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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by wink2015(m): 10:06am On Jan 09, 2016
[size=18pt]dokita! too no fit find jobs after they don read medicine for 11 years in the university[/size]

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by kennethchidi(m): 10:06am On Jan 09, 2016
Cpumping:
aswear im shocked.

so even doctors dey find work?

God abeg do and come.
lol.
Dats d bitter truth.
I waited for about 9months after graduation some years back, before I secured placement for housemanship after atleast about 4 interviews I know i scored very well,unfortunately no long leg. Got a placement after 9months when I had to start lobbying.
securing the govt job am onto now too.......dat one na very long story for another day! smiley
I know,colleagues who waited longer than I did too.
God help us.

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by kennethchidi(m): 10:08am On Jan 09, 2016
mentorandfriend:
You don't understand what the gentleman wrote there, or do you?
he doesn't bro,and dats part of the problem. Getting used to the wrong things dat it seems right to him.

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Armaggedon: 10:20am On Jan 09, 2016
Gr8amechi:
I am from delta state and do you know ethnicity has also done a great havoc here?? Like you said what we need is a national ideology, I feel we youths need a little uprising let's call a conference for ourselves and chat a path for ourselves, separation will only be needed if and only if there is no no head way, for me even if we separate it will not give us solution unless we tackle the root cause of our problems
you say 'root cause' ? What is the root cause other than the unfortunate sharp divisions along ethno-religious lines?

Do you ever think igbo, yoruba and Hausa youths will ever rise for a common purpose?

Against who? Doesn't the enemy have an Ethnic group?

Nzeogwu tried the uprising and it immediately became an 'Igbo coup' an led to a civil war.

It was not, is not, and will never be possible.

My dear there is no headway. Nigeria's situation is pathetic.

No nation develops when it spends a large chunk of its earnings trying to force its people to be united when in other clime pple themselves drive development

One thing about truth is that it keeps bringing up its stubborn head. Only the truth can save us.

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by phineas: 10:24am On Jan 09, 2016
Unserious kid on a pity party tale expecting life to be served by mummy and daddy like the undergrad days.I may be wrong. But this is how it works.You hustle.In every profession the hustle is real,you don't sit at home and expect housejob placements or real jobs for that matter.

Medecine is the job with the most opportunities at home and abroad for Nigerian graduates of medicine and you are there lamenting, the course that no week passes without calls for CV's in the paper.I'll bet you dont buy the papers and you're searching for jobs,Like seriously.If you feel there's no hope in Naija it takes 5 months to pass plab, leave and get a decent job in the UK,other options abound Australia,west indies etc so what are you waiting for?This post is for someone out there willing to help themselves.

Ill call it Phineas verses of wisdom for the brotherhood of the snake and cross.Sounds spooky,I know.

1-Be polite to your senior colleagues in school and stay in touch.
your senior colleagues are the key to opportunities in the medical world,that is students 3 yrs and above in school,they go ahead and by the time you are finshing NYSC they tell you of openings at their facilities,organizations and that of their collegues.

2-House job matter.
If you cant get into the federal system,stalk your state.Go to your state of origin,take a letter from your chairman, LGA Councillor,senator,grandfather,anybody just convince them repeatedly you're from your state,and have your family talk to everyone chances are you;ll get consideration above other applicants,If that fails,lots of private facilities offer housemanship,Baptist Hospitals,Catholic Hospitals,Eko Hospital,Not sure of ST Nicholas,etc.Arm yourself with that information and confirm their application periods,be willing to travel keep applying.You definitely cant be complaining about the 5k registration,if you're serious considering your speed of advancement and escape depends on this rate limiting step.

3-Decide if you're for Naija or "the Abroad",If Naija,For Clinical or Non Clinical Specialty
Decide and start your preparations in NYSC year with money saved from housejob.

4-If you're "the abroad" gang,
From start to finish it takes an average of 6 months to finish plab and start scouting for job placements which should take like 2 months thereabout for locum, after which you can then have good money to sort which of the abroad hustle you want. You can do PLAB from Naija travelling to and fro,during NYSC.
Save your housejob money for this purpose dont dash any relative eager to eat the fruit of their labour,save your parents though and even they should understand theres a bigger purpose to the picture.

5-If you're for Naija core Clinical,"the optimistic I want to serve my country and my people gang "(And you guyz deserve awards and acolades......)
(they eventually get disillusioned and join "the abroad gang" last last,or stay and grumble about everything whilst going on incessant strikes,or start Private practice)

Write primaries ASAP and start the search for residency ASAP,Consider same techniques as it was for Housejob Placements.
Don't waste time in PP except you own it,It is a waste of destinies.

