Show us what factors make Nigér Republiqùe more powerful than Sudan in military might. Show us how you and global firepower are correct, that is how you almost ruined the other thread arguing that SF and SOF are not the same thing worldwide apart from in USA.
Anywhere South African appear, people get fed with wrong information and you do it deliberately, that is the type of citizens South Africa produces, no wonder Somalis are ranked better brains than Southies.
Consult global firepower and see for yourself.
You were the one who was arguing on the other thread, not me. You are the one whos comments derail the other thread not mine. I post more frequently on that other thread than you, I post more content on the other thread than you do and I have never once derailed it - have you ever noticed that apart from Henry none of the members on the other thread ever respond to you? There is a reason for that.
You are now nothing more than a troll augbug, and the worst part is that you dont know it.
Random info....look out for Denel's biggest contract ever this year. Bigger than Badger. Wont say which division or who the customer is, but will be considered a type of coup, considering who the customer usually buys equipment from.
Every country has its own time of domestic crisis. South Africa has horrors when Inkatha movement and ANC supporters were macheting, clubing, stoning and fire roasting innocent people to death in Mandela's era of presidence Vs Chief Buthelezi.
You hide your own country's shïït under carpet and point at others. Reason why we Nigerians remind you of your past and current horrors of bloodshed inside South Africa.
Still those were just political violence and not extremism. People were not killed in mass. We have never experienced extremism in our land where there is a particular political, ethnic or religious group that goes besek killing people indiscriminately without mercy. Inkatha had its own targets and where nothing compared to terrorists who are proponents of extremists agenda.
Still those were just political violence and not extremism. People were not killed in mass. We have never experienced extremism in our land where there is a particular political, ethnic or religious group that goes besek killing people indiscriminately without mercy. Inkatha had its own targets and where nothing compared to terrorists who are proponents of extremists agenda.
Violence is violence. South African killed South Africans in thousands during Mandela's reign as president Vs Chief Buthelezi. ANC men Vs Inkatha men.
When you have 80 million Islamic believers as natural born citizens of South Africa including Shia and Sunni Islamic fundamentalists like we have in Nigeria, then South Africa will have home made terrorists and extremists on your streets, even your SANDF army chief of staff will find it hard to drive around Cape Town in his convoy.
Then those 80 million South African Islamists will make your country an SADC region Boko Haram terror zone.
Thats because we have almost 5 times your population. Thats also why murder rate by world standards is measured per capita/per thousand heads of population or else China will have the highest murders in the world due to population, and it will be a wrong impression. This has been explained to you dullards many times.
South Africa has a higher murder rate per capita of population than Nigeria. Confirmed worldwide.
I believe that murders should be counted per head because that will be accurate. This thing of murder rate is inaccurate and does not work. I can argue it to the university academic staff. Every life of citizen is important and should not be dissolved behind the smoking cloud of murder rate.
ssaengine: Random info....look out for Denel's biggest contract ever this year. Bigger than Badger. Wont say which division or who the customer is, but will be considered a type of coup, considering who the customer usually buys equipment from.
LOL...Denel, fake South African made products everywhere, most Denel products have 30% to 90% foreign content from Europe.
A-Darter missile has 40% imported foreign parts manufactured by different countries, yet they say proudly made in South Africa qnd hide the fact that there is 40% imported foreign made parts that are possibly subject to arms embargo if war arises.
No, you have yet to prove that you have "400" boats or vessels.
I have asked many times, and many times you avoid the question.
1. I have posted the year 2006-2010 various sized 300 vessels procurement here many times repeatedly, including those from Australia, Vietnam, Singapore shipyards. How many times will I repeat it, you think I am a jobless man with no use for my time? You think I get paid salary on Nairaland time spent posting comments?
2. The major ships list is available on Navy website.
3. I posted yesterday the 2016 brand new 100 vessels purchase, so that completes all needed proofs.
Dude, stop killing this thread like you almost killed the photo thread with foolish comments and demands for citations to be repeated for you again and again....like yõu have brain disease and mental cognitive disorder? .
