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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by MrAnalyst: 1:53pm On Dec 30, 2015
omonnakoda:
That is your own perception.You folk alway delude yourselves you are better than everyone else.
Are you more of a hustler than the Fulani who walks from Sokoto to PH with his cows facing hostile humans and beasts on the way? Leave that self indulgent Ibo tale for your village entertainment. Everyone hustles in the way that they have aptitude for. The fact of the matter is the greatest economic activity in Nigeria today more than oil or anything else is agriculture. That is an indisputable fact. Now what do Ibos contribute to agriculture in Nigeria? Instead you continue making empty boasts about how Onitsha market is the largest in the Milky Wayand the US Army buys drones there.

Once again Agriculture accounts for more than 70% of Nigerian economy .What is the Ibo contribution?

Questionable comments. Based on what survey,study or statistical data do you base the conclusion that the Nigerian economy depends on Agriculture,up to 70%?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kayfra: 1:54pm On Dec 30, 2015
APChangeZombie:


And you will later condemn Trump for wanting to build a wall between the US and Mexico

What does Trump have to do with anything? American economy relies heavily on the backs of immigrants both legal and illegal. Immigrants anywhere are hardworking and they contribute but they are mostly criminals when you find them in big cities such as Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco etc. In those cities the competition is more qualitative, based on intellectual capacity, which an illegal immigrant, probably intelligent, but not equipped with the right educational qualifications and class structure to compete in. So you find them resorting to organized crime and theft.

Ask any American if they will complain about illegal immigration only if all illegal immigrants stay in the farmlands; tilling the land and producing cash crops or if they only hide in the shadows of construction business!


But let's not get sidetracked. This is not about America.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by asorocker: 2:01pm On Dec 30, 2015
jstbeinhonest:



He is analyzing ur sentiments and you are complaining,truth be told what you wrote up there was trash.


The budget of Enugu state is N99
N39.4 B is for recurrent expenditure while the IGR is N20b, which makes Enugu state more prepared to exit any financial difficulties arising from oil price crash.
Enugu gets little or nothing from federal allocation.
With removal of ghosts workers and prudent reorganization of its structure Enugu doesn't need niger delta oil money.

The budget of Ebonyi is N99
N35.b is for recurrent expenditure while IGR is N17b

With more investment in agriculture and cement manufacture Ebonyi is as good as an independent state independent of Oil allocation.
These 2 states received the lowest allocations from the federal government in their skewed revenue allocation formula but today they are having the Last laugh.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by asorocker: 2:04pm On Dec 30, 2015
omonnakoda:
That is your own perception.You folk alway delude yourselves you are better than everyone else.
Are you more of a hustler than the Fulani who walks from Sokoto to PH with his cows facing hostile humans and beasts on the way? Leave that self indulgent Ibo tale for your village entertainment. Everyone hustles in the way that they have aptitude for. The fact of the matter is the greatest economic activity in Nigeria today more than oil or anything else is agriculture. That is an indisputable fact. Now what do Ibos contribute to agriculture in Nigeria? Instead you continue making empty boasts about how Onitsha market is the largest in the Milky Wayand the US Army buys drones there.

Once again Agriculture accounts for more than 70% of Nigerian economy .What is the Ibo contribution?

Agriculture doesn't not account for that much of the economy other wise farmers would have been controlling the economies of Nigerian states.
Agriculture is good but not earning much revenue due to economies of scale

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by lawrenceunaa: 2:05pm On Dec 30, 2015
omonnakoda:
Yes we told them that Boko Haram is not about crude oil but the CRIMINAL/ROGUE COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA. Boko Haram are doing wonders ..........
Eboes doing wonders with drugs and baby factories? Cannot build Niger Bridge,cannot solve erosion

Eboes deceiving themselves since 1759
have u solve brown zinc/ roofs angry
Upon all the money ur fake leaders stole yet their roof top remained brown shocked

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by MrAnalyst: 2:08pm On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:


Agriculture doesn't not account for that much of the economy other wise farmers would have been controlling the economies of Nigerian states.
Agriculture is good but not earning much revenue due to economies of scale

