of outraged Muslims protesting against ISIS as they did against cartoons of the murdering, raping, terrorist Muhammad and the Charlie Hebdo defence of the right to free speech?

5. Finally, let me ask:
Why is it only Muslims commit terror attacks on civilians in reprisals for offending Islam or for attacks on Islamic states?
Are they the only people who have grievances? Where are terrorist attacks committed by Christians in response to persecution across Africa and the Middle East? Where are the revenge attacks from British, Swedish, Germans and Norwegians for the gang-rapes of their women and girls by Muslim males? Where are the Buddhists blowing up Muslim civilians in response to the jihad waged against them? Same applies to Hindus and Sikhs. And what about angry Serbs shooting up restaurants in London or Berlin in response to the criminal bombing of their country by NATO? Where are Greek-Cypriot terrorists slaughtering Turkish citizens because of Turkey's illegal occupation of Cyprus? They never happen. So why is it only Muslims committing these atrocities year in, year out, month in, month out on every continent?

That's five awkward questions about the 'religion of peace'. I challenge anyone on the Left, any Muslim, any liberal defender of multiculturalism to answer them. Without resorting to abuse, name calling, insults or violence.

Christopher J. Green

HaneefahRN:
Mr are u still talking?
Ur posts reeks of ignorance though, non-muslims are allowed into Saudi but are not allow to publicly practise their religion, why? Becos Saudi is not a secular Country, it's a Muslim nation, they av their reasons for that. Like the Vatican city where there are no mosques, they are also made up of small cities where there are no churches. Every immigrant into Saudi knows this, it's an open secret, so why crying? Other Muslim nations allow non-muslims and even av churches, so there is no basis here, or are u interested in living in Saudi ni? America is a secular country, if they decide to become a Christian country like many of u 'tolerant Christians' want and destroy the mosques therein and stop Muslims from coming in, no wahala.
About the Ahmaddiyah issue, they do not consider them Muslims not becos they are not violent (lolz), but becos their ideology comes with bid'ah- innovations into the religion wc is considered a sin, their leader had supposedly had a dream abt another prophet called 'Ahmad', who will come or came after Muhammad, or something and had revealed some prayers and actions outside the norms of Islam to him, and he started gathering followers.
It's like the numerous churches and their various doctrines, someone can wake up and say don't let's wear shoes cos probably Jesus didn't (I'm sure he did), or we won't get married cos Jesus didn't, etc.

HaneefahRN:
Oh, Mr I av all the knowledge about Islam. Of course, I no nothing abt it. Islam has both religious and political roots, open secret, many religions av political roots. The shariah is based on the Quran and hadiths of the Prophet -wc must be well researched to ensure their authenticity. It has done well to shape their Society, in Saudi, using stealing as a case study, traders do not bother to close up their shops when going for prayer or going out somtimes, shops where gold and expensive things are displayed, becos they are almost assured no-one wld steal,that's the lvl of trust they av in themselves many of the social vices are'nt common like in secular Countries. Even at that the thing stolen must av enof value to warrant a penalty, not like someone stole maggi and they cut off his hand, proper investigations must be done. I believe b4 any severe penalty can be carried out, some standards must av been used to gauge it, if the person is wanting or not. And the situation of the state must be taken into consideration, for example during the time of Umar (RA), there was a famine and several cases of stealing were overlooked becos they were brought abt by the poor situation. Even the fear of having one's hands cut is enof to make a thief think twice. But here thieves are ruling, even rape and ask pple to rape themselves.

HaneefahRN:
Lolz, Lord resistance army, Tripura, Central African republic, Bruce Hoffman, Eric Rudolph to name a few all used Christianity to back their acts of terrorism.
As regards ur other questions, I won't do ur researches for u, go and do ur own findings.

Annunaki:
Can you be more specific and quote with verses from scripture how they used the teachings of Christ to back their acts of terrorism

AishyWemsy:
We believe Jesus (alay salam) in our holy book, there is a whole chapter for Anabi Isa (Jesus) and his mum (Maryam). Angola is a christian country which has banned Islam and any form of its practice. Am sure u don't know that. There are a lot Josephs and Johns in Saudi. Though public churches are not allowed. Which is normal, because it is our most sacred land and it can be compared to Vatican, And why did American government find ur recent hero's comment disqualifying if he was so right. And u guys said CNN is our friend now, this made me laff in Swahili. Google is is ur friend, get ur facts straight before complaining. Check this site out http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/10/politifact-most-muslim-countries-allow-churches-synagogues/

HaneefahRN:
Man, did u see my last paragraph? Of course the psychos wld always need somethn to justify themselves wt, even the crusaders had somethn to back their acts wt even though some new dawn Christians don't agree. Like someone cld just wake up and say the holy spirit said something on to him, the anti-abortionists, separatists, the ones who blive the old testaments shld not be separated from the new, and wld only use the violent parts rather than the parts that call for peace, etc.
I av obliged u enof, so make use of my last paragraph

Nurad111:
I hope you av come across Exodus 22 vs 20 in the bible?

