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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot:
SailorXY:
If there were similarities between SAF & Jose, the board could have given Jose the job long ago cuz I remember the man clearly open for the job.
Whatever caused him overlooked couldn't have changed in so short a span & that is why if he's considered three years late will be a clear indication that the board had/has no plan @ all.

The Arsenal you talk of never played better football than MUFC. Comparing their style to Barca those years is a mockery. What they mostly did was pass the aimlessly even in opposition box.
The last time we played in the FA Cup final saw United dominate from blast of the whistle till AET & that included bombardments of Lehmann's goal from all angles possible. I have never seen any better game to completely define an underserved loss!

SAF adapted to each game as they come depending on perceived strength & form. Pragmatic is a careless description. For example the 3-1 victory against Arsenal in the UCL was more of sit back & counter. The first leg was far from such approach & we earned the advantage of a victory & clean sheet from it.
The finals against Barca was a perfect stage to park the bus - SAF never did that even when it was clear to the world we stood very little chance.
Hubris killed us in our last two final against Barcelona the first one was forgivable we had Ronaldo the 2nd one not so much.

Ooh and against Barca in the semi finals of the 07/08 if you remember correctly we parked the bus both legs.
Their is another game against Arsenal, the one Pogba references as when he knew United was not for him SAF filled six defenders in that game despite having Pogba.

I think pragamatism is the right word to describe both of them,the Similarities are there if you look but you're not looking cause Jose make bile rise for your belle,But the board didn't make that decision SAF did and,we saw what a decent choice he made.

We'll need a third party to decide who plays better I think its arsenal what is the one complain of the arsenal fan ?
They have no plan B whatsoever that has change somewhat now. What is the one complain that Barca's have when teams shut up shop and they can get in ? they start screaming anti football and blaming grass length instead of trying another way.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by klarrychenko94: 2:31pm On Dec 25, 2015
leicester

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 2:35pm On Dec 25, 2015
bigkesh:
Hope u don't scream Jose during orgasm
Hahaha, I love Jose but I don't know why.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 2:41pm On Dec 25, 2015
SIRcumalot:
Hubris killed us in our last two final against Barcelona the first one was forgivable we had Ronaldo the 2nd one not so much.

Ooh and against Barca in the semi finals of the 07/08 if you remember correctly we parked the bus both legs.
Their is another game against Arsenal, the one Pogba references as when he knew United was not for him SAF filled six defenders in that game despite having Pogba.
I think pragamatism is the right word to describe both of them,the Similarities are there if you look but you're not looking cause Jose make bile rise for your belle.
But the board didn't make that decision SAF did and,we saw what a decent choice he made.
the Pogba reference was against a Yakubu inspired Blackburn side where he partnered J.S. Park and Rafeal in CM.. that game brought to end E.V.D. Saar's clean sheet record of 14games..
In truth, there's a Polar difference between Mou's style of play and SAF's style.
Mou is a 1:0 disciple while SAF is a 5:4 disciple and you can't achieve that "parking the bus" regularly like u make it seem..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 2:42pm On Dec 25, 2015
Spy360:
SAF always got the best of Arsene because he knew Arsene was obsessed with possession and attacking, so he sets up his teams to defend and counter.

BUT

SAF normal way of playing aside against Arsenal is a direct attacking pattern orchestrated from the wings. His best players have always operated from the wings (no 7, 11) - Beckham, Ronaldo, Giggs, etc

SAF is as pragmatic as Mou but their playing patterns are different. Mou is more interested in not conceding ie defending. He believes that if you don't concede you don't lose a game.

LVG's 3-5-2 system at the World Cup was quite effective, I thought he would keep RvP and get a partner (Depay) just as RvP paired with Robben as the mobile front two at the WC. But was surprised when he let RvP go and changed to a 4-3-3.

I think he could still play a front two of Martial and Depay with Rooney behind. Both are very fast and skillful, and if they blend effectively, Man Utd would have another deadly partnership strikeforce of the calibre of Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke.

