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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 11:21am On Dec 30, 2015
If you create this thread to mock on Us, then u must be a joker.. Asin am happy the crude is fading away.. atleast East , West And North go let us be.. Wenti na.. una 1 pest us die, #Parasites

cry not for us.. Cry for your poverty unfertile land..

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by asorocker: 11:21am On Dec 30, 2015
abduljabbar4:

I dont even know where to start from, but Can you tell me why you think Kano doesnt have human capital along with other north-western states? The last time i checked, they were there before the coming of oil.

Just a little explanation would do. I dont want to start long arguments
First kano started off as a very big city of Commerce. The first plane landed in kano.
But what do we have today, kano has not maintained the position of city of Commerce.

A look at the Igr of kano is discouraging at barely N13b per annum which is below the expected threshold.
Kano doesn't measure of in the academic world too as kano ranks very low despite its huge population.

Kano does not have any industrial hub functioning as the textile industry is gone. Kano populace are not schooled in the business of entrepreneurship. Now for kano to generate enough revenue to fund its recurrent expenditure which is more than N6b it would go for broke.
Kano budgeted N219b with recurrent of N70b and capital N148, meanwhile the igr of kano was just N13b for 2014
Which can not even fund the recurrent for 2 months

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by MrAnalyst: 11:22am On Dec 30, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
So just because they are not joining in your fruitless biafra,you wish them evil abi?.......biafrans leave ss alone!!!!........before oyel discovery they survived,after oyel they will survive......paddle your canoe!!

I think you shouldn't derail the thread. The question is-how will the Niger-Delta cope if the oil prices continue to dwindle

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by explorer250(m): 11:22am On Dec 30, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
So just because they are not joining in your fruitless biafra,you wish them evil abi?.......biafrans leave ss alone!!!!........before oyel discovery they survived,after oyel they will survive......paddle your canoe!!

Dont bring biafra to this. The thread is never about biafra.
It is about the future of Niger delta, of which i am, which has been brutally raped by the Nigerian state. A great percentage of our means of survival has been destroyed and would cost a fortune to restore.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 11:22am On Dec 30, 2015
abduljabbar4:

I dont even know where to start from, but Can you tell me why you think Kano doesnt have human capital along with other north-western states? The last time i checked, they were there before the coming of oil.

Just a little explanation would do. I dont want to start long arguments


Slavery was officially declared illegal in Islamic northern Nigeria as late as 1933.

This is despite the fact that the British Crown had abolished slavery over 150 yrs prior.

The British met a well entrenched slave based economy in the north and seemed hapless to stop constant slave raids by the Hausa Fulani in and around the middle belt.

Towns like Suleja where setup as slave raiding centers by the Muslim north in conjunction with Arab slavers.

The twin towns Abuja and Suleja where named after two Arab slave raiders , Abu and Suleiman.

In that same Suleja, the hills and their natural caves served as refuge by the indegonoius Gwari people who fled to them to avoid capture.

The slaves where transported to Kano and other slave markets in the Moslem north where a vast majority where sold in the trans Saharan slave trade while some ended up as domestic servants, field hands or sex concubines.

The groundnut pyramids you used to hear of where based on slave labour.

The British tolerated it because the Northern Muslim oligarchs where making them rich.

The House of Dantata are prime example of this dark past of slavery in the north.

They traded slave labored produce to the British and distributed finished goods in return.

This is why you will never see or hear of groundnut pyramids ever again.

This also applies to the much touted cocoa glory days in the SW. The Agbekoya Parapo uprising ended an exploitative plantation model.

This is why Tajus are not farming cocoa anymore.


Till this day a form of indentured slavery still exists in the north.

Widespread ignorance and lack of basic education has made the majority of northerners unemployable unless has field hands.

This is the reason the northern elite will never truly invest in education in the north. A vast majority of the northern illiterate population are actually descendants of slaves.

This is why a hereditary and class rotational monarchy still exist in the Islamic north even though Islam forbids it.

