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| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 8:49am On Jan 30, 2016*. Modified: 9:26am On Apr 19, 2017 |
DeathStroke007:Now I am wondering if you even took time to read up on the life of the real Barnabas. The real Barnabas is a Hebrew who lived his later life and died in the Island of Cyprus. Cyprus has always a Greek speaking land. Even his relic were later discovered under a cherry tree in Cyprus. There is no record of him going to Spain or knowing the spanish language. If there is a language he should know, it should be greek and not spanish. On the other hand your gospel of Barnabas was found to be written in Spanish and italian not in Hebrew or Greek that the real Barnabas would have written it if he were to be the author. Except maybe you are going to show me any proof he knew Spanish in his lifetime. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by DeathStroke007(op): 9:07am On Jan 30, 2016 |
SalC:story... did he knew Jesus? |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by DeathStroke007(op): 9:08am On Jan 30, 2016 |
SalC:now am sure you know nothing about Barnabas |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by DeathStroke007(op): 9:09am On Jan 30, 2016 |
Richirich713:google is your friend... it's not corrupted.. he writes based on what he saw and heard |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by unphilaz(m): 9:15am On Jan 30, 2016 |
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| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 9:24am On Jan 30, 2016 |
And oh you need a proof the so called Bible was written 1500 years ago? Well let me make it clear that I was even trying to go soft on the muslims and massage their ego with that otherwise I don't believe it was written 1500 years ago. I rather believe it was a medieval forgery of the 14th century through the 16th century AD probably 1500AD you get? Why because the author clearly used the popular errornous believe that only took place in the 14th century before it was corrected. Consider the quote from chapter 82 of your bible below Insomuch that the year of Jubilee which now comes every 100 years, shall by the Messiah be reduced to every year in every placeConsider the "now" in the above quote showing as at the time of the above writing the Jubilee was celebrated every hundred years which may likely not be so from the onset. Now you and I know the jubilee year is celebrated every 50 years and not 100. For the sake of clarity I will post where God gave that instruction in the Bible. Consecrate every Fiftieth year and proclaim liberty throughout the land to all the inhabitants, it shall be a Jubilee year for you. Lev 25:10 Now let me tell you a story ![]() In the year 1300 AD, Pope Boniface VIII proclaimed that jubilee year should henceforth be celebrated every 100 years contrary to the 50 years it was sanctioned to be celebrated by God, but the next Pope being Pope Clement VI changed it back to every 50 years and so it was celebrated in the year 1350, now there was only a span of 50 years in history when people believed the Jubilee year comes every 100 years and it is between 1300 and 1350 AD. It is only then that any body would have written "the jubilee year which now comes every 100 years. So the writer of your gospel of Barnabas much have written within these fifty years of erroneous belief. ![]() This is just one of the reasons I believe it couldn't have been written by the real Barnabas who lived and died within the first century AD. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 9:39am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007: DeathStroke007: DeathStroke007:I never really wanted to go this far but it seems you didn't even know the real Barnabas wasn't among the 12 apostles of Jesus. Referring to him is just like referring to Paul as an apostle. They weren't with Jesus like the 12 apostles. I really don't know where you are getting your informations from. Like seriously he was with Jesus and Jesus asked him to write what? Smh una no go kill person ![]() |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by Richirich713: 9:42am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Google tells me it's a medieval forgery. If it's not corrupted why does it say Jesus is not the Messiah? Doesn't the Quran say Jesus is the Messiah. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 9:45am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Lol really? Teach me oh thou learned one, the knowledge of the real Barnabas to learn for I hunger and thirst for this knowledge. I am but a handmaid of the Lord ![]() |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 9:47am On Jan 30, 2016 |
malvisguy212:God bless you too dear. I am a sister though ![]() |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 9:50am On Jan 30, 2016 |
Richirich713:Chai you beat me to this. I wanted to let him come out fully first and prove he believed the gospel of Barnabas before I start showing him where it contradicts his koran, then he will be made to choose between gospel of Barnabas and his koran. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by Richirich713: 10:26am On Jan 30, 2016 |
SalC:I'm pretty sure he's unaware that it contradicts the Quran, that why I asked him if it's corrupted. Since he said it's not corrupted I would like to see how he will explain these contradictions. I really hope he's not going with "if it agrees with Quran it's not corrupted but if it doesn't agree, it's corrupted" |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by DeathStroke007(op): 10:30am On Jan 30, 2016 |
