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Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Deadlytruth(m): 12:43pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
"What sort of silly questions are you asking now after over 45 years of the promised 3Rs by the FG? You think your silly propaganda can work? Never! Go worry about the misery of your people. And stop ranting about the Igbos. Igbos simply desire a separate existence from lazy ass-lickers, parasites, treasury looters, never-do-wells and imperialists. Let that fact sink fast." Several opportunities came for Igbos to free themselves and indeed the South from lazy ass lickers, parasites, treasury looters, never-do-wells and imperialists, but Igbos ignored all those opportunities because they too wanted a fraudulent one Nigeria which would offer them an opportunity to loot the treasury, parasitize on everyone else, lord it over others, etc. Was it not an Igbo man, Aguyi Ironsi, that centralized the treasury in pursuit of his intention to have every region's revenues in one single purse so as to make it easier for Igbos to loot every other region without necessarily going to contest elections in those other regions again, and also to afford them a bigger loot from a combined purse? If Aguyi Ironsi had successfully seen his unitary system through and established a perpetual Igbo control over the centre as he and Azikiwe planned in their fraudulent nationalist acclaim, would the Igbos have today been "desiring a separate existence from lazy ass-lickers, parasites, treasury looters, never-do-wells and imperialists"? Because you were beaten to your game and driven far away from the centre after you centralized the purse you suddenly realize you desire a separate existence from parasites, arse lickers, etc? Was there any separate existence better than the regional federalism which you dismantled in pursuit of your hidden and selfish agenda? Why would the FG implement the three Rs while you already claim that after the war you have recovered so fast that you have become the richest and have overtaken all other regions to their envy? You claim you've done the 3 Rs all by yourselves, so why ask the FG to do it for you again? |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Ezemust: 12:49pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
sanmibukunmi:we kept quite coz gej tried to right the wrong.he organised a national confrence which the north rejected.secondly for the first time an igbo man was made a COAS in Nigeria army.the much needed international airport was granted.even talking about the second niger bridge alone broghth hope to our people.we simply beleived in gej |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 1:01pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Deadlytruth:No response to the the quote above . When it suits Christians(and Muslims) they talk of context .If we can talk of context in one we must do so in the other. The Quran was "revealed" over 23 years and there is a context to every "revelation" as an African I just choose not to believe either Quran or Bible after reading them both SEVERAL TIMES which is more than most Christians or Muslims can claim to have done. If you read those books from cover to cover then no way will you believe that they are from any god worth worshipping. The fact is Mohammed borrowed most of his ideas from the bible and you will understand them better when you understand the Middle East culture. There are SEVERAL genocidal and infanticidal commands from Jehovah in the Bible. Clearly Jehovah is very blood thirsty. Jehovah tells us For I, the LORD, do not change; Malachi 3:6 so do not try that "old testament" yarn |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 1:10pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Deadlytruth: You are still ranting carelessly with your wicked lies and evil propaganda just because a people have chosen to have a separate existence from lazy ass-lickers, parasites, treasury looters, never-do-wells and imperialists. You will soon cry blood and I shall help plunge you into more misery to your shame. Remember how your elites, professors of lies and lying lawyers were nowhere to be found when Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, the current Emir of Kano, revealed the truth about the notorious liars and history distortionists by declaring, "YORUBAS ARE THE PROBLEM WITH NIGERIA". Aguiyi Ironsi used a quasi-unitary system of government to save the country from the looming anarchy after the January 15, 1966 coup. It was meant to be temporal and Aguiyi Ironsi or his people never gained any undue advantage over other ethnic. AGUIYI IRONSI DID NOT DISSOLVE THE REGIONAL GOVERNMENTS OR RESOURCE CONTROL; GOWON WITH THE COLLUSION OF AWOLOWO DID! An Igboman Emeka Ojukwu spearheaded the Aburi agreement in which fiscal federalism and even confederation was adopted, but the other Nigerian, including Awolowo and Enahoro kicked against it. That is why fiscal federalism has not been experienced in this nation since then. In 1972 Gowon and Awolowo proceeded to enact and enforce the Indigenization decree which led to the collapse of the Nigerian economy. To add insult to the festering injury Olusegun Obasanjo promulgated the Land Use Decree (now Land Use Act) in 29th of March, 1978. By the provision of the Land Use Decree of 1978, the inhabitants of the oil producing communities were turned into squatters in their own ancestral homes, as land where oil is explored, produced, transported and stored were decreed to belong to the state long after political independence in 1960. The existence and application of the Land Use Act of 1978 contributed to the present state of neglect, under-development and the insecurity of the region. And for over 45 years, your subsequent governments refused to repeal the evil laws and entrench true practice of federal system of government. And the so called loud-mouthed tribe that termed themselves as 'sophisticated' were in power for over 11 years and would rather sit on the fence than have the evil polities eliminated! Gowon, Awolowo, Ejoor, Adebayo, Mobolaji Johnson, Katsina, Wey and all the groups that supported and advised the Federal Government of Nigeria to renege on the accords agreed upon in Aburi, Ghana were responsible for the 1967-70 Civil War, alongside their murderous kinsmen who killed innocent Easterners in revenge for an act done by a misguided group of soldiers comprising both Southerners and Northerners. Here is a list of some of your greedy kinsmen who looted and ruined the fortune of this country. And this is your idea of 'One Nigeria' where you persistently rob Peter to perennially pay parasitic Paul, and still continue to spill innocent blood to maintain the status quo in the polity. simtosul post: The question here really is the role these men and women played in the current state of Nigeria. The List of Top 20 Most Corrupt Nigerian Leaders (dead/alive) below: 1. Oluesgun Obasanjo – He stole $25 billion from 1999-2007 ($16.4 from power sector alone) 2. Ibrahim Babangida – He stole $15 billion from 1985-1993 ($12.4 billion from oil wind fall in 1990) 3. Abdulsalam Abubakar – He stole $9 billion from 1998-99 4. Sani Abacha – He stole $7 billion from 1993-1998 5. Ahmed Bola Tinubu – He stole and continues to steal from Lagos State treasury since 1999 till date. It’s estimated that he has stolen $6 billion so far. 6. Muhammadu Buhari – He stole $2 billion from NNPC accounts in the ’70s and the money was traced to Midland bank (now HSBC), London. Under his watch as PTF Head, N25 billion got missing according to PTF Situation Report submitted to Abdusalam in 1999. 7. TY Danjuma – He fraudulently got enriched through oil blocks from the Niger Delta worth $20 million in the 70s after the counter coup. Those oil blocks worth billions of dollars in today’s value. 8. Sanusi Lamido Sanusi – He stole $1.2 billion as CBN Governor from 2008-2014. 9. Bukola Saraki – Through his father, Olukola Saraki, their bank, Societe Generale and as a governor of Kwara State (2003-20111) he stole $1.1 billion 10. Nasir El Rufai – Before he was made the FCT Minister, El Rufai was broke, homeless and was looking for loan to import taxis from the UK. After he was made the minister, he seized landed properties that belonged to Nigerians and resold them with huge profit. It’s estimated that he stole $1 billion from 2003-2007. 11. Tunde Fashola – He is the poster boy of Tinubu. Boht of them looted Lagos dried and left it in debt of about N1 billion. Fashola, among other thing built his personal website for N78 million, drilled borehole for over N100 million per each and built a kilometre road for N1 billion. He stole $900 million from 2007-2015. He’ll soon be a minister to continue the looting. 12. Chubike Rotimi Amaechi – From 2007 to 2015, he stole $700 million and $150 million from that money was used to sponsor Buhari and APC. 13. Atiku Abubakar – When he as asked by our reporter how he made his money, he simply said “he was always at the right place at the right time.” Atiku is an astute businessman, but through shady deals, he stole $500 million from 1999-2007. 14. James Ibori – He stole $150 million from 1999-2007 as governor of Delta State. He’s serving his term for money laundering in the UK. 15. Amina Mohammed – This woman was the founder of Afri-Project Consortium (APC) that was in charge of all PTF Projects during Abacha’s regime. About $125 million was stolen from PTF accounts from 1994-1998. Buhari has just nominated the same woman as a minister to continue to stealing. 16. DSP Alamieyeseigha – He stole $120 million and was arrested for money laundering. He pleaded guilty and long served his term. 17. Sule Lamido – He stole $110 million between 2007-2015 and out of that amount, $50 million was found in his sons’ bank accounts. He was arrested and detained for days together with his sons. 18. Rabui Kwankwaso – He stole $100 million as a governor of Kano State. EFCC has arrested many of his aides and they are “singing” how they siphoned the money 19. Kashium Shettima – this governor has stolen about $80 million and still counting. 20. Rauf Aregbesola – he has milked Osun State to the tune of $60 million. 