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agaugust:
South Africa is as lawless as any other 3rd world country, crime, corruption, incompetence, etc all over SA you even bribed a whole FIFA to win world cup hosting rights. Pooh pooh, whose gonna chase after Helmod for repeating SANDF official propaganda story? He is just helping your government spread its lies, he has ZERO liability as he quotes SANDF as source, no error is attributed to an authour who quotes a source for his writing.


The fücking ebook wont download for free, its asking me for money. If you downloaded it then post the pages for us to see or you are afraid your lies will be exposed ?

Show us the relevant pages of the book sincle you claim to have read it...Liar !!!
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Sorry buddy, but we rank 67th least corrupt nation, Nigeria ranks 136th, so ur opinion doesnt really bother me

Secondly:

THE BATTLE IN BANGUI: THE UNTOLD INSIDE STORY
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Published in South Africa in 2013 by PARKTOWN PUBLISHERS (Pty) Ltd Trading as MAMPOER SHORTS Harrow Court 1, Isle of Houghton, Boundary Road, Parktown, Johannesburg 2011/107084/07 Copyright © Parktown Publishers, South Africa, 2013 HH_Battle20130408
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Email: administrator@mampoer.co.za MampoerShorts promotes South Africa’s top writers. All writers are paid via royalties. Support South Africa’s first long-form journalism venture. All rights reserved. Without limiting the rights under copyright reserved above, no part of this may be reproduced, stored or introduced into a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form, or by any means (electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise) without the prior written permission of the copyright owner. Author: Helmoed Heitman ISBN 978-0-9921902-8-6

So as you can see i have the book unfortunately it would be against the law if i scanned the pages on to NL.

Secondly i dont know why your trying to download it from ebooks just download it from here: http://www.warbooks.co.za/search?q=Battle+of+Bangui

Agubububu i see you airforce like our INGWE anti-tank missile......... Lmao watch this space. Ooooo i know you dont like us but ya eat your shitttttt.

Henry240:
Evidence exists. Conclusive does not exist in Nigeria's defence procurement, we do not issue RFIs or Tenders. We run a secret defence procurement scheme. This is basic knowledge.


For example, tell me the number of MI-17s the Air Force got last year?

How many did we order in 2015?

1. If by "secret" you mean "corrupt" then yes it is,

2. So you admit then that you are simply inventing numbers?

Patchesagain:
1. If by "secret" you mean "corrupt" then yes it is,

2. So you admit then that you are simply inventing numbers?

1. The Nigerian system is not corrupt. It's a far less corrupt system than that of RSA


2. Do you even have a functional brain at all? All links regarding Nigerian purchases have been provided. They are all in this thread.

Troop101:
Agubububu i see you airforce like our INGWE anti-tank missile......... Lmao watch this space. Ooooo i know you dont like us but ya eat your shitttttt.

Retarrded Afrikanner.

jln115:
Sorry buddy, but we rank 67th least corrupt nation, Nigeria ranks 136th, so ur opinion doesnt really bother me

Secondly:

THE BATTLE IN BANGUI: THE UNTOLD INSIDE STORY
4
Published in South Africa in 2013 by PARKTOWN PUBLISHERS (Pty) Ltd Trading as MAMPOER SHORTS Harrow Court 1, Isle of Houghton, Boundary Road, Parktown, Johannesburg 2011/107084/07 Copyright © Parktown Publishers, South Africa, 2013 HH_Battle20130408
Website: www.mampoer.co.za Follow us on Twitter @MampoerShorts
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Email: administrator@mampoer.co.za MampoerShorts promotes South Africa’s top writers. All writers are paid via royalties. Support South Africa’s first long-form journalism venture. All rights reserved. Without limiting the rights under copyright reserved above, no part of this may be reproduced, stored or introduced into a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form, or by any means (electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise) without the prior written permission of the copyright owner. Author: Helmoed Heitman ISBN 978-0-9921902-8-6

So as you can see i have the book unfortunately it would be against the law if i scanned the pages on to NL.

Secondly i dont know why your trying to download it from ebooks just download it from here: http://www.warbooks.co.za/search?q=Battle+of+Bangui

Liar, you have NOT read the book until you post proof by showing us relevant pages.

Your above post is büllshiiiit, is that the content and story inside the book?

You remain a liar, no law against pasting the content of a FREE BOOK on nairaland, you have no Helmod book on Bangui battle until you post pages as evidence !!!

We are still waiting for your proof....Liar

agaugust:
Liar, you have NOT read the book until you post proof by showing us relevant pages.

Your above post is büllshiiiit, is that the content and story inside the book?

You remain a liar, no law against pasting the content of a FREE BOOK on nairaland, you have no Helmod book on Bangui battle until you post pages as evidence !!!

