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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:05am On Jan 25, 2016
boluwatife66:
We all want corruption to be fought and defieted but, within the ambience of the law and it must be all board... OBJ made his own fight of corruption a selective one thats why immediately he left office EFCC went dumb. have we forgotten how amaechi and his likes fought jonathan to share our money? that was the cause of the crisis on NGF. today the same people are now saint. thagt is the problem. if we must fight corruption, it must be holistic
Is it better to fight corruption in part(as you allege) than to allow it to thrive without fighting at all (as was seen before now)? While I agree that GEJ was pressured by NGF to share the funds in ECA, the fact remains that his government got the larger cut(56%) and could not justify it with things on ground.

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by Pataki: 10:08am On Jan 25, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

You are the disgrace and not me. You sound like the sycophant that carries placard to chant "leave Metuh Alone". Unlike you, I'm not driven by money and I don't need to get "paid" to take a patriotic position. Honestly, crooks can't trust me in positions of leadership because I won't cooperate, but sincere Nigerians can trust me because they know that I won't trade national interest for petty partisan comradeship. In fact, if you guys want to sink in corruption, I won't sink with you.


Lubbish... angry

You are a disgrace to yourself and all that you represent.

Fair-weather political analyst. Wherever the wind leads you, you follow.

I am not one of those APC/Buhari fans on NL that will salute you for turning coats again. Simply because come 2019, you will turn coats again.

You have developed a penchant for seeking political love online. Those of us who know your antecedents very well, know you are simply an attention seeker. PDP is no longer relevant in national scheme of things, so of course, it is time for you to jump ship.

Stay in your PDP and continue to exercise your foolishness. Jumping ship only proves irrespective of party affliations, you have no self worth.

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by EastanPower(m): 10:11am On Jan 25, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

I don't count that as those that matters. I'm more interested in the love people show to me than worry myself about words used in the past. This is what makes a Buhari and El Rufai to work harmonously, a Kwankwaso and Buhari, Obasanjo and Buhari, FFK and Jonathan etc, Fayemi and Oni etc.



NgeneUkwenu remain a friend!

@Pataki, I salute you for being honest with Barcanista the protection seeker. Don't mind those that are hailing him here, great minds understand this flip flop very well.

He is what we call anywhere-belle-face in football. cheesy

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by bloodykiller: 10:21am On Jan 25, 2016
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TonyeBarcanista:

Is it better to fight corruption in part(as you allege) than to allow it to thrive without fighting at all (as was seen before now)? While I agree that GEJ was pressured by NGF to share the funds in ECA, the fact remains that his government got the larger cut(56%) and could not justify it with things on ground.
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Nonsense trash

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:26am On Jan 25, 2016
Irrespective of what one does, he must always get critics. Criticism is welcomed, but bitterness isn't ideal for ones health. angry
Pataki:


You are a disgrace to yourself and all that you represent.

Fair-weather political analyst. Wherever the wind leads you, you follow.

I am not one of those APC/Buhari fans on NL that will salute you for turning coats again. Simply because come 2019, you will turn coats again.

You have developed a penchant for seeking political love online. Those of us who know your antecedents very well, know you are simply an attention seeker. PDP is no longer relevant in national scheme of things, so of course, it is time for you to jump ship.

Stay in your PDP and continue to exercise your foolishness. Jumping ship only proves irrespective of party affliations, you have no self worth.

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by EastanPower(m): 10:36am On Jan 25, 2016
babyfaceafrica:
Nice one tonye....IPODs won't like this!!!

Barcanista is not a reliable person, do you know that he once supported Biafra?

Look at his past post on Biafra.

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by Nobody: 10:49am On Jan 25, 2016
Jesusloveyou:
this is d problem of nigeria, we always support evil and corruption, u need deliverance from dis ur automatic madness
U ursef also support corruption. ..
Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:08am On Jan 25, 2016
EastanPower:


Barcanista is not a reliable person, do you know that he once supported Biafra?