21. Kayode Fayemi – this former governor stole $40 million and stashed some part of the loot in Ghana. He was reportedly bought a bed for N50 million. Note: The likes of President Goodluck Jonathan and key members of his administration including the former Minister of Petroleum are missing. Source: NewsDay |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 1:25pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Awolowo Resigned from Gowon's Government in June 1971 so was not in government when indigenization decree was enacted So much noise is made about Aburi accord. What exactly is the SPECIFIC issue in Aburi accord that is at dispute It is a fact that Nigeria had a regional system of government with fiscal federalism which was abrogated by the enactment of Decree 34 by Ironsi Ojukwu did not have a problem with that but when the Eboes lost out in the counter coup he suddenly realized that this same decree 34 was a bad idea.As usual Eboes think everyone else is a fool while the exact opposite proves to be the case in out national politics You can publish tomes of falsehood we will refute them all. All of this started when the Eboes introduced coups to Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Deadlytruth(m): 1:25pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Ezemust: GEJ tried to right the wrong by; 1. refusing to organize the confab in the first instance until the duo of Okurounmu and Nwabueze mounted pressure on him to do so? 2. earlier on declaring repeatedly that he did not believe our problem was with the structure but with corruption which once conquered every other thing would just fall into place? 3. going to open the confab with a speech in which he advised the delegates to make 75% majority as their basis for consensus despite him being a PhD holder who therefore knew fully well that even the universal 66.67% for any democracy is difficult to attain? 4. succumbed to the classification of some very pivotal and front burner issues as no-go-areas? 5. declared that he would send the report of the confab to the National Assembly whose member would not want a change of status quo. Why not have sent the report to for a referendum among the very masses who demanded for the confab? 6. refused to allow each of the over 300 ethnic nationalities to freely choose their own delegate to the confab but insisted on having a presidency list by which he himself chose almost 50% of the delegates? 7. decided to choose delegates based on professional careers rather than based on ethnic nationalities whose disagreements and mutual suspicions over the years have led to the mess we are in? Is Nigeria's problem having anything to do with rivalry among professional groups or rather among ethnic nationalities? 8. made provision for party delegates despite knowing fully well that parties are not stake holders in any way as they represent no permanent interest owing to the fact that their membership compositions are always changing? If a party attended that confab and negotiates a position for its members who probably are more of one or two neighbouring regions at that moment and then the party later in future becomes more dominated by the tribes of another region owing to re-alignment, then what becomes of the earlier negotiations which just suited only the previous occupant tribes of that party? GEJ's confab was nothing but a time-buying mechanism. 1 Like |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 1:54pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
omonnakoda: Frustrated Yorrobber, this is to reformat and reset your brain: tonychristopher post: This piece was prompted by what I saw as benign ignorance amongst some of our Ibo folks and because such ignorance is music to the ears of some other people and Yoruba in particular. In more than one occasion my friends and other Ibo have advanced the argument that if Ibo was that smart, how come Yorubas dominated the commerce industry in Nigeria? What they meant were the domination of Yoruba in the banking, insurance industries, Coco Cola and some other surviving industries. In one particular occasion a friend revealed to me that he recently discovered that the reason why some Yoruba are so wealthy is because they were smart enough to invest their money in corporate stocks and bonds (not realizing that Yoruba actually stolen those corporations) while Ibo is busy engaging in buying and selling. The Yoruba will like people to continue to believe that story, that it was because they were smart that they were able to do all these great investments in the commerce industry. One relevant question that I always managed to ask my interlocutors is whether they were aware of the indigenization decree of 1972, master minded by Awolowo and the Yoruba and the ramifications of that policy, as will be expected, the answer ranged from, I have heard of it but does not understand what it actually meant to I have not heard of the policy. Listening to this ignorance induced perspective from my friends made my heart to skip a beat, realizing that the task of bridging this information gap is not going to be a child’s play. What is disconcerting is that some in their benign induced ignorance believe that the effect of indigenization is inconsequential at this time because it happened about forty years ago. This piece is therefore for those that are educable and for those that have the capacity to appreciate the magnitude and most importantly for those that can relate that gigantic economic event that reshaped the economic foundation on which Nigerian economy settled on after the British/Biafran war and as well as relate our present economic malaise to that economic foundation engendered by indigenization. There is no doubt that most people, particularly those that do not have either basic or international economics background are overwhelmed by the subject of INDIGENIZATION OF FOREIGN COMPANIES IN NIGERIA because of their inability to understand the economics of it and the efficacies to make the necessary connections and relate it to the present economic doldrums, some simply brush it aside or worse, simple minimize its far reaching implications particularly on the Ibo. In so doing, majority of us dabble into analysis of how terrible Ibo has managed their affairs since after the civil war, while leaving out a huge chunk of the elements that need to be factored into their analysis. The unspeakable effect of the policy of indigenization on the Ibo was wicked and dastardly. The economic damage on the Ibo is impossible to calculate. The psychological toll on the Ibo is still reverberating amongst the Ibo today and creating identity crisis. Some folks will argue that we should drop the subject because it happened forty years ago, which is equivalent to saying that because slavery, Jim crow and the holocaust happened years ago, and for that reason, they have no relevance in today’s analysis. How can any credible analysis of American history not include slavery and its implications, or how can any Jewish history not include the holocaust and its implications and effects, but that is what some folks want us to do, to avoid or forget one of the most devastating economic policies that changed the economic landmark of Nigeria, second to the genocide of more than a million Ibo committed by the same man, Awo, and still arrive at any meaningful analysis. I believe that the incredulity that any ethnic group is capable of visiting such devastation on another is still an obstacle that the subject is struggling against and must overcome. It is not that most people do not know what happen, it is simply that they do not what to believe that it happened because it is mind bending. I also believe that if we do not tell the story over and over, the Yorubas will not tell and neither will the Hausa tell it, as a matter of fact they always wish that it will go away. So whether they like it or not, we must continue to broadcast what happened until people start to understand the effect of the policy not only on the Ibo but on the nation as a whole. Suffice to say that after Awo and the Yoruba succeeded in executing the indigenization decree and became overnight millionaires, many Ibo packed their bags and left Lagos to the east –ala Ibo, where they shortly died out of heart break because some of them also suffered the deprivation of their properties due to abandon property policy in Lagos and Port harcourt. WHAT ENGENDERED THE INDIGENIZATION POLICY? It is no more news worthy to point out that before the civil war that Ibo out of their capacity for honesty, to work hard, to produce, to innovate, to manage, create and persevere were able to penetrate all facets of Nigerian endeavor, when the British used merit as a yard stick. It is an irrefragable fact that even Yoruba would not dare challenge that fact, if not, what started the Yoruba hate, envy and jealousy against the Ibo in the first place, Yoruba and Hausa claimed that Ibo was dominating everything in the country but what they will not acknowledge publicly was the fact that the British were making the decisions about who to hire by their own standard and not by Ibo standard and that Ibo was good at what they did and better than them. The Yoruba and Hausa wanted not only equal opportunity they also wanted equal outcome regardless of effort and everyone knows that that is impossible. There is one very important fact in my analysis that I want everyone to get, and that is that before the civil war, Nigeria as a nation did not have an economic of its own. Let me say it again, that Nigeria as a nation before the British/Biafran civil war did not have an economy of its own. I emphasized that point in other to say that whatever seemed like Nigerian economy were British owned. Put differently, if you excluded few of the regional cooperatives and some joint ventures businesses which were mostly British engineered to make buying raw materials easy for the British, ever y other aspect of the economy were owned majorly by the British, even the military, given the fact that almost every military supply came from Britain. It is then save to say that British investment in Nigeria amounted to a great totality of Nigerian economy or that Nigerian economy was at that time synonymous to the total investment of the British. Below, courtesy of Africa today are the list of some of the companies that constituted Nigerian economy before the war that the Yoruba stole in one swoop, spanning the insurance companies like Lloyd’s of London and all the banks in Nigeria owned one way or the other by the British. This is but a partial list of what constituted the British investment in Nigerian economy. “Pharmaceutical Nigeria Plc ,May and Baker Nigeria Plc,Vitafoam Nigeria Plc,Wahum Nigeria Limited ,CAP Nigeria