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Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by Nobody: 8:10am On Dec 17, 2015
[color=#000099][/color]Ehya, dasuki sorry buhariGate doesnt look like its going to work again.. Find another agenda on how analysis how you spent our money... #BloodyTheif
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by CreamyBanana(m): 8:11am On Dec 17, 2015
cuteboy2:


So it is legal for the office of NSA to spend funds meant for arms in purchasing status vehicles for ex-Heads of State

Would it be right for a government agency like NNPC, NIMASA or Nigerian Customs to spend out of thier budget to purchase cars for former leaders when their budget was not appropriated for such purpose? That would be wrong application of funds. It is equivalent to diversion of public funds to wrong or illegal avenues. President Buhari as a former leader who knows the inner workings of government should know without any iota of doubt that that procedure is wrong and fraudulent.

The best President Buhari should do at this point is to instruct his protocol to return those vehicles, and claim that he was not aware of the source of the funds for those vehicles. After all he does not really need them now any longer since he now has all the paraphernalia of the Office of the President at his beck and call. He should simply say that he accepted them from Dasuki, since Dasuki was a top functionary in the Presidency, and only thought Dasuki was simply handing over the vehicles, and not that he purchased them with misapplied government funds. This is the honourable and decent thing to do. The nation will support and applaud the President. Subterfuge and denial will not help.

What is wrong is wrong, let's not try to parse and stretch the truth.

That arms' deal money was used is not Buhari's business. It is the NSA that should tell why arms's deal money was used. Dasuki would be answering that question not Buhari.

If a civil servant got his salary from stolen funds, would you blame him? Or are you saying government employers/ pensioners should question the source of their salaries/pensions before receiving them?

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Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by isnovic(m): 8:15am On Dec 17, 2015
abitex577:
A can of worms was open when the names of ‘highly placed’ Nigerians who got a share of the alleged $2.1b arms scandal started flying in the media.
More disturbing was that President Buhari’s name was mentioned as a partaker of the loot.
Though his media team did a good job of debunking the claim that Mr. President collected $300,000, they confirmed he received two jeeps, adding that it was his entitlement and he was even ‘prevailed upon’ to receive the vehicles.
Popular Nigerian lawyer, Festus Keyamo has come out to clear the air on the legal implications of the President receiving the cars.
[/b]Keyamo on his Twitter timeline said “The Law on d entitlements of former Heads of State says they're entitled to 3 cars each to be changed by d FG every 4 years + other benefits.”
Adding that “The cars given to former Heads of State are ppties of d F.G as they must be returned & replaced every 4 yrs. They can't be declared as gifts.”[b]

[/b]“The law did not say which office of d F.G caters for ex-Presidents. But, I know it's illegal for d NSA to pick d bills of a political party,” he said.[b]
Festus Keyamo is a Nigerian lawyer, human right activist, social commentator and columnist.

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How convenient to interpret the Law in PMB favor.
The Law also says the Cars should not come from the office of the ONSA.

Why did accept the 2 cars when it is coming from the ONSA and asked them to revert to the status ante.

Mtchewwwww.
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by omonnakoda: 8:17am On Dec 17, 2015
Tolexander:
Thanks Mr Festus Keyamo on that.

The very question we need asking before exonerating Mr President is that, The cars(2 Toyota Land cruiser, armored and unarmored) given to him, ?

Because if there is a legal back up, definitely, there should be a protocol to be followed.

Do not use redundant and incongruous phrases trying to sound learned and achieving the opposite effect!!

1.were they presented status quo ante ie the way/protocol the entitlements were presented over the years?
2.were they presented the way they were presented over the years

keep it simple and spare the bombast.
When a car goes too fast in the wrong gear it starts to to groan and grumble
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by Juban(m): 8:17am On Dec 17, 2015
http://pulse.ng/local/buhari-keyamo-speaks-on-legal-implication-of-presidents-gift-of-2-jeeps-id4472000.html[/quote]

Keyamo has lost all credibility since he started supporting Buhari blindly. Why haven't he commented on the Zaria Masscare. He was represented efcc for long during Larmode tenure. He should be investigated.
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by menxer: 8:18am On Dec 17, 2015
When PMB was attacked the Presidency directed his official cars be replaced, those cars are still the properties of the Federal government not the personal properties of PMB as PDP wants us to believe.

Don't tell me the Presidency didn't know where funds for such replacement should be taken from.

Besides I know there are enough spare of such cars in the Presidential car pool that makes it unnecessary to buy new ones with unappropriated funds to start with.

cuteboy2:


So it is legal for the office of NSA to spend funds meant for arms in purchasing status vehicles for ex-Heads of State

Would it be right for a government agency like NNPC, NIMASA or Nigerian Customs to spend out of thier budget to purchase cars for former leaders when their budget was not appropriated for such purpose? That would be wrong application of funds. It is equivalent to diversion of public funds to wrong or illegal avenues. President Buhari as a former leader who knows the inner workings of government should know without any iota of doubt that that procedure is wrong and fraudulent.