6-If youre for Non core Clinical consider;
-Occupational Health-Company Dr
-Epidemiology-Disease surveillance etc
-Public Health-Program administration,project management, M&E, Research and Learning etc
-Health Financing and Health Insurance
-Humanitarian medecine
-dumping the stethoscope completely and starting farming for instance or politics,or work in the bank

If you've decided for Non Clinical,then Start gaining relevant experience Like ASAP in required field so you rise up the rank.
to find medical opportunities,read the dallies,apply and reapply,stay in touch with senior colleagues,volunteer.

Lastly Don't be afraid to travel all over Nigeria for opportunities,Now is the time to leave home in order to grow.Just be sure its the right kind of experience,that you are gathering,the kind you really want,and when you have sufficient experience don't sit and let life happen to you,apply and keep reapplying.Buy the papers ,use medical job sites for Nigeria and abroad.

Medcine in Nigeria is where some people earn 150k per month till midlife whilst some earn over 2m a month for years even in Naija.Ultimately,the choice is yours and how you choose to plan your life.

It certainly wont happen by whining about how unfair life is to you.

Summary is Medcine is a brotherhood,"don't be a lone wolf"

I hope this helps someone.

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Betti001(f): 10:28am On Jan 09, 2016
Raymondenyi:
This OP; stop all these nonsense u posting, to attract pity for u, it is totally uncalled for; all the issues u raiseed here holds no water @ all...
If u can pull urself tru med skool financially is it 5k, interview fee u can't pay? (dat I as well as u know, would have used such amount for drinks)... stop this nonsEnse...
The issue of MAN know Man, is a general problem in our nepotic environment, a reflection of a failed system, and 1 of our greatest challenge we as a country have refused to address... it happens everywhere...
Fighting for housejob space; Yes it happens, but u will definitely eventually get, it is [b]impossible [/b]for u to stay more than a year without getting an internship slot (stop deceiving the public kid)... getting a residency slot, is even more difficult, but the truth ; U'll eventually get, if u determined and really want to futher...

Modified...
I wonder why all d bashes? Anyway I only aired my honest and humble opinion (which i'm entitled to)
Anyway; its been a while. I did mine; guess things might have gotten worse...

I withdraw my comments... for those it hurt..
What did he say that is wrong? So because 5k is small makes it right? In which part of the universe is paying for a job application or interview right?

The guy exposed the truth and you are here chastising him for the truth. Are you for real?

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by maasoap(m): 10:39am On Jan 09, 2016
[s]
Raymondenyi:
This OP; stop all these nonsense u posting, to attract pity for u, it is totally uncalled for; all the issues u raiseed here holds no water @ all...
If u can pull urself tru med skool financially is it 5k, interview fee u can't pay? (dat I as well as u know, would have used such amount for drinks)... stop this nonsEnse...
The issue of MAN know Man, is a general problem in our nepotic environment, a reflection of a failed system, and 1 of our greatest challenge we as a country have refused to address... it happens everywhere...
Fighting for housejob space; Yes it happens, but u will definitely eventually get, it is [b]impossible [/b]for u to stay more than a year without getting an internship slot (stop deceiving the public kid)... getting a residency slot, is even more difficult, but the truth ; U'll eventually get, if u determined and really want to futher...

Modified...
I wonder why all d bashes? Anyway I only aired my honest and humble opinion (which i'm entitled to)
Anyway; its been a while. I did mine; guess things might have gotten worse...

I withdraw my comments... for those it hurt..
[/s] I need this guy's address, he deserves nothing but summary execution.

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Amucha: 10:42am On Jan 09, 2016
Kenkesh:
THE AGONY OF UNEMPLOYED MEDICAL GRADUATES IN NIGERIA©

It is no longer news to the world and especially to Nigerians, the rate and vigour with which corruption in its different forms has invaded every facet of Nigeria's institutions. It seems to have become part of the genetic composition of most Nigerians if not all.

An aspect that inevitably affect youth develepmont and empowerment is worth discussing taking the medical sector which plays a critical role in nation building and economic development:

1) Collection of mandatory levy from applicants --- this usually happens before the submission of applications for job interview, jobs that the applicant is not sure he/she will get.

While the present government is planning to alleviate poverty by paying the unemployed youth some token for their upkeep, these employers - so called government workers and heads of institutions - set up their own wicked strategies to impoverish these unemployed teeming number of medical and health graduates by collecting huge sums from them before allowing them to sit for job interviews.This is so common most especially among the teaching hospitals in the western and south-eastern part of the country.

