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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Olaone1: 7:15am On Dec 24, 2015
nyabinghi:
1025 you will soon disappear like you have been doing since the year 1025
Hahahah. 1025? Me? You got that completely and abysmally wrong, bro
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 7:36am On Dec 24, 2015
afrodoc2:
Weed is definitely safer than cigarettes.
However Logbegs my next door neighbor with no family history of mental illness lost 2 years of medical school cos of weed.
Yemzy went from being 2yrs my senior to being 1 year my junior cos of weed.
Scientifically it has not been conclusively shown to cause mental illness but what I have seen it do to guys is enough for me .
exactly
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 7:40am On Dec 24, 2015
Nihilist:
Very trashy paper, the Sun
I actually now just wish lvg turns it around so that they can all look stůpid.
The United board sef, No try at all. No official statement or whatever, they just left him for the media Hawks to feast on.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 7:47am On Dec 24, 2015
If reports of the 2 game ultimatum are true, then it's really just a way to find out if the boys want him here or not and that doesn't sound like good news.
So far only Schweinsteiger and maybe Jones have come out to back him.
And Jones has been the only person to do so since the heat started
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 7:50am On Dec 24, 2015
PietroRico:
I actually now just wish lvg turns it around so that they can all look stůpid.
The United board sef, No try at all. No official statement or whatever, they just left him for the media Hawks to feast on.
no surprise say na one fan pay for that exclusive or a member of the board!!

funny...only Wenger got to criticise the media concerning Bangaal
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 7:52am On Dec 24, 2015
PietroRico:
If reports of the 2 game ultimatum is true, then it's really just a way to find out if the boys want him here or not and that doesn't sound like good news.
So far only Schweinsteiger and maybe Jones have come out to back him.
And Jones has been the only person to do so since the heat started
just watching the whole drama in 3D. ...only LVG can save himself sha
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 7:54am On Dec 24, 2015
elrony:
just watching the whole drama in 3D. ...only LVG can save himself sha
if he has lost the dressing room, there's really nothing he can do at this stage.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 7:55am On Dec 24, 2015
PietroRico:
I actually now just wish lvg turns it around so that they can all look stůpid.
The United board sef, No try at all. No official statement or whatever, they just left him for the media Hawks to feast on.
As in!

The board have been very classless in this matter. No single public message of support from them be it on or off the record. The sun would never have dared this hatchet job on Ferguson.

They might as well just sack the man now, instead of leaving him out to this kind of ridicule...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 8:08am On Dec 24, 2015
Nihilist:
As in!

The board have been very classless in this matter. No single public message of support from them be it on or off the record. The sun would never have dared this hatchet job on Ferguson.

They might as well just sack the man now, instead of leaving him out to this kind of ridicule...
the Woodward led board has always been notorious for indecisiveness.

I think he has eyes on Guardiola sha and he's probably trying to explore the possibility of him coming here.

Sacking lvg now leaves 2 options, appoint Mourinho now and lose the prospect of Guardiola or appoint Giggs as interim as a means of waiting for Guardiola.

Both decisions have their pros and cons
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 8:11am On Dec 24, 2015
PietroRico:
the Woodward led board has always been notorious for indecisiveness.

I think he has eyes on Guardiola sha and he's probably trying to explore the possibility of him coming here.

Sacking lvg now leaves 2 options, appoint Mourinho now and lose the prospect of Guardiola or appoint Giggs as interim as a means of waiting for Guardiola.

Both decisions have their pros and cons
I don't know why Giggs should even be considered for the gig...

I feel that he too must be at least partly responsible for the football that you guys play.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dhelake: 8:14am On Dec 24, 2015
Even if the board comes out to give LVG a vote of confidence
Na sack letter dey follow vote of confidence
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 8:23am On Dec 24, 2015
Nihilist:
I don't know why Giggs should even be considered for the gig...

