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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 12:10pm On Dec 22, 2015
elampiro:
Van Gaal Philosophy is not totally useless. It will work if:

1. He has the right players, particularly in the wings.

2. If he has a large squad of experience players.

3. If he's good at his selections and substitutions.

Even Ajax of 2005 had Finidi George who could sneak behind the defence with intelligent run and deliver a pin point final pass/cross.

Martial/Depay/Lingard have awful final balls as compared to our wingers under SAF. Giggs at 40 would deliver from the wings better than our current wingers.
ogbeni, Finidi still dy play ball by 2005?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 12:11pm On Dec 22, 2015
elampiro:
Mata and RVP are negatives to a team. Period!

Mata in Chelsea dragged them from league contenders or even winners to a team just smuggling to make top four. When he left, just

RVP is an hyena who makes everyone else to work for him, and eventually render them impotent in front of goals. As soon as he left Arsenal, Giroud, Ramsey and co started learning how to score again.
Elampiro wetin be this Na ?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 12:23pm On Dec 22, 2015
SIRcumalot:
Elampiro wetin be this Na ?
I swear d guy woke up from the wrong side of his bed this morning...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 12:25pm On Dec 22, 2015
JayKayMaybachz:
Today Is My Birthday, Fam
long life & prosperity!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 12:30pm On Dec 22, 2015
grin RvP the hyena was blocking others from scoring is now out and the team now scores 3 goals per match or Mata now does the blocking. grin


Very obvious we've remained trophyless any season the attack's focal point is on Rooney. Fergie knows better. cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:32pm On Dec 22, 2015
SIRcumalot:
Elampiro wetin be this Na ?
Na true I talk.

We did better in 2011/2012 than 2012/2013 despite all the injuries and Paul Scholes absence. Van Persie was just an opportunist considering Chicha and Welbeck were event better matured in 2012/13 and few injuries. Man City internal crisis from middle of the league also helped us to pull away. Otherwise we had less goals difference in 2012/13 while finishing same point.

Mata, from when he came, it was bad bad results. Just like when he was in Chelsea.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 12:32pm On Dec 22, 2015
JayKayMaybachz:
Today Is My Birthday, Fam
More Blissful years ahead.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 12:36pm On Dec 22, 2015
elampiro baba. .... I wasn't interested in ya whole Mata fiasco. ..but how dare you rubbish RVP a god who came from olympus and shiit on Rooney!


dats blasphemous. ... better fix dat nonsense post!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:38pm On Dec 22, 2015
chrisley024:
grin RvP the hyena was blocking others from scoring is now out and the team now scores 3 goals per match or Mata now does the blocking. grin


Very obvious we've remained trophyless any season the attack's focal point is on Rooney. Fergie knows better. cool
When Rooney is playing on top, there is usually no strong person to do all the laborious work behind him as he did for others. The support is usually weak. But he supports others well when playing behind.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 12:39pm On Dec 22, 2015
chrisley024:
grin RvP the hyena was blocking others from scoring is now out and the team now scores 3 goals per match or Mata now does the blocking. grin


Very obvious we've remained trophyless any season the attack's focal point is on Rooney . Fergie knows better. cool
elampiro as you can see, rooney is what you're trying to claim mata is, with rooney as a teams talisman, dat team 'll never win a league title #FACT.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:42pm On Dec 22, 2015
elrony:
elampiro baba. .... I wasn't interested in ya whole Mata fiasco. ..but how dare you rubbish RVP a god who came from olympus and shiit on Rooney!


dats blasphemous. ... better fix dat nonsense post!!!
RVP was just an opportunist. Chikena.

Welbeck and Chicha were ready to lead our line in front of Rooney to win the league in 2011/13. Just as three of them gave us a great attacking football the previous season. RVP came from nowhere to spoil the structure, and that's what we suffer today. Many players who were used to running freely into the box had to learn to play towards a focal man every match of the season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 12:42pm On Dec 22, 2015
elampiro:
Na true I talk.

We did better in 2011/2012 than 2012/2013 despite all the injuries and Paul Scholes absence. Van Persie was just an opportunist considering Chicha and Welbeck were event better matured in 2012/13 and few injuries. Man City internal crisis from middle of the league also helped us to pull away. Otherwise we had less goals difference in 2012/13 while finishing same point.

Mata, from when he came, it was bad bad results. Just like when he was in Chelsea.
so who is blocking Rooney now? I still observed from highlights of the last game Martial playing right wing, so why is Sir Rooney not scoring?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:47pm On Dec 22, 2015
weedtaker:
elampiro as you can see, rooney is what you're trying to claim mata is, with rooney as a teams talisman, dat team 'll never win a league title #FACT.
He has only played as a striker in one season, 2009/2010. Injury ruined it for us it was a great season until he injured in Munich, and SAF had to force him into games which further aggravated the injury. Then Berbatov couldn't carry us in the run in.

SAF decision to rest let players against Chelsea at Old Trafford was also a bad idea. Nani and Carrick I think missed starting that match when Drogba's offside goal ensured Chelsea went two goals up and ended it.

In 2011/12 Rooney did not play on top. The number of times Chicha and Welbeck were flagged offside is more than enough evidence.

I rest may case.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 12:48pm On Dec 22, 2015
SailorXY:
so who is blocking Rooney now? I still observed from highlights of the last game Martial playing right wing, so why is Sir Rooney not scoring?
RvP's ghost or maybe Mata. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 12:49pm On Dec 22, 2015
injury dis injury dat, offside goal, onside goal, resting so so and so no mean anything, fact is rooney failed us twice in de title race.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:50pm On Dec 22, 2015
SailorXY:
so who is blocking Rooney now? I still observed from highlights of the last game Martial playing right wing, so why is Sir Rooney not scoring?
RVP had already spoilt everything now. If we didn't have RVP and Kagawa, we would still have our pacing players like Nani and Val running freely while Rooney sends a diagonal pass from number 10, then he goes into the box to nod in. These guys were not used to controlled football brought by Kagawa and RVP. Plus Gaal's controlled football now.