Just last year(2015), UCTH and UPTH collected N5000 from newly graduated doctors for their interview. The same year UNILORIN Teaching Hospital collected the same amount for the same reason of job interview, LASUTH charged the same amount. Many other hospitals did the same. Currently, Ekiti State Teaching Hospital is collecting N5000 (being the price of the application form) from these newly graduated medical doctors. Bear in mind that these fresh doctors have to do their one year mandatory internship programme. They have temporary licences and must do this within a limited time. They are entirely on their own and must compete with one another and with doctors trained abroad for the few placements available in the qualified hospitals.

These graduates will not only pay the mandatory fee, but will also risk their lives transporting themselves to the various venues of these interviews, lodge in hotels and cater for themselves etc. Where will they get funds and supports from knowing fully well that they are yet to start work, implying that the burden stil falls back to their parents and guardians who must have spent enormously in seeing them through medical school. Why do these MDs and CMDs, want to further impoverish the already poor young graduates before giving them their rightful placements? Is it what the Federal Government asked them to do? These question demand urgent answers!

2) The epidemic of I.M (ima mmadu OR to know somebody) in Nigerian employment system:

Merit is no longer recognised in the Nigerian employment system. After paying a heavy application fee, working hard to pass an the interview, you still are not sure of getting the job unless you know somebody or somebody who know somebody within the institution who can secure the job for you. For example, how can the best graduating students of reputable colleges of medicine go for interview at institutions different from their alma mater & not even one of the best ten graduating students get placements. You have to know some body before you can get a job. Those that don't know any body are automatically hopeless.

How can you explain the fact that someone re-sitting his final exams (ie he has not yet graduated, has no license and can not apply for internship) nevertheless participates in the job interview organized by his alma mater and gets a placement ahead of those that have graduated.

The situation is really discouraging hard work among youths, since hard work is no longer recognised. NAUTH has been delaying the list of succesful candidates, presumably because of the same reasons.

3) Buying of placements:
Here, the employer will collect application fees, conduct interviews, cast all the result of the interview into the waste paper basket and then commence the phase of auctioning the placements. Huge sums are unofficially/covertly collected from the employees before employing them. In UNTH and ESUTH, many have had to pay at least N150,000 and above before they could get housemanship . Is this part of the Youth Empowerment Programme?

4) Ghost workers in Nigerian employment system:

This particularly refers to a situation where an institution accredited and financially equipped to employ for instance 200 workers, decides to employ about 150. It then takes appropriate measures to secure the salary of the other 50 for the boss' pocket.

Ghost workers exist almost everywhere in Nigerian institutions. Take the case of UNTH that is budgeted to employ/train 180 house officers, but only employs about 120-125, with about less than half of them being their own graduants while the rest are abroad-trained doctors who heavily lobbied themselves into the system.
This creates artificial scarcity of jobs, making it difficult and impossible for all the graduates to promptly do their mandatory one year internships. Just as happens during artificial fuel scarcity, these wicked MDs and CMDs enrich themselves grossly from these situations.

Another phenomenon probably unique to medical internships is the possibility of doing the internship more than once. The salary is attractive and there is lack of nationally centralized control over the internship programme. With the appropriate corrupt means at the individual's disposal, he/she can get a fresh placement in a different hospital and can do multiple internships. This obviously denies fresh graduates their rightful placements.

It is clear that our senior colleagues, our leaders, our fathers and our elders in privileged positions are the very ones frustrating the youths of this country.

What is happening in the medical sector is pitiable! The role of our CMDs is scandalous! The practice of young interns who block their unemployed colleagues from getting slots by doing internship over and over again to make more money is totally wicked and punishable by Medical and Dental Council of Nigeria(MDCN). The silence of MDCN on the ongoing mess is the height of negligence of duty to protect the profession from ridicule! Finally, the inability of young medical graduates to articulate their experiences and speak out to the authorities is an act of timidity. Evil thrives when good men fail to speak up! I just weep for our corrupt generation.

Let this serve as a clarion call to all individuals and agencies capable and responsible for looking into matters such as these to come to our rescue.

Thanks. God bless Nigeria

This is nothing compared to what other medical/health Professionals suffer. I don't think Op compared their situation with Doctors of Optometry who also spend Six to Seven years in school and their internship placement is rarely advertised, medical lab scientists, dentists, physiotherapists, etc.
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Nobody: 10:44am On Jan 09, 2016
I see them on a daily basis..... Anyway, I k ow of someone that uses his apartment as the hospital......no time. In fact it about the only hospital that is well reputed for good diagnosis around the area.
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by doeying(m): 10:45am On Jan 09, 2016
Demmocrats:



I understand your pain more than you know, its pathetic seeing others get juicy jobs because of IM.