I feel that he too must be at least partly responsible for the football that you guys play.
I doubt his part in it is of any real significance. I still have serious doubts about him sha.
The prospect of Giggs managing the team till seasons end scares the shít out of me.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 8:36am On Dec 24, 2015
sad
GIGGS does not deserve the man united top job YET!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 8:39am On Dec 24, 2015
PietroRico:
I doubt his part in it is of any real significance. I still have serious doubts about him sha.
The prospect of Giggs managing the team till seasons end scares the shít out of me.
That makes it even worse if true..

What is the point of an assistant manager if he's not doing anything?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 8:55am On Dec 24, 2015
PietroRico:
I doubt his part in it is of any real significance. I still have serious doubts about him sha.
The prospect of Giggs managing the team till seasons end scares the shít out of me.
Giggs don assist two managers(LVG season ending) right out of old trafford if we're ever going to get a new manager he should bring is own assistant.
LVG never really wanted Giggs,Kluivert na him assistant we just shove giggs down his throat.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 9:13am On Dec 24, 2015
SIRcumalot:
Giggs don assist two managers(LVG season ending) right out of old trafford if we're ever going to get a new manager he should bring is own assistant.
LVG never really wanted Giggs,Kluivert na him assistant we just shove giggs down his throat.
We find ourselves here partly cuz of sentiments! From Moyes to Phil Neville to Rooney to Giggs.
If Giggs want to be trusted as caretaker boss, my opinion is that he should be given the role early enough let's weigh his know-how & conclude if he'd ever be considered for the future or not.
These sentimental trial & errors should be done with this season IMO.

... & Rooney must not break record before his 'status' is noted, these sentiments will never put Man United on solid ground.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 10:39am On Dec 24, 2015
Nihilist:
That makes it even worse if true..

What is the point of an assistant manager if he's not doing anything?
so what does he do if he wants Gung ho football for instance , kick van Gaal's famous balls when van Gaal objects his proposition?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 10:42am On Dec 24, 2015
SIRcumalot:
Giggs don assist two managers(LVG season ending) right out of old trafford if we're ever going to get a new manager he should bring is own assistant.
LVG never really wanted Giggs,Kluivert na him assistant we just shove giggs down his throat.
yea.. He should go and get himself a job elsewhere to prove himself

For every Guardiola, there's an Enrique and many more Gary monks
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 11:46am On Dec 24, 2015
@all.
The coaching talent pool for soccer is not deep at all.
If we're even to make a big change Jose is the only manager wey dey market.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:56am On Dec 24, 2015
PietroRico:
not sure if u need weed for what you've been doing your entire life
Well, Damn!!

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sebod(m): 1:09pm On Dec 24, 2015
SIRcumalot:
@all.
The coaching talent pool for soccer is not deep at all.
If we're even to make a big change Jose is the only manager wey dey market.
When Barca wanted to replace Frank Rijkaard
After two trophyless season, same Jose was contacted and he really wanted the job against the fans' wish. Barca then opted for an inexperienced Pep (a Barca legend) and gave him every necessary support (he even got rid of the best players). He won it all in his 1st season and he's now wanted by every club. When he left, his assistant, Tito was chosen to take over. After another poor season under Tata, Barca again turned to one of her products, Enrique (who was just gathering experience) to take over. He has also won everything and will surely become a 'hot cake' when he leaves. The club is now known for raising both players and coaches.
Man U is a world class and highly rated club, the best in epl and one of the greatest in the world. I think the club can also try the Barca way and put trust in her products who aleady know the in and out of the club rather than looking for a world class coach who will bring his own philosophy.
#justmyopinion
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 1:34pm On Dec 24, 2015
^^^^^^^



