shumuel:


hmm okay, but they can of sticked, its was also stated that each ArchAngel rule each day of the week and people born on the day they represent can/should also call on them during prayer for support.

thats roman catholic nonsense. trust me. you call on only God for prayer and support. dont call on no archangels

superior1:


The bible has been canonized as the inspired word of God, what are these other books you speak of, are they canonized?

Who canonized it?
Who decided what should be accepted and what should not?

If Paul the apostle had thought just the way you are thinking right now, he would have limited himself to the knowledge of those before him.

But such a man who never walked physically with the Messiah, became vast in knowledge of secret things and of spiritual matters. But the others limited themselves to written letters.

You search the scriptures, hoping to find eternal life in them.

selfmadeOLX:


There is nothing such as a "good fallen angel"

All fallen angels (1/3 of the angels in heaven) rebelled against God and they were struck down to earth like a lightning..

Those fallen angels are the deamons we have to day..
There is no such as a good deamon..!

Jonah was a good fallen angel. he fell and sunk to the bottom of the whale ( which whale represents an empire ) before he got redeemed again and went on Gods mission which he neglected initially. there are good fallen angels. angel simply means ' messenger '

sukkot:
thats roman catholic nonsense. trust me. you call on only God for prayer and support. dont call on no archangels

Nah... Its just for fun, who has such time.

shumuel:


Nah... Its just for fun, who has such time.

oh ok lol. cuz thats idolatry. you go directly to God in prayer.

sukkot:
Jonah was a good fallen angel. he fell and sunk to the bottom of the whale ( which whale represents an empire ) before he got redeemed again and went on Gods mission which he neglected initially. there are good fallen angels. angel simply means ' messenger '

Jonah was human not an angel

If angel means messager only.. Then paul was an angel same as elisha same as Moses..
Even me is an angel
Every body in this world is an angel then

Baba.. Angels are supreme beings.. They do not posses the human flesh filled with filt and sin

selfmadeOLX:


Jonah was human not an angel

If angel means messager only.. Then paul was an angel same as elisha same as Moses..
Even me is an angel
Every body in this world is an angel then

Baba.. Angels are supreme beings.. They do not posses the human flesh filled with filt and sin

there are human angels. the two angels in sodom and gommorah who nearly got raped by gay men were humans. you dont rape spirits do you ?

sukkot:
there are human angels. the two angels in sodom and gommorah who nearly got raped by gay men were humans. you dont rape spirits do you ?

Baba.. Who is feeding you all these false junks..

Please do not add to the Bible..

God breathed every word in the Bible through man.. He is not stupid..!

selfmadeOLX:


Baba.. Who is feeding you all these false junks..

Please do not add to the Bible..

God breathed every word in the Bible through man.. He is not stupid..!

so you have not read the story of sodom and gommorah with the towns people who wanted to rape the two angels ? really ? book of genesis ? wow.

selfmadeOLX:


Baba.. Who is feeding you all these false junks..

Please do not add to the Bible..

God breathed every word in the Bible through man.. He is not stupid..!

[b]Genesis 19King James Version (KJV)

19 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.[/b]

sukkot:
dunno what you are talking about but you do know the bible is only a tiny minuscule portion of Gods wisdom right ? the bible is just a gateway and not the be all and end all.

john 21 vs 25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Which of the gods?

You know bible concerns itself with the travails of Yahweh, a junior god in both the Canaanite and Babylonian pantheons.

plaetton:


Which of the gods?

You know bible concerns itself with the travails of Yahweh, a junior god in both the Canaanite and Babylonian pantheons.

cannanite and babylonian gods are men with celestial powers. god just means power. one of the babylonian gods was nimrod. am going to the source with this. the main GOD. the most high

selfmadeOLX:
OP science has tried for mankind.. I appreciate them

Just get your facts straight..!

Something great is going to happen soon.

What is going to happen?

sukkot:
cannanite and babylonian gods are men with celestial powers. god just means power. one of the babylonian gods was nimrod. am going to the source with this. the main GOD. the most high

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No sir.
Nimrod was not a god.
Nimrod was a historical character.
He was a great leader who built great cities.
Legend has it was he who led the construction of the tower Babel.
Obviously, the gods respected and feared him.
The fact that the bible chroniclers chose to ignore him should be a testament to his greatness and the fear he exhuded.

Right from antiquity, every worshiper elevates his/ her god to supreme status.
The idea of a supreme, most high God is still a mental creation of individuals.

In Babylon and Canaan, EL was the supreme god.
In Egypt, Ptah was the supreme god.
In ancient Sumeria, Anu was the supreme god, etc.