The best President Buhari should do at this point is to instruct his protocol to return those vehicles, and claim that he was not aware of the source of the funds for those vehicles. After all he does not really need them now any longer since he now has all the paraphernalia of the Office of the President at his beck and call. He should simply say that he accepted them from Dasuki, since Dasuki was a top functionary in the Presidency, and only thought Dasuki was simply handing over the vehicles, and not that he purchased them with misapplied government funds. This is the honourable and decent thing to do. The nation will support and applaud the President. Subterfuge and denial will not help.

What is wrong is wrong, let's not try to parse and stretch the truth.
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by OrlandoOwoh(m): 8:18am On Dec 17, 2015
If former heads of state are entitled to three vehicles, how come Buhari got only two? Dasuki or whoever was responsible has questions to answer.
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by Orikinla(m): 8:20am On Dec 17, 2015
Arresting ATM Dasuki without arresting his boss, GEJ is wrong. Who was giving ATM Dasuki presidential orders to misappropriate the billions of dollars allocated for the war against Boko Haram? GEJ. And they caused the untimely deaths of thousands of innocent Nigerians who would not have been killed by Boko Haram if the NSA used the billions of dollars to buy the arms urgently needed by the Nigerian Army to stop the attacks of the Boko Haram. But GEJ NOI and Dasuki diverted and misappropriated the loot and relooted it for the political campaigns of a desperate corrupt and incompetent President who wanted a second term to cover up his corrupt practices and other atrocities to escape from condemnation and prosecution.
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by Tmaritas76(m): 8:22am On Dec 17, 2015
He is entitled to three cars and was given two why not request for the third one if his conscience told him it was his entitlement he is receiving from the wrong office.end time entitlement,inconclusive gift
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by bumi10(m): 8:23am On Dec 17, 2015
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Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by omonnakoda: 8:28am On Dec 17, 2015
At some point there was drama of seizing cars from Buhari which we still remember. Buhari received cars from the government and has no duty to inquire further about the source of funding.In the light of recent revelations which are embarrassing to his current office he needs to get advice from the Attorney General on what to do with those vehicles if still in his possession. This should be done formally and publicly. If the cars are the ONLY thing he received then I do not see any wrong doing .Presumably all other Heads of State received the same gesture. I wonder whether the Abacha family got their share grin
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by cuteboy2: 8:30am On Dec 17, 2015
CreamyBanana:


That arms' deal money was used is not Buhari's business. It is the NSA that should tell why arms's deal money was used. Dasuki would be answering that question not Buhari.

If a civil servant got his salary from stolen funds, would you blame him? Or are you saying government employers/ pensioners should question the source of their salaries/pensions before receiving them?

We are talking here about the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, not some poor civil servant.
We are talking about a very ascetic leader who got into office on one single but powerful credential: honesty and incorruptibility.

We are talking here about a sitting President, and how he should react when it becomes public knowledge that one of his fringe benefits was procured with misappropriated funds, and what his reaction should be. The actions and standards of behaviour expected from Mr President, especially this President is far higher than that of a poor underpaid civil servant.

Please let us not mislead this President to compromise his armour of incorruptibility, by encouraging him to justify illegality, even if such legal plank is supplied by Festus Keyamo. Keyamo is not Buhari's lawyer, and he certainly is not the repository of all knowledge when it comes to correct interpretation of Nigerian laws. Keyamo is simply ingratiating himself by making the right noises, which might not necessarily help the President.

May God save us from our friends (like Keyamo). The enemies are easier to handle.

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Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by AJaylee(m): 8:30am On Dec 17, 2015
Dis is d result of having an incapable nd undecisive government, did Jonathan even do anything right?
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by PassingShot(m): 8:30am On Dec 17, 2015
agabaI23:
Tell me how that makes sense..
By the way, Dasuki said 5 SUVs and $300K. I am just wondering why you guys are disputing this very information when you have accepted all other names linked with him as the Gospel truth and call all thieves. Why is it that this particular case is a lie? Is it possible all other names linked to him are not true after all?

Pilgars law: "If it is denied officially, it is mostly likely true"
It makes sense in the sense that it is illegal for any government's MDA to pick bills of a political party as has been revealed by how Dasuki picked bills of PDP's campaigns with AIT.

All the names mentioned so far have made confessional statetements they received money from Dasuki but claiming it's for different purposes. So, no contradictions here. This particular one about Buhari is a fat lie for many reasons:
1. Dasuki office claims PMB got $300k but has failed to say if it was cash or check or bank transfer. In many of the others of such allegations, we have seen documents establishing money transfer. So, no sane man will accept the claim without any evidence.