This guy is right. but gigg is a HUGE gamble. a serious gamble that i doubt the board will love to take at this time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 1:41pm On Dec 24, 2015
sebod:
When Barca wanted to replace Frank Rijkaard
After two trophyless season, same Jose was contacted and he really wanted the job against the fans' wish. Barca then opted for an inexperienced Pep (a Barca legend) and gave him every necessary support (he even got rid of the best players). He won it all in his 1st season and he's now wanted by every club. When he left, his assistant, Tito was chosen to take over. After another poor season under Tata, Barca again turned to one of her products, Enrique (who was just gathering experience) to take over. He has also won everything and will surely become a 'hot cake' when he leaves. The club is now known for raising both players and coaches.
Man U is a world class and highly rated club, the best in epl and one of the greatest in the world. I think the club can also try the Barca way and put trust in her products who aleady know the in and out of the club rather than looking for a world class coach who will bring his own philosophy.
#justmyopinion
But Pep had a first hand experience with the Barcelona B team before coaching the main team. Enrique coached Roma and Celta before coaching Barcelona.

Giggs has no coaching experience. He may be an assistant coach, but he does not know what it takes to be THE MAN. He needs experience from anywhere; youth team, championship club, anywhere.

Giving Giggs the Man United job just because he grew up in the club is a NO NO...

EXPERIENCE is the word here.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sebod(m): 1:51pm On Dec 24, 2015
Debroslink:
But Pep had a first hand experience with the Barcelona B team before coaching the main team. Enrique coached Roma and Celta before coaching Barcelona.

Giggs has no coaching experience. He may be an assistant coach, but he does not know what it takes to be THE MAN. He needs experience from anywhere; youth team, championship club, anywhere.

Giving Giggs the Man United job just because he grew up in the club is a NO NO...

EXPERIENCE is the word here.
Barca made Pep the B coach, Man u can also do same to the selected few. I never said Gigs should be appointed, and I don think he's the only Man U product over the years. You and I know that Puyol, Xavi and co are still coming back to coach Barca.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 1:58pm On Dec 24, 2015
sebod:
When Barca wanted to replace Frank Rijkaard
After two trophyless season, same Jose was contacted and he really wanted the job against the fans' wish. Barca then opted for an inexperienced Pep (a Barca legend) and gave him every necessary support (he even got rid of the best players). He won it all in his 1st season and he's now wanted by every club. When he left, his assistant, Tito was chosen to take over. After another poor season under Tata, Barca again turned to one of her products, Enrique (who was just gathering experience) to take over. He has also won everything and will surely become a 'hot cake' when he leaves. The club is now known for raising both players and coaches.
Man U is a world class and highly rated club, the best in epl and one of the greatest in the world. I think the club can also try the Barca way and put trust in her products who aleady know the in and out of the club rather than looking for a world class coach who will bring his own philosophy.
#justmyopinion
And its a well thought one,
Pep and TiTo outstanding performance with your Barca B team aside that was a risky move that paid off well.
As you yourself mentioned already, Enrique found success with celta vigo and managed Roma for awhile,who have very demanding fans that is suitable preparation for a big job.
Truth is we blew all our goodwill with the Moyes appointment and haven't even recovered and we're not so patient anymore.
My personal love for Jose aside Klopp was the kind of Manager the fans would've gotten behind.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 2:50pm On Dec 24, 2015
SIRcumalot:
And its a well thought one,
Pep and TiTo outstanding performance with your Barca B team aside that was a risky move that paid off well.
As you yourself mentioned already, Enrique found success with celta vigo and managed Roma for awhile,who have very demanding fans that is suitable preparation for a big job.
Truth is we blew all our goodwill with the Moyes appointment and haven't even recovered and we're not so patient anymore.
My personal love for Jose aside Klopp was the kind of Manager the fans would've gotten behind.
It wasn't a risky move. Appointing Jose was a risky move. We had a philosophy, but Jose's philosophy was different. So we forgo his philosophy and embraced ours by appointing Pep. We had the players to execute our philosophy, and the rest is history.

Man Utd has a philosophy too. But looking @ your players, they aren't top quality compared to 2011 era and before. Any coach man utd appoints must go back to Man Utd's philosophy. Van Gaal has failed in doing so.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 3:23pm On Dec 24, 2015
Debroslink:
It wasn't a risky move. Appointing Jose was a risky move. We had a philosophy, but Jose's philosophy was different. So we forgo his philosophy and embraced ours by appointing Pep. We had the players to execute our philosophy, and the rest is history.