HaneefahRN:
Lolz, Lord resistance army, Tripura, Central African republic, Bruce Hoffman, Eric Rudolph to name a few all used Christianity to back their acts of terrorism.
As regards ur other questions, I won't do ur researches for u, go and do ur own findings.

Annunaki:
Your analogy does not suffice, we have seen brutal acts of terror committed and instructed by islam's finest example(mohamed) which justifies acts of terror carried out by his true followers. The only way you can draw an analogy is to show us where Jesus instructed or did same. The reality is that 100% of the millions of islamic terrorist in the last 1,400 years were following teachings of mohamed whilst the relatively few 'christians' that committed acts of terror over the centuries were going against the teachings of Jesus.

HaneefahRN:
Mr are u still talking?
Ur posts reeks of ignorance though, non-muslims are allowed into Saudi but are not allow to publicly practise their religion, why? Becos Saudi is not a secular Country, it's a Muslim nation, they av their reasons for that. Like the Vatican city where there are no mosques, they are also made up of small cities where there are no churches. Every immigrant into Saudi knows this, it's an open secret, so why crying? Other Muslim nations allow non-muslims and even av churches, so there is no basis here, or are u interested in living in Saudi ni? America is a secular country, if they decide to become a Christian country like many of u 'tolerant Christians' want and destroy the mosques therein and stop Muslims from coming in, no wahala.
About the Ahmaddiyah issue, they do not consider them Muslims not becos they are not violent (lolz), but becos their ideology comes with bid'ah- innovations into the religion wc is considered a sin, their leader had supposedly had a dream abt another prophet called 'Ahmad', who will come or came after Muhammad, or something and had revealed some prayers and actions outside the norms of Islam to him, and he started gathering followers.
It's like the numerous churches and their various doctrines, someone can wake up and say don't let's wear shoes cos probably Jesus didn't (I'm sure he did), or we won't get married cos Jesus didn't, etc.

HaneefahRN:
Lolz, U try too hard. The well known hadiths as regards how the prophet reacted to insults will be said by me, and they are backed by the Quran.
-The quran verses include
Q3:185- 'You will certainly bear much abuse from the followers of the previous books and the idol-worshippers. And if u are patient and keep ur duty, this is surely a matter of great resolution'
Q7 198-199- 'And if u invite the, to guidance, they hear not, thus sees them looking towards u, yet they see not. Hold fast to forgiveness and enjoin goodness and turn away from the ignorant'
Q2:109- Many of the pple of the Book wish they cld turn u back to disbelief after the truth hath come upon, but forgive and overlook,
Q4:40 -'When u hear Allah's mssgs disbelieved and mocked ar , sit not with them until they enter into other discourse'
And many more
- As regards the Prophet's reaction to insults
- there was a woman who wld always pour dirt, sewage on the Prophet whenever he passes near her house towards the mosque. The prophet always kept quiet without any action. The woman feel ill, and he noticed for some days the woman didn't do her usual duties and called upon some of his companions for them to go and check if anything is wrong with the woman. When the woman saw the Prophet she was scared thinking he was there to retribute her for her actions, he greeted her and said he had come to see her cos he had noticed her absence, the woman was awed by this and accepted Islam.
- A man called Suhail Ibn Amar was a very good orator back then and used his talent in making speeches against the Prophet. He was captured as the battle of Badr and brought before the Prophet. Someone suggested they knock out his teeth, to disable him from speaking well. The Prophet replied
'If I disfigured any of his limbs, God will disfigured mine in retribution'
- Some Jews addressing Muslims wld distort the greeting 'Asalam alaykum ' 'peace be upon u', to as-samu alaykum 'death be upon u'. One said it to the prophet and Aisha retorted back the same words and the Prophet disapproved and said God does not like harsh words.
- The prophet helped an old woman with her load from madinah to a neighbouring town, saying she was going away cos of a Muhammad who was leading the Arms astray from their forefathers. He politely carried her load and bear all the criticisms till the woman moved by his kindness later asked who he was, she was shocked to find out the person she had been running from was the one carrying her load and became a Muslim.
- There were four men who spread a rumor of immorality against Aisha. One of the four men was called 'Mistah'. He used to receive financial assistance from Abu Bakr (Aisha's father) and he swore never to help him again. Quran 24:22 was then revealed.
'let not the possesors of grace and means among u swear against giving to near relatives, poor and those who had flee God's way. Pardon, overlook. Do u not love that God forgives u?'
On hearing this Abu Bakr stopped the oath and asked for God's forgiveness.
Many of these are found in Al-bukhari and other hadith collectors books.
It's funny how we go to any length looking for hadiths tht dampens Islam, most of wc are fabricated or wt weak links, but overlook the numerous good ones, likewise the Quran, they capitalize on the violent ones revealed in times of war and overlook the numerous peaceful and compassionate ones. That is the same thing the psychos do to justify themselves.