Therefore, in those days , a supreme god simply meant the leader of the pantheon, the patriarch of the gods.

Of course, over time, these supreme gods were awarded with exaggerated attributes like omni this and omni that.

In all of this ,Yahweh was a junior god whose only inheritance were the non-fertile domains of Canaan, along with a tribe he adopted as his pet project.

sukkot:
continue my post ? lol. how did i know their names ? its common knowledge amongst those who seek. seek and you shall find

Its not in the bible sir

sukkot:
you can source it from the apocryphal scriptures

But they are not the bible

plaetton:
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No sir.
Nimrod was not a god.
Nimrod was a historical character.
He was a great leader who built great cities.
Legend has it was he who led the construction of the tower Babel.
Obviously, the gods respected and feared him.
The fact that the bible chroniclers chose to ignore him should be a testament to his greatness and the fear he exhuded.

Right from antiquity, every worshiper elevates his/ her god to supreme status.
The idea of a supreme, most high God is still a mental creation of individuals.

In Babylon and Canaan, EL was the supreme god.
In Egypt, Ptah was the supreme god.
In ancient Sumeria, Anu was the supreme god, etc.

Therefore, in those days , a supreme god simply meant the leader of the pantheon, the patriarch of the gods.

Of course, over time, these supreme gods were awarded with exaggerated attributes like omni this and omni that.

In all of this ,Yahweh was a junior god whose only inheritance were the non-fertile domains of Canaan, along with a tribe he adopted as his pet project.

Nimrod was a black warrior

mcfynest:



Nimrod was a black warrior

Exactly, what I was heading to.

It is not surprising that the bible not only ignored him completely, despite the fact that he built great cities, but history and myth tend to demonize him.

sukkot:
so all the structures you see in the world today that amaze you and are still around today were all built by the nephilim. the pyramids of giza, the sphinx and stonehenge are a few examples

Acheology says otherwise......

plaetton:


Exactly, what I was heading to.

It is not surprising that the bible not only ignored him completely, despite the fact that he built great cities, but history and myth tend to demonize him.

The bible gave a hint about him....Genesis 10:8 KJV
And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.


However, it is normal for history to demonize him, he was a black man

staggerman:


Who canonized it?
Who decided what should be accepted and what should not?

If Paul the apostle had thought just the way you are thinking right now, he would have limited himself to the knowledge of those before him.

But such a man who never walked physically with the Messiah, became vast in knowledge of secret things and of spiritual matters. But the others limited themselves to written letters.

You search the scriptures, hoping to find eternal life in them.

The canonization and the acceptance of the scriptures was done by the general body of Christians. There were many books that are demonic in origin but we know the books of the bible are inspired words of God.

superior1:


The canonization and the acceptance of the scriptures was done by the general body of Christians. There were many books that are demonic in origin but we know the books of the bible are inspired words of God.

Pure nonsense.

Ignorance or just lying for Christ?

Who were the general body of Christians?

Who determined what was demonic and what was not, and using what criteria?

Aren't you smart enough to think how ridiculous it is for a select group of self-appointed churchmen( who could have been pedophiles) sat down, debated and voted on what is god inspired and what is not ?

plaetton:


Pure nonsense.

Ignorance or just lying for Christ?

Who were the general body of Christians?

Who determined what was demonic and what was not, and using what criteria?

Aren't you smart enough to think how ridiculous it is for a select group of self-appointed churchmen( who could have been pedophiles) sat down, debated and voted on what is god inspired and what is not ?

I think you need to take a little study on how we came to have the canonized books which makes up the bible. Yah, there were alot of demonic inspired books such that not all writings were accepted by the Jews under the Old Testament as inspired of God, are those also self appointed pedophiles like you claimed.

By the way, why don't you list out these esoteric books and lets know them or like the name suggests, they can only be known to selected knowledgeable few like you?

plaetton:


Pure nonsense.

Ignorance or just lying for Christ?

Who were the general body of Christians?

Who determined what was demonic and what was not, and using what criteria?

Aren't you smart enough to think how ridiculous it is for a select group of self-appointed churchmen( who could have been pedophiles) sat down, debated and voted on what is god inspired and what is not ?

1- they were spitially edified and filled to do it.
2- those books have helped us thoughtout ever dincce as a basis/guide to life.
3-it is filled with prophesies that arr being fulfilled now.

mcfynest:


1- they were spitially edified and filled to do it.
2- those books have helped us thoughtout ever dincce as a basis/guide to life.
3-it is filled with prophesies that arr being fulfilled now.

Lol.

1. How did you know that they were spiritually edified (?) and filled to do it? Because they said so or because you simply want to believe so ?
In the same way, how did you know that were not pedophiles amongst them?
You can never know, can you?