From an Arsenal fan with love.
walahi, ds is the most sensible post from you since I started following this thread.
merry Christmas
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 2:50pm On Dec 25, 2015
Spy360:
SAF always got the best of Arsene because he knew Arsene was obsessed with possession and attacking, so he sets up his teams to defend and counter.

BUT

SAF normal way of playing aside against Arsenal is a direct attacking pattern orchestrated from the wings. His best players have always operated from the wings (no 7, 11) - Beckham, Ronaldo, Giggs, etc

SAF is as pragmatic as Mou but their playing patterns are different. Mou is more interested in not conceding ie defending. He believes that if you don't concede you don't lose a game.

LVG's 3-5-2 system at the World Cup was quite effective, I thought he would keep RvP and get a partner (Depay) just as RvP paired with Robben as the mobile front two at the WC. But was surprised when he let RvP go and changed to a 4-3-3.

I think he could still play a front two of Martial and Depay with Rooney behind. Both are very fast and skillful, and if they blend effectively, Man Utd would have another deadly partnership strikeforce of the calibre of Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke.

From an Arsenal fan with love.
How is he not interested in scoring he won, a UCL final by 3 goals to nothing, I think you've to come to the recent UCL game to see that much goal difference between winners and losers.
We saw how well is chelsea played in the first half of their title challenge,we watched his R.Madrid team P.S (he is still the only to have done it for madrid) through this Barca domination.
What about our last season as league winners when our best player was RVP or that Year Rooney went HAM ?
Or when Ronaldo and beckham left and giggs lost his pace moved to the midfield.
Am not saying we don't use wing we do(most times) but when that options is not available to us we find a way which was what really Made us special.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 2:59pm On Dec 25, 2015
chidexxy007:
the Pogba reference was against a Yakubu inspired Blackburn side where he partnered J.S. Park and Rafeal in CM.. that game brought to end E.V.D. Saar's clean sheet record of 14games..
In truth, there's a Polar difference between Mou's style of play and SAF's style.
Mou is a 1:0 disciple while SAF is a 5:4 disciple and you can't achieve that "parking the bus" regularly like u make it seem..
Honest, mistake but the arsenal game am talking about one of the da silva boys scored in that match.and I remember we played plenty defenders for that game.
Abeg explain that 1:0, 5:4 ratio disciple stuff I know sabi math.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 3:33pm On Dec 25, 2015
SIRcumalot:
How is he not interested in scoring he won, a UCL final by 3 goals to nothing, I think you've to come to the recent UCL game to see that much goal difference between winners and losers.
We saw how well is chelsea played in the first half of their title challenge,we watched his R.Madrid team P.S (he is still the only to have done it for madrid) through this Barca domination.
What about our last season as league winners when our best player was RVP or that Year Rooney went HAM ?
Or when Ronaldo and beckham left and giggs lost his pace moved to the midfield.
Am not saying we don't use wing we do(most times) but when that options is not available to us we find a way which was what really Made us special.
Don't get me wrong.

Chelsea on the first stanza of last season were more attacking, Fabregas getting the assists and Costa the goals, but we saw also that they conceded a lot of goals too. But Mou didn't like it and changed pattern during the second stanza; he asked Hazard and Fabregas to defend more. It worked. Though they scored less goals - Fab and Cos phased out, but conceded fewer and won the league.That's typical Jose.

Again that a team plays on counter attack doesn't mean they can't score plenty goals as Leicester has shown us this season. Leicester has scored more goals than any other PL team.

Mou's Porto was totally built as a counter attacking side as well with Deco, Maniche and Mendes running things. Their UCL final win over Monaco is a typical example where they scored all 3 from counter attacks.