This is why the Maitassine class revolution was viciously put down and similarly why the Shiites have been widely condemned by the Emirates.

El Zackzacky was always preaching against this class divide and had several runnings with the Emir of Zazau.

Ironically, the same descendants of slaves living in bondage to the descendants of their ancestors' slave masters are now fighting in the NE to bring about this class society based on an inhumane doctrine of subservience and submission in the guise of religion of peace.

God dey.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by explorer250(m): 11:23am On Dec 30, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
So just because they are not joining in your fruitless biafra,you wish them evil abi?.......biafrans leave ss alone!!!!........before oyel discovery they survived,after oyel they will survive......paddle your canoe!!

Dont bring biafra to this. The thread is never about biafra.
It is about the future of Niger delta, of which i am, which has been brutally raped by the Nigerian state. A great percentage of our means of survival has been destroyed and would cost a fortune to restore.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:24am On Dec 30, 2015
explorer250:


[s]And i hope you have a boundry definition of what you call Niger Delta. The oil politics that divided igboland will soon be over and the boundry between igboland and your Niger delta(mainly ijaws) will be drawn.

I thank God my people has always been proud of their igboness despite being in Rivers state. The future holds good for us as igbos with the help of our naturally endowed "survival instincts/spirit"

we are developing.
We are expanding.
We are progressing.

Lest i forget. Obigbo is the satelite town of porthacourt. We are doing Good Infrastructurally and otherwise.
What does the future hold for polluted ijaw land?

Wasnt igboland producing palm oil?

Dont igboland have a seaport at porthacourt?

Somalia has the longest coastline in africa but where are they?

Doesnt igboland have more gas reserves and solid minerals than ijaw land?

Dont we have the human resource?

You once said that igbos lack bargaining chips, so what will be your peoples bargaining chips when pure water is more costly than toxic crude?

We are majorities, we can never loose in this game just like the yorubas and hausas though we have our political differences with them. Minority will always remain minority, they will continue to be pawns in the cheese board of Nigeria

You know what? Euro.bomber was right![/s]
No INCH of Rivers state is Igbo! Get used to it or Go and "you know the rest"


PS: You are NOT from Rivers state. I've seen lots of impostors already!




Bye-byeeeeeeeeeeee grin

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by MrAnalyst: 11:24am On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:

First kano started off as a very big city of Commerce. The first plane landed in kano.
But what do we have today, kano has not maintained the position of city of Commerce.

A look at the Igr of kano is discouraging at barely N13b per annum which is below the expected threshold.
Kano doesn't measure of in the academic world too as kano ranks very low despite its huge population.

Kano does not have any industrial hub functioning as the textile industry is gone. Kano populace are not schooled in the business of entrepreneurship. Now for kano to generate enough revenue to fund its recurrent expenditure which is more than N6b it would go for broke.
Kano budgeted N219b with recurrent of N70b and capital N148, meanwhile the igr of kano was just N13b for 2014
Which can not even fund the recurrent for 2 months

He won't admit to these "truths".
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by omowolewa: 11:25am On Dec 30, 2015
All regoins will survive, at least to the extent of their hard work.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 11:27am On Dec 30, 2015
MrAnalyst:


I think you shouldn't derail the thread. The question is-how will the Niger-Delta cope if the oil prices continue to dwindle

The question ought to be "how will states like Oun cope?"


The ND will still get more revenue from oil than Osun.

So never mind about us, go and ask your rascal governor why monthly allocations from Abuja are now jus 55 million naira.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by juman(m): 11:29am On Dec 30, 2015
Rather what next for nigeria?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Enahi(f): 11:30am On Dec 30, 2015
masterpower:
You should ask yourself What Next For THE CRIMINAL Southwest AND THEIR FULANI SLAVE MASTERS?

THAT IS WHY WE TOLD YOU PEOPLE THAT B.1.A.F.R.A IS NOT ABOUT CRUDE OIL BUT ABOUT addressing THE WICKEDNESS OF THE CRIMINAL/ROGUE COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA.