Violence is violence. South African killed South Africans in thousands during Mandela's reign as president Vs Chief Buthelezi. ANC men Vs Inkatha men.
When you have 80 million Islamic believers as natural born citizens of South Africa including Shia and Sunni Islamic fundamentalists like we have in Nigeria, then South Africa will have home made terrorists and extremists on your streets, even your SANDF army chief of staff will find it hard to drive around Cape Town in his convoy.
Then those 80 million South African Islamists will make your country an SADC region Boko Haram terror zone.
Don't tell lies. There is no moment in SA where people were killed in thousands. I mean even during the reigns of the murderous apartheid regime, they never killed in thousands let alone in hundreds.
You have the problem of extremism today because you have stu.pid leaders. You neglected the north for too long and ended up with the rich SOUTH and the poor NORTH situation. You see why we always argue that Nigerians are born with the DNA of stu.pidity. One man on the western forums said you are more like a stup.id house wife who uses insecticides to kill flies but does not take out the trash from the house. You have stu.pid Nigerian born leaders who have the confort of security on their side and have the guts to run to the media and shout that Boko Haram has been defeated without caring for the security of others. That is provocation because even if Boko haram is lying low, someone stup.id like Buhari would mess it up with it. Yet does not know that no amount of weapons can defeat a leopard. You are all products of wasted spematozoa.
1. I have posted the year 2006-2010 various sized 300 vessels procurement here many times repeatedly, including those from Australia, Vietnam, Singapore shipyards. How many times will I repeat it, you think I am a jobless man with no use for my time? You think I get paid salary on Nairaland time spent posting comments?
2. The major ships list is available on Navy website.
3. I posted yesterday the 2016 brand new 100 vessels purchase, so that completes all needed proofs.
Dude, stop killing this thread like you almost killed the photo thread with foolish comments and demands for citations to be repeated for you again and again....like yõu have brain disease and mental cognitive disorder? .
You are truly an authentic original dummy. Give us a source for your 500 vessels.
LOL...Denel, fake South African made products everywhere, most Denel products have 30% to 90% foreign content from Europe.
A-Darter missile has 40% imported foreign parts manufactured by different countries, yet they say proudly made in South Africa qnd hide the fact that there is 40% imported foreign made parts that are possibly subject to arms embargo if war arises.
Fake South African made by Denel as usual.
You are always making claims without supporting sources. You are indeed tiring us.
You were the one who was arguing on the other thread, not me. You are the one whos comments derail the other thread not mine. I post more frequently on that other thread than you, I post more content on the other thread than you do and I have never once derailed it - have you ever noticed that apart from Henry none of the members on the other thread ever respond to you? There is a reason for that.
You are now nothing more than a troll augbug, and the worst part is that you dont know it.
I am smarter than global firepower, why should I consult a source that ranks Niger Republique as more powerful militarily than Sudan, when that Niger Republic has ONLY 2 Frogfoot jets and 2 Hind helicopters, BUT no interceptor jet, no tanks, no SAM systems, no defense industry, no IFV, no missiles, no artillery, and a tiny army of about 5,000 men with near ZERO real war experience.
Reason why you are a waste and a liability on the photo thread....you will openly support wrong information when you clearly know it is wrong, you do not care about misleading innocent readers as long as you suit your own personal purpose. You are not a commentator to be trusted and relied on with your posts on any thread anywhere in this world. You post more than me on the photo thread, yes you post a lot of talk more than pictures, and you post A LOT OF AMERICAN, EUROPEAN, ASIAN photos and videos on an AFRICAN THREAD and you also post irrelevant junk like rap music and hip pop.....what a big derailing and unfocused fool you are at your adult age ....see below, the American music video you posted on that African military photo thread today....Patches you are indeed an out-patient who weekly visits a Psychiatric hospital for on-going long term treatement !!!!!
You are truly an authentic original dummy. Give us a source for your 500 vessels.
1. I have posted the year 2006-2010 various sized 300 vessels procurement here many times repeatedly, including those from Australia, Vietnam, Singapore shipyards. How many times will I repeat it, you think I am a jobless man with no use for my time? You think I get paid salary on Nairaland time spent posting comments?
