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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by ken13: 3:17pm On Dec 30, 2015
The Niger Delta would definitely survive. I believe it will fall back on Agriculture, because it would be the next goldmine in view of the fact that the world is moving away from fossil fuel and encouraging the wider use of renewable energy.
In fact, with concerted efforts, no region of the country should suffer given the clement weather, abundant human and natural resources.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kayfra: 3:18pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:
The first paragraph was condescending on the eastern local industrial base which are based on pure entrepreneurship and zeal without any govt assistance and patronage and is 100% indigenious .


Can that be said about any other region?

Give kudos to them.

They are the only ones creating employment for themselves through genuine hard work and skill.
I acknowledge the entrepreneurial and resilient zeal of the SE business man/woman. It is really impressive and one of the bedrock of our economy. But let's categorize what is being done accurately so we don't dwell on half truths.

If power gets fixed the entire SE will get revolutionized with great industries etc. But don't now delude yourself that SE are the only ones creating employment without government assistance, it's simply a falsehood. Are the igbos the most entrepreneurial as a group? Oh yeah. But are they the only entrepreneurs? Hell no.

Let's keep things in proper perspective.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 3:18pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:
That's not true.
The Yorubas provide tout services and ewedu for sale
When others come for your tribe,you claim they hate you.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 3:18pm On Dec 30, 2015
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Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 3:19pm On Dec 30, 2015
ken13:
The Niger Delta would definitely survive. I believe it will fall back on Agriculture, because it would be the next goldmine in view of the fact that the world is moving away from fossil fuel and encouraging the wider use of renewable energy.
In fact, with concerted efforts, no region of the country should suffer given the clement weather, abundant human and natural resources.
Crude is worth 20 times it's weight in gold as a source of synthetic materials.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 3:19pm On Dec 30, 2015
jstbeinhonest:
When others come for your tribe,you claim they hate you.
Every tribe hates the other in Nigeria .
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by abduljabbar4(m): 3:20pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:
What is stopping you from farming?
The interest we have on paid jobs and lack of capital is the reason but with this administration, these problems will be solved
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 3:22pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:
Every tribe hates the other in Nigeria .
I dont agree,but never mind.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kernel501: 3:27pm On Dec 30, 2015
abduljabbar4:
Are you talking abouth the 5th century machines they make? Which country will buy ur cheap quality goods when there are high quality goods in the market. Besides, you are yet to tell me what you export.
YOU SEE WHY ONE REGION IS THE HIGHEST DEBTOR, HAVING BROWN ROOFS IN ALL HER STATES?
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 3:28pm On Dec 30, 2015
kayfra:
I acknowledge the entrepreneurial and resilient zeal of the SE business man/woman. It is really impressive and one of the bedrock of our economy. But let's categorize what is being done accurately so we don't dwell on half truths.

If power gets fixed the entire SE will get revolutionized with great industries etc. But don't now delude yourself that SE are the only ones creating employment without government assistance, it's simply a falsehood. Are the igbos the most entrepreneurial as a group? Oh yeah. But are they the only entrepreneurs? Hell no.

Let's keep things in proper perspective.
The igbos are mostly likely to enter the middle class regardless of their academic background than any tribe.

The middle class in Nigeria is typified as mostly educated individuals with at least a BSC.

While the southwest relies on paid employment in a multinational firm to enter the middle class which will require a university degree, the igbos irrespective find themselves in this class through self employment and they do this through an independent mindset to succeed. This is the secret of entrepreneurship .


So while the SW will have to get a higher degree and the multinational company to employ him or her after attaining their degree the Ibos are already generating their own wealth.

This is what made America great. Not paid employment but small businesses . McDonalds was formed from one burger stand in suburbia but today it is a global brand.

The small scale you dismiss today can grow to conquer the world and there are so many global brands all over the world which started as a one man venture.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kernel501: 3:30pm On Dec 30, 2015
jstbeinhonest:
The sw are one of the largest producers of cassava,palmoil and yams in nigeria.
MY BROTHER IS POSSIBLE WITH CASSAVA, NOT OTHERS. ASK ANY MARKET WOMAN IN LAGOS.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 3:30pm On Dec 30, 2015
abduljabbar4:
Are you talking abouth the 5th century machines they make? Which country will buy ur cheap quality goods when there are high quality goods in the market. Besides, you are yet to tell me what you export.
Don't worry. When dollar hits 500 naira and the govt bans every importable goods , you will be forced to buy made in Aba shoes. grin
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by lordonwils(m): 3:31pm On Dec 30, 2015
explorer250:
And i hope you have a boundry definition of what you call Niger Delta. The oil politics that divided igboland will soon be over and the boundry between igboland and your Niger delta(mainly ijaws) will be drawn.