THE IGBOS ARE DOING WONDERS WITHOUT OIL.

Stop been a dumbass and reason with your brain for once.

The op wasn't reffering to the East here, what has igbo got to do with Niger Delta?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by MrAnalyst: 11:36am On Dec 30, 2015
omowolewa:
All regoins will survive, at least to the extent of their hard work.

I love this answer. Simple and direct.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Ugomba(m): 11:39am On Dec 30, 2015
And what did Our Niger Delta governors do with the huge allocation given to them when a barrel of oil was $100?.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by MrAnalyst: 11:39am On Dec 30, 2015
APChangeZombie:


The question ought to be "how will states like Oun cope?"


The ND will still get more revenue from oil than Osun.

So never mind about us, go and ask your rascal governor why monthly allocations from Abuja are now jus 55 million naira.

Lol. Man you're funny. Why would you think I'm from Osun? Aregbesola is not my governor. Please aim right.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 11:39am On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:


Please we are all here to learn and share ideas can you bring your arguments so that it can be analyzed.


He is analyzing ur sentiments and you are complaining,truth be told what you wrote up there was trash.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by babyfaceafrica: 11:40am On Dec 30, 2015
explorer250:


Dont bring biafra to this. The thread is never about biafra.
It is about the future of Niger delta, of which i am, which has been brutally raped by the Nigerian state.
who you wan deceive,I can see through your antics!!!!

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by babyfaceafrica: 11:42am On Dec 30, 2015
MrAnalyst:


I think you shouldn't derail the thread. The question is-how will the Niger-Delta cope if the oil prices continue to dwindle
derail gini?......dey there naw.......na kid you dey talk to here,you just want to make fun of ss,and it aint gonna work!!!!

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 11:47am On Dec 30, 2015
MrAnalyst:


Lol. Man you're funny. Why would you think I'm from Osun? Aregbesola is not my governor. Please aim right.


Every other state that solely depends on oil receipt is no different from Osun.

Every state will have a big slice of their allocations cut but that will not make them in anyway better than the ND.

If Bayelsa with a population of 800,000 earned at one time 6 bn monthly and osun with a population of 4million earned 2bn which is richer?

Now make a 50% cut in both their allocation ... Does that make Bayelsa poorer than Osun?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by MrAnalyst: 11:48am On Dec 30, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
derail gini?......dey there naw.......na kid you dey talk to here,you just want to make fun of ss,and it aint gonna work!!!!

No Niger-Deltan has said anybody is making fun of them. We're asking for contributions not ethnic-laced jibes.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by explorer250(m): 11:48am On Dec 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

No INCH of Rivers state is Igbo! Get used to it or Go and "you know the rest"


PS: You are NOT from Rivers state. I've seen lots of impostors already!




Bye-byeeeeeeeeeeee grin

let me tell you something. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME and i wont start proving my origin to you,it only depicts inferiority and your thoughts about my origin doesnt count because your are INCONSEQUENTIAL. And your rants cant stop ndokis and others from being igbo. Do you know what "OBIGBO" means in english? THE HEART OF IGBO LAND/PEOPLE.
Bro, we are proud and not ashamed of our heritage. The people with the brightest IQ in the continent.
AS I HAVE ALWAYS TOLD YOU(OBIGBO)NDOKIS ARE NOT IJAWS. We are not ijaws we are igbo and are proud of it, carry your expantionist agenda to IBENO.

NB: I HAVE ALSO SEEN/BURSTED PEOPLE OF YOUR KIND, HOW ARE MY SURE YOU ARE NOT YORUBA?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 11:50am On Dec 30, 2015
Ugomba:
And what did Our Niger Delta governors do with the huge allocation given to them when a barrel of oil was $100?.

And what foolishness made the APC controlled SW to borrow recklessly based on this benchmark?

You assume only ND collected allocation from this wealth source.

A state like Osun that for three years straight operated a 500% deficit budget nko?