Look at his past post on Biafra.
Yeah, and pulled out of Biafra/LNG when your scheme was made known to claim lands and territories that aren't yours AND your IPOB hate preach which I don't subscribe to(PS: I've never suscribed to IPOD or a delluded Kanu).
After the announcement of the result of March 28 Presidential election, I recall vividly how some of us brought about the idea of a collective unity of interest and purpose between the South-South and South East geopolitical zones within the Nigeria State. I remember calling for a restructured Nigeria that will promote the interests of all citizens irrespective of ethnic group. I also remember saying that in absence of that, a referendum be held among citizens to determine whether the people of the South South and South East prefer the present Nigeria structure that favours no one over a separate sovereign State, the Lower Niger Congress/ Federation that will favor citizens of the region, and also define the right, interest and terms that is acceptable to all ethnic nationalities that make up the 'federation'. I remember maintaining that this struggle should not be seen as confrontation with other groups and regions but must be confined in the most legitimate manner. It should be one that promote the legitimate interest of the SSSE and not one that set the SS/SE against other regions. This remains my position!

Let me state that the struggle for a better Nigeria that promotes good governance, equity and fairness irrespective of ethnic, religious and political affiliation remains my primary objective. The LNF is meant to be an alternative where the hope for restructured Nigeria diminishes. Though some of my brothers either prefer a united Niger Delta Republic or an exclusive indivisible Nigeria. That however, will be determined by a referendum should there be any. I, shall however align myself with the position of my people.

www.nairaland.com/2682821/position-nnamdi-kanu-led-ipob-biafra

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by babyfaceafrica: 11:20am On Jan 25, 2016
EastanPower:


Barcanista is not a reliable person, do you know that he once supported Biafra?

Look at his past post on Biafra.
what did you guys didd to him that changed his mind?...you no give am yam?
Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by Chubhie: 12:02pm On Jan 25, 2016
Pataki:


You are a disgrace to yourself and all that you represent.

Fair-weather political analyst. Wherever the wind leads you, you follow.

I am not one of those APC/Buhari fans on NL that will salute you for turning coats again. Simply because come 2019, you will turn coats again.

You have developed a penchant for seeking political love online. Those of us who know your antecedents very well, know you are simply an attention seeker. PDP is no longer relevant in national scheme of things, so of course, it is time for you to jump ship.

Stay in your PDP and continue to exercise your foolishness. Jumping ship only proves irrespective of party affliations, you have no self worth.

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by helpee(m): 12:31pm On Jan 25, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

Is it better to fight corruption in part(as you allege) than to allow it to thrive without fighting at all (as was seen before now)? While I agree that GEJ was pressured by NGF to share the funds in ECA, the fact remains that his government got the larger cut(56%) and could not justify it with things on ground.
So it is better to fight corruption by creating corruption. in principle, all i need to do to evade EFCC is to join APC. so i can steal as much as i want as long as i am in APC and to think i once thought you knew what you were doing. you are very corrupt and gullible to say this. let me ask you this question....so you knew all along jonathan collected 56percent of the ECA without anything to show for it and you were busy campaigning for him less than one year ago. on what basis were you campaigning we should vote for such a failure? you also knew PDP memebers were very corrupt and you were still campaigning for the party less than one year ago. so what has changed. young man, you lack the basic principle for sucess....integrity, faithfulness and trustworthiness. All these your watery analysis on nairaland without any iota of integrity will perpetually keep you as an average person at best. if you want to stand for something, stand by it. That is what makes you a man. It is so obvious to everybody you are covetous of aisha rice so you are gradually working your way into the minds of APC people on nairaland. such a pity

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by Nobody: 12:32pm On Jan 25, 2016
Ovamboland:


Has any of the accused being condemned? Why are you more interested in their welfare than the impact of their alleged misdeeds?
You see what I am saying? Pure myopic reasoning... What alleged misdeeds are you talking about?