Plc , International Paints of West Africa [IPWA], Berger Paints Nigeria Plc, Berec Nigeria Limited, Kabelmetal, Nigeria Bottling Company Plc, Leventis Nigeria Plc ,West African Portland Cement Company,[Lafarge ],Wema Bank Nigeria Plc, Scoa Nigeria Plc ,CFAO Nigeria Plc, Cadbury Nigeria Plc, Wemaboard Estates, Odua Group, Livestock Feeds Nigeria Plc , Nigerian Breweries Plc, new nigerian Bank, Batta, Kingsway Stores, Crittal Hope (Nigeria) Limited, Mushin, Lagos State. Dunlop (Nig.) Industries Plc, Ikeja, Lagos State. Galvanising Industries Limited, Ikeja, Lagos State. Nigeria Construction & Water Resources Development Company Limited, Ibadan, Oyo State Nigerian Wire & Cable Plc, Ibadan, Oyo State Nigerite PLC, Ikeja, Lagos State Nipol Limited, Ibadan, Oyo State Odu'a Textile Industries Limited, Ado-Ekiti, Ekiti State Soleh Boneh Overseas (Nigeria) Limited, Ibadan, Oyo State Vono Products Plc, Mushin, Lagos State Wema Bank Plc, Marina, Lagos West African Portland Cement Plc, Ikeja, Lagos State Great Nigeria Insurance PLC, Ikoyi, Lagos State Glanvill Enthoven & Company Limited ◦Guinness (Nig.) Plc, Ikeja, Lagos State. ◦International Breweries Plc, Ilesa, Osun State. ◦Macmillian Publishers (Nig) Limited, Ilupeju, Lagos ◦Nestle Food (Nig) Plc, Ikeja, Lagos State ◦Nidogas Company Limited, Lagos State ◦Niger Mills Company Limited, Calabar, Cross River State ◦Nigerian Aluminium Extrusions Limited, Lagos ◦SKG-Pharma (Nig.) Limited, Lagos ◦Tower Aluminium (Nig.) Plc, Lagos ◦U. A. C. of Nigeria Plc., Lagos etc. The necessity of inserting this partial list of the companies/assets that existed before the war was to give the reader a sense of the extent of what the issue is all about and who owned what and when. The Yoruba hardly owned much of anything or any of these assets listed above except in some regional joint cooperative ventures with the British. The story went like this, before the war the Ibo dominated the economic work force followed by the Yoruba, when British/Biafran war started, Ibo, for their safety left their jobs in different parts of the country to return to the east, the Ibo land. After the end of the war, the Ibo went back to seek for their jobs that they left for security reasons, the Yoruba who took advantage and occupied the positions that Ibo left decided that they will not relinquish those position because according to the Yoruba, Ibo abandoned their positions and do not deserve their position back, reminiscent of the abandon property thievery in Port Harcourt River State and Lagos. However, a dynamic developed as Ibo every morning dressed up and went and occupied the lobbies of their different offices that they used to work in. Tell me, if this is not manifest bravery of the highest order ever exhibited by any group in Nigeria and we are talking about days and weeks immediately after the war was declared over. But the final say as to whether or not the positions that Ibo left for dire life was going to be declared abandoned rested on the British that owned these companies. As the back and forth went on, the British started angling to make an economic decision because they understood the difference between the Ibo worker and the Yoruba worker and the three years of the civil war made that difference even more crystal clear to the British, if not, why would the British bother to accommodate the Ibo after such a long time? What became clear to the Yoruba was that the British were willing to make extra provision to re-absorb the Ibo any way possible. Yoruba was not ready to tolerate any of that because they knew that it was a matter of time before the wheat will be separated from the shaft that Ibo will assume their prominent positions. In order to prevent the British from re-absorbing the Ibo into these British owned companies, the corporate Yoruba decided to solicit the help of Awolowo who was then the finance minister and chairman of the federal military council. This is where a plan was hashed to wrest the control of these companies, consisting of banks, insurance companies, corporations of different kinds and types from the British. The best way Awo and his cabal found fit was to convince Gowon and the military leadership who in all probability have never had the word indigenization in their lives to promulgate the INDIGENIZATION DECREE in 1972 that stipulated that every foreign owned venture must transfer majority ownership to Nigerian indigenes within a year of the promulgation of the decree or they will forfeit the assets of the company to the Nigerian government. (Emphasis within a year) As expected, the British were caught off guide, not understanding the motive behind the policy, the British thought it was a dream or a joke that will go away, particularly given the fact that they just won the war against the Ibo for the Yoruba and Hausa. After exhausting six months out of the one year in their bid to reverse the decree, the British became frantic and concluded that they could not reverse the decree and went about trying to salvage whatever they could. What was worst was that the British did not even have enough time to evaluate the worth of their ventures because of the limited time the decree allowed, courtesy of Awo and cabal. The situation gave chaos a new name because the British were in chaos. So the first problem the British ran into was limited time that they couldn’t figure what the value of majority of their ventures were, they could not tell how much to sell them for. Mind you that this was happening within a year after the end of the civil war. At this time the Yoruba was running every conceivable federal ministries, departments and agencies plus all the corporations listed above and more that the British owned. It is important to point out that the north had little or no presence in the commerce economy of the country before the war and after the war except in the military leadership and infantry. The economy of the country was dominated by Ibo first and Yoruba second before the war. In order to solidify the economic dominance that the Yoruba attained during and after the war and to make their position even more potent in acquiring the British spoils, Awo as the finance minister and chairman of the federal military council and his Yoruba cabal decided to economically emasculate the Ibo understanding a) That Yoruba was fully running every conceivable federal parastatals b) That Yoruba was running every conceivable corporation that the British owned or had majority ownership as listed above. c) That Yoruba was managing all the Nigerian banks, insurance corporations, National shipping line, Nigerian airways, Nigerian’s Ports authority, Nigerian Railways and all the ministries, Departments and Agencies conceivable. Decided to destroy whatever was left of the Ibo and putting a finishing touch to it by a) Stealing through confiscating all the millions of pounds that Ibo had in all the Nigerian banks b) Offering every Ibo person £20 pounds regardless of how many millions they had in the Nigerian banks before the war. c) Militarizing every part of Ibo land. d) Rendering every Ibo without exception a pauper. e) Banning every importation of stock fish and used clothes to deprive the Ibo of any economic ability to compete with the Yoruba in buying into the British assets. When that day of infamy arrived for the British to start selling their assets, Igbo having been disenfranchised and emasculated in any and every way stood on the sideline watching the Yoruba in their glee as they scrambled to obtain loans from their Yoruba dominated banks to make the most minimal of offers to the British as there were no competitions. The British had no choice but to accept any offer as the alternative was losing everything to the federal government. The British lost pretty much all their investment to the Yoruba whose stock in trade is robbing and stealing any and everything they can get their hands on. Thousands of Yoruba became millionaires overnight and there was jubilation and owanbe all over Yoruba land. Yoruba had parties day and night and weekends. They closed streets to display their new found wealth as they partied. That day marked the economic death of Nigeria, that day marked the death of Nigerian’s aspiration to join the civilized world. The implication was enormous and it sent a shock wave throughout the Ibo land, It was a dark history day, it was a day of manifest wickedness and viciousness, Ibo was dumbfounded, the days that followed were days of economic , social and psychological morose and confusion that are still lingering today within the Ibo. It might be hard to accept but Awo got the Ibo good and the country as well, he brought the Ibo to his knees economically at least temporarily and Ibo has never recovered from that one blow seven akpus in any appreciable way but Nigeria as whole is worse off for it. I believe that what was more devastating was that Ibo had no place or body to turn to. To be blunt, Awo decapitated the Ibo leadership and through Ibo into great confusion. It is important to note that by this singular act of INDIGENIZATION DECREE engineered by the Yoruba, the Yoruba de facto constituted the new economic foundation, the sole owner and manager of Nigerian economy without any rivals. So, for those that have wondered why Ibo became traders, this is the why. The Yoruba will not let any Ibo near the management of any of these stolen corporations, will not let Ibo buy any shares of these corporations for decades following the heist. Now, some people without the capacity to comprehend the full seismic implication of this economic shift and restructuring will want us to believe that this does not matter and I will beg to disagree because it is like everything else, the foundation of everything matters and determines the success or failure, be it a house or business. As time has revealed, Yoruba stealing and forming the economic foundation for Nigeria was a bad idea and a monumental disaster. For the ignorants, all things being equal (in a fair fight) the Yoruba knew it, the British knew it, the Ibo knew it and the world knew it that the Yoruba did not possess the capacity, creativity, drive, perseverance, hard work and the competence to do what some are crediting to it if they did not conspire to steal not only from the British and Ibo but from everybody else that had any assets in Nigeria. The apparent dominant control the Yoruba has on the economy since after the war was not out of great honest smartness or creativity or innovation or hard work or competence but out of share robbery of the British and Ibo sweat and hard work. I believe that the question that the benign ignorant should be asking going forward is what did Yoruba do with all these assets and corporations that they stole? How did the country fair under the Yoruba management of the Nigerian economy? How did the Yoruba managed economy relate to today’s economic malaise. Hope they can make the connections. My next piece will try to capture the mind blowing implications of that great heist as it relates to Nigerians and Ibo in particular and the flight of international investment from Nigerian for decades. Fredrick. http://www.igbofocus.co.uk/The-Biafran-War/The-Greatest-Heist-in-Modern-H/the-greatest-heist-in-modern-history-by-awolowo-and-the-yorubas-.html |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Ezemust: 1:55pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Deadlytruth:why choose to discours one out of the issues I raised?and why go about pointing out the the negative of the confab relegating the postives?or are u trying to say that the confab must be perfect?come out of ur unbecoming biase mind let's discouse issues |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 2:02pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