I thank God my people has always been proud of their igboness despite being in Rivers state. The future holds good for us as igbos with the help of our naturally endowed "survival instincts/spirit"

we are developing.
We are expanding.
We are progressing.

Lest i forget. Obigbo is the satelite town of porthacourt. We are doing Good Infrastructurally and otherwise.
What does the future hold for polluted ijaw land?

Wasnt igboland producing palm oil?

Dont igboland have a seaport at porthacourt?

Somalia has the longest coastline in africa but where are they?

Doesnt igboland have more gas reserves and solid minerals than ijaw land?

Dont we have the human resource?

You once said that igbos lack bargaining chips, so what will be your peoples bargaining chips when pure water is more costly than toxic crude?

We are majorities, we can never loose in this game just like the yorubas and hausas though we have our political differences with them. Minority will always remain minority, they will continue to be pawns in the cheese board of Nigeria

You know what? Eurobomber was right!
I pity for ur deep seated ignorance if u think an ikwerre/Ahoada man or woman will join in ur Biafra nonsense. They're better off with the Ijaws. when that time comes you'll realise who'll laff in the end. Go to ur red mud dry land.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by omonnakoda: 3:31pm On Dec 30, 2015
Dedetwo:
Per the bolded, if the people are so deluded one wonders where is the source of fear that grips most Nigerians on the slightest hint that Biafrans want to leave Nigeria. Most Nigerians are deadly dishonest and it makes one of the reasons Nigeria is perpetually backward. Have you be kicked out of sanitarium hence vomiting this crap on NL?
Again what evidence do you have for that fear.
That is what YOU want to believe. The land is part of Nigeria and there is no way a breakup will not have consequence for our security and economy therefore the process must be managed in a mature adult way. So that our future security is not imperiled. If you want to go you can go but first establish that is the will of the majority then we can have an adultt conversation of sharing assets liabilities,future borders and secuirty.
Ask yourselves why is it that NOT ONE of your elected representatives NO LGA Councillor all the way to senate has advocated for Biafra? Are they all cowards.Were they elected by Fulanis. How come not one House of Assembly has debated the matter. Not one of your 15 senators has brought it up. If you want to marry a woman is it her neighbour you will tell. Do it properly!!

NO!! no one is afraid of Biafra but people do not want unruliness and unlawfulness. Will you achieve Bifra by opening stupid Radio stations while your elected leaders are too cowardly to speak up?
My suggestion to you vote in Nnamdi Kanu as a senator. If you are too young to remember ask your elders. Ojukwu lost in his 1983 bid to become a senator so we can not assume your wishes by observing WE NO GO GREE noisemakers and rabble. Next time vote in men and women of courage who will come and speak about Biafra LIKE ADULTS then you will be surprised how quickly you will have Biafra
This alibi that someone is holding you back is an impotent excuse. We want you gone just do the right thing. As far as I can see the Ibo majority do not want Biafra but you can prove me wrong
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 3:32pm On Dec 30, 2015
kernel501:
YOU SEE WHY ONE REGION IS THE HIGHEST DEBTOR, HAVING BROWN ROOFS IN ALL HER STATES?
THE SS HAS MORE DEBTS THAN THE SW.THE SW HAS THE LOWEST POVERTY RATE IN NIGERIA.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 3:32pm On Dec 30, 2015
abduljabbar4:
The interest we have on paid jobs and lack of capital is the reason but with this administration, these problems will be solved
You either have it in you or you don't .

Which govt encouraged and or patronized or promoted Igbo industrialization ?


Why must you wait for govt to tie your shoes for you?
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 3:36pm On Dec 30, 2015
jstbeinhonest:
THE SS HAS MORE DEBTS THAN THE SW.THE SW HAS THE LOWEST POVERTY RATE IN NIGERIA.
The ND debt is sustainable as it can be met with their income.

The debt ratio for SW is by far the worst in the entire federation.


And why will you sit and type nonsense that the SW is richer than the SS?

I can understand Edo but I don't think any of your rural people eat or live better than the average Niger Deltan.

This is how we where made to believe that osun has the highest GDP in Nigeria even higher than a hustling state like Delta or Rivers.