His claim on Agriculture was the biggest lie ever but as always I politely asked him to back it up. I'm still waiting for his proof.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kayfra: 2:09pm On Dec 30, 2015
lawrenceunaa:
have u solve brown zinc/ roofs angry
Upon all the money ur fake leaders stole yet their roof top remained brown shocked

Brown roofs is our rustic charm. Keeping our sense of ancient and continous civilization in the SW. wink

You don't See Rome, London, Paris, Timbuktu etc destroying their ancient buildings.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by omonnakoda: 2:12pm On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:


Agriculture doesn't not account for that much of the economy other wise farmers would have been controlling the economies of Nigerian states.
Agriculture is good but not earning much revenue due to economies of scale
Agriculture is not just farming or farmers It goes way beyond that. I cannot make any sense of your comment "otherwise they would be controlling.........." that seems like a meaningless and childish remark. What exactly does "controlling economy" mean can you break that down?

Agriculture has been reckoned to account from 35-70 % of Nigeria's GDP according to various sources,depending on methodology and time i.e pre and post rebasing 2013/14. In every series it has accounted for at least twice as much as oil and even more depending on methodology and whether items such as forestries and agro=allied value addition are added.
Whichever sector it is that dominates in any country I am no familiar with this concept of "controlling the economy" that you introduce here as evidence for anything. What does it look like and how do we recognize it

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Dedetwo(m): 2:13pm On Dec 30, 2015
kayfra:


What does Trump have to do with anything? American economy relies heavily on the backs of immigrants both legal and illegal. Immigrants anywhere are hardworking and they contribute but they are mostly criminals when you find them in big cities such as Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco etc. In those cities the competition is more qualitative, based on intellectual capacity, which an illegal immigrant, probably intelligent, but not equipped with the right educational qualifications and class structure to compete in. So you find them resorting to organized crime and theft.

Ask any American if they will complain about illegal immigration only if all illegal immigrants stay in the farmlands; tilling the land and producing cash crops or if they only hide in the shadows of construction business!


But let's not get sidetracked. This is not about America.

Per the bolded, this is a political misconception encouraged by the liberal wing of USA society. USA economy will not notice a dent if all immigrants are shutout.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by hoobs(m): 2:15pm On Dec 30, 2015
Psylas:
They will go back to fishing, the igbos saw this coming but the ND fall our hand


the North won't give a fuc.k about them
fishing for which water?,the contaminated ones?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kayfra: 2:15pm On Dec 30, 2015
Dedetwo:


Per the bolded, this is a political misconception encouraged by the liberal wing of USA society. USA economy will not notice a dent if all immigrants are shutout.

Lolz. I laugh in swahili but will end this line of argument not to side track the thread.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 2:16pm On Dec 30, 2015
asorocker:



The budget of Enugu state is N99
N39.4 B is for recurrent expenditure while the IGR is N20b, which makes Enugu state more prepared to exit any financial difficulties arising from oil price crash.
Enugu gets little or nothing from federal allocation.
With removal of ghosts workers and prudent reorganization of its structure Enugu doesn't need niger delta oil money.

The budget of Ebonyi is N99
N35.b is for recurrent expenditure while IGR is N17b

With more investment in agriculture and cement manufacture Ebonyi is as good as an independent state independent of Oil allocation.
These 2 states received the lowest allocations from the federal government in their skewed revenue allocation formula but today they are having the Last laugh.



These two states still have their recurrent expenditure larger than their IGR,i wonder how the likes of ph and lag are more hit than them.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Dedetwo(m): 2:27pm On Dec 30, 2015
omonnakoda:
That is your own perception.You folk alway delude yourselves you are better than everyone else.
Are you more of a hustler than the Fulani who walks from Sokoto to PH with his cows facing hostile humans and beasts on the way?
Leave that self indulgent Ibo tale for your village entertainment. Everyone hustles in the way that they have aptitude for. The fact of the matter is the greatest economic activity in Nigeria today more than oil or anything else is agriculture. That is an indisputable fact. Now what do Ibos contribute to agriculture in Nigeria? Instead you continue making empty boasts about how Onitsha market is the largest in the Milky Wayand the US Army buys drones there.