You dint have to quote the entire post to give your comment....it would have gotten to the OP nonetheless...
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by tiptopy03(m): 10:45am On Jan 09, 2016
I feel your pains docs...


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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by hector: 10:47am On Jan 09, 2016
hmmm... this country sef
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by hector: 10:53am On Jan 09, 2016
phineas:
Unserious kid on a pity party tale expecting life to be served by mummy and daddy like the undergrad days.I may be wrong. But this is how it works.You hustle.In every profession the hustle its real,you don't sit at home and expect housejob placements or real jobs for that matter.

Medecine is the job with the most opportunities at home and abroad for Nigerian graduates of medicine and you are there lamenting, the course that no week passes without calls for CV's in the paper.I'll bet you dont buy the papers and you're searching for jobs,Like seriously.If you feel there's no hope in Naija it takes 5 months to pass plab, leave and get a decent job in the UK,other options abound Australia,west indies etc so what are you waiting for?This post is for someone out there willing to help themselves.

Ill call it Phineas verses of wisdom for the brotherhood of the snake and cross.Sounds spooky,I know.

1-Be polite to your senior colleagues in school and stay in touch.
you senior colleagues are the key to opportunities in the medical world,that is students 3 yrs and above in school,they go ahead and by the time you are finshing NYSC they tell you of openings at their facilities,organizations and that of their collegues.

2-House job matter.
If you cant get into the federal system,stalk your state.Go to your state of origin,take a letter from your chairman, LGA Councillor,senator,grandfather,anybody just convince them repeatedly you're from your state,and have your family talk to everyone chances are you;ll get consideration above other applicants,If that fails,lots of private facilities offer housemanship,Baptist Hospitals,Catholic Hospitals,Eko Hospital,Not sure of ST Nicholas,etc.Arm yourself with that information and confirm their application periods,be willing to travel keep applying.You definitely cant be complaining about the 5k registration,if you're serious considering your speed of advancement and escape depends on this rate limiting step.

3-Decide if you're for Naija or "the Abroad",If Naija,For Clinical or Non Clinical Specialty
Decide and start your preparations in NYSC year with money saved from housejob.

4-If you're "the abroad" gang,
From start to finish it takes an average of 6 months to finish plab and start scouting for job placements which should take like 2 months thereabout for locum, after which you can then have good money to sort which of the abroad hustle you want. You can do PLAB from Naija travelling to and fro,during NYSC.
Save your housejob money for this purpose dont dash any relative eager to eat the fruit of their labour,save your parents though and even they should understand theres a bigger purpose to the picture.

5-If you're for Naija core Clinical,"the I want to serve my country and my people"(And you guyz deserve awards and acolades......)
(they eventually get disillusioned and join "the abroad gang" last last,or stay and grumble about everything whilst going on incessant strikes,or start Private practice)

Write primaries ASAP and start the search for residency ASAP,Consider same techniques as it was for Housejob Placements.
Don't waste time in PP except you own it,It is a waste of destinies.

6-If youre for Non core Clinical consider;
-Occupational Health-Company Dr
-Epidemiology-Disease surveillance etc
-Public Health-Program administration,project management
-dumping the stethoscope completely and starting farming for instance or politics,or work in the bank

If you've decided for Non Clinical,then Start gaining relevant experience Like ASAP in required field so you rise up the rank.
to find medical opportunities,read the dallies,apply and reapply,stay in touch with senior colleagues,volunteer.

Lastly Don't be afraid to travel all over Nigeria for opportunities,Now is the time to leave home in order to grow.Just be sure its the right kind of experience,that you are gathering,the kind you really want,and when you have sufficient experience don't sit and let life happen to you,apply and keep reapplying.Buy the papers ,use medical job sites for Nigeria and abroad.

Medcine in Nigeria is where some people earn 150k per month till midlife whilst some earn over 2m a month for years even in Naija.Ultimately,the choice is yours and how you choose to plan your life.

Its certainly wont happen by whining about how unfair life is to you.

Summary is Medcine is a brotherhood,"don't be a lone wolf"

I hope this helps someone.

U are trying to cover up what is obviously a bad situation.

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by pentalk(m): 10:57am On Jan 09, 2016
abumeinben:
undecided

Doctors or all graduates...

Everywia una like preferential treatment...

The medical student wey welcome me to school during ma matric, na hin bid me bye bye when I do ma convocation.


But I pity them sha...but but must they do house job in teaching hospitals? What happens to other hospitals?

It's like when we dey find IT placement, every Engineering student wanted Chevron, total, MTN, Interswitch, GTBank, NNPC, SPDC, NPDC.....