omonnakoda: Miserable ass-licker, your numerous lies will found you out this new year. Nzeogwu, the January 1966 coup leader was a Niger-deltan from Delta-Igbo. And the other ring members are Kpera (Northerner), Ademoyega (Westerner) and Anuforo (Easterner). Those who leave the substance to chase shadows are as culpable as those who have caused the sacrifice of millions of lives for the sake of false 'One Nigeria'. You are free to pledge your allegiance to OduaArewanistan. It's a free world of choice wherein you have freedom of association. You don't expect every other person to tag along with you. N.B: The essence of this information is mainly to expose the lies of the notorious history distortionists and wicked propagandists who insult and malign others continually with lies and falsehood, and shout and make much noise on every available media. This a tribe that is after all well known for being loose cannons. Uncouth, uncivilised and disrespectful set of people who made a career out of abuse and slurs. The same treacheerous beings who precipitated the January 1966 coup and the 1967-70 civil war with their bloody 'Operation Wetie ' in the SW. They start trouble and heat up the polity only to run cowardly to hide in their evil Soka forest when the jungle matures. Disciple of hate and propaganda, here are the members of Yoruba tribe that participated in the January 1966 coup: (See Ben Gbulie: ‘Nigeria’s Five Majors.’). *Adewale Ademoyega is the most prominent Yoruba participant in the coup, there were other Yoruba officers who were involved at the dangerous execution stage of the coup. One of them is: *Second Lieutenant Olafimihan, an officer serving under Madiebo in Kaduna. He was sent by the plotters to gauge his commander’s loyalty. (See Madiebo pp.17-18). *Another is Lieutenant (some books refer to him as a Captain) Fola Oyewole. He, like Ademoyega, went on to fight for Biafra and wrote a book on his coup and wartime experiences. The book’s title is ‘Reluctant Rebel.’ *There is also Captain Ganiyu Adeleke who became an instructor in the Biafran Infantry School. For confirmation, see the list of coup plotters detained by Ironsi’s regime in Ademoyega pp.106-108, and this quote from Nowa Omoigui’s online account: ‘Mid-Western Invasion of 1967’: ‘Captain Ganiyu Adeleke, who had taken part in both the January 15 coup and the Mid-Western invasion before becoming an instructor in the Biafran School of Infantry was released at a later date after his co-plotters had been freed.’ Omoigui’s work is significant because, though he exhibits a high level of professionalism in his research, he has no sympathy for the January 15 coup. If his facts corroborate Ademoyega’s they are worthy of attention. For personal studies consult the following sources of my posts: *http://www.naijastories.com/2013/04/the-facts-and-fiction-of-the-january-15-1966-coup/ *https://www.nairaland.com/334770/famous-aburi-conference-full-minute/3 * Nowa Omoigui’s online account: ‘Mid-Western Invasion of 1967’ - where he mentioned ‘Captain Ganiyu Adeleke, who had taken part in both the January 15 coup and the Mid-Western invasion before becoming an instructor in the Biafran School of Infantry. * ‘Why We Struck’ - a book by Adewale Ademoyega, a full blooded Yoruba army officer, who was deeply involved in the planning and execution of the January 1966 coup. * Max Silloun (the military historian) landmark online article - ‘The inside story of Nigeria’s first military coup Parts 1 and 2 * 'Nigeria’s Five Majors’ - book by Ben Gbulie * Major General Alexander Madiebo - excerpts from his interview with National Mirror http://elombah.com/index.php/special-reports/13104-blame-gowon-and-awolowo-for-biafra-genocide-general-madiebo * ‘Reluctant Rebel’ - a book by Captain Fola Oyewole, who went on to fight for Biafra just like Ademoyega * See the list of coup plotters detained by Ironsi’s regime in Ademoyega pp.106-108 * Sanusi Lamido's writings, "Afenifere: Syllabus of Errors" published by This Day (The Sunday Newspaper) on Sept 27, 1998. * Sanusi Lamido's writings/publication in the weekly Trust entitled " The Igbo, the Yoruba and History" (Aug. 21, 1998) * Sanusi Lamido's paper presented at the “National Conference On The 1999 Constitution” Jointly Organised By The Network For Justice And The Vision Trust Foundation, At The Arewa House, Kaduna From 11th –12th September, 1999. * http://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/yorubas-are-the-problem-with-nigeria-by-sanusi-lamido-sanusi-elombah-com.111348/ Get the books and published papers and acquire some useful knowledge that can help you make informed decisions, and unravel the lies and propaganda being peddled in the public domain by the criminal 'sophisticated' tribe, even in this age of information technology. |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 2:42pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy:Misery will not depart your life. I cannot read this rubbish .It is too short . It has to be much longer to grab my interest 1 Like |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by abduljabbar4(m): 2:44pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy: You are the one that is spreading lies and propaganda here. I can sit down and fabricate a story and then attach a photo of an incident in another country to it. You are a learner 1 Like |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 2:48pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
omonnakoda: As you have started this year with lies, falsehood and propaganda against Igbos so shall your life be filled with those vices till they gush out from your orifices. |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by abduljabbar4(m): 2:50pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Deadlytruth: And these? EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows down Amalek and his people. EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave may be beaten to death with no punishment for the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die too quickly. EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor. EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay 3000 men. LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before your sword." LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children." LE 26:29 , DT 28:53 , JE 19:9 , EZ 5:8-10 As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends. LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An example is given in JG 11:30-39 ) NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great plague. NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven days because she and Aaron had spoken against Moses. NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at the Lord's command. NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open and swallow up the men and their households (including wives and children) because the men had been rebellious. NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250 men. NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700 people. NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the Canaanites. NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill many Israelites. NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until there was not one survivor left ...." NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses, take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun ...." NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly." NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the Lord. NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women and children. NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.) NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord. DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Sihon. DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Og. DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to "utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those whom he gives them for defeat. DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves." DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes." DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go. DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you." JS 1:1-9 , 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing for all the bloody endeavors to follow. JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua destroys the city of Jericho--men, women, and children--with the edge of the sword. JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are stoned to death because Achan had taken a taboo thing. JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men and women, so that there were none who escaped. JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites. JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Makkedah. JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Libnahites. JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Lachish. JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Eglonites. JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Hebronites. JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Debirites. JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua defeated