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| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 7:48am On Jan 02, 2016 |
Afam4eva:Remember when you said this Afam4eva:So don't you thinks Ibos should go and meet Oga Jona? You must be consistent and not a hypocrite Let me remind you if you are too young to remember in 1979 Shagari Preseident Ekwueme Vice president Joe Wayas Senate President Edwin Ume-Ezeoke Speaker House of Representatives There was no Yoruba any where in sight in the Government and this was just 9 years after the civil war in which Ibos were "victims". The first republic was no different went the Ibos teamed up with the North and so again in 2011. Ibos have ALWAYS relied on being in the central government and feel like a fish out of water now that they are having to taste opposition for the first time I just hope people will examine the facts and see who really depends on being in government in the centre and who really has been the collaborator of the North.S if you are looking for marginalization in government look at the SW we are used to it. It was so in 1960,1963,1979 2011 Facts Facts Facts not sentiment Yes you are correct when you say You can keep denying it to yourself all you want but the truth is there to see. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 8:04am On Jan 02, 2016 |
FIVE YEARS LATER aljharem: |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 8:05am On Jan 02, 2016 |
chino11: |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by cheruv: 9:15am On Jan 02, 2016 |
sanmibukunmi:A gāju onye ![]() Finally its been long I heard this common Yoruba lie ![]() |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by sanmibukunmi: 9:16am On Jan 02, 2016 |
cheruv:whether you believe or not is not my problem though |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by abduljabbar4(m): 9:22am On Jan 02, 2016 |
icewinz:Burgu means rat and not rabbit. Ask Sameer As for the idioms, i dare you to ask any Hausa man you see on the streets. In fact most illiterates know the idioms better than us Baba na daka gemu na waje means smoke! Oh, its christianity that is here for peace right? We all know everything Namdi Kanu said about the Yorubas and Hausas. Dont dare me, i have a full callection of bible verses that encourage violence esp to non-christians |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by abduljabbar4(m): 9:25am On Jan 02, 2016 |
Rilwayne001:Wow. But the one a quoted is just a hausa-wannabe cos he didnt attemt the questions. The one that attempted got 2/4 |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by abduljabbar4(m): 9:30am On Jan 02, 2016 |
modath:I dont know @ all. You can find Fulani christians but you can hardly find a Hausa christian. I have never seen one myself |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by frleopardo: 9:31am On Jan 02, 2016 |
obailala:fuuk off . you are not from the SE. slowpoke |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 9:43am On Jan 02, 2016 |
sanmibukunmi:If you like continue wailing up and down on every topic bothering on Igbo affairs just because they desire a separate existence from lazy ass-lickers, parasites, treasury looters, never-do-wells and imperialists. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 9:46am On Jan 02, 2016 |
abduljabbar4:Bring it on. Don't chicken out. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by sanmibukunmi: 10:06am On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy:hahahahahaha....chai your words show how pained you are....am not responsible for your woes so stop crying bro. look at your words you are the wailer here. and FYI I seriously want you ppl to go. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Nobody: 10:08am On Jan 02, 2016 |
did you ask these questions before deciding to vote goodluck Jonathan enmass in 2015 after 6years of cluelessness? it is people like you and the others on this forum that make people think the IQ of an average Igbo individual is way below average. yet I know this not to be the case. just look now, while the Ijaws have moved on after the defeat of their son in the last election, people like you from the SE (in a classic case of crying more than the bereaved) are still wailing up and down, and propping up Jonathan as a soon-to-be Nobel awardee. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 10:09am On Jan 02, 2016 |
sanmibukunmi:If you like continue your wailing because you're about to be left in your misery. That's your cup of tea. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 10:13am On Jan 02, 2016 |
Ioannes:See an ewedu eater still chestbeating in the public when his tribe rarely stand for anything in life even with their much taunted 'sufferstication', nay 'sophistication'. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Deadlytruth(m): 10:15am On Jan 02, 2016 |