Once again Agriculture accounts for more than 70% of Nigerian economy .What is the Ibo contribution?

Per the bolded, if the people are so deluded one wonders where is the source of fear that grips most Nigerians on the slightest hint that Biafrans want to leave Nigeria. Most Nigerians are deadly dishonest and it makes one of the reasons Nigeria is perpetually backward. Have you be kicked out of sanitarium hence vomiting this crap on NL?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by adino(m): 2:29pm On Dec 30, 2015
abduljabbar4:


Arent you feeling ashamed of this transparent display of stupidity? Sentiments wont take you anywhere


Jaanjaweed! Always barking,cursing and looking for blood to spill. This is a thread of common sense, Contribute by stating sound opinion if you have any.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by meccuno: 2:31pm On Dec 30, 2015
APChangeZombie:



Slavery was officially declared illegal in Islamic northern Nigeria as late as 1933.

This is despite the fact that the British Crown had abolished slavery over 150 yrs prior.

The British met a well entrenched slave based economy in the north and seemed hapless to stop constant slave raids by the Hausa Fulani in and around the middle belt.

Towns like Suleja where setup as slave raiding centers by the Muslim north in conjunction with Arab slavers.

The twin towns Abuja and Suleja where named after two Arab slave raiders , Abu and Suleiman.

In that same Suleja, the hills and their natural caves served as refuge by the indegonoius Gwari people who fled to them to avoid capture.

The slaves where transported to Kano and other slave markets in the Moslem north where a vast majority where sold in the trans Saharan slave trade while some ended up as domestic servants, field hands or sex concubines.

The groundnut pyramids you used to hear of where based on slave labour.

The British tolerated it because the Northern Muslim oligarchs where making them rich.

The House of Dantata are prime example of this dark past of slavery in the north.

They traded slave labored produce to the British and distributed finished goods in return.

This is why you will never see or hear of groundnut pyramids ever again.

This also applies to the much touted cocoa glory days in the SW. The Agbekoya Parapo uprising ended an exploitative plantation model.

This is why Tajus are not farming cocoa anymore.


Till this day a form of indentured slavery still exists in the north.

Widespread ignorance and lack of basic education has made the majority of northerners unemployable unless has field hands.

This is the reason the northern elite will never truly invest in education in the north. A vast majority of the northern illiterate population are actually descendants of slaves.

This is why a hereditary and class rotational monarchy still exist in the Islamic north even though Islam forbids it.

This is why the Maitassine class revolution was viciously put down and similarly why the Shiites have been widely condemned by the Emirates.

El Zackzacky was always preaching against this class divide and had several runnings with the Emir of Zazau.

Ironically, the same descendants of slaves living in bondage to the descendants of their ancestors' slave masters are now fighting in the NE to bring about this class society based on an inhumane doctrine of subservience and submission in the guise of religion of peace.

God dey.
you have just enlightened me......big ups!!

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kernel501: 2:35pm On Dec 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Niger Delta is very rich. Before crude oil we were rich in palm oil. In fact, we were called Oil Rivers(Rivers, Warri and Bayelsa states) for a reason. We have rich lland for agriculture and our waters were used for fishing. Though our land and waters have been polluted due to oil exploration. We are rich in gas with abundant gas reserve. Whether oil become worthless or not we won't suffer. We will only adjust.


Most importantly, we have access to see and can easily capitalised on it.


@OP cry not for the Niger Delta. We will do just fine!