2. The major ships list is available on Navy website.
3. I posted yesterday the 2016 brand new 100 vessels purchase, so that completes all needed proofs.
Dude, stop killing this thread like you almost killed the photo thread with foolish comments and demands for citations to be repeated for you again and again....like yõu have brain disease and mental cognitive disorder?
You have the problem of extremism today because you have stu.pid leaders. You neglected the north for too long and ended up with the rich SOUTH and the poor NORTH situation. You see why we always argue that Nigerians are born with the DNA of stu.pidity. One man on the western forums said you are more like a stup.id house wife who uses insecticides to kill flies but does not take out the trash from the house. You have stu.pid Nigerian born leaders who have the confort of security on their side and have the guts to run to the media and shout that Boko Haram has been defeated without caring for the security of others. That is provocation because even if Boko haram is lying low, someone stup.id like Buhari would mess it up with it. Yet does not know that no amount of weapons can defeat a leopard. You are all products of wasted spematozoa.
See your South African black family being roasted like bush meat by your own black people below, Mandela Vs Buthelezi war
Don't tell lies. There is no moment in SA where people were killed in thousands. I mean even during the reigns of the murderous apartheid regime, they never killed in thousands let alone in hundreds.
14,000 black South Africans killed by fellow black South Africans in ANC Vs Inkatha war of hatred in Mandela's term as president. You South Africans should be expelled from Nairaland for deliberate and random telling of lies on EVERY THREAD WHERE YOUR PEOPLE SHOW UP.
"Supporters of the Inkatha Freedom Party were quick to follow the lead of the ANC and formed Self Protection Units (SPUs) on the pretext of protecting their communities from onslaughts from ANC cadres. Once again, weapons proliferated in IFP strongholds, with consequences similar to those in ANC controlled communities. The violence took its heaviest toll in KwaZulu/Natal where the war between supporters of the ANC and the IFP, which had erupted in1983 when the UDF began to "invade" IFP areas the IFP regarded as being part of its territory. More South Africans – almost 14,000 were killed in South Africa during the four and a half years following the release of Mandela in February 1990 and his inauguration as President of South Africa in May 1994 than had been killed in the previous 42 years of the apartheid."
See your South African black family being roasted like bush meat by your own black people below, Mandela Vs Buthelezi war
14,000 black South Africans killed by fellow black South Africans in ANC Vs Inkatha war of hatred in Mandela's term as president. You South Africans should be expelled from Nairaland for deliberate and random telling of lies on EVERY THREAD WHERE YOUR PEOPLE SHOW UP.
"Supporters of the Inkatha Freedom Party were quick to follow the lead of the ANC and formed Self Protection Units (SPUs) on the pretext of protecting their communities from onslaughts from ANC cadres. Once again, weapons proliferated in IFP strongholds, with consequences similar to those in ANC controlled communities. The violence took its heaviest toll in KwaZulu/Natal where the war between supporters of the ANC and the IFP, which had erupted in1983 when the UDF began to "invade" IFP areas the IFP regarded as being part of its territory. More South Africans – almost 14,000 were killed in South Africa during the four and a half years following the release of Mandela in February 1990 and his inauguration as President of South Africa in May 1994 than had been killed in the previous 42 years of the apartheid."
BLACK ON BLACK VIOLENCE, SOUTH AFRICANS FIRE ROASTING THEIR OWN FELLOW SOUTH AFRICANS, MANDELA VS BUTHELEZI
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That is purely a political violence and is not compared to extremism. It seems as if my fellow Nigerian here does not understand the meaning and the gravity of extremism. It is the violence of the worst order perpetrated by a terrorist group. Inkatha was not a terrorist group either.
The situation in SA could best be portrayed as when two rival soccer club play in Nigeria and their supporters go on rampage killing one another. In extremism, it will be like a case in Rwanda and Nigeria where members of a particular religion or ethnicity plough on other people and killing them in mass. Now you show us a picture of only one man being burned to death. We want you to show us pictures of mass number of people being burned to death like the picture below portraying how Christians were burned to death in Nigeria by BH.