2. PMB declared the SUVs in question among his assests declared. He specifically made mention of those SUVs as his entitlements from FG as a former HOS. So, it is not any news to us now. The FG has a duty to replace his SUVs when they got bombed by Boko Haram. Not so?

3. Dasuki as a dying man will mention any high profile name to have a chance at surviving. It won't matter to him if the claim can be substantiated or not. However, he needs to show proof of those claim.

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Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by omonnakoda: 8:35am On Dec 17, 2015
Tmaritas76:
He is entitled to three cars and was given two why not request for the third one if his conscience told him it was his entitlement he is receiving from the wrong office.end time entitlement,inconclusive gift
Conscience? How do you know whether he requested? So what if he did not request? Where were you when government embarrassed him by seizing a car from him?
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by agabusta: 8:37am On Dec 17, 2015
ewigmee:
Pls I want to know if the law stated that the car should be replaced when damaged, even if it's not 4yrs or due for replacement. Someone help pls.

Common sense should dictate that to you! The vehicles are not meant for decoration, they are meant to facilitate security and ease the movement of an erstwhile leader of the country.

If there is an attempted assination of GEJ, and his vehicles gets damaged, it would be very senseless and callous of the present govt to tell him he has to wait for 4 years before the damaged cars has to be replaced. And the govt would also be liable to anything that happens to the person throughout that period.

And as you can see from the submission of the legal mind, the vehicles are still the property of the FGN. Even if damaged, they would be taken by the FGN while a replacement is effected.
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by gtrust: 8:39am On Dec 17, 2015
PMB declared the 2 SUVs as gifts from well wishers

The 4 SUVs from the FG to former presidents remain properties of FG and must be returned and replaced every 4 years
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by Oduduwaboy(m): 8:42am On Dec 17, 2015
The PDP are throwing mud around but it wont stick on Baba; Dasuki's suffering no go get part 2!
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by emmykk(m): 8:43am On Dec 17, 2015
Demdem:
“The law did not say which office of d F.G caters for ex-Presidents. But, I know it's illegal for d NSA to pick d bills of a political party,” he said.

Makes sense.
secretary to the federation SGF is responsible and not NSA.
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by eyesofgod: 8:43am On Dec 17, 2015
Demdem:
If the law says three and the General was given two then Dasuki could have embezzled the third. undecided he needs to explain.

Jeez!!! Eyes de red
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by JazzMode: 8:43am On Dec 17, 2015
This one long winding corruption war, hope it ends up not leading us no where?
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by hotdi(m): 8:44am On Dec 17, 2015
Dasuki is just confuse of what is staring at his face
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by agabusta: 8:45am On Dec 17, 2015
agabaI23:
Tell me how that makes sense..
By the way, Dasuki said 5 SUVs and $300K. I am just wondering why you guys are disputing this very information when you have accepted all other names linked with him as the Gospel truth and call all thieves. Why is it that this particular case is a lie? Is it possible all other names linked to him are not true after all?

Pilgars law: "If it is denied officially, it is mostly likely true"

The presidency said its a lie. That PMB only received 2 SUVs and no cash. It is now left for the accuser, Dansuki to provide the evidence that indeed he gave him 5 cars and $300k, until he does that it will be foolishness to keep supporting his accusation.

At least the accusation of the FGN against same Dansuki has been tabled before the court, and we even saw some of the evidences of such movements of cash being posted to the social media.

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Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by GeneviveHuby: 8:46am On Dec 17, 2015
Some questions please:

1. Why must Dasuki use money meant to fight terrorism for fulfilling GMB's entitlement?
2. Buhari has been very sensitive to Nigerian issues bothering on corruption. Why wasn't he sensitive enough to question the incomplete entitlements and accepted only two SUVs? Couldn't he smell something as he has the nose.

3. Why is the presidency trying to exonerate PMB from this?
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by Truckpusher(m): 8:46am On Dec 17, 2015
cuteboy2:


So it is legal for the office of NSA to spend funds meant for arms in purchasing status vehicles for ex-Heads of State

Would it be right for a government agency like NNPC, NIMASA or Nigerian Customs to spend out of thier budget to purchase cars for former leaders when their budget was not appropriated for such purpose? That would be wrong application of funds. It is equivalent to diversion of public funds to wrong or illegal avenues. President Buhari as a former leader who knows the inner workings of government should know without any iota of doubt that that procedure is wrong and fraudulent.

The best President Buhari should do at this point is to instruct his protocol to return those vehicles, and claim that he was not aware of the source of the funds for those vehicles. After all he does not really need them now any longer since he now has all the paraphernalia of the Office of the President at his beck and call. He should simply say that he accepted them from Dasuki, since Dasuki was a top functionary in the Presidency, and only thought Dasuki was simply handing over the vehicles, and not that he purchased them with misapplied government funds. This is the honourable and decent thing to do. The nation will support and applaud the President. Subterfuge and denial will not help.

