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Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by djdoxxx(op): 10:53am On Dec 13, 2015
aaronson:
I guess that's the group number down on your signature, right?
yeah bro.... An agnostic who is still faintly a christian was the first person that asked to join the group the night it was created....we are the only one on it for now, Hommies, what's uphuh Are you guys scared of politicshuh Let us join this Movement....

I found it funny when someone called me Joseph Stalin here two days ago....We need to separate the nuts from the husks....We don't need unreasonable people to start slowing down our mission, this doesn't mean we won't be coming on here any longer though...We just need a father medium to communicate ideas...
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by menesheh(m): 10:59am On Dec 13, 2015
djdoxxx:
lol....never had an issue with the spam bot on NL since I registered...Dunno why!! You are welcome to the group....The WhatsApp group has been created already... To join , just send me a pm @ 08169552020....One love....@ Ymodulus, johnnydon22, menesheh, Hahn, Dalaman , Goosebaba, and others....
Done
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by djdoxxx(op): 11:03am On Dec 13, 2015
Solidkay:
Well said bro,
i jst had an encounter wit one dumb ass dickhead religious bigot.
lol....there are more atheists on here than I actually thought of!!! Wowww!!
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by menesheh(m): 11:05am On Dec 13, 2015
djdoxxx:
lol....there are more atheists on here than I actually thought of!!! Wowww!!
What are you still waiting to add me then, 08160642576


There was this news i read about Kenyan atheists. I was baffled that Kenya could go that mile.
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by djdoxxx(op): 11:06am On Dec 13, 2015
stephenmorris:
kindly share me the
link of our Facebook page
https://mobile./1468955376694960?tsid=0.42364440276287496&source=typeahead#

Or search for : Politics(Enough is Enough forum)

Do join the WhatsApp train too...
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by djdoxxx(op): 11:09am On Dec 13, 2015
Teempakguy:
I'm not interested in politics.


There are more efficient ways to make a difference.
I am afraid you are very wrong with your last paragraph. Maybe you should enlighten us more though!!
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by djdoxxx(op): 11:27am On Dec 13, 2015
Ymodulus:
There are now no openly atheist members of Politics in Nigeria, even most Nigerians with no religious affiliation, are gaining grounds in numbers. So far, i don't there has been no sitting political leader in Nigeria who came out to accept he/she is an atheist. Obviously, it's far easier to be a prostitute or member of so called occult groups and be a member of the a political party.

The reticence is pure political pragmatism. The reluctance of Nigerians to vote for atheists is one that needs no argument. Nigerians are ready to vote an idol worshiper who has no future for the country than to vote an atheist who can change the nation in weeks. We live in a country where we are more religious than God himself. I ask myself sometimes that when people of faith question the morality of those without faith, how do they reconcile that with the countless crimes committed in the name of religion in history (e.g. Kaduna fight 2000 - 2003 ) and in recent times (e.g. BokoHaram)?

When the views of of a few 5% - 10% of the Nigerian people are not part of the debate in our legislatures, the laws that are passed may not fully reflect the will of the people or, at a minimum, take into account the opinion of a sizable minority. Imagine how people would react today if there were no Christians or Muslims in top political offices.

That admitted atheists are virtually unelectable is a mark of prejudice against them and it impacts the ways we formally educate the future leaders of this country. Consider the fact that Tennessee recently passed a law allowing teachers to tell their students that evolution and climate change are "scientifically controversial," and that Ohio is considering passing a law that would enable the teaching of intelligent design alongside evolution.

Why is it that we require our candidates to profess a religious faith, but not that they demonstrate even minimal scientific literacy?

As one prejudice after another has fallen by the wayside and we have elected women, terrorist sponsors, pedophiles, and even people not from our country to represent us, we have seen that the Nigeria has not come to an end. Life continues, and our debate is enriched by the diversity of opinions. It is time to end the prejudice that keeps qualified people without faith from considering a run for public office and keeps atheist officials from being honest about their beliefs.