2. Those books have HELPED WHO?
Guide to life?
You gotta be kidding.
More like guide to conflicts, wars, schisms, ignorance and mental slavery.

If it was anything resembling a guide to like, then please explain why there are 10,000 different christian sects who cannot agree on what is written in your god inspired books.

Abeg.


3. Sorry , but the word " prophesy " was coined for the backward and less intelligent.

superior1:


I think you need to take a little study on how we came to have the canonized books which makes up the bible. Yah, there were alot of demonic inspired books such that not all writings were accepted by the Jews under the Old Testament as inspired of God, are those also self appointed pedophiles like you claimed.

By the way, why don't you list out these esoteric books and lets know them or like the name suggests, they can only be known to selected knowledgeable few like you?

Nonsense.

I keep asking you, what were these demonic books?
Who wrote them ?
Who were the people that selected the books?
What was the criteria used to determine what books were demonic and what was god inspired ?

plaetton:


Lol.

1. How did you know that they were spiritually edified (?) and filled to do it? Because they said so or because you simply want to believe so ?
In the same way, how did you know that were not pedophiles amongst them?
You can never know, can you?

2. Those books have HELPED WHO?
Guide to life?
You gotta be kidding.
More like guide to conflicts, wars, schisms, ignorance and mental slavery.

If it was anything resembling a guide to like, then please explain why there are 10,000 different christian sects who cannot agree on what is written in your god inspired books.

Abeg.

Please sir , can you name a handful from the 10,000 different christian sects - you just blew your exaggeration out of proportion

Hian !

3. Sorry , but the word " prophesy " was coined for the backward and less intelligent.

But the word "prediction" was coined for the intelligent ones ?

plaetton:


Nonsense.

I keep asking you, what were these demonic books?
Who wrote them ?
Who were the people that selected the books?
What was the criteria used to determine what books were demonic and what was god inspired ?

Generally speaking, books which are not in tandem with the attributes or ways of Yahweh are inspired of the devil, Yahweh is God eg, if any book encourage reading of the stars or fortune telling, it can never be inspired by Him. We know this because He commanded against it.

So, books of the bible are inspired of God but not all books are God inspired, ok?

Now, list out your esoteric books

superior1:


Generally speaking, books which are not in tandem with the attributes or ways of Yahweh are inspired of the devil, Yahweh is God eg, if any book encourage reading of the stars or fortune telling, it can never be inspired by Him. We know this because He commanded against it.

So, books of the bible are inspired of God but not all books are God inspired, ok?

Now, list out your esoteric books

Bingo!!

Have you heard of the term " Ecclesiastical Agenda " ?

The books of the bible were selected for canonization based on the Ecclesiastical Agenda of the presiding churchmen.
In the same way that your primary school or secondary curriculums are carefully selected based on the educational GOALS or AGENDA of the ruling government.

So, it made sense that scriptures that did not fit the Ecclesiastical Agenda, the brain washing and powergrab, of the religious elite if that era were rejected.

Calling those books demonic( which actually never did) was just a simple act of giving a dog a bad name, so that you can hang it.

The books of the bible are inspired by god because that's what makes you feel OK.
It is a matter if faith, your faith.

Ishilove:

The only ones I'm familiar with are the first four.

Mike is a warrior

Gabe is a messenger

What do the rest do?

there are numerous archangels, those ones are greater than archangels they are called Archistratege they stand in the presence of the Almighty in the tenth and highest heaven and receive direct command from him.

KingEbukasBlog:




Please sir , can you name a handful from the 10,000 different christian sects - you just blew your exaggeration out of proportion

Hian !



But the word "prediction" was coined for the intelligent ones ?

Thanks for the correction.
It is actually more like 33,000 denominations of Christianity.

One inspired book from god, 33,000 disagreements.

http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm

plaetton:


Bingo!!

Have you heard of the term " Ecclesiastical Agenda " ?

The books of the bible were selected for canonization based on the Ecclesiastical Agenda of the presiding churchmen.
In the same way that your primary school or secondary curriculums are carefully selected based on the educational GOALS or AGENDA of the ruling government.

So, it made sense that scriptures that did not fit the Ecclesiastical Agenda, the brain washing and powergrab, of the religious elite if that era were rejected.

Calling those books demonic( which actually never did) was just a simple act of giving a dog a bad name, so that you can hang it.

The books of the bible are inspired by god because that's what makes you feel OK.
It is a matter if faith, your faith.

Stop running in circles, I have told you what qualifies a book as inspired of God and demons.
Now list out all the esoteric books in your arsenal and let see if they are in tandem with the God revealed in the bible.