the whole land ...; he left none remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded." JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung. (Exceedingly cruel.) JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was none left that breathed ...." JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against Israel in battle, in order that they should be utterly destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses." JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim. JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats 10,000 Canaanites at Bezek. JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his thumbs and big toes. JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites Jerusalem. JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who inhabited Zephath. JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites. JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600 Philistines with an oxgoad. JG 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it through the head of Sisera, fastening it to the ground. JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites, slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring the heads back to Gideon. JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of Penuel. JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers. JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people in the city. JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me, so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his servant ran him through, and he died." JG 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrifices his beloved daughter, his only child, according to a vow he has made with the Lord. JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a man and causes him to slay thirty men. JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the jawbone of an ass. JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's eyes. JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord, pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and causes his own death and that of 3000 other men and women. JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and unsuspecting people of Laish. JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men beat on the door of an old man's house demanding that he turn over to them a male house guest. Instead, the old man offers his virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do with them what seems good to you; but against this man do not do so vile a thing." The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of Israel. JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of valor" from amongst the Benjamites, "men and beasts and all that they found," and set their towns on fire. JG 21:10-12 "... Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and; also the women and little ones.... every male and every woman that has lain with a male you shall utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred young virgins whom they bring back for their own use. 1SA 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot soldiers. 1SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts the Philistines with tumors in their "secret parts," presumably for having stolen the Ark. 1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's abode.) 1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the Philistines. 1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his men cut down the Ammonites. 1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the Philistines. 1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites. 1SA 15:3 , 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass ....' And Saul ... utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword." 1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord ...." 1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry: "Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten thousands." 1SA 27:8-11 "David left neither man nor woman alive ....". (Note: This implies that children and infants were included in the slaughter.) 1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites. 2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel. 2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner. 2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth, behead him, and take his head to David. 2SA 4:12 David has Rechan and Baanah killed, their hands and feet cut off, and their bodies hanged by the pool at Hebron. 2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded him, and smote the Philistines ...." 2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having exposed himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren throughout her life. 2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's murderous conquests.) 2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the horses. 2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians. 2SA 8:6 , 14 "The Lord gave victory to David wherever he went." 2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the valley of salt and made the rest slaves. 2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians. 2SA 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he can marry Uriah's wife, Bathsheba. 2SA 12:1 , 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead for the sin that David has committed. 2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, rapes her, then hates her. 2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered. 2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the battle in the forest of Ephraim. 2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom. 2SA 20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and leave him "... wallowing in his own blood in the highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him, stopped." 2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel that kills 70,000 men. 1KI 2:24-25 Solomon has Adonijah murdered. 1KI 2:29-34 Solomon has Joab murdered. 1KI 2:46 Solomon has Shime-i murdered. 1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for eating bread and drinking water in a place where the Lord had previously told him not to. This is in spite of the fact that the man had subsequently been lied to by a prophet who told the man that an angel of the Lord said that it would be alright to eat and drink there. 1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000 remaining Syrians. 2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and consumes fifty men. 2KI 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and killed, presumably according to the will of God, for having jeered at a man of God. 2KI 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his descendants forever with leprosy. 2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's prayer and strikes the Syrians with blindness. Elisha tricks the blind Syrians and leads them to Samaria. 2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him." 2KI 9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram. 2KI 9:27 Jehu has Ahaziah killed. 2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has Jezebel killed. Her body is trampled by horses. Dogs eat her flesh so that only her skull, feet, and the palms of her hands remain. 2KI 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded, then sends the heads to their father. 2KI 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed. 2KI 10:17 "And when he came to Samaria, he slew all that remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he had wiped them out, according to the word of the Lord ...." 2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the Baal worshippers. 2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family. 2KI 14:5 , 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then 10,000 Edomites. 2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with leprosy for not having removed the "high places." 2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women who were pregnant. 2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men. 1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes." 2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered. 2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers. PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your little ones against the stones. PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains hands for war and fingers for battle. IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished." IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children." IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers." IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to become drunk on their own blood as with wine. JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth." LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by the sword are better off than those who die of famine; racked with hunger, they waste away for lack of food. ... pitiful women have cooked their own children, who became their food ..." EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: "... they will fall by the sword, famine and plague. He that is far away will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall by the sword, and he that survives and is spared will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the people lie slain among their idols around their altars, on every high hill and on all the mountaintops, under every spreading tree and every leafy oak ...." EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women ...." EZ 20:26 In order that he might horrify them, the Lord allowed the Israelites to defile themselves through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of their first-born children. EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off both the righteous and the wicked that his sword shall go against all flesh. EZ 23:25 , 47 God is going to slay the sons and daughters of those who were whores. EZ 23:34 "You shall ... pluck out your hair, and tear your breasts." HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." MI 3:2-3 "... who pluck off their skin ..., and their flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron." MT 3:12 , 8:12 , 10:21 , 13:30 , 42, 22:13 , 24:51 , 25:30 , LK 13:28 , JN 5:24 Some will spend eternity burning in Hell. There will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth. MT 10:21 "... the brother shall deliver up his brother to death, and the father his child, ... children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a man's enemies will be the members of his own family." MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses [the inhabitants of] three cities who were not sufficiently impressed with his great works. AC 13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a man (though not permanently). Dont start what you cant finish |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 2:55pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