Bryan37:Igbos started being killed in very large numbers in the North far before 1966/67 pogroms which Ojukwu claimed made him declare Biafra. A lot of Igbos were killed in 1945 and 1953 in the North. With these two ethnic cleansing against Igbos by Northerners one would not have expected Azikiwe to have later in 1960 forged an alliance with the same North at all no matter his earlier beef with Awolowo whose Yoruba people had never shed any single Igbo man's blood in the West prior to that time. Why did Zik cut his nose to spite his face? Was the need to avenge Awolowo's 'sin' against him more important and urgent than the need to have accepted Awolowo's offer thus prevent from rising to power the very people who had been slaughtering his own brothers and were definitely going to use such official power to further wreck carnage on his tribe which they already hated and did not pretend about it? How could a leader, in pursuit of personal vendetta, sacrifice the future and freedom of those he was leading and representing? Why could Ojukwu and Ironsi not declare Biafra as at when they were both still in power and had the ultimate wherewithal to do so knowing fully well that Igbo massacres had already started far before then? What sort of belief in one Nigeria was that? |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Nobody: 10:21am On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy:come and see your kith and kin, your family members eating ewedu with me here in the southwest. I am sure they will give you the testimony that it is way better than eating human flesh. we know who are the chest beaters extraordinnaire in Nigeria. the gra gra people. the people who swore up and down that if Kanu was touched Nigeria will see hell. Shege. my ethnic group, the Yoruba, is well respected the world over. I won't even go there. yours is known for haven been trounced in a war, not to mention all sorts of notorious atrocities committed in Indonesia and other Asian tiger countries. read my lips. M.U.M.U. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by abduljabbar4(m): 10:25am On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy:You must kill and destroy those who worship another god[exodus 22:20] And the Qur'an says: be righteous and act justly toward those who worship another god[quran 60:8] |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by icewinz(m): 10:25am On Jan 02, 2016 |
abduljabbar4:u just sound funny,i dare you nigga,qoute any bible verse that preaches against violence. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by abduljabbar4(m): 10:29am On Jan 02, 2016 |
icewinz:You must kill and destroy those who worship another god[exodus 22:20] Compared to Qur'an: be righteous and act justly toward those who worship another god[quran 60:8] I have hundreds of them |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 11:15am On Jan 02, 2016*. Modified: 11:38am On Jan 02, 2016 |
Ioannes:Your response is typical of a descendant of ritual killers and cannibals who whose pasttimes include sitting at home and looking for underage children to rape. Omoale, read and find out why Yoruba is the founding fathers of crime in nigeria. https://www.nairaland.com/106713/behold-deported-drug-couriers-nigerian From the statistics above: 11 of the drug dealers were Yorubas 5 were Igbos 3 were Edo. osisi5:http://thenigeriangazette.com/history-of-armed-robbers-company-liquidators-rapists-and-notoriours-official-criminals-in-nigeria-by-shama-maliga/ |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Biafrarep(m): 11:16am On Jan 02, 2016 |
South east has been marginalized, suppressed, cheated, hated, subjugated, dehumanized & blockaded since 1966 till date & I will give you facts to buttress my point. 1. Nigeria fought a bitter civil war(1967-70) against Biafra & over 2million Biafrans were killed, the infrastructure within Biafra were obliterated & before that, in 1966 there was a pogrom in the North & over 30,000 Igbos were massacred & their businesses looted & destroyed, the FG up till now never made a reparation or even reconstruction but the same FG hurriedly borrowed almost 3billion dollars to reconstruct NE even when boko haram is still active in the region! 2. There is no single FG agency in SE!! 3. Quota system was officially instituted to checkmate Igbo progress. 4. Igbos are constantly harassed & threatened with death in their own country!! 5. There is a deliberate state sponsored policy to make the SE unattractive by denying them basic infrastructure et al. May Karma visit any bast.ard that denies Igbo marginalization in Nigeria!!! |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 11:21am On Jan 02, 2016 |
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the [holy man] who represents God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged. . I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am God. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother-in-law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. Make ready to slaughter [the infidel’s] sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. Then I heard God say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.” Keep [my holiday], for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die. If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. A [holy man’s] daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. Everyone who would not seek God was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. But if [a girl wasn't a virgin on her wedding night] and evidence of the girl's virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her father’s house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against God’s people by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. . Cursed be he who does God’s work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. Anyone who blasphemes God’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of [believers]. Anyone else who goes too near the [Holy Place] will be executed. 1. Deuteronomy17:12 NLT; 2. Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT; 3. Matthew 10:34-35; 4Isaiah 14:21 NAB; 5. Ezekiel 9:5 6.Exodus 31:12-15 NLT; 12. 7. Leviticus 20:10 NLT; 8. Numbers 31: 17-18 KJV; 9. Leviticus 21:9 NAB; 10. 2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB; 11. Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB; 12. Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB; 13. Jeremiah 48:10 NAB; 14. Leviticus 24:16 NLT; 15. Numbers 1: 51 NLT; |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 11:26am On Jan 02, 2016 |