You people should stop decieving yourselves .
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kernel501: 3:38pm On Dec 30, 2015
omonnakoda:
That is your own perception.You folk alway delude yourselves you are better than everyone else.
Are you more of a hustler than the Fulani who walks from Sokoto to PH with his cows facing hostile humans and beasts on the way? Leave that self indulgent Ibo tale for your village entertainment. Everyone hustles in the way that they have aptitude for. The fact of the matter is the greatest economic activity in Nigeria today more than oil or anything else is agriculture. That is an indisputable fact. Now what do Ibos contribute to agriculture in Nigeria? Instead you continue making empty boasts about how Onitsha market is the largest in the Milky Wayand the US Army buys drones there.

Once again Agriculture accounts for more than 70% of Nigerian economy .What is the Ibo contribution?
WHY DID YOUR GRAND FATHERS FIGHT IN KEEPING THEM (IGBOS) IN ONE NIGERIA, WHEN THEY ARE'NT GOOD ENOUGH?
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 3:40pm On Dec 30, 2015
kernel501:
MY BROTHER IS POSSIBLE WITH CASSAVA, NOT OTHERS. ASK ANY MARKET WOMAN IN LAGOS.
The SW produces has lots of oil palm,The reason why the ss/se sells more is because they have more and consume less.The SW also produces Large quantities of maize (About 40percent of Nigeria's total) and about 200,000 tonnes of cocoa beans.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 3:42pm On Dec 30, 2015
kernel501:
WHY DID YOUR GRAND FATHERS FIGHT IN KEEPING THEM (IGBOS) IN ONE NIGERIA, WHEN THEY ARE'NT GOOD ENOUGH?
Our grandfathers didnt fight to keep the igbos,the fought to keep the niger deltans.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kernel501: 3:42pm On Dec 30, 2015
jstbeinhonest:
THE SS HAS MORE DEBTS THAN THE SW.THE SW HAS THE LOWEST POVERTY RATE IN NIGERIA.
THERE ARE BETTER OF CONSIDERING HOW MUCH THEY MAKE ANNUALLY, PLEASE VISIT THERE STATES.

SECONDILY, ALL THERE DEBT IS NOT COMPARED TO LAGOS DEBT ALONE, MORE OF OTHER WESTERN STATES.

PDP States.
1] Kano (PDP) owes $61.7million
2] Katsina (PDP) owes $74.6million
3] Akwa Ibom (PDP) owes $61.6 million
4] Cross River (PDP) owes $113million
5] Kebbi (PDP) owes $47.8million
6] Kogi (PDP) owes $33.8million
7] Niger (PDP) owes $29.7million
8] Kwara (PDP) owes $45.5million
9] Kaduna (PDP) owes $215.6million
10] Plateau (PDP) owes $21.9million
11] Rivers (PDP) owes $36.6million
12] Jigawa (PDP) owes $33.6million
13] Gombe (PDP)owes $31.7million
14] Enugu (PDP) owes $50million
15] Delta (PDP) owes $18.9million
APC States.
16] Lagos (APC) owes $611.2 million
17] Nassarawa (APC) owes $36.9 million
18] Ogun (APC) owes $102million
19] Osun (APC) owes $62.7million
20] Oyo (APC) owes $76.6million
21] Edo (APC) owes $42.7 million.
22] Ekiti (APC) owes $36.1million
APGA And Labour State(s)
23] Ondo (LP) owes $51.8 million
24] Imo (APGA) owes $51.9million
25] Anambra (APGA) owes $26.7million
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 3:44pm On Dec 30, 2015
kernel501:
OUR NIGER DELTA BROTHERS, WE (IGBOS) WILL RATHER BUY YOUR FARM PRODUCTS... WE ARE ONE.
This is what should be promoted
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 3:47pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:
The ND debt is sustainable as it can be met with their income.

The debt ratio for SW is by far the worst in the entire federation.


And why will you sit and type nonsense that the SW is richer than the SS?

I can understand Edo but I don't think any of your rural people eat or live better than the average Niger Deltan.

This is how we where made to believe that osun has the highest GDP in Nigeria even higher than a hustling state like Delta or Rivers.

You people should stop decieving yourselves .
U said highest debt and i corrected you,stop shifting the goal post.And YES,the SW is region with the least poverty rate.I belive you should know the difference between a state being the richest state and it having the lowest poverty rate.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 3:49pm On Dec 30, 2015
kernel501:
THERE ARE BETTER OF CONSIDERING HOW MUCH THEY MAKE ANNUALLY, PLEASE VISIT THERE STATES.
I agree.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kayfra: 3:49pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:
The igbos are mostly likely to enter the middle class regardless of their academic background than any tribe.

The middle class in Nigeria is typified as mostly educated individuals with at least a BSC.

While the southwest relies on paid employment in a multinational firm to enter the middle class which will require a university degree, the igbos irrespective find themselves in this class through self employment and they do this through an independent mindset to succeed. This is the secret of entrepreneurship .