1. I have posted the year 2006-2010 various sized 300 vessels procurement here many times repeatedly, including those from Australia, Vietnam, Singapore shipyards. How many times will I repeat it, you think I am a jobless man with no use for my time? You think I get paid salary on Nairaland time spent posting comments?
2. The major ships list is available on Navy website.
3. I posted yesterday the 2016 brand new 100 vessels purchase, so that completes all needed proofs.
Dude, stop killing this thread like you almost killed the photo thread with foolish comments and demands for citations to be repeated for you again and again....like yõu have brain disease and mental cognitive disorder? .
I am smarter than global firepower, why should I consult a source that ranks Niger Republique as more powerful militarily than Sudan, when that Niger Republic has ONLY 2 Frogfoot jets and 2 Hind helicopters, BUT no interceptor jet, no tanks, no SAM systems, no defense industry, no IFV, no missiles, no artillery, and a tiny army of about 5,000 men with near ZERO real war experience.
Reason why you are a waste and a liability on the photo thread....you will openly support wrong information when you clearly know it is wrong, you do not care about misleading innocent readers as long as you suit your own personal purpose. You are not a commentator to be trusted and relied on with your posts on any thread anywhere in this world. You post more than me on the photo thread, yes you post a lot of talk more than pictures, and you post A LOT OF AMERICAN, EUROPEAN, ASIAN photos and videos on an AFRICAN THREAD.....what a big derailing and unfocused fool you are at your adult age .
You are smarter than global firepower? So what is wrong with the equation they use?
Really? quote where i have posted western or eastern gear.
Fact is, you are persona-non-grata on the other thread
See your South African black family being roasted like bush meat by your own black people below, Mandela Vs Buthelezi war
14,000 black South Africans killed by fellow black South Africans in ANC Vs Inkatha war of hatred in Mandela's term as president. You South Africans should be expelled from Nairaland for deliberate and random telling of lies on EVERY THREAD WHERE YOUR PEOPLE SHOW UP.
"Supporters of the Inkatha Freedom Party were quick to follow the lead of the ANC and formed Self Protection Units (SPUs) on the pretext of protecting their communities from onslaughts from ANC cadres. Once again, weapons proliferated in IFP strongholds, with consequences similar to those in ANC controlled communities. The violence took its heaviest toll in KwaZulu/Natal where the war between supporters of the ANC and the IFP, which had erupted in1983 when the UDF began to "invade" IFP areas the IFP regarded as being part of its territory. More South Africans – almost 14,000 were killed in South Africa during the four and a half years following the release of Mandela in February 1990 and his inauguration as President of South Africa in May 1994 than had been killed in the previous 42 years of the apartheid."
BLACK ON BLACK VIOLENCE, SOUTH AFRICANS FIRE ROASTING THEIR OWN FELLOW SOUTH AFRICANS, MANDELA VS BUTHELEZI
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You are not afraid to tell lies anymore. Where do you get your 14000 from? You Nigerian are smoking too much of the stuff that you always sell around the corners of Johannesburg. We have never had a situation where we lost 14000 people in any of our previous conflicts. To be exact not even hundred we dared to lose in any massacre. So your post remains worthless and must be rubbished as a product of lunatic.
1. I have posted the year 2006-2010 various sized 300 vessels procurement here many times repeatedly, including those from Australia, Vietnam, Singapore shipyards. How many times will I repeat it, you think I am a jobless man with no use for my time? You think I get paid salary on Nairaland time spent posting comments?
2. The major ships list is available on Navy website.
3. I posted yesterday the 2016 brand new 100 vessels purchase, so that completes all needed proofs.
Dude, stop killing this thread like you almost killed the photo thread with foolish comments and demands for citations to be repeated for you again and again....like yõu have brain disease and mental cognitive disorder?