abduljabbar4:So tell us how many of your folks have been killed by Christians? Austin4lif: Austin4lif: |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by abduljabbar4(m): 11:29am On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy:Who told you that lie? Where? How? Do you know? |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by obailala(m): 11:32am On Jan 02, 2016 |
anticabal1:I am an efulefu... abi no be so una talk am? ![]() |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 11:36am On Jan 02, 2016 |
abduljabbar4:You think you can deceive other people by starting another round of lies and propaganda to cover up your innumerable atrocities in the land? It is rather too late. Imokay: |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Deadlytruth(m): 11:51am On Jan 02, 2016 |
abduljabbar4:Exodus 22:20 refers to only Israelites who worshipped another God and not non-Israelites. In fact just in the next verse the same God says, "Do not ill-treat foreigners (who definitely were worshipping other gods); remember that you were foreigners in Egypt". That tells you that it displeases God to see an Israelite worship another god while a He overlooks and even protects foreigner worshipping his god since he can't be blamed for his ignorance. But for the Israelite he has no excuse of being ignorant of the true God. Please read the verses before and after that portion so as to appreciate the context in which God was speaking to Moses there. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 11:51am On Jan 02, 2016 |
Deadlytruth:What sort of silly questions are you asking now after over 45 years of the promised 3Rs by the FG? You think your silly propaganda can work? Never! Go worry about the misery of your people. And stop ranting about the Igbos. Igbos simply desire a separate existence from lazy ass-lickers, parasites, treasury looters, never-do-wells and imperialists. Let that fact sink fast. BishopMagic: |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by vicadex07(m): 12:11pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Afam4eva:Don't be clever by half. If you agree that all tribes are marginalized, then who is marginilazing who? Igbos are not asking the right people the right questions but instead blame others. They have gorvernors, senators, rep members, ministers and political godfathers since the inception of this country like everybody else. Now I ask again, who is marginalizing who? I remember your response to such question when Yoruba elders said same about Yoruba marginalization to during Jonathan government so don't give me any useless diatribe. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Deadlytruth(m): 12:18pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
omonnakoda:All the above referenced bible verses still have to do with the laws among Israelites themselves. They were not commands to Israelites to kill other peoples who did not worship their God. Where God promised such other nations would die, He (God) promised to kill them by Himself and did not mandate Israelites to do it for Him. And on such cases those other nations were slaughtered by God not because they did not believe in Israelites' God but because they offended the Israelites and God himself and refused to be remorseful. If God was killing them for the mere fact that they did not believe in Him, then He would have wiped all other nations off the earth leaving only the Israelites who believed in Him. The verses in which Jesus declared that he brought sword to the world to set people against one another is more figurative than literal just like many other Jesus' use of literary style in speaking. For example, the command to turn the other cheek as a response to a slap on one is not literal in application. It is only a hyperbole which Jesus employed to emphasize how slow to retaliation his followers should be. This is confirmed by the fact that when Jesus himself was later given a very dirty slap before the high priest Caiaphas he did not literally turn the other cheek for more but queried why he deserved such violent treatment and yet never retaliated. The Bible should be read between the lines by anyone who seeks the truth. |
| Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 12:33pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Deadlytruth:So that makes it alright then as long as Israelites are killing themselves? What logic!! What about Amalekites who were killed by Saul why did God rip the kingdom away from him. You reaally need to read the bible. What about the Canaanites? The Hittites,the Amorites. ? There is no more blood thirsty god than Jehovah in human history whom we can conclude is the same as Allah Please explain how any sane mind can conclude that the following is a command to kill Israelites Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. This is about how to conduct war . kill the men and take the women as sex slaves a command from Jehovah which we also see in the Quran Read the verses before commenting clearly you did not read them then THINK do not just react but use your brain for its intended purpose What Jehovah was actually commanding his "chosen people" to do when waging war was to keep virgins for themselves so we know where the VIRGIN tradition started How how do you suppose they confirmed virginity in those days ,by questionnaire? |
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