So while the SW will have to get a higher degree and the multinational company to employ him or her after attaining their degree the Ibos are already generating their own wealth.

This is what made America great. Not paid employment but small businesses . McDonalds was formed from one burger stand in suburbia but today it is a global brand.

The small scale you dismiss today can grow to conquer the world and there are so many global brands all over the world which started as a one man venture.
This is the folly of relying on stereotypes. You gang up SE and SW as one homogeneous group with stereotypical behaviors. Within the SW the Ijebus and Ijeshas are as entrepreneurial as Igbos if not more and we have enough igbos in service based industries (multinationals). Let's stop the tribalistic display and hubris. Its why Africa is held back as a continent.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kernel501: 3:50pm On Dec 30, 2015
jstbeinhonest:
Our grandfathers didnt fight to keep the igbos,the fought to keep the niger deltans.
WHY CRYING BLOOD WITH THE NEW BIAFRA AGITATION, ALWAYS FOLLOWING BIAFRAN THREADS THAN NIGERIA. IMAGINE YOUR KANU CURIOCITY PUSHED HIM TO GOOGLE THIRD MOST SEARCHED THING/NAME IN NIGERIA INSTEAD OF BOKO HARAM?
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by abduljabbar4(m): 3:51pm On Dec 30, 2015
TheDevilIsALai:
You either have it in you or you don't .

Which govt encouraged and or patronized or promoted Igbo industrialization ?


Why must you wait for govt to tie your shoes for you?
It seems like something is wrong with you. Can you tell me more about una "industrialization"?

Why didnt you build niger bridge instead of disturbing the government that you dont need? Why did you disturb the government that you dont need about sea ports? I dont want to go deeper
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by omonnakoda: 3:52pm On Dec 30, 2015
kernel501:
WHY DID YOUR GRAND FATHERS FIGHT IN KEEPING THEM (IGBOS) IN ONE NIGERIA, WHEN THEY ARE'NT GOOD ENOUGH?
Ask you grand mother why they broke the law and also tried to attack Lagos. ask her why they killed Akintola and others and ask them why they plundered banks in Benin and tried to steal territories across Eastern Nigeria. You must ALWAYS do things with due process not act on impulse like children. When you break away into Biafra we will give you conditions whiich you must adhere to number one of which is it must be a demilitarized zone. Biafra will not be allowed to have any kind of military or enter any military treaties since you have proven in the past to be untrustworthy. Once we have all other legal arrangements in place you can be on your way
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by jstbeinhonest(m): 3:53pm On Dec 30, 2015
kernel501:
WHY CRYING BLOOD WITH THE NEW BIAFRA AGITATION, ALWAYS FOLLOWING BIAFRAN THREADS THAN NIGERIA. IMAGINE YOUR KANU CURIOCITY PUSHED HIM TO GOOGLE THIRD MOST SEARCHED THING/NAME IN NIGERIA INSTEAD OF BOKO HARAM?
Even if the north or west were planing to leave it would generate the same interest.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by TheDevilIsALai: 3:53pm On Dec 30, 2015
jstbeinhonest:
U said highest debt and i corrected you,stop shifting the goal post.And YES,the SW is region with the least poverty rate.I belive you should know the difference between a state being the richest state and it having the lowest poverty rate.
If I earn 100,000 and have to pay 5,000 to service bank debts am I poorer or more indebted than a man who earns 10,000 and has to pay 4,000 monthly?

Use your brain.

Apart from Lagos none of the states in your region come close to the ND.

And with all honesty can you say that Baylsans are poorer than Osunites who are facing an acute famine than even those in the ravaged NE?

Admit it ! Your people are only barely slightly better than your almajiri cousins from up north.

How can civil servants require food aid from churches and FERMA ?

That is what happened in your osun.
Re: Now That Crude Is Gradually Becoming Worthless, What Next For Niger Delta? by kernel501: 3:56pm On Dec 30, 2015
omonnakoda:
Ask you grand mother why they broke the law and also tried to attack Lagos. ask her why they killed Akintola and others and ask them why they plundered banks in Benin and tried to steal territories across Eastern Nigeria. You must ALWAYS do things with due process not act on impulse like children. When you break away into Biafra we will give you conditions whiich you must adhere to number one of which is it must be a demilitarized zone. Biafra will not be allowed to have any kind of military or enter any military treaties since you have proven in the past to be untrustworthy. Once we have all other legal arrangements in place you can be on your way
HAHAHAHA ... PAY YOUR DEBTS, REFUND BAILOUTS AND STOP SHOW CASING BROWN ROOFS.
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