Papist:
Small correction here. Most people confuse the Vatican with the Holy See. Do you know for example that the major Church of Rome i.e the Pope's Cathedral of Rome is not St Peters? It is St John Lateran and it is outside the Vatican walls. So if you want to make a fairer comparison then compare Saudi Arabia with the Holy See i.e the Diocese of Rome whose bishop is the pope. And in the Holy See there are dozens of mosques. They even wanted to build a mosque bigger than all the ancient basilicas of Rome, obviously with Saudi funding.

HaneefahRN:
Lolz, Lord resistance army, Tripura, Central African republic, Bruce Hoffman, Eric Rudolph to name a few all used Christianity to back their acts of terrorism.
As regards ur other questions, I won't do ur researches for u, go and do ur own findings.

HaneefahRN:
I'm not going to go back and forth wt u. I had already typed a reply but on 2nd thought, think and blive what u want. Ciao

Qualer:
here is a girl that used to be a muslim in the middle east (where the real muslims are). she explains better:



No mind dem o nigerian muslims say they no islam more than middle eastern muslim.

Is just like an oyinbo claming to speak nigerian language better than the indigene.


I dey tell dem
but dem don nack heard for ground so tey dem brain don jam lock

jh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXGE2eBUdlQ

Annunaki:
Just as I thought, you will run away so as not to embarrass yourself by having your deceit exposed thus exposing islam further.

opey25:
The quraish couldn't extinguish the flame of islam over 1430 years ago. Millions of Donald trump can stop the spread of islam.

quickly:
Even if the flame will.lead u to hell fire. It's good to stop and reevaluate

opey25:
stop and reevaluate what?

AishyWemsy:
Islam is the same from here to anywhere, the doctrine, teaching and the holy book. Not like Oyinbo, They are so incomparable. At the start I love the way you argue, now u ve resulted to insults. U r so pitiable. U can't handle the truth, it was later I realised the thread has been moved to religion section where the bittered Christains live and sleep. At this juncture, we have made our points and nobody ran away. Silence is just the best answer right now.

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Say: Oh you who turn away
I do not worship what you worship,
nor do you worship what I worship.
And I will not worship what you worship,
Nor will you worship what I worship.
Your way is yours, and my way is mine.

Go ahead keep them coming, just know u would be talking to ursef. The above Quranic chapter is my response to anyone that wants to whine more. Peace out

opey25:
The quraish couldn't extinguish the flame of islam over 1430 years ago. Millions of Donald trump can stop the spread of islam.

johnydon22:
Islam is a Religion of peace if you remove Misogyny, Terrorism, Honor killing, Wife stoning, Infidel killings, Extremism, Child mutilation, Anti-human right, Jihad, Shaira, Apostate killing..

But if you, there will be nothing left to call Islam

AishyWemsy:
Just have a deep thought, and think again, if u r just being hateful, following hearsay or U truly and sincerely know what is going on. So many threads about pastor raped, stole, fake prophecies, I don't think any muslim has ever said oooh see the ever holy Christians. But let any thread surfaces about Islam, see bashing, thrash talking. And u said we are violent? So pitiful. Against all odds, imposters, hatred, abuse, insult, Islam is here to stay and it will last forever.

mirabel001:
irony.....islam is a curse 2 d world, if u want peace in dis world ban islam...shikina


It's clear

AishyWemsy:
[s]This post killed it. Thank u Madridguy. Hypocrisy is when you think Muslim are terrorist and see American as an Angel. As at 2014, 1,147 innocent Muslim killed in US drone strikes –

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147

The public record of violent deaths following the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Documented Muslim deaths from violence.

147,431 – 167,206

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/

No one is talking about the Innocent Civilians that lost their lives in NATO airstrikes in Libya and how they turned Libya into War zone.

No one is pointing finger at David Cameron and his partner in Crime, George W. Bush for crime against humanity. Millions of Children are outta school in Iraq, Libya , Syria because of your USELESS FOREIGN POLICY.

MAY THE WRATH OF GOD BE UPON DONALD TRUMP FOR CALLING MUSLIM TERRORIST.


AMERICA WILL NEVER KNOW PEACE UNTIL THEY STOP TERRORIZING THE WHOLE WORLD.[/s]

AishyWemsy:
This thread(Re: 'Muslims To Be Stopped From Entering US'- Donald Trump)brought tears to my eye, not because of what Trump said, but the level of hatred for Islam in this country, to u Christians supporting this and making jokes, I pity u. If by now u still think these terrorists are Muslims, u r mistaken, how could they be Muslims and still be killing their own people, 95 percent of terrorist attacks in this country happened in Muslims dominated states. The Imams, that preached against them have been killed, the mosques burnt. You people fail to realise that Islam is the only religion that stand boldly against atrocities committed around the world, Islam is spreading daily, and it scares them(those people u worship). All these are just to tarnish the Image of Islam and send wrong messages. Can any south western Christians boldly say the Muslims around them are not peaceful? Our southern people in Nigeria are full off rage for Islam and their reason is more political than fair. Don't forget what trump said about Africa and black Americans, some even curse him among u supporting him now. We should be fair. I am a Muslim and I am proud. Islam is nothing but religion of peace. One love