I am interested in his welfare because of the irresponsibility and radicality of you lofts in handling sensitive cases and thinking straight.

Except he is being convicted, he is innocent like you...
Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by engineerboat(m): 12:37pm On Jan 25, 2016
bloodykiller:


sir i don talk my own I don't care if he's interested or not

NO political party tolerates anti party activities anywhere in the world.
if apc played that kind of opposition they won't be the ruling party today because they won't be able to brainwash millions of people with propaganda.
have you ever in the news see Republicans at the same page with Obama?
bro that's politics for you if you don't like it it's simple QUIT

discipline is always the key
though I know his intentions because he can never fool me.

the likes of omojuwa and co are eating Aisha Fried rice today it's because they stood their ground amidst the crowd back then .
you can never reap where you did not sow #facts

Welcome back bloodykiller,

but mind you, speaking out your mind does not mean anti-party.

everybody has his or her own principles and way of life,
he choose not to support looters until proven not guilty.
so what is your problem there,

contribute constructively to the thread, if you have any beef against Tonyebarcanista, @ bloodykiller stop this you rant, it will not favour you

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by Nobody: 12:38pm On Jan 25, 2016
helpee:
So it is better to fight corruption by creating corruption. in principle, all i need to do to evade EFCC is to join APC. so i can steal as much as i want as long as i am in APC and to think i once thought you knew what you were doing. you are very corrupt and gullible to say this. let me ask you this question....so you knew all along jonathan collected 56percent of the ECA without anything to show for it and you were busy campaigning for him less than one year ago. on what basis were you campaigning we should vote for such a failure? you also knew PDP memebers were very corrupt and you were still campaigning for the party less than one year ago. so what has changed. young man, you lack the basic principle for sucess....integrity, faithfulness and trustworthiness. All these your watery analysis on nairaland without any iota of integrity will perpetually keep you as an average person at best. if you want to stand for something, stand by it. That is what makes you a man. It is so obvious to everybody you are covetous of aisha rice so you are gradually working your way into the minds of APC people on nairaland. such a pity
You've spoken well but many people don't really care about what's right but how to put something in their stomach. I only have pity for people like him.

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by TonyeBarcanista(m): 2:39pm On Jan 25, 2016
helpee:
So it is better to fight corruption by creating corruption. in principle, all i need to do to evade EFCC is to join APC. so i can steal as much as i want as long as i am in APC and to think i once thought you knew what you were doing. you are very corrupt and gullible to say this. let me ask you this question....so you knew all along jonathan collected 56percent of the ECA without anything to show for it and you were busy campaigning for him less than one year ago. on what basis were you campaigning we should vote for such a failure? you also knew PDP memebers were very corrupt and you were still campaigning for the party less than one year ago. so what has changed. young man, you lack the basic principle for sucess....integrity, faithfulness and trustworthiness. All these your watery analysis on nairaland without any iota of integrity will perpetually keep you as an average person at best. if you want to stand for something, stand by it. That is what makes you a man. It is so obvious to everybody you are covetous of aisha rice so you are gradually working your way into the minds of APC people on nairaland. such a pity
1. I raised this issue throuout the campaign period before and after I joined PDP.

2. I didn't enter PDP to support Rogues, I campaigned for PDP with the sole AIM and alogan of "Change within the PDP" not to maintain status quo(cc Passingshot). In fact, I didn't ever mentioned that GEJ is a performer, I only mentioned that APC doesn't look sincere.

3. My principle of never to support ANYthing corruption whether in APC or PDP has never been tainted.

4. If you were sane, you will realise that I have been calling for reform of PDP because no sane person will be proud to maintain status quo.

5. You are pained that I'm not in support of your corrupt position. As long as you guys are bent on sinking the party, I won't sink with you.