What is wrong is wrong, let's not try to parse and stretch the truth.
You just wasted your precious knowledge on a man that runs with an IQ of a third world rodent.
Don't sweat it by quoting that thing , nigga is a scumbag.
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by Nobody: 8:47am On Dec 17, 2015
eyesofgod:

Jeez!!! Eyes de red
.. I' m telling you my brother..
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by agabusta: 8:47am On Dec 17, 2015
cuteboy2:


So it is legal for the office of NSA to spend funds meant for arms in purchasing status vehicles for ex-Heads of State

Would it be right for a government agency like NNPC, NIMASA or Nigerian Customs to spend out of thier budget to purchase cars for former leaders when their budget was not appropriated for such purpose? That would be wrong application of funds. It is equivalent to diversion of public funds to wrong or illegal avenues. President Buhari as a former leader who knows the inner workings of government should know without any iota of doubt that that procedure is wrong and fraudulent.

The best President Buhari should do at this point is to instruct his protocol to return those vehicles, and claim that he was not aware of the source of the funds for those vehicles. After all he does not really need them now any longer since he now has all the paraphernalia of the Office of the President at his beck and call. He should simply say that he accepted them from Dasuki, since Dasuki was a top functionary in the Presidency, and only thought Dasuki was simply handing over the vehicles, and not that he purchased them with misapplied government funds. This is the honourable and decent thing to do. The nation will support and applaud the President. Subterfuge and denial will not help.

What is wrong is wrong, let's not try to parse and stretch the truth.

Of course it is very wrong for Dansuki to take money meant for arms to provide legal entitlements to former heads of state. It is called misappropriation and Dansuki should also be tried for that alongside his other sins.

Misappropriation is a serious corruption case.
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by ZUBY77(m): 8:51am On Dec 17, 2015
cuteboy2:


So it is legal for the office of NSA to spend funds meant for arms in purchasing status vehicles for ex-Heads of State

Would it be right for a government agency like NNPC, NIMASA or Nigerian Customs to spend out of thier budget to purchase cars for former leaders when their budget was not appropriated for such purpose? That would be wrong application of funds. It is equivalent to diversion of public funds to wrong or illegal avenues. President Buhari as a former leader who knows the inner workings of government should know without any iota of doubt that that procedure is wrong and fraudulent.

The best President Buhari should do at this point is to instruct his protocol to return those vehicles, and claim that he was not aware of the source of the funds for those vehicles. After all he does not really need them now any longer since he now has all the paraphernalia of the Office of the President at his beck and call. He should simply say that he accepted them from Dasuki, since Dasuki was a top functionary in the Presidency, and only thought Dasuki was simply handing over the vehicles, and not that he purchased them with misapplied government funds. This is the honourable and decent thing to do. The nation will support and applaud the President. Subterfuge and denial will not help.

What is wrong is wrong, let's not try to parse and stretch the truth.

Good points. I like it when people reason well.
Not some dull heads who are ready to flow with any news from any media outlet. Some are even praying for Dasuki to mention their enemies. But unfortunately, that's how the heads of most Africans were programmed to function.

If Dasuki mention Oshiomole or Fashola, then it's a lie to the APC.
But if he mentions Bode George or Fani Kayode, it is true to APC.

It's a pity how we are divided along tribe, party and religion lines.
Everything is mixed up and there seem to be no way out of all this except forming regional governments and a weak central one. It would be easier to monitor the excesses of your own brother.

Tinubu cannot find it easy to steal what belongs to him and Obasanjo.

Rochas will find it hard to cheat Ekweremadu.

Elrufai will struggle to take what belongs to him and Sanusi.

At least such system of government can make things easier until we are mentally matured enough to come back together like the Europeans did.

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Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by mpowa(m): 9:02am On Dec 17, 2015
It was right for Buhari to collect his entitlement by the law, I think what was wrong was collect it from the arms deal which was meant for fight against the insurgence, but it's not Buhari's fault, it was the fault of the GEJ government who don't follow due process and decided to settle him from the arms deal, they probably planned to do that for a time like this when they'll be able to say he's part of it.
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by dyn1800: 9:05am On Dec 17, 2015
Hmmm even the Quoted constitution is APCs'.... Try to be reasonable bro..... Everything shouldn't based on hatred
Urbana:
APC lawyer
Re: Keyamo Speaks On Legal Implication Of President's Gift Of 2 Jeeps by bobochem: 9:17am On Dec 17, 2015
keyamo's disposition on national issues of recent is bias and sentimental. is not d same keyamo dt stopped further prosecution of APC gov candidate in bayelsa state.indeed keyamo is APC lawyer.

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