Are you crazy? So do you want to tell me that you are now on the same level with Superpowers? If you had a navy with a total vessels that amount to 500, not even America would have dared to donate their garbage to you. I suspect that you haven't visited a navy base in your life. That's why you would suggest that your poor Nigerian navy boast about 500 vessels. For your information, Nigerian Navy is listed as one of the poorest navies in the world and is still in the donor database of the US military. A long list of militaries that the US military donates their scraps to when they are done with them. SA military as a whole is no longer a charity case and has been removed from the donor database long ago since is now regarded as the big dog that can now take care of itself.
That is purely a political violence and is not compared to extremism. It seems as if my fellow Nigerian here does not understand the meaning and the gravity of extremism. It is the violence of the worst order perpetrated by a terrorist group. Inkatha was not a terrorist group either.
The situation in SA could best be portrayed as when two rival soccer club play in Nigeria and their supporters go on rampage killing one another. In extremism, it will be like a case in Rwanda and Nigeria where members of a particular religion or ethnicity plough on other people and killing them in mass. Now you show us a picture of only one man being burned to death. We want you to show us pictures of mass number of people being burned to death like the picture below portraying how Christians were burned to death in Nigeria by BH.
You are always making claims without supporting sources. You are indeed tiring us.
Reminds me why i stopped regularly posting here a long time ago. Just a big joke for trolls. Dozens of countries were involved in supplying components to NASA's Apollo programme. But under engineering management of NASA.
Same way in which Denel does detailed engineering work, calculations, drawings, test rigs etc etc. Once this is known, specific parts which are too expensive to manufacture are ordered. Those ordered parts are also themselves not off the shelf. The chosen supplier must adapt to whatever strict parameters are assigned to them. And i can tell you, most of the time when we order specific parts the manufacturer doesnt know where their component will be used and exactly what its for. We specify X input of force/temperature/etc and want Y output of this force/temperature/etc with Z space/weight/material/etc limitations.
Otherwise countries all over the world would have their own missile programmes simply by ordering parts from all over the world and assembling their own missiles. They cant do this because they didnt go through step one, in-house design and engineering.
You have a much better ability than me to waste your time on people on this thread.
Reminds me why i stopped regularly posting here a long time ago. Just a big joke for trolls. Dozens of countries were involved in supplying components to NASA's Apollo programme. But under engineering management of NASA.
Same way in which Denel does detailed engineering work, calculations, drawings, test rigs etc etc. Once this is known, specific parts which are too expensive to manufacture are ordered. Those ordered parts are also themselves not off the shelf. The chosen supplier must adapt to whatever strict parameters are assigned to them. And i can tell you, most of the time when we order specific parts the manufacturer doesnt know where their component will be used and exactly what its for. We specify X input of force/temperature/etc and want Y output of this force/temperature/etc with Z space/weight/material/etc limitations.
Otherwise countries all over the world would have their own missile programmes simply by ordering parts from all over the world and assembling their own missiles. They cant do this because they didnt go through step one, in-house design and engineering.
You have a much better ability than me to waste your time on people on this thread.
I post sources for my claims more than anybody on this thread, go check my posts. I dont make false claims like Southies do.
"The A-Darter now uses 40% foreign parts so it increases not only the costs but also the vulnerabilities at winning orders with countries with bad relations to countries like the US, UK and other EU countries. As shareholder in Denel, I would like an increase in Net Profit"
The above is a readers comment from a very regular and respected military commentator on defenceweb, he is known to be an SANDF officer and a shareholder in Denel.
Milzikazi is one of the worst South Africans on this thread with lies, open denial of proven facts, while Patches engages in deliberate mis-information on a daily basis. Fighter Pilot makes totally stüpïd comments that makes no sense.
These same South Africans misled you last two weeks with an outdated May 2015 report that NAF has only 7 operational aircraft in total, yet you were quick to believe it and post a ridicule of NAF based on that story because it suits your purpose. I replied with an up to date official NAF report of August 2015 stating that almost the entire NAF fleet of about 100 North East combat sortie aircraft went on sheduled maintenance during the May to July 2015 period after flying thousands of combat sorties non-stop from January to April 2015, and now all the aircraft are back in flying combat operations having completed their scheduled maintenance.