In summary i support the decision of the poster. However, there is need for this participation to be an intelligent one. One that display and shows the high level of standards of atheist. We should not indulge in unnecessary argument over irrelevancies, or opposing one party to another. We should think how we can make an impact and let people know that atheist made the impact.




Ymodulus
Ymodulus of Life!!!! I strongly believe you...You just nailed it completely....Best part of this writeup is the last paragraph.....We must Let them know We made the impact....!!! There's really nothing much I can say again. The group has been created already both on WhatsApp and Facebook.....We really mean business!!! All we need is to put good strategies in place and move on from there...there's no time for arguments, my brother....whoever is arguing is wasting his time as the person would be ignored....we would take steps to arrange for online meetings and specific days we would all be available for these online meetings so we don't disturb our private businesses.... I strongly believe we would advance from there.....Only We can make Nigeria the Nigeria we want; no one else!!! Prayers, Fastings, keeping mute and silence has not done us any good and it would never!!!
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by djdoxxx(op): 11:28am On Dec 13, 2015
menesheh:
What are you still waiting to add me then, 08160642576


There was this news i read about Kenyan atheists. I was baffled that Kenya could go that mile.
please drop us the news....eagerly waiting...those Kenyans are doing better than us in all ramifications.... Politics, Agriculture and Societal Developments.... Oga ooo!!! Nigeria - Giant of Africa in delusion!!!!
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by Nobody: 11:31am On Dec 13, 2015
I beg to differ. Joan of Arc would have been called insane in the 21st century; Lenin was exiled because of his radical ideas ; Malcom X could have been a thug and so on. Yet these individuals, radical as they were, foolish or insignificant as they seemed, impacted in this world.