I totally agree with your view on SAF.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 3:37pm On Dec 25, 2015
chidexxy007:
walahi, ds is the most sensible post from you since I started following this thread.
merry Christmas
Chai! See yapping.

cheesycheesycheesy
merry christmas. Enjoy your wine and mince pie.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 3:51pm On Dec 25, 2015
SIRcumalot:
Honest, mistake but the arsenal game am talking about one of the da silva boys scored in that match.and I remember we played plenty defenders for that game.
Abeg explain that 1:0, 5:4 ratio disciple stuff I know sabi math.
errm, dat should b d 2 nil f.a cup win, right?
as for d maths stuff, I was talking about scoreline not ratio ish...
Mou preferred defending deep and then counter when d opportunity arrives that was why most of his games ended 1 nil(as evident during his 1season @chelsea).
SAF preferred "I play my style, u play ur style" approach that's why United concedes more cos most of their games ended up in outscoring their opponents.. and that's why united is known as the comeback kings
shey u grab nw...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 3:55pm On Dec 25, 2015
Spy360:
Chai! See yapping.

cheesycheesycheesy
merry christmas. Enjoy your wine and mince pie.
no b like dat baba..
u too.
hope say una go give us Christmas present by losing to Southampton though..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hariorh: 4:13pm On Dec 25, 2015
How true?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 5:17pm On Dec 25, 2015
hariorh:
How true?
this is funny. Suits him,he still get mouth dey ask for apology. He was even saying if d press knew how we d fans felt. Feel for who
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 5:19pm On Dec 25, 2015
chidexxy007:
no b like dat baba..
u too.
hope say una go give us Christmas present by losing to Southampton though..
Hehehehe, as long as we win the league no problem.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 6:12pm On Dec 25, 2015
Just like some peeps here. Depay is a clown.


"I want to become a star. Failure is not an option. I want to aim as high as possible. I want to become the best player in the world"

Even Garba Lawal also had this dream. cheesy cheesy cheesy


Happy christmas guys.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 6:30pm On Dec 25, 2015
airmark:
Just like some peeps here. Depay is a clown.


"I want to become a star. Failure is not an option. I want to aim as high as possible. I want to become the best player in the world"

Even Garba Lawal also had this dream. cheesy cheesy cheesy

Happy christmas guys.
I think you are the clown for laughing at another man's aspirations, which is not even funny.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pelvicky(m): 6:44pm On Dec 25, 2015
airmark:
Just like some peeps here. Depay is a clown.


"I want to become a star. Failure is not an option. I want to aim as high as possible. I want to become the best player in the world"

Even Garba Lawal also had this dream. cheesy cheesy cheesy


Happy christmas guys.
Mario balotelli also had this dream
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi:
airmark:
Just like some peeps here. Depay is a clown.


"I want to become a star. Failure is not an option. I want to aim as high as possible. I want to become the best player in the world"

Even Garba Lawal also had this dream. cheesy cheesy cheesy


Happy christmas guys.
Ah! Yes, tell us more about ikebe super's dreams and how close he has been to achieving them
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 6:51pm On Dec 25, 2015
I'm of the opinion that Louis van Gaal should be allowed to see out the season so long he doesn't fall far behind the No. 1 spot and should be allowed to see out his contract only if he wins the league.

Ryan Giggs has no experience to lead for now.
The management should do all they can to sign Pep Guardiola ahead of Manchester City.

There has to be a change of fortune, and quickly!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 7:15pm On Dec 25, 2015
^^^
Hold laugh...

*coughs*
cheesy cheesy

ChristineC
That's harsh now...
Merry Christmas. Quite an age on the thread... *winks*
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 8:01pm On Dec 25, 2015
ChristineC:
I think you are the clown for laughing at another man's aspirations, which is not even funny.
Messi, C Ronaldo and co were ready to learn ,not playing rubbish at depay's age and were not disrepectful of the likes of ronaldinho, etoo , Giggs, ferdinand, as depay is going about with his arrogance while kicking balls into the sky at the moment. It's deep but you should grab it now. Depay is the clown here not me and not you cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 8:06pm On Dec 25, 2015
dopeJemi:
Ah! Yes, tell us more about ikebe super's dreams and how close he has been to achieving them
UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year: 2008–09, 2009–10
UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year : 2010–11, 2011–12
UNFP Player of the Month : March 2010, March 2011, March 2012
FWA Footballer of the Year : 2014–15
PFA Players' Player of the Year : 2014–15
PFA Young Player of the Year : 2013–14
Chelsea Player of the Year : 2013–14, 2014–15
Chelsea Players' Player of the Year : 2014–15
Premier League Player of the Season : 2014–15


