mzilakazi:
Bidexii in SA we are only violent but we haven't yet reached the level of extremism.

Extremism is the worst form of violence where people are killed in mass number without mercy for a cause that is either politically or religiously motivated. So, sorry we are just only violent but not extremists. No comparison there

Every country has its own time of domestic crisis. South Africa has horrors when Inkatha movement and ANC supporters were macheting, clubing, stoning and fire roasting innocent people to death in Mandela's era of presidence Vs Chief Buthelezi.

You hide your own country's shïït under carpet and point at others. Reason why we Nigerians remind you of your past and current horrors of bloodshed inside South Africa.

mzilakazi:


I use wiki because I am really tired of digging for Info.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_South_African_Navy_ships

You have no reliable source, thats why you quote wikipedia that you South Africans freely edit and corrupt Wikipedia data to suit your taste and mislead the world. Liars !

agaugust:



Obsolete data obsolete source of many years ago. This year alone Nigerian navy bought 30 brand new high speed IFVs from Sri Lanka, 30 nee vessels in one day. NN anti-piracy fleet got about 300 small and medium vessels from 2008 to 2014. All these facts have been posted here repeatedly no need to go back.

That is 2016 data. Apart from that I proved Henry wrong with a source that showed Nigeria's Navy ten year plan of acquiring 49 ships. It will take Nigeria over ten years to acquire 49 ships and most positively it might not happen within that time frame. Ships are not peanuts, they cost fortune.

jln115:

Twice as many murders a day in Nigeria than SA mate!!

Thats because we have almost 5 times your population. Thats also why murder rate by world standards is measured per capita/per thousand heads of population or else China will have the highest murders in the world due to population, and it will be a wrong impression. This has been explained to you dullards many times.

South Africa has a higher murder rate per capita of population than Nigeria. Confirmed worldwide.

agaugust:


You have no reliable source, thats why you quote wikipedia that you South Africans freely edit and corrupt Wikipedia data to suit your taste and mislead the world. Liars !

Look at the names of the ships and leave wiki alone. You must give us the names of your 500 ships.

Stop politicking wiki. The names do exist.

agaugust:


Thats because we have almost 5 times your population. Thats also why murder rate by world standards is measured per capita/per thousand heads of population or else China will have the highest murders in the world due to population, and it will be a wrong impression. This has been explained to you dullards many times.

South Africa has a higher murder rate per capita of population than Nigeria. Confirmed worldwide.

That's not an excuse. Don't hide behind your largest population. You have almost 3X more murders per number than those of Nigeria.

mzilakazi:



The whole world know how you have been using SA mercenaries to push back BH. They know who they have been training your inexperienced pilots to fly their jets and helps effectively and even how to service them.

South Africans train Nigeria to fly F-7 jets, Alpha jets, ATR-42 Surveyor? Do you have pilots for those aircraft in South Africa?

This is how you Southies almost destroyed the other thread, the photo thread, by posting insane comments and messing up that photo thread, every other African laughs at the shameless types of human creatures you South Africans are. No wonder your citizens are ranked second dullest brains in the world for two years running.

mzilakazi:


That is 2016 data. Apart from that I proved Henry wrong with a source that showed Nigeria's Navy ten year plan of acquiring 49 ships. It will take Nigeria over ten years to acquire 49 ships and most positively it might not happen within that time frame. Ships are not peanuts, they cost fortune.

Nigerian navy has about 500 vessels in total.

400 as at 2015 and 500 as at 2016. Extra 100 new vessels purchased 2016.

It is NOT a 2016 report, it does not reflect the 100 new naval IPVs purchased by NN from Nigerian ship builders and Sri Lanka. It does not even count our 52 Palmaria SPHA it records only 25 from the 1980s. Your source os obsolete and full of wrong data.

The NN has ordered for 30 inshore patrol boats from indigenous manufacturer in the first instance to enhance operational effectiveness and promote local content development.

Nigerian navy is adding 100 brand new vessels from 2016 January to March.

“The NN has ordered for 30 inshore patrol boats from indigenous manufacturer in the first instance to enhance operational effectiveness and promote local content development.
About 70 more from the manufacturer and from Sri Lanka as well as other countries will hopefully join the fleet before the end of the first quarter of 2016".


http://thenationonlineng.net/why-nigeria-must-equip-her-navy/

Yes, Nigerian navy is the largest in Africa , we have about 400 previous and 100 new 2016 additional procuremnt vessels of various sizes rocking the seas of Africa.
.

agaugust:


South Africans train Nigeria to fly F-7 jets, Alpha jets, ATR-42 Surveyor? Do you have pilots for those aircraft in South Africa?

This is how you Southies almost destroyed the other thread, the photo thread, by posting insane comments and messing up that photo thread, every other African laughs at the shameless types of human creatures you South Africans are. No wonder your citizens are ranked second dullest brains in the world for two years running.

ATR is not a fighter and any civilian trained pilot can fly it with no problem. F7 is just a copy of MIG platform which most mercs pilots have been trained in. Alpha jets are just a walk in the park. Hind is just a daily bread of the mercs pilots.

mzilakazi:
Henry must know that navy ships does not come easy as if they are peanuts. They cost a leg and arm. Here NIGERIA wants to acquire 49 ships in the next decade, meaning in the next ten years and that could as well not materialise because it takes almost a year to build one Big naval ship.


http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-4023/

Now, Henry tells us about Nigeria Navy having acquired 100 brand new ships as if money is growing from Nigerian trees.