Besides, This shitty country needs change!
Kay17:
Individuals themselves are products of their environment and it's conditions, therefore they are mere expressions for change not the change.
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by djdoxxx(op): 11:57am On Dec 13, 2015
ichommy:
Nice Thread DJDXXx, My Ogas don talk. According to Ymodulus Goosebaba aaronson and Johnydon22. It will be difficult for some as a atheist to run for an Office, or any politician to declare his/her belief. Yes , I won't be surprise if we have some Senators, house of Reps etc dat re atheist. Some will hide under an Umbrella of Christianity and Muslim religion. As a civilian let me share some experience with U.
Am using 2 main bank account, GTbank and Diamond but the DOB is Different during BVN process. D lady @ customer care said i should get an affidavit dat support Diamond DOB. I visited The high court and the ask for my name address etc she put Christianity, I said Ma can U change that. She said oops Muslim. I replied Atheist. We re more than 8 in her office. Everybody turns cold, One woman said young Man Y atheist. I smiled and replied Its a choice.
2. If you notice my signature Atheist is bold dere in green font. Someone will just quote my post on any thread e.g. Bro, U need Jesus, why will u be an atheist, why u hate god self, am praying for U Blah Blah On and On.
So if i want to run for An office, Vote Ichommy the man for the Job and during an Interview with the press i mention dat am atheist grin U go hear the guy nice o but nah satanic person. And someone stealing, looting public fund will donate Millions @ church fund raise. I will rather pay some kids school fees, feed the less privilege, help the community.
But as U said we need to gain ground.
CC solidkay
Kindly Ignore typos and error cheesy
#Team100% Atheist
. Well said bro...I am still facing this issue at home... But I try not to rub my atheism on anyone so no one rubs their belief on me too... My religious status on my National ID card is Atheism too... You need to see the look on the registrar's face when I told her I was an atheist...As I was leaving the office, I quickly became the talk of the office.
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by Ymodulus: 11:58am On Dec 13, 2015
djdoxxx:
. Well said bro...I am still facing this issue at home... But I try not to rub my atheism on anyone so no one rubs their belief on me too... My religious status on my National ID card is Atheism too... You need to see the look on the registrar's face when I told her I was an atheist...As I was leaving the office, I quickly became the talk of the office.
NIMC CARD?
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by Ymodulus: 12:00pm On Dec 13, 2015
djdoxxx:
Ymodulus of Life!!!! I strongly believe you...You just nailed it completely....Best part of this writeup is the last paragraph.....We must Let them know We made the impact....!!! There's really nothing much I can say again. The group has been created already both on WhatsApp and Facebook.....We really mean business!!! All we need is to put good strategies in place and move on from there...there's no time for arguments, my brother....whoever is arguing is wasting his time as the person would be ignored....we would take steps to arrange for online meetings and specific days we would all be available for these online meetings so we don't disturb our private businesses.... I strongly believe we would advance from there.....Only We can make Nigeria the Nigeria we want; no one else!!! Prayers, Fastings, keeping mute and silence has not done us any good and it would never!!!
Oops don't have a Facebook account.
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by ichommy(m): 12:58pm On Dec 13, 2015
grin
djdoxxx:
. Well said bro...I am still facing this issue at home... But I try not to rub my atheism on anyone so no one rubs their belief on me too... My religious status on my National ID card is Atheism too... You need to see the look on the registrar's face when I told her I was an atheist...As I was leaving the office, I quickly became the talk of the office.
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by matrix600(m): 1:01pm On Dec 13, 2015
stephenmorris:
I'm a free thinker in nairaland, but for fear of persecution I'm a religious man,I think our movement should have a name but let the name have nothing to do with atheism.
I would like to suggest the name of the movement should be simple and easy to identify with. I dont know if everyone will accept this- THE ORGANISED PEOPLE (T.O.P)
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by matrix600(m): 2:26pm On Dec 13, 2015
I am not an atheist, i do not brand myself any title. I have my own belief and my belief is more like that of Baruch spinoza. I'm in support of this idea and the movement, but i wouldn't want the movement to become an 'atheist only movement'. If our priority in this movement is to make a positive impact in this country and to take the helms of leadership or make reforms, all that is noble and i'm interested if only it doesn't become a war against the religious. We need a revolution for this country to move forward, we may have to step on toes along the way, we should expect blows as well. I believe this movement is only for the brave. This is like a dream, i'd like to see it come true
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by Nobody: 2:51pm On Dec 13, 2015
djdoxxx:
https://mobile./1468955376694960?tsid=0.42364440276287496&source=typeahead#

Or search for : Politics(Enough is Enough forum)

Do join the WhatsApp train too...
never be discouraged deji,I don't know you but I assure you of my loyalty to the movement even if people try never be discouraged a mango tree is not made up of one leaf but started from one to two leafs till it became hundreds pls never be discouraged
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by johnydon22(m): 3:13pm On Dec 13, 2015
matrix600:
I am not an atheist, i do not brand myself any title. I have my own belief and my belief is more like that of Baruch spinoza. I'm in support of this idea and the movement, but i wouldn't want the movement to become an 'atheist only movement'. If our priority in this movement is to make a positive impact in this country and to take the helms of leadership or make reforms, all that is noble and i'm interested if only it doesn't become a war against the religious. We need a revolution for this country to move forward, we may have to step on toes along the way, we should expect blows as well. I believe this movement is only for the brave. This is like a dream, i'd like to see it come true
Correct, any political reform needed in this country is a movement that should involve every youth in this country no matter their religious affiliation or irreligious tilt
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by Nobody: 1:00pm On Dec 14, 2015
SirWere:
Sadly:........ No, there ain't. Ever wondered why science and tech is dead in Nigeria? We keep hearing about how we have "talent" and all, but we import torches for crissake!!! If an athiest (scientifically inclined) gets to power, I can bet with my all that he's gonna change Science for the better.
dude, chill.