We are still waiting for your proof....Liar

Look retaard!!! i posted the 3rd page of the book. I know Nigeria is a lawless country where you can breach copy right as much as you like, but in South Africa it's a crime regardless if the book was free or not!

All rights reserved. Without limiting the rights under copyright reserved above, no part of this may be reproduced, stored or introduced into a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form, or by any means (electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise) without the prior written permission of the copyright owner. Author: Helmoed Heitman ISBN 978-0-9921902-8-6

Henry240:
1. The Nigerian system is not corrupt. It's a far less corrupt system than that of RSA


2. Do you even have a functional brain at all? All links regarding Nigerian purchases have been provided. They are all in this thread.

1. Not according to the corruption index

2. You have shown to have some of the units you claim, but there is zero evidence for the "500 or so" units you claim

Patchesagain:
1. Not according to the corruption index

2. You have shown to have some of the units you claim, but there is zero evidence for the "500 or so" units you claim

Humour me, what are the numbers?


* I said between 450-500. With 450 been the basic number.

Henry240:
1. The Nigerian system is not corrupt. It's a far less corrupt system than that of RSA


2. Do you even have a functional brain at all? All links regarding Nigerian purchases have been provided. They are all in this thread.

You must be sick. When the world came to know about corruption or even talks about it, they used Nigeria as a perfect example and case study. Nigeria was told to be the only place in the world where corruption was legal tender.

The only thing here is that SA is more open with corruption than Nigeria. In Nigeria publishings of corruption cases are suppressed. Look at Dasuki who ran away with a whooping $2 billion and such has never happened in SA. Nigeria is dark red in corruption perceptions index.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Henry240:
I have no reason to make things up. Those are the numbers.


- Big-Foot MRAPs - Donated by China, less than 10

- Reva MRAPs- Only about 15, bought from SA specially for mercenaries

- Igirigi LAV-Only handful

- Streit group Nigeria Spartan LAV- Only handful

- Streit group UAE Warrior LAV- Only handful

- Inkas Nigeria LAV-Only handful

- 32 American MRAPs, US donated only 24. http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/196345-us-donates-24-used-mine-resistant-vehicles-to-nigeria-2.html

All of those can never even exceed 100 in number.

FighterPilot:
All of those can never even exceed 100 in number.

Are you OK?

Iblawi1:
Are you OK?

I have full info.

jln115:
Look retaard!!! i posted the 3rd page of the book. I know Nigeria is a lawless country where you can breach copy right as much as you like, but in South Africa it's a crime regardless if the book was free or not!

All rights reserved. Without limiting the rights under copyright reserved above, no part of this may be reproduced, stored or introduced into a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form, or by any means (electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise) without the prior written permission of the copyright owner. Author: Helmoed Heitman ISBN 978-0-9921902-8-6

Fool, illiterate by half !! Both e-books and hard copy books have their pages extracted and posted freely on internet, do you know how many times people have quoted and pasted Google books of military subjet authors on this forum? So many times ! Copyright law is meant to stop commercial copying and transmission for financial gain NOT in simple discussions of the books content !

Google books is full of copy pasted pages of authors works all over the world, and Google is American company in USA where copyrght and intellctual property laws are strongest in the world, yet google books is doing what your iliterate mind calls illegal, white boy with Zulu brain !!

In short, you were denied access to Helmods book, its NOT free, the weblink asked you to shop it into a cart and pay dollars to read the book, and you have no money, likely no credit card and not credit worthy, you are penniless !

You have NEVER read the book, the so called page 3 you posted is the publishers data and copyright page, not any Seleka battle story from SANDF.

I think your level of fraud and deceit justifies yöü be sentenced to 6 months in jail. Liar, fraudster.
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jln115:
Sorry buddy, but we rank 67th least corrupt nation, Nigeria ranks 136th, so ur opinion doesnt really bother me

FighterPilot:
You must be sick. When the world came to know about corruption or even talks about it, they used Nigeria as a perfect example and case study. Nigeria was told to be the only place in the world where corruption was legal tender.

The only thing here is that SA is more open with corruption than Nigeria. In Nigeria publishings of corruption cases are suppressed. Look at Dasuki who ran away with a whooping $2 billion and such has never happened in SA. Nigeria is dark red in corruption perceptions index.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Stop using Wikipedia as source, it is unreliable. Any fraudster like Patches can edit Wikipedia.

Btwn, South African corruption is both local and international, Nigerian corruption is local.