Man Utd has a philosophy too. But looking @ your players, they aren't top quality compared to 2011 era and before. Any coach man utd appoints must go back to Man Utd's philosophy. Van Gaal has failed in doing so.
You make this barca philosophy sound like wan religion that jose will soil by association.
Anyhow you be barca fan and na una get bragging right now.

I for one don't think man utd has any philosophy if Moyes won the league with his long ball style the management will be on their knees pleasuring the man right now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 4:02pm On Dec 24, 2015
I`ll prefer us taking that gamble on Giggs. He can`t be worst than Moyes and LVG. He knows the way we`ve played for so long (attacking football). He must have learnt some things from SAF over the years.
When Moyes was sacked, he was honest enough to say he wasn`t ready to take up the role of the manager of the team and that he still needs some other things to learn.
We also have Nicky Butt who has been the youth coach for like three years now. Nicky butt is also a Man Utd bred. Combination of the two isn`t going to be worst than what we have right now.

The only fear i had for Giggs before was how to handle transfers. Now i believe he should be experienced in that after paticipating in 2/3 tranfer windows.

This team only needs players being played in their proper position and buying/promoting more players to make the team large again to take care of injuries.

This slow build up possession is part of the problem of the team. Players need to move the ball quicker and faster than we do right now.

It`s my opinion.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 4:26pm On Dec 24, 2015
@tess1
I doubt Moyes would've admit to not being capable I would appreciate a link.

How is our youth team performing ? are they dominate the youth league or just treading water if the next manager is too Mirror Pep's rise.
Trust me Giggs handling the club now isn't good for anybody or else LVG will already get the axe.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 4:47pm On Dec 24, 2015
SIRcumalot:
@tess1
I doubt Moyes would've admit to not being capable I would appreciate a link.

How is our youth team performing ? are they dominate the youth league or just treading water if the next manager is too Mirror Pep's rise.
Trust me Giggs handling the club now isn't good for anybody or else LVG will already get the axe.
I didn`t say Moyes said so but Giggs.

We don`t have the kind of youth set up as they have in Spain where a B team can also patticipate in the lower division. Pep only coached the B team for a year in the fourth division before being appointed the Manager of Barca. What kind of experience would he have gained there? If he wasn`t appointed the then, he would`ve still been the youth manager and wouldn`t have had the chance to prove what he can do.

Just like i said earlier, it is of my opinion that Giggs and Butt wouldn`t have been worst that Moyes and LVG if given the opportunity now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:49pm On Dec 24, 2015
tess1:
I`ll prefer us taking that gamble on Giggs. He can`t be worst than Moyes and LVG. He knows the way we`ve played for so long (attacking football). He must have learnt some things from SAF over the years.
When Moyes was sacked, he was honest enough to say he wasn`t ready to take up the role of the manager of the team and that he still needs some other things to learn.
We also have Nicky Butt who has been the youth coach for like three years now. Nicky butt is also a Man Utd bred. Combination of the two isn`t going to be worst than what we have right now.

The only fear i had for Giggs before was how to handle transfers. Now i believe he should be experienced in that after paticipating in 2/3 tranfer windows.

This team only needs players being played in their proper position and buying/promoting more players to make the team large again to take care of injuries.

This slow build up possession is part of the problem of the team. Players need to move the ball quicker and faster than we do right now.

It`s my opinion.
Your opinion is deadly. Giggsy handled the team after Moyes left and there wasn't much difference. We shouldn't be too quick to thrust him into the spot. He needs some coaching experience first, not an assistant coaching one.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 5:01pm On Dec 24, 2015
Leyqute:
Your opinion is deadly. Giggsy handled the team after Moyes left and there wasn't much difference. We shouldn't be too quick to thrust him into the spot. He needs some coaching experience first, not an assistant coaching one.
Deadly? So you expected him to win all the four matches after Moyes` sack when all morales were down.
Where has LVG`s experience gotten us? I believe he should be ready now.
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