At the end of 6 months, na only one month IT I did embarassed


It's not about being a big place or facility..housejob is a form of continuous training and its in d teaching hospitals u find enof consultants and residents to put u tru so u b better off afterall. Understood?
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Meritocracy: 11:34am On Jan 09, 2016
As far as youths are celebrating corrupt leaders and regarding looters arrest that stolen their destiny as witch hunt, they will do factory work

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Welcomme: 11:46am On Jan 09, 2016
Medical student unemplyed? Is the unemployment shit that seroous that medical doctors could b unemployed too?
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by ogawisdom(m): 12:37pm On Jan 09, 2016
Kenkesh:
THE AGONY OF UNEMPLOYED MEDICAL GRADUATES IN NIGERIA©

It is no longer news to the world and especially to Nigerians, the rate and vigour with which corruption in its different forms has invaded every facet of Nigeria's institutions. It seems to have become part of the genetic composition of most Nigerians if not all.

An aspect that inevitably affect youth develepmont and empowerment is worth discussing taking the medical sector which plays a critical role in nation building and economic development:

1) Collection of mandatory levy from applicants --- this usually happens before the submission of applications for job interview, jobs that the applicant is not sure he/she will get.

While the present government is planning to alleviate poverty by paying the unemployed youth some token for their upkeep, these employers - so called government workers and heads of institutions - set up their own wicked strategies to impoverish these unemployed teeming number of medical and health graduates by collecting huge sums from them before allowing them to sit for job interviews.This is so common most especially among the teaching hospitals in the western and south-eastern part of the country.

Just last year(2015), UCTH and UPTH collected N5000 from newly graduated doctors for their interview. The same year UNILORIN Teaching Hospital collected the same amount for the same reason of job interview, LASUTH charged the same amount. Many other hospitals did the same. Currently, Ekiti State Teaching Hospital is collecting N5000 (being the price of the application form) from these newly graduated medical doctors. Bear in mind that these fresh doctors have to do their one year mandatory internship programme. They have temporary licences and must do this within a limited time. They are entirely on their own and must compete with one another and with doctors trained abroad for the few placements available in the qualified hospitals.

These graduates will not only pay the mandatory fee, but will also risk their lives transporting themselves to the various venues of these interviews, lodge in hotels and cater for themselves etc. Where will they get funds and supports from knowing fully well that they are yet to start work, implying that the burden stil falls back to their parents and guardians who must have spent enormously in seeing them through medical school. Why do these MDs and CMDs, want to further impoverish the already poor young graduates before giving them their rightful placements? Is it what the Federal Government asked them to do? These question demand urgent answers!

2) The epidemic of I.M (ima mmadu OR to know somebody) in Nigerian employment system:

Merit is no longer recognised in the Nigerian employment system. After paying a heavy application fee, working hard to pass an the interview, you still are not sure of getting the job unless you know somebody or somebody who know somebody within the institution who can secure the job for you. For example, how can the best graduating students of reputable colleges of medicine go for interview at institutions different from their alma mater & not even one of the best ten graduating students get placements. You have to know some body before you can get a job. Those that don't know any body are automatically hopeless.

How can you explain the fact that someone re-sitting his final exams (ie he has not yet graduated, has no license and can not apply for internship) nevertheless participates in the job interview organized by his alma mater and gets a placement ahead of those that have graduated.

The situation is really discouraging hard work among youths, since hard work is no longer recognised. NAUTH has been delaying the list of succesful candidates, presumably because of the same reasons.

3) Buying of placements:
Here, the employer will collect application fees, conduct interviews, cast all the result of the interview into the waste paper basket and then commence the phase of auctioning the placements. Huge sums are unofficially/covertly collected from the employees before employing them. In UNTH and ESUTH, many have had to pay at least N150,000 and above before they could get housemanship . Is this part of the Youth Empowerment Programme?

4) Ghost workers in Nigerian employment system:

This particularly refers to a situation where an institution accredited and financially equipped to employ for instance 200 workers, decides to employ about 150. It then takes appropriate measures to secure the salary of the other 50 for the boss' pocket.

Ghost workers exist almost everywhere in Nigerian institutions. Take the case of UNTH that is budgeted to employ/train 180 house officers, but only employs about 120-125, with about less than half of them being their own graduants while the rest are abroad-trained doctors who heavily lobbied themselves into the system.
This creates artificial scarcity of jobs, making it difficult and impossible for all the graduates to promptly do their mandatory one year internships. Just as happens during artificial fuel scarcity, these wicked MDs and CMDs enrich themselves grossly from these situations.