The ND may have squandered theirs but some parasitic entities indebted themselves over it.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Anticabal: 11:52am On Dec 30, 2015
Bryan37:

On point bro

Igbos re doing wonders without Oil

D way things are going, NIGER DELTA REPUBLIC will be voluntarily handed to them cos they will be so parasitic and lazy @ d same time.

Our oyel, our oyel

NORTH has played dre card so well divide and rule them, them named them NIGER DELTA/SS just to make sure they don't align with another major tribe.

E go do them boom Na Anya.


Our oyel pple

I must confess, the north really dealt us a serious blow in the Nigerdelta. Imagine the way they sustained the divide-and rule game in the east and demonizing the SE Ibos in the eyes of their cousins as they the SE Ibo toiled hard to regain all they lost in the war. At the same time promoting 'one north'. I pity any of us in the Nigerdelta still shouting 'our oyel'. Who will clean up our region now? Biafra?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 11:54am On Dec 30, 2015
explorer250:


let me tell you something. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME and i wont start proving my origin to you,it only depicts inferiority and your thoughts about my origin doesnt count because we are your are INCONSEQUENTIAL. And your rants cant stop ndokis and others from being igbo. Do you know what "OBIGBO" means in english? THE HEART OF IGBO LAND/PEOPLE.
Bro, we are proud and not ashamed of our heritage. The people with the brightest IQ in the continent.
AS I HAVE ALWAYS TOLD YOU(OBIGBO)NDOKIS ARE NOT IJAWS. We are not ijaws we are igbo and are proud of it, carry your expantionist agenda to IBENO.

NB: I HAVE ALSO SEEN/BURSTED PEOPLE OF YOUR KIND, HOW ARE MY SURE YOU ARE NOT YORUBA?


Ignore the fool.

Since 1999 an Igbiod tribe (Ikweres) have been ruling Rivers.

Sometimes my Ijaw brothers reason with their anus.

How can the Ikwere who speak an Igbo dialect bear Igbo names and share a lot of similarities in culture be classified as non Igbo ?


This is like saying the Aworis or Ilajes are not Yoruba because they have a different dialect?

If the Yorubas insist that Asaba people and Ikweres are not Ibos then also the Itsekiris in Warri can never be linked to the Yoruba.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by MrAnalyst: 11:54am On Dec 30, 2015
explorer250:


let me tell you something. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME and i wont start proving my origin to you,it only depicts inferiority and your thoughts about my origin doesnt count because we are your are INCONSEQUENTIAL. And your rants cant stop ndokis and others from being igbo. Do you know what "OBIGBO" means in english? THE HEART OF IGBO LAND/PEOPLE.
Bro, we are proud and not ashamed of our heritage. The people with the brightest IQ in the continent.
AS I HAVE ALWAYS TOLD YOU(OBIGBO)NDOKIS ARE NOT IJAWS. We are not ijaws we are igbo and are proud of it, carry your expantionist agenda to IBENO.

NB: I HAVE ALSO SEEN/BURSTED PEOPLE OF YOUR KIND, HOW ARE MY SURE YOU ARE NOT YORUBA?

I wanted to talk but I decided to ignore barcanista. A word is enough for the wise.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Amberon: 11:56am On Dec 30, 2015
point of correction. We are not lazy. You say the ND is underdeveloped but is still 20 years ahead of the SE. And in The SW, only Lagos can compete with PH, Delta, or Akwa ibom. you should worry about your region first. Niger Delta will always prevail.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Amberon: 12:00pm On Dec 30, 2015
I'm really tired of these people.
Goodboiyy:
If you create this thread to mock on Us, then u must be a joker.. Asin am happy the crude is fading away.. atleast East , West And North go let us be.. Wenti na.. una 1 pest us die, #Parasites

cry not for us.. Cry for your poverty unfertile land..

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 12:09pm On Dec 30, 2015
MrAnalyst:


I wanted to talk but I decided to ignore barcanista. A word is enough for the wise.


The man is slow.

He is yet to wake up.

It is people like him that betray the Niger Delta without knowing it.