It is South Africa that bribed Sweden's SAAB to do Gripen jet deal, and bribed a whole FIFA top executive team of managers to get 2010 world cup hosting rights that South Africa did not technically qualify to host....your bribery is on world records page, you ruined Sepp Blatters career as FIFA president....South Africa's SPECTACULAR corruption enters Guinness book of records o !
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agaugust:
nness book of records o !
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You see wetin dey happen 4 naija so? Pple wey we say suppose b our custodian don play us one chance.

agaugust:
Fool, illiterate by half !! Both e-books and hard copy books have their pages extracted and posted freely on internet,1. do you know how many times people have quoted and pasted Google books of military subjet authors on this forum? So many times ! Copyright law is meant to stop commercial copying and transmission for financial gain NOT in simple discussions of the books content !

Google books is full of copy pasted pages of authors works all over the world, and Google is American company in USA where copyrght and intellctual property laws are strongest in the world, yet google books is doing what your iliterate mind calls illegal, white boy with Zulu brain !!

In short, you were denied access to 2.Helmods book, its NOT free, the weblink asked you to shop it into a cart and pay dollars to read the book, and you have no money, likely no credit card and not credit worthy, you are penniless !

3.You have NEVER read the book, the so called page 3 you posted is the publishers data and copyright page, not any Seleka battle story from SANDF.

I think your level of fraud and deceit justifies yöü be sentenced to 6 months in jail. Liar, fraudster.
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1. Yes you stup1d sh1t!! You can quote a book, You cant fvcking scan the pages and post them on NL like you asked me to, that will be in breach of the copyright, obviously something you know nothing about.

2. Refer to PIC1

3. Refer to PIC2

Case closed!!

agaugust:
Stop using Wikipedia as source, it is unreliable. Any fraudster like Patches can edit Wikipedia.

Btwn, South African corruption is both local and international, Nigerian corruption is local.

It is South Africa that bribed Sweden's SAAB to do Gripen jet deal, and bribed a whole FIFA top executive team of managers to get 2010 world cup hosting rights that South Africa did not technically qualify to host....your bribery is on world records page, you ruined Sepp Blatters career as FIFA president....South Africa's SPECTACULAR corruption enters Guinness book of records o !
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Wiki just only takes from Corruption Perceptions Index.

$2 billion of Dasuki closes the records and it takes it all. The world knows how corrupt Nigeria is. The first time I started learning about corruption it ended with Nigeria at the end. Nigeria is a case study of corruption. Nigeria is still dark red.

https://www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results

agaugust:
Stop using Wikipedia as source, it is unreliable. Any fraudster like Patches can edit Wikipedia.

Btwn, South African corruption is both local and international, Nigerian corruption is local.

It is South Africa that bribed Sweden's SAAB to do Gripen jet deal, and bribed a whole FIFA top executive team of managers to get 2010 world cup hosting rights that South Africa did not technically qualify to host....your bribery is on world records page, you ruined Sepp Blatters career as FIFA president....South Africa's SPECTACULAR corruption enters Guinness book of records o !
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I used the Corruption perception index as my source dum dum!!

SAS SPIOENKOP leaving for India today...

jln115:
I used the Corruption perception index as my source dum dum!!

Your corruption index is outdated, you dumbo dundee !

FighterPilot was just as dumb, he used Wikipedia as source !

A tale of two fools
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AL-QAEDA strikes Bourkina Faso

BOKO HARAM strikes Cameroon

Global problem....South Africa beware and pray hard to God
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ssaengine:
SAS SPIOENKOP leaving for India today...

$300 million Valour frigate with 1972 rusted old obsolete main gun 76mm, 20 year old obsolescent combat suite, ZERO torpedoes, and ZERO anti-submarine helicopter, plus $40 million Super Lynx helicopter with ZERO sonar ZERO torpedoes ZERO anti-submarine warfare capability
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agaugust:
Your corruption index is outdated, you dumbo dundee !

FighterPilot was just as dumb, he used Wikipedia as source !

A tale of two fools
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How's it outdated?

And FighterPilot used Wikipedia that used the CPI as reference, the only dumb person here is you!!

ssaengine:
SAS SPIOENKOP leaving for India today...

......And you took along the only SAAF pilot who can land at sea?".

Hopelessness of a defence force

jln115:
How's it outdated?

And FighterPilot used Wikipedia that used the CPI as reference, the only dumb person here is you!!

We've seen the data of the ships....... It clearly states that they cannot be classified as modern.



You want another round of embarrassment after the bangui beating?

jln115:
1. Yes you stup1d sh1t!! You can quote a book, You cant fvcking scan the pages and post them on NL like you asked me to, that will be in breach of the copyright, obviously something you know nothing about.

2. Refer to PIC1

3. Refer to PIC2

Case closed!!

Fool, you don't need to scan anything, or how do you scan an E-Book ? It's already on the computer you dunce !

Use simple copy and paste keys on your laptop and show us the content in your nairaland post. Fool.

The advert says the book is free, yet it is asking me to pay $4 to get access, LOL....some kinda South African marketing scam maybe.

