Henry240:


What does the Block 52's service entry have to do with anything?

AugustineAgain:


It failed, 2011 technical resesrch report FROM INSIDE SOUTH AFRICA BY SOUTH AFRICAN EXPERTS says Link ZA failed to perfom across different equipment, it was a huge disappointment. Sorry your Reutech manufacturer is too ashamed to admit failure publicly.

Here is the proof of Link ZA 80% failure

http://www.argospress.com/jbt/article_abstracts/14-3-2-abstract.pdf

SANDF got an overpriced intercom instead

jln115:

Did I say SAAF uses the PS/05 mk4??

We use the mk3 which can track a 0.5m2 target at 120km!

We will however be getting the mk4 version when we upgrade to block20.

AugustineAgain:

Liar !! Fraud !!
"Saab has a long experience in development of radars for fighter aircraft. PS-05/A for the Gripen aircraft has been in service since 1992. At present, the Gripen with PS-05/A operates in several countries.
Reference customers include the air forces of Sweden, South Africa, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Thailand."
http://saab.com/air/sensor-systems/fighter-radar/ps-05-a/
Your air force Gripen flies with an obsolete 25 year old radar confirmed by SAAB that sold the radar to you !!! JF-17 has a more modern radar than SAAF Gripen
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AugustineAgain:


Liar !! Fraud !!

"Saab has a long experience in development of radars for fighter aircraft. PS-05/A for the Gripen aircraft has been in service since 1992. At present, the Gripen with PS-05/A operates in several countries.

Reference customers include the air forces of Sweden, South Africa, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Thailand."

http://saab.com/air/sensor-systems/fighter-radar/ps-05-a/


Your air force Gripen flies with an obsolete 25 year old radar confirmed by SAAB that sold the radar to you !!! JF-17 has a year 2005 modern radar with 135 km range, a more modern radar than SAAF Gripen
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AugustineAgain:


Liar !! Fraud !!

"Saab has a long experience in development of radars for fighter aircraft. PS-05/A for the Gripen aircraft has been in service since 1992. At present, the Gripen with PS-05/A operates in several countries.

Reference customers include the air forces of Sweden, South Africa, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Thailand."

http://saab.com/air/sensor-systems/fighter-radar/ps-05-a/


Your air force Gripen flies with an obsolete 25 year old radar confirmed by SAAB that sold the radar to you !!! JF-17 has a year 2005 modern radar with 135 km range, a more modern radar than SAAF Gripen
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jln115:

How fvcking ret@rded are you??

http://saabgroup.com/Media/news-press/news/2015-04/upgraded-ps-05a-radar-gives-gripen-cd/

AugustineAgain:


The above weblink says NOTHING about South African Gripen radar, it only talks about 2015 uogrades which SAAF DOES NOT HAVE on your obsolescent Gripen jets with obsolete 25 year old radar. JF-17 Thunder flies with superior and modern year 2005 KLJ-7 radar with an even superior 135 km range.

JF-17 beats Gripen, flat !
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Patchesagain:


You are bragging about being on par with capabilities available before the Gripes even entered service

AugustineAgain:


The above weblink says NOTHING about South African Gripen radar, it only talks about 2015 uogrades which SAAF DOES NOT HAVE on your obsolescent Gripen jets with obsolete 25 year old radar. JF-17 Thunder flies with superior and modern year 2005 KLJ-7 radar with an even superior 135 km range.

JF-17 beats Gripen, flat !
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Henry240:


I'm bragging about an Aircraft which is better than SAAF Gripen jets in capabilities and pricing. That's what i'm bragging about.

mzilakazi:
JF-17 has a radar range of

Up looking = 105 Km
Down looking= 85

It has a huge RCS of 5 sq mtr compare to that of Gripens 0.5 sq mtr

For more specs.

Official JF-17 web


http://www.jf-17.com/avionics/


Gripen wins. It has radar range of 125 KM

jln115:

Fvck!!!! Don't you ever read my posts? I never once said SAAF uses the PS/05 mk4... I said we use the mk 3 version that can track a 0.5m2 target at 120km, that means it can track a SU30 at over 150km.

And I don't give a Fvck about your Junk Fighter since NAF does not have any!!

AugustineAgain:


SAAF ordered Gripen in 1999, the Mk 3 radar did not exist at that time.

Show us proof that SAAF got Mk 3 radar....SAAB says they sold 1992 version of the radar to you.

Prove that you got mk 3, prove it....

AugustineAgain:


That website is NOT an official JF-17 websit, check the contact menu, the owner of the website is unknown.....you dummy cant even think independently.