OUR NIGER DELTA BROTHERS, WE (IGBOS) WILL RATHER BUY YOUR FARM PRODUCTS... WE ARE ONE.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kernel501: 2:39pm On Dec 30, 2015
omonnakoda:
Yes we told them that Boko Haram is not about crude oil but the CRIMINAL/ROGUE COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA. Boko Haram are doing wonders ..........
Eboes doing wonders with drugs and baby factories? Cannot build Niger Bridge,cannot solve erosion

Eboes deceiving themselves since 1759

IS THAT WHY WASTE IS BLESSED WITH BROWN ZINCS, RITUAL KILLINGS AND DEBTS?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Nobody: 2:42pm On Dec 30, 2015
The next war will be ND fighting vigorously for the unity of Nigeria.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by OreMI22: 2:43pm On Dec 30, 2015
Bryan37:
It's no news that only 13% of 2016 budget will be funded by the SALE of Crude

Which means that Nigeria is gradually diversifying its economy away from the Oil sector which is expected to even "nose down more". By d time Iran starts pumping their Oil into the international Market, also with d demand for cleaner energy rising day by day and d Cost becoming cheaper and cheaper, I can tell u that in d Next 20 yrs a bucket of Clean water may worth more than a bucket of toxic crude.


What will become of ND a report that has been raped by the Nigeria Government for the past 10 decade

I keep wondering if d OIL was a gift or a curse to this region which made them so Lazy, Corrupt and underdeveloped. Infact d most popular Slogan in d Niger Delta is " our oyel".

The only time ND man is considered in the scheme of things in Nigeria is compensation because of their Oil. Eg emergence of Goodluck Jonathan etc,

Now that the value is gradually diminishing and d reseRve trying, you wonder if this region has done enough or if they are prepared for the storm coming their way.

I must confess, am happy we re moving away from Oil and you are happy too but what will become of our brothers who only relevant is dependent on CRUDE

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What happens to all the Niger delta wealth stolen and buried in Kano, Kaduna, Abuja and Lagos? The debt stolen should be returned to the people of Niger delta .

To answer your question, Nigeria will not be one country if there is no oil for the north to sell and feed their ostentatious lifestyle. Therefore, prepare for a surprise breakup initiated by Arewa north if low oil price persists until 2019.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kernel501: 2:49pm On Dec 30, 2015
abduljabbar4:
If you think importing goods is what will build your economy, you are only decieving yourselves

MY BROTHER TRAVEL TO ABA AND SEE FOR YOURSELF, THEY EXPORT THERE PRODUCTS TO AFRICAN STATES AND EVEN FOR THE LOCAL MARKET.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by abduljabbar4(m): 2:54pm On Dec 30, 2015
kernel501:


MY BROTHER TRAVEL TO ABA AND SEE FOR YOURSELF, THEY EXPORT THERE PRODUCTS TO AFRICAN STATES AND EVEN FOR THE LOCAL MARKET.

Products like what? We also export our farm produce though not often
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by abduljabbar4(m): 3:00pm On Dec 30, 2015
adino:



Jaanjaweed! Always barking,cursing and looking for blood to spill. This is a thread of common sense, Contribute by stating sound opinion if you have any.

"K"
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kayfra: 3:01pm On Dec 30, 2015
kernel501:


MY BROTHER TRAVEL TO ABA AND SEE FOR YOURSELF, THEY EXPORT THERE PRODUCTS TO AFRICAN STATES AND EVEN FOR THE LOCAL MARKET.
Most of what you consider manufacturing in Aba is disingenuous, it's rather assembly of pre-processed Chinese goods in Aba. There are very few processing plants anywhere in the country that transforms raw materials into finished goods. So what we have are assembly plants that rebadge and resell goods from China.

On a positive note, when we eventually fix power, that region will be ready to process raw materials more than most regions.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 3:03pm On Dec 30, 2015
kayfra:
Most of what you consider manufacturing in Aba is disingenuous, it's rather assembly of pre-processed Chinese goods in Aba. There are very few processing plants anywhere in the country that transforms raw materials into finished goods. So what we have are assembly plants that rebadge and resell goods from China.

On a positive note, when we eventually fix power, that region will be ready to process raw materials more than most regions.


That is how China started their road to industrialization

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 3:03pm On Dec 30, 2015
abduljabbar4:


Products like what? We also export our farm produce though not often

What is stopping you from farming?