He was the sixth best player in europe this year.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 8:07pm On Dec 25, 2015
ChristineC:
I think you are the clown for laughing at another man's aspirations, which is not even funny.
chai! see finishing! grin



airmark,does the name "depay" give you sleepless night?? undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 8:09pm On Dec 25, 2015
airmark:
Messi, C Ronaldo and co were ready to learn ,not playing rubbish at depay's age and were not disrepectful of the likes of ronaldinho, etoo , Giggs, ferdinand, as depay is going about with his arrogance while kicking balls into the sky at the moment. It's deep but you should grab it now. Depay is the clown here not me and not you cheesy cheesy cheesy
Hmmmmmmm
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 8:12pm On Dec 25, 2015
pelvicky:
Mario balotelli also had this dream
you are a clear case of what they called "plastics fan". i remembered clearly,you were once a man.united supporter. but when SAF left and moyes came in and the team started going on a downward spirall,you decamped to barca and start associating yourself with them because they are doing well now. smh.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 8:12pm On Dec 25, 2015
adebayo201:
^^^ Hold laugh...
*coughs* cheesy cheesy
ChristineC That's harsh now... Merry Christmas. Quite an age on the thread... *winks*
Same to you bros!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pelvicky(m): 8:13pm On Dec 25, 2015
airmark:
Messi, C Ronaldo and co were ready to learn ,not playing rubbish at depay's age and were not disrepectful of the likes of ronaldinho, etoo , Giggs, ferdinand, as depay is going about with his arrogance while kicking balls into the sky at the moment. It's deep but you should grab it now. Depay is the clown here not me and not you cheesy cheesy cheesy
na ego go kill d guy....


he thought he is already a star whereas he is not even a cloud
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 8:13pm On Dec 25, 2015
Danhumprey:
chai! see finishing! grin



airmark,does the name "depay" give you sleepless night?? undecided
It can only give me sleepless nights if i am a man utd fan. He is the most exciting player in man utd at the moment. He makes funny moves/decisions.


pelvicky:
na ego go kill d guy....
he thought he is already a star whereas he is not even a cloud
Imagine the kind of shots he fired at van persie? The moment he started asking for private theatre in manchester, i knew man utd don buy market.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BarcaBlood: 8:20pm On Dec 25, 2015
Danhumprey:
you are a clear case of what they called "plastics fan". i remembered clearly,you were once a man.united supporter. but when SAF left and moyes came in and the team started going on a downward spirall,you decamped to barca and start associating yourself with them because they are doing well now. smh.
Lmao grin grin why evils

Its not a crime 2 join d winning team now is it
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 8:24pm On Dec 25, 2015
airmark:
It can only give me sleepless nights if i am a man utd fan. He is the most exciting player in man utd at the moment. He makes funny moves/decisions.




Imagine the kind of shots he fired at van persie? The moment he started asking for private theatre in manchester, i knew man utd don buy market.
depay doesn't give us sleepless night,atleast not me. i am not the kind of person that lose confidence in a promising player too easily and quickly when that player is going through a difficult time.


will depay be a world-class player? i can't really say for now.

does he have the talents to succeed? yes,he does. but only time will tell what becomes of him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 8:26pm On Dec 25, 2015
airmark:
UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year: 2008–09, 2009–10
UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year : 2010–11, 2011–12
UNFP Player of the Month : March 2010, March 2011, March 2012
FWA Footballer of the Year : 2014–15
PFA Players' Player of the Year : 2014–15
PFA Young Player of the Year : 2013–14
Chelsea Player of the Year : 2013–14, 2014–15
Chelsea Players' Player of the Year : 2014–15
Premier League Player of the Season : 2014–15


He was the sixth best player in europe this year.
I've changed my specs so many times just trynna find where he won "best player in the world"

If these are his dreams, then mediocrity rains all over him
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 8:34pm On Dec 25, 2015
Merry Christmas to all Man Utd fans. Including the most pathetic and obsessed Depay fan of all airmark.

Here's hoping Santa bring us 6 points in the next 2 matches.
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