Another phenomenon probably unique to medical internships is the possibility of doing the internship more than once. The salary is attractive and there is lack of nationally centralized control over the internship programme. With the appropriate corrupt means at the individual's disposal, he/she can get a fresh placement in a different hospital and can do multiple internships. This obviously denies fresh graduates their rightful placements.

It is clear that our senior colleagues, our leaders, our fathers and our elders in privileged positions are the very ones frustrating the youths of this country.

What is happening in the medical sector is pitiable! The role of our CMDs is scandalous! The practice of young interns who block their unemployed colleagues from getting slots by doing internship over and over again to make more money is totally wicked and punishable by Medical and Dental Council of Nigeria(MDCN). The silence of MDCN on the ongoing mess is the height of negligence of duty to protect the profession from ridicule! Finally, the inability of young medical graduates to articulate their experiences and speak out to the authorities is an act of timidity. Evil thrives when good men fail to speak up! I just weep for our corrupt generation.

Let this serve as a clarion call to all individuals and agencies capable and responsible for looking into matters such as these to come to our rescue.

Thanks. God bless Nigeria

Lol i thought doctors no dey find work as they will easily get one as they are scarce, nw I kw undecided instead of lamenting u guys shld go into agriculture lik other graduates n forget medicine we all can treat our malaria n typhoid without Doctors grin

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Jsean: 12:39pm On Jan 09, 2016
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by moshoodn(m): 12:56pm On Jan 09, 2016
Please, if you are a doctor, and currently unemployed, kindly buzz me via my signature....

**Will prefer a chat, than a call**

Regards.
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by godwinony(m): 1:03pm On Jan 09, 2016
Unemployed doctor? Nothing I no go hear/ read for this country sad
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Iko5000: 1:20pm On Jan 09, 2016
From what you are saying either you have left the country all you are a big man that does not what is happening to the common man at the moment.
Raymondenyi:
This OP; stop all these nonsense u posting, to attract pity for u, it is totally uncalled for; all the issues u raiseed here holds no water @ all...
If u can pull urself tru med skool financially is it 5k, interview fee u can't pay? (dat I as well as u know, would have used such amount for drinks)... stop this nonsEnse...
The issue of MAN know Man, is a general problem in our nepotic environment, a reflection of a failed system, and 1 of our greatest challenge we as a country have refused to address... it happens everywhere...
Fighting for housejob space; Yes it happens, but u will definitely eventually get, it is [b]impossible [/b]for u to stay more than a year without getting an internship slot (stop deceiving the public kid)... getting a residency slot, is even more difficult, but the truth ; U'll eventually get, if u determined and really want to futher...

Modified...
I wonder why all d bashes? Anyway I only aired my honest and humble opinion (which i'm entitled to)
Anyway; its been a while. I did mine; guess things might have gotten worse...

I withdraw my comments... for those it hurt..
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by jamace(m): 2:46pm On Jan 09, 2016
With Treasury Single Account system, the ghost workers syndrome will be defeated. Though, I observed that some institutions clamouring for business as usual are vehemently kicking against the TSA system because their "oil pipeline" will be blocked.

Govt MUST make TSA system MANDATORY for all sectors including the judiciary and legislatures.

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Ghost01(m): 3:29pm On Jan 09, 2016
Ybnm4life:
On a seriou note, I don't really want this monthly 5k approved by the govt for us graduates. I just hope this money can be put into our nigerian industries so as to create more employment for us.
Its better to show how to teach a man how to fish than to be giving him fish everytime he needs it... Just look at the rate of unemployment in Nigeria now and see what am talking about...
The 5k is not for you graduates. It is for those who are unemployed and vulnerable. And it is a very fine policy, seeing as the money will remain within the economy while addressing the needs of the poor.
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Mbediogu(m): 4:51pm On Jan 09, 2016
oyeludef:
So unemployment also now affects medical practitioners? Am surprised to hear dis

Yes it is true. Go to ImoHMB Owerri
and trend there is that u cannot move
an inch if u are not from same village or university as Oga in charge. I am yet to confirm the news circulating but if true, then Rochas is in order to privatize the system. He should go ahead and probe key post holders since 5years ago.
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by chachanga: 4:52pm On Jan 09, 2016
The rot's been there for a long while. The sh!t's just beginning to hit the fan, in-house is all.

Are you just realizing that we have a cabal worse than the fuel subsidy money-grubbers in the medical sector?

The MDCN and NMA did a lot to wreck the erstwhile seamless integration of the whole medical sector in their mad dash to achieve godlike status while milking the CONHESS pay grade system for all it was worth.

Having eaten up all their filthy vomit, they're now upping the ante with cannibalizing their own young.

May sound so harsh but the industry needs a shakeup; enough of blaming the government for everything!