6. When are you carrying placard for Metuh?


PS: You should start getting used to this position or go and...(Oshio voice)

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by helpee(m): 3:27pm On Jan 25, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

1. I raised this issue throuout the campaign period before and after I joined PDP.

2. I didn't enter PDP to support Rogues, I campaigned for PDP with the sole AIM and alogan of "Change within the PDP" not to maintain status quo(cc Passingshot). In fact, I didn't ever mentioned that GEJ is a performer, I only mentioned that APC doesn't look sincere.

3. My principle of never to support ANYthing corruption whether in APC or PDP has never been tainted.

4. If you were sane, you will realise that I have been calling for reform of PDP because no sane person will be proud to maintain status quo.

5. You are pained that I'm not in support of your corrupt position. As long as you guys are bent on sinking the party, I won't sink with you.

6. When are you carrying placard for Metuh?


PS: You should start getting used to this position or go and...(Oshio voice)
i am right. This baby called barcanista is shameless. so, you knew PDP was bad but just because APC appeared.....mark the word appeared insicere, you started campaigning for a non performing GEJ. What if GEJ had won....who will now arrest your so called corrupt METUH? why didnt you say it clearly that the two candidates were bad so you wouldnt campaign for anyone of them. From now on, i can conclude you are not sane. i will ignore your rants and take you up on issues. First, i have never joined a political party in my life so i dont need to carry placard for Metuh. But i will find it more honourable to carry a placard to force PMB to obey court order wether that court order is made for shina rambo or metuh is secondary. it is better than a worthless youth like yourself that stands for nothing as long as aisha rice or cramjones drink is available. so, since when did APC now become sincere? APC doesnt look sincere,,,but they are now sincere? To say you are shameless is an understatement. I dont care about metuh. from what i heard he maltreated a school teacher who is a common man. if they maltreat him now it is ok as long as it is done within the law not the with the intention of silencing opposition. you are already sunk my dear.....you dont need a sinking PDP to sink a chamelon like you. reasonable people even in your APC camp can already see through your insincere support for anti corruption fight. you are not fighting for anti corruption, you are fighting for your own portion of aisha rice. go and take it...political glutton

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by TonyeBarcanista(m): 3:46pm On Jan 25, 2016
helpee:
i am right. This baby called barcanista is shameless. so, you knew PDP was bad but just because APC appeared.....mark the word appeared insicere, you started campaigning for a non performing GEJ. What if GEJ had won....who will now arrest your so called corrupt METUH? why didnt you say it clearly that the two candidates were bad so you wouldnt campaign for anyone of them. From now on, i can conclude you are not sane. i will ignore your rants and take you up on issues. First, i have never joined a political party in my life so i dont need to carry placard for Metuh. But i will find it more honourable to carry a placard to force PMB to obey court order wether that court order is made for shina rambo or metuh is secondary. it is better than a worthless youth like yourself that stands for nothing as long as aisha rice or cramjones drink is available. so, since when did APC now become sincere? APC doesnt look sincere,,,but they are now sincere? To say you are shameless is an understatement. I dont care about metuh. from what i heard he maltreated a school teacher who is a common man. if they maltreat him now it is ok as long as it is done within the law not the with the intention of silencing opposition. you are already sunk my dear.....you dont need a sinking PDP to sink a chamelon like you. reasonable people even in your APC camp can already see through your insincere support for anti corruption fight. you are not fighting for anti corruption, you are fighting for your own portion of aisha rice. go and take it...political glutton
The difference between you and I is that for you party chieftian's interests comes first, while for me the interest of Nigeria comes first irrespective of party. If you are sane enough you will know that though I supported GEJ in 2011, I still went out to protest againsthe subsidy removal in 2012(while you were smoking weed in your house). Though I voted GEJ in 2011, I still blasted him for not prosecuting Stella Oduah, subsidy thieves and shielding Alison Madekwe.

That I support you in an election doesn't mean I will tolerate your madness. In fact, if this #ArmsGate was known before the election, God knows that I will call for GEJ;s resignation/arrest and rescind campaigning for him. People like you are the reason behind the madness in Nigeria.