JF-17 max radar range is 135 km and beats Gripen's 120 km...

https://shamazkhan./tag/klj-7-radar/
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jln115:

Listen dumbdumb the mk3 was sold standard with all Gripen C/Ds the older Gripen A/Bs used the mk1version.

AugustineAgain:


Post source to prove that, post us a weblink, official source.

AugustineAgain:


That website is NOT an official JF-17 website, check the contact menu, the owner of the website is unknown.....you dummy cant even think independently.

JF-17 max radar range is 135 km and beats Gripen's 120 km...

https://shamazkhan./tag/klj-7-radar/
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jln115:

I'm not here to spoon feed you, if you don't believe me go Google it!!

RooiBoi:


Ga ga gu gu, I'm Augustuse and I need sources gaga gugu

mzilakazi:
DO YOU KNOW THAT THE JUNK FIGHTER CAN ONLY SHOOT 70-100 BVR RANGE, WHILE THE MIGHTY GRIPEN CAN SHOOT FROM 100-120KM BVR RANGE.
JUNK FIGHTER RADAR CAN ONLY DETECT OBJECTS WITH RCS OF 5 SQUARE METER.
OH WHAT A FAILURE AGAINST A GRIPEN!!

EVarn:
Nonsense,no one has detailed schematics of the JF-17(except the chinese and pakistani ministries of defence); so most analysis about its operational capabilities are either speculative or incomplete.
But from what we know,the JF-17 definitely has a BVR range of over 140km at maximum,which outpaces the gripen by more than 20-40km,and the advanced block is being fitted with AESA radar.
JF-17 is by no means a rookie warplane,if it is,why then is it being offered to Argentina?,everyone knows the aerial power that can be fielded by the UK.

AugustineAgain:


That website is NOT an official JF-17 website, check the contact menu, the owner of the website is unknown.....you dummy cant even think independently.

JF-17 max radar range is 135 km and beats Gripen's 120 km...

https://shamazkhan./tag/klj-7-radar/
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jln115:

Neither is your source ret@rd!! You shoot yourself more times in the foot, than you can count.

mzilakazi:


Stop bringing WordPress here because that is a blog. You failed. My source is much better credible than yours. Wordpress is a cheap web that comes free for bloggers. YOU FAILED.

Junk Fighters radar range stand at 105 km. Final

agaugust:


Your source has NO name, NO contact address, NO I.D.....My source is a named and profiled jet fighter pilot inside Pakistan itself.

"As a fighter pilot I know from my own experiences how decisive surprise and luck can be for success, which in the long run comes only to the one who combines daring with cool thinking.[unknown]

About Me: Engineer, Blogger and photographer, if that fits the description. I am neither a journalist nor good at writing big articles,This blog is just the collection of some of my thoughts about what’s going around me, and some stories that i prefer to share. I prefer to write about Aerospace and Defence Industry. Thanks for stopping by and happy reading."

https://shamazkhan./tag/klj-7-radar/

His words can be taken for facts from direct source inside Pakistani air force. Your own source is from Mr.Nobody, not that his facts are wrong, but they are incomplete and less detailed than the PAF pilot's website

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agaugust:


Nope, its not a public commentary blog, it is a wordpress page and they usually call them blogs, but this website has no public comments or do you see people writing anyhow on his page? The man is a jet fighter pilot from inside Pakistani air force !


"As a fighter pilot I know from my own experiences how decisive surprise and luck can be for success, which in the long run comes only to the one who combines daring with cool thinking.[unknown]

About Me: Engineer, Blogger and photographer, if that fits the description. I am neither a journalist nor good at writing big articles,This blog is just the collection of some of my thoughts about what’s going around me, and some stories that i prefer to share. I prefer to write about Aerospace and Defence Industry. Thanks for stopping by and happy reading."

https://shamazkhan./tag/klj-7-radar/

His words can be taken for facts from direct source inside Pakistani air force, he says JF-17 radar is 135 km max range. FACT !
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FighterPilot:


So is that your own source? I asking to allow me to destroy you with your own source and here I quote from your source:

The detection range for targets with a radar cross-section of 5 square meters is stated to be ≥105 km (≥85 km in look-down mode). Surface sea targets can be detected at up to 135 km

1.Now see here when it comes to radar search there is a difference between hard ground targets and sea surfac targets. Do that research.

2. JLF-7 radar fitted to the Junk Fighter can detect targets with radar cross section (RCS) of 5 square meters at >/=105 km. Now, Gripen has an RCS of 0.1square meter, almost has stealth capabilities. That means Gripen will remain undetected on the JF-17 avionics until to about less than 20 KM. That will be a lot risky especially when Gripen is armed with a BVR weapons.

I hope you can now see why is the Junk Fighter weak.