Yet with all the evidences posted from NAF HQ, your fellow South Africans continue to post here EVERYDAY repeatedly that NAF has only 7 operational aircraft, even despite a new NAF 2016 video now released to the public showing that contrary to the May 2015 report, F-7 jets, Agusta helos, drones, etc are all in operation at war. Yet your fellow South Africans keep posting comments on this thread daily that NAF has only 7 operational aircraft and that is made up of just 3 Alpha jets, no F-7 jets, no L-39 jets, no Puma, no Agusta, no ATR-42, etc.
Yesterday you responded with ridicule on Nigeria to a comment by South African Mzilikazi that South African mercenary pilots were training NAF pilots to fly F-7 jets, Alpha jets, ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft, you were supporting his comment by making ridicules through it, is that a healthy comment? Is that claim true? It is realistic? Is it proven with facts?
Yet you come here the next day and act like a saint and the most decent/responsible man on this thread/forum....you are a 100% hypocrite Saengine.
How does that make a healthy and educative debate on this forum? You deliberately turn a blind eye to the mess and lies your South African friends tell on this forum, and keep making hypocritical comments that Nigerians post false comments that made you stop commenting on this thread.
Fool, liar, hypocrite, that is what you are Saengine.
Me, I am going to begin ignoring this forum gradually until sanity returns, I dont want to invest and waste much time on a forum where healthy and constructive debate cannot be done simply because South Africans national ego that was overblown has been bursted with facts and figures that make you guys realise you live in a world of self delusion and hidden secrets of a rotten military force which has declined to the level of Cuba training SANDF and SAAF, your Zulu/Xhosa/Bantu led ANC government has quenched the glory of apartheid era when South Africa was an all round great nation that was feared and respected worldwide for near European standards in everthing .
Reminds me why i stopped regularly posting here a long time ago. Just a big joke for trolls. Dozens of countries were involved in supplying components to NASA's Apollo programme. But under engineering management of NASA.
Same way in which Denel does detailed engineering work, calculations, drawings, test rigs etc etc. Once this is known, specific parts which are too expensive to manufacture are ordered. Those ordered parts are also themselves not off the shelf. The chosen supplier must adapt to whatever strict parameters are assigned to them. And i can tell you, most of the time when we order specific parts the manufacturer doesnt know where their component will be used and exactly what its for. We specify X input of force/temperature/etc and want Y output of this force/temperature/etc with Z space/weight/material/etc limitations.
Otherwise countries all over the world would have their own missile programmes simply by ordering parts from all over the world and assembling their own missiles. They cant do this because they didnt go through step one, in-house design and engineering.
You have a much better ability than me to waste your time on people on this thread.
Saengine, you in particular are a disgusting hypocrite.
I never have recourse to call people out online, but your "holier than thou" attitude has provided me a need to call your bluff.
If you want to fvck off the thread, by all means leave. You like to laugh at the heat, but when it's turned around, you start preaching. Keep your sermons to yourself.
Saengine, you in particular are a disgusting hypocrite.
I never have recourse to call people out online, but your "holier than thou" attitude has provided me a need to call your bluff.
If you want to fvck off the thread, by all means leave. You like to laugh at the heat, but when it's turned around, you start preaching. Keep your sermons to yourself.
"By all means leave"...shame boo boo. Who was talking to you? You'll notice the person i was talking to was not you. Which "heat" has there been for me in the past many months? Go back to my history and you'll see when i stopped wasting data on you. I post pics and articles, simple.
I give a completely neutral heads-up that Denel will annouce its biggest contract this year. A simple statement for those interested both Nigerian and South African. Then someone feels the need to quote me and tell me how Denel products are "fake" simply to start an argument....just like a troll. That's what trolls do, deal with it. I explain how Denel functions just like any other high tech engineering company. Now you bring in your d*ck to this org.y just to try sound relevent....go hang, i dont care.
[s] I post sources for my claims more than anybody on this thread, go check my posts. I dont make false claims like Southies do.
"The A-Darter now uses 40% foreign parts so it increases not only the costs but also the vulnerabilities at winning orders with countries with bad relations to countries like the US, UK and other EU countries."