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kayfra: 3:04pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:



That is how China started their road to industrialization

See my second paragraph.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kernel501: 3:09pm On Dec 30, 2015
abduljabbar4:


Products like what? We also export our farm produce though not often
EVERYBODY IN NIGERIA KNOWS "MADE IN ABA" IS REAL.
LET ME SURPRISE YOU, AM RESIDENT IN LAGOS, WHICH AGRO MARKET IN LAGOS DOES YORUBAS SELL THERE FARM PRODUCES, MILE 12 MARKET WHICH SERVES MAJORITY OF LAGOSIANS HAVE THERE YAMS MAJORILY FROM BENUE, TOMATOES NORTH, RICE FROM JIGAWA, BEANS NORTH, CUCUMBA NORTH, CASSAVA FROM WEST AND SOUTH SOUTH (
DELTA AND EDO STATE), PALM OIL-DELTA,EDO, EAST,RIVERS, EAST.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 3:10pm On Dec 30, 2015
kayfra:


See my second paragraph.

The first paragraph was condescending on the eastern local industrial base which are based on pure entrepreneurship and zeal without any govt assistance and patronage and is 100% indigenious .


Can that be said about any other region?

Give kudos to them.

They are the only ones creating employment for themselves through genuine hard work and skill.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by Dedetwo(m): 3:12pm On Dec 30, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Niger Delta is very rich. Before crude oil we were rich in palm oil. In fact, we were called Oil Rivers (Rivers, Warri and Bayelsa states) for a reason. We have rich lland for agriculture and our waters were used for fishing. Though our land and waters have been polluted due to oil exploration. We are rich in gas with abundant gas reserve. Whether oil become worthless or not we won't suffer. We will only adjust.


Most importantly, we have access to see and can easily capitalised on it.


@OP cry not for the Niger Delta. We will do just fine!

It appears you enjoy making an ignorant fool out of your silly self. The Ijo in particular are not know for palm oil production. As late as 70s, I use to exchange a tin of palm oil for 10 baskets of smoked fish and jar of Akamere at the Abounima waterside. In addition, the Oil Rivers in discussion are Imo River and Qua Iboe River. Even till today, the remnants of palm oil loading duck is lying at Imo River town north of Obigbo. Even the attempts by the delusional Ijaw peeps to sue for Oil River State was vehemently opposed by reasonable fellows from Eket, Ikot Abasi, Ngwa, Ukwa, Obigbo etc.

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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 3:15pm On Dec 30, 2015
kernel501:

EVERYBODY IN NIGERIA KNOWS "MADE IN ABA" IS REAL.
LET ME SURPRISE YOU, AM RESIDENT IN LAGOS, WHICH AGRO MARKET IN LAGOS DOES YORUBAS SELL THERE FARM PRODUCES, MILE 12 MARKET WHICH SERVES MAJORITY OF LAGOSIANS HAVE THERE YAMS MAJORILY FROM BENUE, TOMATOES NORTH, RICE FROM JIGAWA, BEANS NORTH, CUCUMBA NORTH, CASSAVA FROM WEST AND SOUTH SOUTH (
DELTA AND EDO STATE), PALM OIL-DELTA,EDO, EAST,RIVERS, EAST.



The sw are one of the largest producers of cassava,palmoil and yams in nigeria.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by abduljabbar4(m): 3:16pm On Dec 30, 2015
kernel501:

EVERYBODY IN NIGERIA KNOWS "MADE IN ABA" IS REAL.
LET ME SURPRISE YOU, AM RESIDENT IN LAGOS, WHICH AGRO MARKET IN LAGOS DOES YORUBAS SELL THERE FARM PRODUCES, MILE 12 MARKET WHICH SERVES MAJORITY OF LAGOSIANS HAVE THERE YAMS MAJORILY FROM BENUE, TOMATOES NORTH, RICE FROM JIGAWA, BEANS NORTH, CUCUMBA NORTH, CASSAVA FROM WEST AND SOUTH SOUTH (
DELTA AND EDO STATE), PALM OIL-DELTA,EDO, EAST,RIVERS, EAST.

Are you talking abouth the 5th century machines they make? Which country will buy ur cheap quality goods when there are high quality goods in the market. Besides, you are yet to tell me what you export.

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