PS: My support for this fight has nothing to do with whether or not I'm moving to APC(I don't even see how that concerns you). You can cry "witch-hunt" or whatever, but behind your facade is a morally bankrupt soul without conscience. Piss Off

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by helpee(m): 4:30pm On Jan 25, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:

The difference between you and I is that for you party chieftian's interests comes first, while for me the interest of Nigeria comes first irrespective of party. If you are sane enough you will know that though I supported GEJ in 2011, I still went out to protest againsthe subsidy removal in 2012(while you were smoking weed in your house). Though I voted GEJ in 2011, I still blasted him for not prosecuting Stella Oduah, subsidy thieves and shielding Alison Madekwe.

That I support you in an election doesn't mean I will tolerate your madness. In fact, if this #ArmsGate was known before the election, God knows that I will call for GEJ;s resignation/arrest and rescind campaigning for him. People like you are the reason behind the madness in Nigeria.

PS: My support for this fight has nothing to do with whether or not I'm moving to APC(I don't even see how that concerns you). You can cry "witch-hunt" or whatever, but behind your facade is a morally bankrupt soul without conscience. Piss Off
i can see it is getting to you. The interest of nigeria comes first and you are breeding a dictator in the name of a fight against corruption. so you protested against subsidy removal? clap for yourself fool. what has now happened to the subsidy? While chamelons like you were protesting against the subsidy removal, i was one of the heads of the different surgical teams put together to treat casualties from the protest. you blasted GEJ for not prosecuting stella oduah based on hearsay, you are yet to call for resignation of buhari for not prosecuting amaechi and fashola aand king tinubu or the 75million website scam is not enough? i am yet to see your protest over the billions budgeted for feeding buhari. who cares wether you move to APC or even kowa party. you seem to think you are important. you are a liability anywhere you are. You stand for nothing so you are bound to keep wandering about in search of aisha rice. fool. so you didnt know sanusi said 20billion dollars was missing before election yet you went ahead to campaign for GEJ. now you claim you wouldnt have campaigned had it been you knew 2.1 billion was missing. you that didnt rescind from campaigning because of 20billion dollars. clean your mouth liar. you need to pay copyright fee to lai mohammed

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by kaboninc(m): 6:25pm On Jan 25, 2016
helpee:
i can see it is getting to you. The interest of nigeria comes first and you are breeding a dictator in the name of a fight against corruption. so you protested against subsidy removal? clap for yourself fool. what has now happened to the subsidy? While chamelons like you were protesting against the subsidy removal, i was one of the heads of the different surgical teams put together to treat casualties from the protest. you blasted GEJ for not prosecuting stella oduah based on hearsay, you are yet to call for resignation of buhari for not prosecuting amaechi and fashola aand king tinubu or the 75million website scam is not enough? i am yet to see your protest over the billions budgeted for feeding buhari. who cares wether you move to APC or even kowa party. you seem to think you are important. you are a liability anywhere you are. You stand for nothing so you are bound to keep wandering about in search of aisha rice. fool. so you didnt know sanusi said 20billion dollars was missing before election yet you went ahead to campaign for GEJ. now you claim you wouldnt have campaigned had it been you knew 2.1 billion was missing. you that didnt rescind from campaigning because of 20billion dollars. clean your mouth liar. you need to pay copyright fee to lai mohammed

Tell himm!!!

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Re: Trying Times For Nigeria, Patriotic Citizens' Attitude And Responsibility by SeverusSnape(m): 7:53am On Jan 26, 2016
Francizy Thanks for all the posts you shared on this thread, Especially that of Helpee .

I saw the topic earlier, But when I discovered the OP was TonyeBarcanista , I lost interest in it. What does a chameleon have to tell me that I'll listen?... A morally bankrupt fellow talking about "citizens responsibility", I'm glad even some of the APC guys aren't buying into his lies and deception.

Nice replies Helpee.

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