The above is a readers comment from a very regular and respected military commentator on defenceweb, he is known to be an SANDF officer and a shareholder in Denel.
Milzikazi is one of the worst South Africans on this thread with lies, open denial of proven facts, while Patches engages in deliberate mis-information on a daily basis. Fighter Pilot makes totally stüpïd comments that makes no sense.
These same South Africans misled you last two weeks with an outdated May 2015 report that NAF has only 7 operational aircraft in total, yet you were quick to believe it and post a ridicule of NAF based on that story because it suits your purpose. I replied with an up to date official NAF report of August 2015 stating that almost the entire NAF fleet of about 100 North East combat sortie aircraft went on sheduled maintenance during the May to July 2015 period after flying thousands of combat sorties non-stop from January to April 2015, and now all the aircraft are back in flying combat operations having completed their scheduled maintenance.
Yet with all the evidences posted from NAF HQ, your fellow South Africans continue to post here EVERYDAY repeatedly that NAF has only 7 operational aircraft, even despite a new NAF 2016 video now released to the public showing that contrary to the May 2015 report, F-7 jets, Agusta helos, drones, etc are all in operation at war. Yet your fellow South Africans keep posting comments on this thread daily that NAF has only 7 operational aircraft and that is made up of just 3 Alpha jets, no F-7 jets, no L-39 jets, no Puma, no Agusta, no ATR-42, etc.
Yesterday you responded with ridicule on Nigeria to a comment by South African Mzilikazi that South African mercenary pilots were training NAF pilots to fly F-7 jets, Alpha jets, ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft, you were supporting his comment by making ridicules through it, is that a healthy comment? Is that claim true? It is realistic? Is it proven with facts?
Yet you come here the next day and act like a saint and the most decent/responsible man on this thread/forum....you are a 100% hypocrite Saengine.
How does that make a healthy and educative debate on this forum? You deliberately turn a blind eye to the mess and lies your South African friends tell on this forum, and keep making hypocritical comments that Nigerians post false comments that made you stop commenting on this thread.
Fool, liar, hypocrite, that is what you are Saengine.
Me, I am going to begin ignoring this forum gradually until sanity returns, I dont want to invest and waste much time on a forum where healthy and constructive debate cannot be done simply because South Africans national ego that was overblown has been bursted with facts and figures that make you guys realise you live in a world of self delusion and hidden secrets of a rotten military force which has declined to the level of Cuba training SANDF and SAAF, your Zulu/Xhosa/Bantu led ANC government has quenched the glory of apartheid era when South Africa was an all round great nation that was feared and respected worldwide for near European standards in everthing[/s] .
1. Did you really just quote a mans opinion from the comments section as fact? He is not known to be an SANDF officer and he is not known to be a Denel shareholder... I should know, he is one of my followers on Disquss. He is involved in finance with one of the big banks (HSBC I believe).
Whats next? you going to quote the comments section on beegugugugs blog as fact?
2. Your source does not say all 100 are operational - it says that they flew X many sorties which ammounts to just under 2 sorties per day for your 7 assets. Simple arthimatic shows you only have 7 operational platforms, and your Military Officers confirm it
"By all means leave"...shame boo boo. Who was talking to you? You'll notice the person i was talking to was not you. Which "heat" has there been for me in the past many months? Go back to my history and you'll see when i stopped wasting data on you. I post pics and articles, simple.
I give a completely neutral heads-up that Denel will annouce its biggest contract this year. A simple statement for those interested both Nigerian and South African. Then someone feels the need to quote me and tell me how Denel products are "fake" simply to start an argument....just like a troll. That's what trolls do, deal with it. I explain how Denel functions just like any other high tech engineering company. Now you bring in your d*ck to this org.y just to try sound relevent....go hang, i dont care.
I'm not going to go back and forth with you. My comment is clear.
I post sources for my claims more than anybody on this thread, go check my posts. I dont make false claims like Southies do.
"The A-Darter now uses 40% foreign parts so it increases not only the costs but also the vulnerabilities at winning orders with countries with bad relations to countries like the US, UK and other EU countries."