SalC:go read his entire gospel... Then do research on the relationship between Barnabas and Paul |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by DeathStroke007(op): 10:32am On Jan 30, 2016 |
Richirich713:#groaning in anger# OLODO ni e.. Messiah means prophet |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by DeathStroke007(op): 10:33am On Jan 30, 2016 |
SalC:laughing... mention the 12 disciples with source of your claim |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 10:35am On Jan 30, 2016 |
Richirich713:He already made the blanket statement "it's not corrupted" he can no longer cherrypick what to believe therefore if there is any contradiction between the two, the Quran must be the one in error, since according to them, the gospel of Barnabas was written before the Quran and this further cast doubts on the authenticity of Mohammed and his Quran. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by Richirich713: 10:36am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Are u for real? Show me anywhere in the Quran or evens hadith where anyone besides Jesus is called Messiah. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 10:39am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:I have read it, my post doesn't in anyway sound like that of a complete novice and your one liners aren't enough to take me back to re-reading it. As for the research, do it yourself and bring your findings here. Am waiting. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 10:46am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Lol I know am teaching you but no wahala... Am having a good laugh here ![]() Here are the 12 apostles Peter, James and John (sons of Zebedee), Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Mathew, Thomas, James (son of Alpheus), Theddaeus, Simon, and Judas. And try to learn the difference between the apostles and disciples. ![]() |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by DeathStroke007(op): 11:00am On Jan 30, 2016 |
SalC:disciples not apostles |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by DeathStroke007(op): 11:03am On Jan 30, 2016 |
SalC:if you know everything about Paul, you would know Barnabas... that's your flaw |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 11:04am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Stop clutching on straws there is nothing like 12 disciples. And your Barnabas in that his gospel claimed to be an Apostle whereas there are 12 apostles and no Barnabas among them. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by DeathStroke007(op): 11:05am On Jan 30, 2016 |
Richirich713:language is your problem.. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by DeathStroke007(op): 11:07am On Jan 30, 2016 |
SalC:so, na apostle Jesus have no be disciples abi.... and Paul wasn't among the apostle right |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 11:09am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Guy shift joor. Your lines are becoming too lame ![]() If you know everything about paul or even your Barnabas why not post it here. I do hope it won't be that ridiculous muslim mantra of Paul and Barnabas being enemies simply because the Bible said they disagreed on who to take along in their journey. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by DeathStroke007(op): 11:12am On Jan 30, 2016 |
SalC:lol... chai.. so you know Paul na barnabas apprentice before.. and you dey lie |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by Richirich713: 11:19am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:If u could show me where muhammad is called Messiah I would believe u. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 11:22am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Smh see kweshion chai. Jesus had 12 apostles and many disciples. Neither Paul nor Barnabas was among these 12 apostles. Paul was the one who later referred to himself as an apostle and that doesn't mean he is among the twelve. Neither the Bible nor paul nor Barnabas himself ever referred to himself as an apostle. So saying Barnabas was an apostle and Jesus instructed him to write his gospel sounds crazy. If there are people who were with Jesus all along and so write about him first hand, it should be those among the 12. If you noticed, Paul himself never wrote first hand account of Jesus' life but more of visionary accounts or the ones he read. |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 11:26am On Jan 30, 2016*. Modified: 2:52pm On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Apprentice ke? All along I've used the word companion for them and not apprentice. Non of them is a disciple to the other. They are co-preachers. So far you've seen you started a topic you don't know jack about. Next time study well before posting. ![]() |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 11:31am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:I don't know if you are joking or serious. Like serious Messiah means prophet |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by SalC: 11:34am On Jan 30, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:I think you should clarify, am having same language problem. Teach us oh learned one ![]() |
| Re: Comprehensive Details About Who Was Crucified (gospel Of Barnabas) by mustymatic(m): 11:41am On Jan 30, 2016 |
malvisguy212:But brother, the wording "qad khalat" does not mean to die, but passed or somethin lyk dat (like passed leaders for example...jonathan is a passed leader now...although it can b said such since they're no more in existence now. |
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