The man was as at early as January this year a staunch change chanting zombie.

He only left after Gbawe exposed his hustle.

This is the problem I have with the ND. They never for once think of their future in the long term and are now so used to collecting peanuts.

Thank God we still have the likes of Asari and Tompolo who can still be milking the system and fighting for ND rights.

Send an Invite to Barcanista from liar Mohamed's office for him to come visit next week Monday and watch him change back to his zombie ways immediately.

I wonder how you can tolerate the Yorubas mockery and Hausa Fulani pillaging but hate the igbos who leave and work among us in peace?

Niger Delta must not continue believing the Nigeria Army propaganda from the Biafran war.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 12:09pm On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:

Now for kano to generate enough revenue to fund its recurrent expenditure which is more than N6b it would go for broke.
Kano budgeted N219b with recurrent of N70b and capital N148, meanwhile the igr of kano was just N13b for 2014
Which can not even fund the recurrent for 2 months


Pls shut up ,how many states can run their recurrent expenditure just on igr?, less than 7.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by babyfaceafrica: 12:15pm On Dec 30, 2015
Goodboiyy:
If you create this thread to mock on Us, then u must be a joker.. Asin am happy the crude is fading away.. atleast East , West And North go let us be.. Wenti na.. una 1 pest us die, #Parasites

cry not for us.. Cry for your poverty unfertile land..
no mind them...just ignore them!!!!

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kayfra: 12:16pm On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:
The decline of the oil industry is going to be worse on the states of Lagos and kano.

Lagos because an analysis of the igr of Lagos shows that Lagos derived it's revenue from the income tax and the income tax bulk is from the oil workers whose offices are in Lagos.
The oil and gas component of the Lagos igr is more than 40% of the igr. Income tax paid by high earning oil and gas industry executive who gross average of N5m monthly has helped Lagos


Secondly kano will be the worst hit as the only state whose take home is equivalent to the take home of niger delta states with their 13% derivative.

Kano doesn't have the human capital to generate income tax.

Third state /city is Abuja. It is said that Abuja was built with oil money, where would the money to sustain and maintain Abuja come from if not the same money from niger delta.

Some states like kwara, benue, adamawa can easily with agriculture fight the downturn of their economy, how would sokoto, yobe, jigawa whose populace don't farm and whose land is far from economic centres for export of agricultural products survive.

The next in line are the hausa cities of katsina, batching, kaduna who benefitted from the lopsided federal allocations. Now that the oil wealth is going and there is no human capital we hope they will not turn to insurgency as a means of raising attention and revenue.

The states that would enjoy and be kings in the new dispensation.

Anambra, Nigeria's brain box and commercial hub will have its non oil economy growth unequalled and unrivaled. Anambra survived with no oil allocation managed the little it had and built an enabling environment for investments.

Akwa Ibom, this state was blessed with resources and good managers who used it very well to grow infrastructure and are currently working on a sea port.

Abia this state hosts aba, Nigeria's city of enterprise and football, aba is living beyond oil already.

Why do you think Lekki Free Trade zone is being built or the Lagos State Deep Sea Port #4 or Eko Atlantic or the 600,000 BPD Dangote refinery?

Lagos State has vision and foresight with the economy rivaled only with countries. As long as it has a huge population all Lagos has to do is execute on going projects.

Same can be said for Kano. The people that will feel the impact are businesses and regions that are solely based on importation of finished goods. With the dollar rationalization and import limits, they will have to look elsewhere.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by APChangeZombie: 12:19pm On Dec 30, 2015
kayfra:


Why do you think Lekki Free Trade zone is being built or the Lagos State Deep Sea Port #4 or Eko Atlantic or the 600,000 BPD Dangote refinery?

Lagos State has vision and foresight with the economy rivaled only with countries. As long as it has a huge population all Lagos has to do is execute on going projects.


The same population that you guys said was slowing down Lagos ? And to which you justified depopulating Lagos via illegal deportations?


Typical change mouthers

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