The above is a readers comment from a very regular and respected military commentator on defenceweb, he is known to be an SANDF officer and a shareholder in Denel.
Milzikazi is one of the worst South Africans on this thread with lies, open denial of proven facts, while Patches engages in deliberate mis-information on a daily basis. Fighter Pilot makes totally stüpïd comments that makes no sense.
These same South Africans misled you last two weeks with an outdated May 2015 report that NAF has only 7 operational aircraft in total, yet you were quick to believe it and post a ridicule of NAF based on that story because it suits your purpose. I replied with an up to date official NAF report of August 2015 stating that almost the entire NAF fleet of about 100 North East combat sortie aircraft went on sheduled maintenance during the May to July 2015 period after flying thousands of combat sorties non-stop from January to April 2015, and now all the aircraft are back in flying combat operations having completed their scheduled maintenance.
Yet with all the evidences posted from NAF HQ, your fellow South Africans continue to post here EVERYDAY repeatedly that NAF has only 7 operational aircraft, even despite a new NAF 2016 video now released to the public showing that contrary to the May 2015 report, F-7 jets, Agusta helos, drones, etc are all in operation at war. Yet your fellow South Africans keep posting comments on this thread daily that NAF has only 7 operational aircraft and that is made up of just 3 Alpha jets, no F-7 jets, no L-39 jets, no Puma, no Agusta, no ATR-42, etc.
Yesterday you responded with ridicule on Nigeria to a comment by South African Mzilikazi that South African mercenary pilots were training NAF pilots to fly F-7 jets, Alpha jets, ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft, you were supporting his comment by making ridicules through it, is that a healthy comment? Is that claim true? It is realistic? Is it proven with facts?
Yet you come here the next day and act like a saint and the most decent/responsible man on this thread/forum....you are a 100% hypocrite Saengine.
How does that make a healthy and educative debate on this forum? You deliberately turn a blind eye to the mess and lies your South African friends tell on this forum, and keep making hypocritical comments that Nigerians post false comments that made you stop commenting on this thread.
Fool, liar, hypocrite, that is what you are Saengine.
Me, I am going to begin ignoring this forum gradually until sanity returns, I dont want to invest and waste much time on a forum where healthy and constructive debate cannot be done simply because South Africans national ego that was overblown has been bursted with facts and figures that make you guys realise you live in a world of self delusion and hidden secrets of a rotten military force which has declined to the level of Cuba training SANDF and SAAF, your Zulu/Xhosa/Bantu led ANC government has quenched the glory of apartheid era when South Africa was an all round great nation that was feared and respected worldwide for near European standards in everthing .
Have you seen that you are the one who is always making unfounded claims here. You always concoct things that your source never mentions. Just like now you claim that 40% of A-Darter tech is imported. Show us where your source says so. You always want to be right.
Bwahahaha… you forget that you are still holding on to the news that was made 2010 about SA having few gripen pilots and even today you are still going on about it. So, what is wrong about us utilising not so long ago source as evidence to dispute your lies? You now suffer the bitterness of your own medicine. Can I still remind you that 50% of your only 100 vessels is broken and you have only 7 operational assets in the whole NAF.
"By all means leave"...shame boo boo. Who was talking to you? You'll notice the person i was talking to was not you. Which "heat" has there been for me in the past many months? Go back to my history and you'll see when i stopped wasting data on you. I post pics and articles, simple.
I give a completely neutral heads-up that Denel will annouce its biggest contract this year. A simple statement for those interested both Nigerian and South African. Then someone feels the need to quote me and tell me how Denel products are "fake" simply to start an argument....just like a troll.
Your South African friends trolling and saying South Africans mercenaries train Nigerian air force to fly F-7 jet and ATR-42 was good enough for you to respond to in ridicule of NAF, you yourself are a troll like your fellow Southies here.
1. Did you really just quote a mans opinion from the comments section as fact? He is not known to be an SANDF officer and he is not known to be a Denel shareholder... He is involved in finance with one of the big banks (HSBC I believe).
Matthys Jacobs...He claims to be both, on defecnceweb, so YOU NEED TO PROVE HIM WRONG !