abduljabbar4: Your lies, falsehood and propaganda can't sell as in the past. You're only wasting your time. However, I shall attempt to help you out: "A few minutes later, after I had regained my composure, I picked my phone to call my younger brother. But it was a Hausa man that replied me. And he said in Hausa tone and seemed to be mocking at the same time: ‘Ya broad, I'm dey die, I'm det die…hHa ha, now, I'm don die’. And at that point, the phone went dead. And that was when I blacked out too," Kayode said. http://thenationonlineng.com/dynamicpage.asp?id=71426 You maybe among the hopeless generation of hoodlums roaming the streets of Nigeria with daggers in their pockets. The same almajiris who sniff gutters to get high. Until those useless parents who send their unwanted kids to a mallam to turn them into jihadists are arrested and dealt with and the mallams that teach them this muslim extremist views are locked up for life,these things would continue. |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by abduljabbar4(m): 3:02pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy: Wait oo! You thought i was reading ur posts? 1 Like |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Deadlytruth(m): 3:06pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy: Your first disease is that your likes assume that whoever expresses his indignation with how Igbos, in pursuit of their dubious one Nigeria, frustrated all attempts to set Nigeria on the part of equity and justice; is a Yoruba man. I am not Yoruba and I don't really either speak or understand the language. Secondly, if you accepted Sanusi Lamido Sanusi's article claiming Yorubas are the problem of Nigeria, then you are obviously as dishonest and guilty of selective amnesia like him. If you really read through that piece of his without you Igbo-vindication seeking mindset you'd have noticed he blamed both Yorubas and even your own Igbos without reserving any single blame for his own Northern brothers who were actually the first to endanger the peaceful co-existence among Nigerians by their born-to-rule sloganeering which Awolowo did all his best to kill by seeking the all-south alliance but which your short-sighted Azikiwe rejected. You failed to notice that Sanusi forgot that the North, together with Igbos, planned and executed the first coup in Nigeria when the ravenous and directionless NCNC-NPC ruling coalition sponsored a bill which, with retroactive powers, returned Akintola to power without election in the Western House. Were you and Sanusi Lamidi expecting Awolowo to fold his arms and watch that NCNC-NPC coup without planning the counter action which he was later accused of? If till today an Igbo like you keeps identifying the remotest cause of Nigeria's misery as the North's born to rule mentality and yet accepted as valid an analysis on Nigeria's woes by Sanusi Lamido containing no single mention of that very born to rule mentality of his own brothers, then it means your educational qualification and logical ability need to be questioned and re-examined. You lie again by claiming Aguyi Ironsi did not dissolve the regions but used a quasi-unitary system to contain anarchy..... Why not quasi-federal? Why could his quasi-unitary system not contain the anarchy but even triggered more Igbo massacres right under his nose? Why were those increased massacres not enough to make him repeal his so called quasi-unitary system immediately? Who precipitated the anarchy if not your Igbo coupists? In actual fact Aguyi ironsi dismantled federalism completely and created 35 provinces with little or no autonomy for them each. All the other military decrees issued by Gowon and later OBJ were meant to curtail the excesses of Igbos who by that coup demonstrated they could not live comfortably in peace with others under an atmosphere of trust and harmony. Your hatred for OBJ today as a Yoruba product smacks of hypocrisy. You have forgotten that it was this same OBJ that rigged against his own Yorubas in favour of your Ekweme and shagari. Was it not you Igbos that, together with your old ally-the North- also voted OBJ back into office in 1999 when Yorubas rejected him flat? So whose fault is it that OBJ has now committed all the atrocities you have accused him of? All the corruption cases you listed above were carried out under the regime of OBJ which Igbos and the North with my own South-South blindly voted back into office in 1999 against common sense. So whose fault? The Yorubas'? On the Aburi accord issue; was it not Igbos and Zik that rejected the secession clause proposed by Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello in the 1957 London constitutional conference? That clause was meant to give to each region the constitutional right to exit the union if it later felt cheated. With such a clause all our future leaders would have been placed under the fear of the consequences of misgovernance and perhaps Nigeria would not have been this misgoverned. But Ojukwu did not complain when Azikiwe rejected it in that conference. However, just 10 years later Ojukwu began to make at Aburi the same demands which were all implicitly captured in the secession proposal which Azikiwe and NCNC rejected in pursuit of their fraud called "one-Nigeria". Aburi Accord as demanded by Ojukwu and Igbos was purely an afterthought. Those who earlier deny others freedom don't deserve it themselves..........Abraham Lincoln. 1 Like |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Amein(m): 3:19pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
abduljabbar4:Babaa wannan ai yayi tsauri da yawa. |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 3:22pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy:You reveal the wealth of your mind. Empty vessel 1 Like |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Deadlytruth(m): 3:22pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Ezemust: when the fundamentals of the very essence of a gathering are not among the items in the agenda, then of what use is any other positive feature in agenda? It is like believing the Uwais Electoral Reform Panel Report still had anything left in it after Yardua removed the two key recommendations that INEC chairmen be appointed through a judicial council and that the onus of proof of free and fair election shifts from the petitioner to INEC. You removed a car's engine and still wants to convince a buyer of its beautiful and new body. Very funny! 1 Like |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by abduljabbar4(m): 3:23pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Amein: Ai kasan makaryatan sai ana masu haka. |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 3:43pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Deadlytruth: A notorious treacheerous backstabber distorting history to massage the silly ego of his bile-filled, greedy, diabolic, lousy and cowardly hypocrites. Frustrated lying propagandist and history distortionist, the lies and falsehood your tribe are notoriously known for cannot stop IPOB. It's not a surprise to see a disciple of anger, slavery, hate and propaganda make career out of lies, falsehood, noise-making, propaganda, abuse and slurs. You are free to pledge your allegiance to OduaArewanistan. It's a free world of choice wherein you have freedom of association. You don't expect every other person to tag along with you. Despite the pseudo-president Yorubas had in the person of Obj who more or less kowtowed to the whims and caprices of his slave masters, the average Yoruba person do not have better welfare than the Igbo person. The Igbo Nation prides itself as having the highest concentration of middle-class citizens while squalor and penury pervade the Yoruba enclave. Nigeria economy assumed a downward trend when the gang acquired all Nigerian companies by virtue of indigenization decree of 1972. But they could not manage the companies instead they ruined, defrauded, liquidated, bankrupted and destroyed all the companies - that was the mother of destruction of Nigerian economy! The swindlers indeed bastardized the Nigerian economy. And to divert attention from their ineptitude and crass looting of the treasury they would use illogical reasoning to attempt to bamboozle other people while pointing accusing fingers elsewhere! After more than 40 years, despite the stolen wealth, the respective regions of the criminal gang cannot be said to be transformed and be one of the enviest in the world. None of their cities could be likened to, say the least, Johannesburg! Yorubas with their cohorts ruined this country with crass looting of the treasury and yet they shamelessly point accusing fingers on the Igbos who have been far from political power. In the build up to the 2015 general elections certain people made careless and careless utterances thereby heating up the polity. The likes of FFK, Fayose, Fashola, Tinubu, Lai, El Rufai, Junaid Mohammed, Obj and Sahara Reporters heated the polity with their utterances; none of them is Igbo! You lots have only flourished at the expense of others by virtue of the injustice, inequity and lopsided arrangement in the polity. And to add insult to injury the calibre of leaders Yorubas have presented to Nigerians are simply bunch of international drug peddlers, squandermanias and treasury looters. Obasanjo had 11 years to “do the needful” but failed Nigeria – Ameh Ebute October 21, 2014 at 10:30 am in News By Henry Umoru ABUJA- FORMER Senate President, Senator Ameh Ebute yesterday took a swipe at former President Olusegun Obasanjo, saying he failed to use his three years as a Military Head of State and eight years as an elected president to do the needful in solving the nation’s problems, just as he said if the former president had done his best in addressing some of these sectoral problems, Nigeria would have been better for it. According to Senator Ebute, former President Obasanjo could not fix critical roads like the Benin-Ore road; Lagos-Ibadan Expressway; Kano-Maiduguri road; the East West Road, just as he said that even his Otta-Abeokuta