You have NOT seen or read any pages of war story accounts in Helmod's book....stop lying. We are on internet and you are asking people to go buy a book to see your evidence....means you have NO SOURCE TO PROVE YOUR SELEKA BATTLE CLAIMS.....just stuuut up you liar !
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agaugust:
Stop using Wikipedia as source, it is unreliable. Any fraudster like Patches can edit Wikipedia.

Btwn, South African corruption is both local and international, Nigerian corruption is local.

It is South Africa that bribed Sweden's SAAB to do Gripen jet deal, and bribed a whole FIFA top executive team of managers to get 2010 world cup hosting rights that South Africa did not technically qualify to host....your bribery is on world records page, you ruined Sepp Blatters career as FIFA president....South Africa's SPECTACULAR corruption enters Guinness book of records o !
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1. Nigeria has a higher corruption index - no words will ever change this fact

2. No bribery was ever proven in the Gripen deal

3. No bribery was ever proben with FIFA

This post of yours is nothing but emotional ramblings

agaugust:
1.Fool, you don't need to scan anything, or how do you scan an E-Book ? It's already on the computer you dunce !

2.Use simple copy and paste keys on your laptop and show us the content in your nairaland post. Fool.

The advert says the book is free, yet it is asking me to pay $4 to get access, LOL....some kinda South African marketing scam maybe.

You have NOT seen or read any pages of war story accounts in Helmod's book....stop lying. We are on internet and you are asking people to go buy a book to see your evidence....means you have NO SOURCE TO PROVE YOUR SELEKA BATTLE CLAIMS.....just stuuut up you liar !
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1. Then why did you ask me to scan the pages to NL in the first place??

2. Yes, ill do that.

3. Then your own the wrong site! Because i got my copy free of charge.


"THE BATTLE IN BANGUI: THE UNTOLD INSIDE STORY

CHAPTER ONE
A hard fight

From just after 16:00 on Friday 22 March until about 21:00 on Sunday 24 March, about 200 South African soldiers fought a series of running battles outside Bangui in the Central African Republic (CAR) against a well-armed Seleka force of several thousand, that has since been estimated at between 4 000 and 7 000. And they did so while the CAR Army (Forces armées centraficaines or FACA) evaporated around them and the peacekeeping forces of Multinational Force of Central Africa (FOMAC) disappeared from the scene.
In the process the soldiers fired off more than 12 000 rounds of 12.7 mm machinegun ammunition1, more than 60 rockets from 107 mm rocket launchers2 and 200 bombs from 81 mm mortars3
1 Fired by the 12.7 mm calibre heavy machinegun, which has a range of 1 800 m. Can destroy light vehicles and penetrate light cover, such as a lightly-built structure. 2 Lightweight, multi-barrel launcher that fires 18.8 kg rockets to a range of 8 000 m; can be used in a direct fire role in an emergency. These are Chinese weapons originally captured in Angola and kept in service, mainly with the Special Forces. 3 The South African 81 mm M8 mortar fires various bombs to a range of 7 000 m. It is a high-angle weapon designed to engage targets behind cover. , and thousands of rounds from 7.62 mm machineguns and 5.56 mm rifles. In all, they would appear to have used some ten tons of assorted munitions. In all, the fight cost 13 killed and 27 wounded. But the force retained its cohesion throughout and was able to fall back from two separate engagement areas to its base and to hold it until their attackers gave up trying to overrun them, offering, instead, a ceasefire and disengagement. By then they had suffered as many as 800 killed, according to the estimates of officers with considerable operational experience and by some NGOs in the country. Later reports say several hundred more may have died of wounds due to a lack of medical support. It helps to put those figures in perspective: the British Army’s 3rd Parachute Battalion regards its deployment in Afghanistan’s Helmand province for six months in 2006 as a hard fought deployment. Over that time, its battle group of 1 200 soldiers, lost 15 killed and 46 wounded, and fired 479 000 rounds of ammunition, all the while supported by light tanks, artillery, attack helicopters, Hercules gunships and fighters." (The Battle in Bangui, Heitman, 2013 , p6)

agaugust:
$300 million Valour frigate with 1972 rusted old obsolete main gun 76mm, 20 year old obsolescent combat suite, ZERO torpedoes, and ZERO anti-submarine helicopter, plus $40 million Super Lynx helicopter with ZERO sonar ZERO torpedoes ZERO anti-submarine warfare capability
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- 76mm is a Super-Rapid

- Combat suite is the same as frontline French Frigates, their flagship and the Saudi Flagship

- Does anyone in Africa have subs? No? then we dont need torpedoes

- Nigeria has ZERO ASW helo as well

- $40 Lynx is more capable and advanced than anything in your arsenal.

You are a jealous little boy augubug... You dream of the day when Nigeria could have a vessel of such power and glory!