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Dammiesugar(f): 5:53pm On Jan 09, 2016
Even unemployed Barristers are in town, may God help us in this country.
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Gr8amechi: 7:30pm On Jan 09, 2016
Armaggedon:
you say 'root cause' ? What is the root cause other than the unfortunate sharp divisions along ethno-religious lines?

Do you ever think igbo, yoruba and Hausa youths will ever rise for a common purpose?

Against who? Doesn't the enemy have an Ethnic group?

Nzeogwu tried the uprising and it immediately became an 'Igbo coup' an led to a civil war.

It was not, is not, and will never be possible.

My dear there is no headway. Nigeria's situation is pathetic.

No nation develops when it spends a large chunk of its earnings trying to force its people to be united when in other clime pple themselves drive development

One thing about truth is that it keeps bringing up its stubborn head. Only the truth can save us.
for the real facts you are not being honest, ethnicity is not about yoruba or igbo. I take delta state as a case study do you know how the urhobos' treat other ethnicity just because they are majority?? Even if you make Niger delta a country now the problem will only compound

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Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Osario: 8:59pm On Jan 09, 2016
Raymondenyi:
This OP; stop all these nonsense u posting, to attract pity for u, it is totally uncalled for; all the issues u raiseed here holds no water @ all...
If u can pull urself tru med skool financially is it 5k, interview fee u can't pay? (dat I as well as u know, would have used such amount for drinks)... stop this nonsEnse...
The issue of MAN know Man, is a general problem in our nepotic environment, a reflection of a failed system, and 1 of our greatest challenge we as a country have refused to address... it happens everywhere...

Wow! What a useless argument from a supposed physician. What an immoral opinion to express. Where in the world do people pay application fee for a job? Has the hopelessness of the Nigerian condition numbed your mind? With folks like you in the profession, I weep for my beloved country

Fighting for housejob space; Yes it happens, but u will definitely eventually get, it is [b]impossible [/b]for u to stay more than a year without getting an internship slot (stop deceiving the public kid)... getting a residency slot, is even more difficult, but the truth ; U'll eventually get, if u determined and really want to futher...

Modified...
I wonder why all d bashes? Anyway I only aired my honest and humble opinion (which i'm entitled to)
Anyway; its been a while. I did mine; guess things might have gotten worse...

I withdraw my comments... for those it hurt..
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:26pm On Jan 09, 2016
Kenkesh:
THE AGONY OF UNEMPLOYED MEDICAL GRADUATES IN NIGERIA©

It is no longer news to the world and especially to Nigerians, the rate and vigour with which corruption in its different forms has invaded every facet of Nigeria's institutions. It seems to have become part of the genetic composition of most Nigerians if not all.

An aspect that inevitably affect youth develepmont and empowerment is worth discussing taking the medical sector which plays a critical role in nation building and economic development:

1) Collection of mandatory levy from applicants --- this usually happens before the submission of applications for job interview, jobs that the applicant is not sure he/she will get.

While the present government is planning to alleviate poverty by paying the unemployed youth some token for their upkeep, these employers - so called government workers and heads of institutions - set up their own wicked strategies to impoverish these unemployed teeming number of medical and health graduates by collecting huge sums from them before allowing them to sit for job interviews.This is so common most especially among the teaching hospitals in the western and south-eastern part of the country.

Just last year(2015), UCTH and UPTH collected N5000 from newly graduated doctors for their interview. The same year UNILORIN Teaching Hospital collected the same amount for the same reason of job interview, LASUTH charged the same amount. Many other hospitals did the same. Currently, Ekiti State Teaching Hospital is collecting N5000 (being the price of the application form) from these newly graduated medical doctors. Bear in mind that these fresh doctors have to do their one year mandatory internship programme. They have temporary licences and must do this within a limited time. They are entirely on their own and must compete with one another and with doctors trained abroad for the few placements available in the qualified hospitals.

These graduates will not only pay the mandatory fee, but will also risk their lives transporting themselves to the various venues of these interviews, lodge in hotels and cater for themselves etc. Where will they get funds and supports from knowing fully well that they are yet to start work, implying that the burden stil falls back to their parents and guardians who must have spent enormously in seeing them through medical school. Why do these MDs and CMDs, want to further impoverish the already poor young graduates before giving them their rightful placements? Is it what the Federal Government asked them to do? These question demand urgent answers!

2) The epidemic of I.M (ima mmadu OR to know somebody) in Nigerian employment system:

Merit is no longer recognised in the Nigerian employment system. After paying a heavy application fee, working hard to pass an the interview, you still are not sure of getting the job unless you know somebody or somebody who know somebody within the institution who can secure the job for you. For example, how can the best graduating students of reputable colleges of medicine go for interview at institutions different from their alma mater & not even one of the best ten graduating students get placements. You have to know some body before you can get a job. Those that don't know any body are automatically hopeless.