dual carriage were recklessly abandoned and could not be fixed in all his eight years as President, despite having more oil money from the Petroleum Ministry over which he personally superintended as President and oil Minister. Why should a President double as the Petroleum Minister of a country? http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/obasanjo-11-years-needful-failed-nigeria-ameh-ebute/ https://www.nairaland.com/792619/thief-obasanjo-he-wrecked-nigeria/4 GenBuhari: GenBuhari: People like you didn't see anything wrong with Radio Kudirat which was hit the airwaves in the 1990s or the highly inciting Radio Chanji in the North in the build up to the 2015 general elections. What have you and your folks done to counter the hate messages being preached in the mosques and the unconscionable, cold-hearted waste of human lives and reckless destruction of means of livelihoods in the North and Middle-belt? Don't you feign ignorance and look for the Igbos to lay accusation of provoking the pogrom in the North? Why do your wicked folks mischievously project Hausa-Fulani-Kanuris to be peace-loving and accommodative and yet great carnage and slaughter keep on happening in their region? What did you do when OPC were killing innocent people in Lagos during the June 12 saga? Ever since you were born, have you seen or heard anywhere Igbos are on rampage, killing people and destroying means of livelihoods for no just cause? Have any prominent Igbo personality insulted or maligned your father or race? Why do you parasites and miserable ass-lickers leave the nuisances posed by street urchins, almajiris and beggars to target Igbo traders, shops and markets for closure? It will do you and your Yoruba folks much good to leave out IPOB/NK from unnecessary mention and rather concentrate on consolidating your OduaArewanistan republic. N.B: The essence of this information is mainly to expose the lies of the notorious history distortionists and wicked propagandists who insult and malign others continually with lies and falsehood, and shout and make much noise on every available media. This a tribe that is after all well known for being loose cannons. Uncouth, uncivilised and disrespectful set of people who made a career out of abuse and slurs. The same treacheerous beings who precipitated the January 1966 coup and the 1967-70 civil war with their bloody 'Operation Wetie ' in the SW. They start trouble and heat up the polity only to run cowardly to hide in their evil Soka forest when the jungle matures. Disciple of hate and propaganda, here are the members of Yoruba tribe that participated in the January 15, 1966 coup: (See Ben Gbulie: ‘Nigeria’s Five Majors.’). *Adewale Ademoyega is the most prominent Yoruba participant in the coup, there were other Yoruba officers who were involved at the dangerous execution stage of the coup. One of them is: *Second Lieutenant Olafimihan, an officer serving under Madiebo in Kaduna. He was sent by the plotters to gauge his commander’s loyalty. (See Madiebo pp.17-18). *Another is Lieutenant (some books refer to him as a Captain) Fola Oyewole. He, like Ademoyega, went on to fight for Biafra and wrote a book on his coup and wartime experiences. The book’s title is ‘Reluctant Rebel.’ *There is also Captain Ganiyu Adeleke who became an instructor in the Biafran Infantry School. For confirmation, see the list of coup plotters detained by Ironsi’s regime in Ademoyega pp.106-108, and this quote from Nowa Omoigui’s online account: ‘Mid-Western Invasion of 1967’: ‘Captain Ganiyu Adeleke, who had taken part in both the January 15 coup and the Mid-Western invasion before becoming an instructor in the Biafran School of Infantry was released at a later date after his co-plotters had been freed.’ Omoigui’s work is significant because, though he exhibits a high level of professionalism in his research, he has no sympathy for the January 15 coup. If his facts corroborate Ademoyega’s they are worthy of attention. For personal studies consult the following sources of my posts: *http://www.naijastories.com/2013/04/the-facts-and-fiction-of-the-january-15-1966-coup/ *https://www.nairaland.com/334770/famous-aburi-conference-full-minute/3 * Nowa Omoigui’s online account: ‘Mid-Western Invasion of 1967’ - where he mentioned ‘Captain Ganiyu Adeleke, who had taken part in both the January 15 coup and the Mid-Western invasion before becoming an instructor in the Biafran School of Infantry. * ‘Why We Struck’ - a book by Adewale Ademoyega, a full blooded Yoruba army officer, who was deeply involved in the planning and execution of the January 1966 coup. * Max Silloun (the military historian) landmark online article - ‘The inside story of Nigeria’s first military coup Parts 1 and 2 * 'Nigeria’s Five Majors’ - book by Ben Gbulie * Major General Alexander Madiebo - excerpts from his interview with National Mirror http://elombah.com/index.php/special-reports/13104-blame-gowon-and-awolowo-for-biafra-genocide-general-madiebo * ‘Reluctant Rebel’ - a book by Captain Fola Oyewole, who went on to fight for Biafra just like Ademoyega * See the list of coup plotters detained by Ironsi’s regime in Ademoyega pp.106-108 * Sanusi Lamido's writings, "Afenifere: Syllabus of Errors" published by This Day (The Sunday Newspaper) on Sept 27, 1998. * Sanusi Lamido's writings/publication in the weekly Trust entitled " The Igbo, the Yoruba and History" (Aug. 21, 1998) * Sanusi Lamido's paper presented at the “National Conference On The 1999 Constitution” Jointly Organised By The Network For Justice And The Vision Trust Foundation, At The Arewa House, Kaduna From 11th –12th September, 1999. * http://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/yorubas-are-the-problem-with-nigeria-by-sanusi-lamido-sanusi-elombah-com.111348/ Get the books and published papers and acquire some useful knowledge that can help you make informed decisions, and unravel the lies and propaganda being peddled in the public domain by the criminal 'sophisticated' tribe, even in this age of information technology. |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 3:45pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
omonnakoda: Frustrated, loud-mouthed noisemaker! |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by LasgidyPort: 3:54pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
BiafranAvatar: It is not by crying all over the cyber space. We have taken the first critical step, which is voting out the lootocracy govt of the PDP that has been in the saddle all these years and did nothing about all that we have talked about. 1 Like |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 3:54pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy:The Eboes started coup making in Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by BiafranAvatar(m): 4:01pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
LasgidyPort: And what did you vote in? By this time next year it will be another feud of electioneering all over the nation that will take away your conciseness and before you realizes it–2019 is already by the corner... Nigeria is not untouchable which you know... |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 4:06pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
omonnakoda: Ask your Yorrubish father why Awolowo was imprisoned for treason before the 1966 coup. |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by LasgidyPort: 4:14pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
obailala: Wow, this killed it. You are so so on point. Only God knows what we free their minds. Their minds have been so polluted. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by Deadlytruth(m): 4:26pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy: Rather than address the specific issues raised you vomited all these long irrelevant and off-the-mark trash in the face of superior arguement as to how your tribe ruined Nigeria's federalism and replaced it with unitary system that has led to our 55 years of misery. You complain loads of marginalization and gang up against your region SE but forget that your people were first to tamper with the equitable system we had in place. You started a fight by punching others first and when the fight has gained full momentum you started complaining that the blows landing on you are too heavy. If you did not want marginalization, then why did you ever tamper with the federal structure? You thought you'll be able to compete favourably in an atmosphere of chaos so you caused chaos by tampering with the federal structure, but on realizing that you could not outdo others as you thought you would, you started asking for a return to federal system. Who are you to toss us up and down between two systems according to your whims and caprices? You don't know that greed has consequence? All you have complained of are only the brutal consequences of the chaos you caused by dismantling federalism. You need a crash programme on how brutal nemesis could be. You accuse everyone else of the evil you introduced into Nigeria. The Jan 1966 coup was an Igbo coup not by the composition of the planners but by the manner of execution. It is clear that Nzeogwu and the Yoruba officers were deceived into what they did not really understand. Even each of the over 300 Nigeria's ethnic groups had been represented in that coup, that would not have changed the fact that apart from Nzeogwu, all the other Igbos involved had a different agenda from the one the other accomplices were made to believe. 1 Like |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 4:41pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