No one is scoring many goals now. Has it ever been like this?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:54pm On Dec 22, 2015
Sailorxy see stats below. We are poor in creating clear cut chances.

Even our strikers are taking the least shots in the league. Rooney used to be one of the players taking most shots.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:00pm On Dec 22, 2015
weedtaker:
ere is usually no strong person to do all the laborious work behind him as he did for others. The support is usually weak. But he supports others well when playing behind. and the only season chicha and berbertov sparehead our attack, we won our 19league title, berba even won de golden boot that season, rooney should bury his head in shame.
Berbatov failed us. Before Rooney's injury which was compounded by SAF' s desire to keep him playing at all cost, we were on top of the league with few games to go, Rooney was toping scorers chart but Berbatov couldn't step in when needed.

In 2012/13 RVP went about 11 games without a goal, that period Rooney averaged almost 1 goal per match. That's how to win a league.


Bye for now. See you later.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 1:01pm On Dec 22, 2015
elampiro:
When Rooney is playing on top, there is usually no strong person to do all the laborious work behind him as he did for others. The support is usually weak. But he supports others well when playing behind.
Lame excuse. So how did he score all those goals '09/10? No one is disputing the fact he wasn't an integral part of our attack.

The fact is why we were shouting for the reinforcement of the midfield, Fergie, knowing he'd go trophyless again with Rooney as the point man in attack, took a big risk by paying a huge fee for an old injury prone striker. He Knew he needed more goals to win the title. Unless you now know better than him then you should replace LvG.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 1:02pm On Dec 22, 2015
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 1:05pm On Dec 22, 2015
elampiro:
Berbatov failed us. Before Rooney's injury which was compounded by SAF' s desire to keep him playing at all cost, we were on top of the league with few games to go, Rooney was toping scorers chart but Berbatov couldn't step in when needed.

In 2012/13 RVP went about 11 games without a goal, that period Rooney averaged almost 1 goal per match. That's how to win a league.


Bye for now. See you later.
okay lets just agree that he [berba] failed us that season, but the nxt season [2010/11] berba won us the league with his golden boot winning 21league goals, how many wey rooney don win for us?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:14pm On Dec 22, 2015
chrisley024:
Lame excuse. So how did he score all those goals '09/10? No one is disputing the fact he wasn't an integral part of our attack.

The fact is why we were shouting for the reinforcement of the midfield, Fergie, knowing he'd go trophyless again with Rooney as the point man in attack, took a big risk by paying a huge fee for an old injury prone striker. He Knew he needed more goals to win the title. Unless you now know better than him then you should replace LvG.
Rooney played almost 3000 minutes and had just 2 offsides.

Chicha played half of Rooney's time and had 42 offsides.

When you compare this to other seasons you will know Rooney did not play on top.






However, it we had Scholes from beginning we would have won the league with nearly 100 points.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:19pm On Dec 22, 2015
weedtaker:
okay lets just agree that he [berba] failed us that season, but the nxt season [2010/11] berba won us the league with his golden boot winning 21league goals, how many wey rooney don win for us?
How did Berbatov win the league when his goals were in just 11 league games? Remove his goals we would still win most of the games.

Rooney won us more points than Berbatov that season. Fact!




I beg I go return later for this argument. It's getting serious na.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 1:24pm On Dec 22, 2015
elampiro:
How did Berbatov win the league when his goals were in just 11 league games? Remove his goals we would still win most of the games.

Rooney won us more points than Berbatov that season. Fact!




I beg I go return later for this argument. It's getting serious na.
which serious, abeg go smoke ur weed jeje o, i no get time for marathon arguement, i no be coogar.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:25pm On Dec 22, 2015
This is 2012/2013 when Rooney also played number 10.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:27pm On Dec 22, 2015
This is 2009/2010 when Rooney paired with Berbatov as CO-strikers. We can clearly see the offside pattern.


Abeg I don logout first o.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 1:34pm On Dec 22, 2015
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 1:54pm On Dec 22, 2015
elampiro:
Rooney played almost 3000 minutes and had just 2 offsides.

Chicha played half of Rooney's time and had 42 offsides.

When you compare this to other seasons you will know Rooney did not play on top.






However, it we had Scholes from beginning we would have won the league with nearly 100 points.
hahaha. So it's now by offsides when we know Chicha can cop more offsides in a game than some strikers do in 5 games. Maybe Val, Nani and Evra also played more forward going by your logic. Fact remains he has played majorly as a striker in a 4-4-2 under Fergie and my conclusion is he cannot be depended on as the focal point(doesn't mean CF) in our attack. End of this discussion from me.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:05pm On Dec 22, 2015
Na so so lamentation full this thread grin grin, Van Gaal has turned them Scummies to wailers grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 2:06pm On Dec 22, 2015
kokaneprodigy:
Na so so lamentation full this thread grin grin, Van Gaal has turned them Scummies to wailers grin grin
what Gayners have been doing for the past decade grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 2:26pm On Dec 22, 2015
All you lots just gather here arguing and spill rubbish when you should be discussing how the Gunners disgraced you and your noisy neighbours.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 2:52pm On Dec 22, 2015
Spy360:
All you lots just gather here arguing and spill rubbish when you should be discussing how the Gunners disgraced you and your noisy neighbours.
We all know Nyashnal won't win the league so what's new?
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