How can you explain the fact that someone re-sitting his final exams (ie he has not yet graduated, has no license and can not apply for internship) nevertheless participates in the job interview organized by his alma mater and gets a placement ahead of those that have graduated.

The situation is really discouraging hard work among youths, since hard work is no longer recognised. NAUTH has been delaying the list of succesful candidates, presumably because of the same reasons.

3) Buying of placements:
Here, the employer will collect application fees, conduct interviews, cast all the result of the interview into the waste paper basket and then commence the phase of auctioning the placements. Huge sums are unofficially/covertly collected from the employees before employing them. In UNTH and ESUTH, many have had to pay at least N150,000 and above before they could get housemanship . Is this part of the Youth Empowerment Programme?

4) Ghost workers in Nigerian employment system:

This particularly refers to a situation where an institution accredited and financially equipped to employ for instance 200 workers, decides to employ about 150. It then takes appropriate measures to secure the salary of the other 50 for the boss' pocket.

Ghost workers exist almost everywhere in Nigerian institutions. Take the case of UNTH that is budgeted to employ/train 180 house officers, but only employs about 120-125, with about less than half of them being their own graduants while the rest are abroad-trained doctors who heavily lobbied themselves into the system.
This creates artificial scarcity of jobs, making it difficult and impossible for all the graduates to promptly do their mandatory one year internships. Just as happens during artificial fuel scarcity, these wicked MDs and CMDs enrich themselves grossly from these situations.

Another phenomenon probably unique to medical internships is the possibility of doing the internship more than once. The salary is attractive and there is lack of nationally centralized control over the internship programme. With the appropriate corrupt means at the individual's disposal, he/she can get a fresh placement in a different hospital and can do multiple internships. This obviously denies fresh graduates their rightful placements.

It is clear that our senior colleagues, our leaders, our fathers and our elders in privileged positions are the very ones frustrating the youths of this country.

What is happening in the medical sector is pitiable! The role of our CMDs is scandalous! The practice of young interns who block their unemployed colleagues from getting slots by doing internship over and over again to make more money is totally wicked and punishable by Medical and Dental Council of Nigeria(MDCN). The silence of MDCN on the ongoing mess is the height of negligence of duty to protect the profession from ridicule! Finally, the inability of young medical graduates to articulate their experiences and speak out to the authorities is an act of timidity. Evil thrives when good men fail to speak up! I just weep for our corrupt generation.

Let this serve as a clarion call to all individuals and agencies capable and responsible for looking into matters such as these to come to our rescue.

Thanks. God bless Nigeria
Bro, are you a medical graduate? I'm sorry about what is happening in the health sector but you guys are part of the problem. I'm a graduate of physiology. Scholarships are not awarded to any other class of students in the medical school except medicine and surgery/dental students. Physiology, anatomy and biochemistry are pushed to the background. And if you see the way these guys puff their shoulders eh...you'll regret studying any other course in the university. So in such a case as this, I do not know whether to be happy or sad. All the same, I'll pray for ya. Good luck.
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by macaranta(m): 9:40pm On Jan 09, 2016
So saddening that medical doctors now look for jobs.
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by desy24444(m): 10:29pm On Jan 09, 2016
MIKOLOWISKA:
you know how many of una seniors don be part of these successive govt. what are you doing to change it
help me ask him who has be heading d ministry of health......d doctors are part of the govt
Re: The Agony Of Unemployed Medical Graduates In Nigeria by Swints: 10:53pm On Jan 09, 2016
DBestDoc:


Read your comment well, then come back and tell us who is talking trash, you or the Op..
Which certificate are they verifying when they already have temporary practice licence issued by the MDCN?

IMO, if MDCN is a competent body, then all verification done by them before issuing temporary licences is good enough.

Lets say verification is needed, what does it take for the Hospital to contact various schools and verify candidates' info. from them in this internet era? The hospitals have departments structured for this purpose with paid staff.

5k sounds small but that is just to apply to one Hospital. For someone applying to four different hospitals, it amounts to 20k, excluding transportation, accommodation and feeding cost. Do the maths bearing in mind that this person is an applicant without a steady source of income.

The more we make excuses for stuffs like this, the more the country goes from bad to worse.
Really? Well the money is used to verify if that so called temporary license is for real. And internet era is not working out very well yet in naija as we all know that must government establishment are not yet fully into the internet thing so usually they send most of this things by post.

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