Deadlytruth: Frustrated disciple of anger, slavery, hate and propaganda, Nzeogwu, the January 1966 coup leader was a Niger-deltan from Delta-Igbo. And the other ring members are Kpera (Northerner), Ademoyega (Westerner) and Anuforo (Easterner). The February 13, 1976 Dimka-led coupists came from Benue and Plateau region. They assassinated Murtala Mohammed then Head of State, yet there was no genocide carried against the Middle-belt people. Why was same treatment not given to the ethnic groups of the Dimka-led coupists that committed same offence? It's simply hypocrisy! It is even against the military rule to harm the innocent civilians during coup. According to the warped logic of you hypocritical bigots anytime there is a revolution or a coup the ethnic groups of the coup plotters should be singled out for ethnic cleansing![/color] Bloody, treacheerous, lousy noise-maker, you think you can cover up the atrocities of you saboteurs and your god, Obafemi Awolowo, who was the chief proponent of hatred, bitterness, tribalism, nepotism, propaganda and wickedness in this country? Those who leave the substance to chase shadows are as culpable as those who have caused the sacrifice of millions of lives for the sake of false 'One Nigeria'. Strange bedfellows of irreconcilable value systems cannot continue to be together. You are free to pledge your allegiance to OduaArewanistan. It's a free world of choice wherein you have freedom of association. You don't expect Igbos to tag along with miserable ass-licking slaves like you. damosthottest post: THIS WILL SHOCK MANY, A MASTERPIECE WRITTEN BY A NIGER DELTAN FROM URHOBO: ... this is coming from a Deltan, which will also shock many..., as they have tried to Divide us by State and Geo-political zones - Chike Michael. Ena Ofugara from Urhobo wrote: More On How A People Have Thrived in Adversity. Four years into independence, three years before civil war, see how Nigeria was treating IGBOS Now for you who may not understand why Igbos tried to leave the union, listen to parliamentarians.... Law makers in 1964 and tell me if it is your tribe you will not be like Ojukwu. Why would you want to be in a country where people treat you like this? Read for yourselves. "Northern House Of Assembly Proceedings, February-March 1964 Below is an extract from the proceedings of the Northern Region House of Assembly between February and March 1964, less than four years after Nigeria’s independence from the British. I have nothing to add. Read and judge for yourself: Mallam Muhammadu Mustapha Mande Gyan: On the allocation of plots to Ibos or allocation of stalls, I would like to advise the Minister that these people know how to make money, and we do not know the way and manner of getting about this business. We do not want Ibos to be allocated with plots. I do not want them to be given plots... Mallam Bashari Umaru: I would like (you), as a Minister of Land and Survey, to revoke forthwith all Certificates of Occupancy from the hands of the Ibos resident in the Region... (Applause). Mr. A. A. Agogede: I’m very glad that we are in a Moslem country, and the government of Northern Nigeria allowed some few Christians in the region to enjoy themselves according to the belief of their religion, but building of hotels should be taken away from the Igbos, and even if we find some Christians who are interested in building hotels and do not have money to do so, the government should aid them, instead of allowing Ibos to continue with their hotels. Dr. Iya Abubakar (Special Member, Lecturer, Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria): I am one of the strong believers in Nigerian unity, and I have hoped for our having a united Nigeria, but certainly if the present state of affairs continues, I hope the government will investigate first the desirability and secondly the possibility of extending Northernisation policy to the petty traders. (Applause). Mallam Mukhtar Bello: I would like to say something very important, that the Minister should take my appeal to the Federal Government about the Igbos in the post office. I wish the numbers of these Igbos be reduced…. There are too many of them in the North. They are like sardines and 1 think they are just too dangerous to the Region. Mallam Ibrahim Musa: Mr. Chairman, Sir. Well first and foremost, what I have to say before this Hon. House is that we should send a delegation to meet our Hon. Premier to move a motion in this very Budget Session that all the Ibos working in the Civil Service of Northern Nigeria, including the native authorities, whether they are contractors or not, should be repatriated at once... Mallam Bashari Umaru: There should be no contracts either from the government, native authorities, or private enterprises given to Ibo contractors (Government Bench: Good talk and shouts of “Fire the Southerners”). Again, Mr. Chairman, the foreign firms too should be given time limit to replace all Ibo in their firms by some other people. The Premier (Alhaji the Hon. Sir Ahmadu Bello, K.B.E., Sardauna of Sokoto): It is my most earnest desire that every post in the region, however small it is, be filled by a Northerner (Applause) Alhaji Usman Liman: What brought the Ibos into this region? They were here since the colonial days. Had it not been for the colonial rule, there would hardly have been any Ibo in this region. Now that there is no colonial rule, the Ibos should go back to their region. There should be no hesitation about the matter. Mr. Chairman, North is for Northerners, East for Easterners, West for Westerners, and the Federation is for us all. (Applause) The Minister of Land and Survey (Alhaji the Hon. Ibrahim Musa Cashash, O.B.E.): Mr. Chairman. Sir, I do not like to take up much of the time of this House in making explanations, but I would like to assure members that having heard their demands about Ibos holding land in Northern Nigeria, my ministry will do all it can to see that the demands of members are met. How to do this, when to do it, al1 these should not be disclosed. In due course, you will all see what will happen. (Applause). Culled from M. O. Onyenakeya, Igbos in Nigerian Politics, pp.30-32 https://m./426888550813216?view=permalink&id=466671230168281 It's only mischievous bigots in the society that turn blind eye to the evil and injustice, and permit the atrocities to flourish in the land because they gain from the lopsided arrangement in the polity. GENESIS OF HATRED IN NIGERIA 1* “We do not want our Southern neighbours to interfere in our development. We have never associated ourselves with the activities of these people. We do not know them, we do not recognize them, and we share no responsibility in their actions. We shall demand our rights when the time is ripe. If the British quit Nigeria now at this stage, the Northern people would continue their uninterrupted conquest to the sea”. - Sir Tafawa Balewa (1947) 2* “We the people of the North will continue our stated intention to conquer the South and to dip the Koran in the Atlantic ocean after the British leave our shores.” - Sir Ahmadu Bello (1957) 3* "The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grand father, Othman Danfodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use minorities in the North as willing tools and South as conquered territories and never allow them to rule over us or have control over their future" - Sir Ahmadu Bello, October 12, 1960 Ahmadu Bello, arrogantly uttered the aforementioned statement in a multicultural and multi-religious country and got away with it, and many bigots still hold him in high esteem and even shove it down the throats of other people. 4* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSosECbcmM 5*...barely six months after independence, Sir Ahmadu Bello was able to say with confidence in the Daily Times of May 3, 1961, the following: “I’m set and fully armed, to conquer the Action Group, AG, in the same ruthless manner as my grandfather conquered Alkalawa, a town in Sokoto province, during the last century.” 6*...sometime in 2010, when upon the demise of President Umaru Y'Ardua, indications emerged that his erstwhile deputy, President Goodluck Jonathan, may contest the 2011 presidential election, a prominent chieftain of this same ACF, Lawal Kaita, who was a former Governor of old Kaduna State, threatened that the North would make Nigeria ungovernable, should Jonathan or anyone from the South win the 2011 presidential election, claiming that such would amount to denying the North it's birthright of ruling Nigeria. 7* It is in the same North barbaric statements like this were uttered in 2011: ”BABOON AND DOG WILL BE SOAKED IN BLOOD”. And what was the outcome - carnage and murder of many Southerners and Christians in the North, including many Youth Corps members when Buhari lost the 2011 presidential election? 8* That true to that threat, upon the victory of Jonathan from the 2011 presidential election, massive violence was unleashed from the North by a group which called itself Boko Haram and which repeatedly took responsibility for unending mayhem which began with the killing of Youth Corp members who worked ad-hoc for INEC in that election. 9* As the barbaric killings and destructions reigned, especially with the attack by Boko Haram on the UN Building and Force Headquarters in Abuja, the Lower Niger Congress publicly posited that the nexus between the aforementioned threat by ACF's, Lawal Kaita and the Boko Haram's bloody campaigns summarily destroyed any prospects for keeping the Nigeria Union. 10* "It was, therefore, no surprise that in October 2013, following the bold announcement by President Jonathan, presenting the sudden prospect of revisiting the master-servant constitutional arrangements of Nigeria infuriated the warmongering born-to-rule Caliphate whose cause was championed by the same ACF, and who, supported by their allies from the renegade wing of the Yoruba Southwest, launched a vicious, frontal attack on the initiative, teaming on the floor of the Conference into a majority, and driving the Conference into its first major decision, i.e. NOT TO DISCUSS THE TERMS OF NIGERIA'S UNITY. The rest of the Conference was a jamboree that provided a luxurious platform for the North/SW Alliance, parading itself as a new political party named APC, to fine-tune their violent March to the do-or-die 2015 general elections." 11* Oba of Lagos Threat on Igbos Over 2015 Governorship http://expressng.com/2015/04/video-oba-rilwan-akiolu-threatening-igbos-in-lagos/ Oba Rilwane Akiolu of Lagos to Igbos - Vote APC or Perish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87u255UM6Ro |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 5:09pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy:You seem frustrated. Clearly you have run out of ideas |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by xtropy: 5:25pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
omonnakoda: Since 2015 when your non-return journey to insanity commenced your frustrations and wicked lies have known no bounds. Really by now you should be dancing unclad and performing at the market square for the pleasure of your kinsmen. |
Re: South East May Actually Been Marginalized; See Raesons by omonnakoda: 5:29pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
xtropy:Boring,You have nothing to say.Empty vessel |
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