Politics is actually the most effective way.

but it isn't the most EFFICIENT way.

you see, to become a governor or more requires a lot of hard work. it pays off in the end but, really, It's almost impossible to become one as a atheist. the mere knowledge that you don't believe in a God of some sort, will almost guarantee that no one will vote for you.

and then, if you lose an election. you'd have to wait for another four years to campaign again. and a similar thing will happen.


in the end, the anticipated reward will look insignificant after all the failures. angry

Hence, we need a more efficient alternative. one with not so immense results, but one which can be achieved faster and more easily.
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by matrix600(m): 2:01pm On Dec 14, 2015
This is the best way i think we can achieve this, listen... First we need to put down the atheism tag, we have to look for a way to rally as many youths as we can through any media possible, we have to encourage everyone to drop their religious and irreligious differences, we have to remind the youth that we're in this together, that we have only ourselves in this country,that it is our country and our duty to get along and take charge, we have to make it obvious that the movement is for the benefit of all no matter their religious affiliation. If christians and muslims, traditional worshippers and atheists can get along and work together in this movement, then it will be a very huge leap towards the success of a co-ordinated and organised youth front. We need the 'THE ORGANISED PEOPLE' first.
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by dorox(m): 2:38pm On Dec 14, 2015
HCpaul:
Don't be harsh on me, afterall we are brothers.

Papa is just getting loaded.
He says that am moving from glory to glory.
If the hope of the christians finish here on earth, we are the most poorest citizens on earth.
But thank God we are heading to another world whose street is tiled with gold.

I just love the idea.
How does the part in bold square with your belief in prosperity gospel?
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by Nobody: 3:24pm On Dec 14, 2015
dorox:
How does the part in bold square with your belief in prosperity gospel?
How far? Long time. Where you hide since? angry grin
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by Nobody: 5:11pm On Dec 14, 2015
Teempakguy:
dude, chill.

Politics is actually the most effective way.

but it isn't the most EFFICIENT way.

you see, to become a governor or more requires a lot of hard work. it pays off in the end but, really, It's almost impossible to become one as a atheist. the mere knowledge that you don't believe in a God of some sort, will almost guarantee that no one will vote for you.

and then, if you lose an election. you'd have to wait for another four years to campaign again. and a similar thing will happen.


in the end, the anticipated reward will look insignificant after all the failures. angry

Hence, we need a more efficient alternative. one with not so immense results, but one which can be achieved faster and more easily.
Well, short a military coup'detat or the October Revolution, I see no other way of us in power. You see, all you need to do is not add the name tag "Atheist" to the party. Of course the US government will later try to discredit us by saying we're atheists but hopefully by the time that happens, we would have done some real changes with visible results. Hate us all you want but no one argues with results.


Besides, we're not above a little "Deliverance"; are wehuhgringringrin
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by Nobody: 5:15pm On Dec 14, 2015
SirWere:
Well, short a military coup'detat or the October Revolution, I see no other way of us in power. You see, all you need to do is not add the name tag "Atheist" to the party. Of course the US government will later try to discredit us by saying we're atheists but hopefully by the time that happens, we would have done some real changes with visible results. Hate us all you want but no one argues with results.


Besides, we're not above a little "Deliverance"; are wehuhgringringrin
Wait, what? shocked
they actually want to start a new party?

i thought the plan was to infiltrate existing parties. sad
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by djdoxxx(op): 12:41am On Dec 21, 2015
Ymodulus:
Oops don't have a Facebook account.
Are you on WhatsApp? Add me up or send your number....
Re: My Fellow Atheists...it's High Time We Went Political To Rebuild This Nation. by Nobody: 11:11pm On Jun 06, 2017
johnydon22:
I am not surprised you mistake disagreement over a premise to mean fighting, i do not expect much from you owing to the fact you are still quite naive and childish

I cannot recall when reading science books or historical antiquities became reading about God or what ever ..

You should take my advice and gather your wits..


Its obvious who really needs to take this advice here..

By the way i thought you said you were done posting on nairaland? what the heck are you still doing here..?

i thought lying was a sin against jesus..lol.. You can't even decide what you want.

Keeps getting dumber and more childish by the day...hope you are not like that in real life
lol,hc Paul has changed
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