Is all about LIES!!! LIES!!!! LIES!!!

A standard navy has different types of vessels for various roles....warships and patrol ships OPV,MPV,IPV.

Nigerian navy is adding 100 brand new vessels from 2016 January to March.

“The NN has ordered for 30 inshore patrol boats from indigenous manufacturer in the first instance to enhance operational effectiveness and promote local content development.
About 70 more from the manufacturer and from Sri Lanka as well as other countries will hopefully join the fleet before the end of the first quarter of 2016".


http://thenationonlineng.net/why-nigeria-must-equip-her-navy/

Go dïe of envy, choke Southie, choke !!!

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mzilakazi:


ATR is not a fighter and any civilian trained pilot can fly it with no problem. F7 is just a copy of MIG platform which most mercs pilots have been trained in. Alpha jets are just a walk in the park. Hind is just a daily bread of the mercs pilots.

Every South African is product of a wasted sperm and an unlucky egg.

agaugust:


It is NOT a 2016 report, it does not reflect the 100 new naval IPVs purchased by NN from Nigerian ship builders and Sri Lanka. It does not even count our 52 Palmaria SPHA it records only 25 from the 1980s. Your source os obsolete and full of wrong data.

The NN has ordered for 30 inshore patrol boats from indigenous manufacturer in the first instance to enhance operational effectiveness and promote local content development.

Nigerian navy is adding 100 brand new vessels from 2016 January to March.

“The NN has ordered for 30 inshore patrol boats from indigenous manufacturer in the first instance to enhance operational effectiveness and promote local content development.
About 70 more from the manufacturer and from Sri Lanka as well as other countries will hopefully join the fleet before the end of the first quarter of 2016".


http://thenationonlineng.net/why-nigeria-must-equip-her-navy/

Yes, Nigerian navy is the largest in Africa , we have about 400 vessels of various sizes rocking the seas of Africa
.

When I read the source I have almost concluded that it is just an essay written by just a military lay person. I expect you to give me a news report not an essay. NN does not have 100 vessels, you have far less than even 60 ships for your whole Navy.

agaugust:


Every South African is product of a wasted sperm and an unlucky egg.

I knew that you are allergic to the truth. You have committed yourself to speaking untruths.

mzilakazi:
Global Firepower Ranking for African Militaries

[size=30]2016[/size]

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa.asp

Your retärded source ranks Nigér Republiqùe that has NO SINGLE interceptor jet as a more powerful military than Sudan the flies a dozen MiG-29 air superiority jets with BVR missiles.

South Africans are born fools
.

Agaugust it is only superpowers that can boast 500 navy fleet. In Africa there is no such a Navy, even Egypt which boast about 245 fleet will take ages to reach that level of over 500 operational ships in their navy.

Patchesagain:


1. It says in your book that the plants are owned and run by foreign companies

2. South Africa cannot produce tracked armored vehicles? Pic realted, we built a Main Battle Tank - not some crumby lightly armored obsolete APC built by foreigeners

1. Where does it say that? DICON owns and runs the Bauchi plant and Nigerian government owns DICON, even the Steyr company that was involved in the contract is Steyr Nigeria Limited. You cannot stop lying, can you?

2. South Africa builds NO TANKS ! That photo is imported British Centurion tanks that you upgraded to Olifant by adding new body armour, the tracks are still the same British centurion tank tacks you liar !!!!!

Show us South African industry made TRACKED APC, AFV, MORTAR CARRIER, COMMAND POST, AMBULANCE....show us, like we have shown you made in Nigeria versions !!!

We bëat you completely on this
.

agaugust:


Your retärded source ranks Nigér Republiqùe that has NO SINGLE interceptor jet as a ore powerful military than Sudan the flies a dozen MiG-29 air superiority jets with BVR missiles.

South Africans are born fools
.

Thats how it goes chief, atleast from the credible source that is supported by military factory and various military journals.

Some people who are military layperson like agaugust would call ordinary boats as core Navy ships. There is a huge difference.

agaugust:



Obsolete data obsolete source of many years ago. This year alone Nigerian navy bought 30 brand new high speed IFVs from Sri Lanka, 30 nee vessels in one day. NN anti-piracy fleet got about 300 small and medium vessels from 2008 to 2014. All these facts have been posted here repeatedly no need to go back.

List the vessels

agaugust:


Nigerian navy has about 500 vessels in total.

400 as at 2015 and 500 as at 2016. Extra 100 new vessels purchased 2016.

It is NOT a 2016 report, it does not reflect the 100 new naval IPVs purchased by NN from Nigerian ship builders and Sri Lanka. It does not even count our 52 Palmaria SPHA it records only 25 from the 1980s. Your source os obsolete and full of wrong data.

The NN has ordered for 30 inshore patrol boats from indigenous manufacturer in the first instance to enhance operational effectiveness and promote local content development.

Nigerian navy is adding 100 brand new vessels from 2016 January to March.

“The NN has ordered for 30 inshore patrol boats from indigenous manufacturer in the first instance to enhance operational effectiveness and promote local content development.
About 70 more from the manufacturer and from Sri Lanka as well as other countries will hopefully join the fleet before the end of the first quarter of 2016".


http://thenationonlineng.net/why-nigeria-must-equip-her-navy/

Yes, Nigerian navy is the largest in Africa , we have about 400 previous and 100 new 2016 additional procuremnt vessels of various sizes rocking the seas of Africa.
.

There is no evidence to support the fact that you have 500 "vessles"

You have lots of BOATS and no where near 500 of them

agaugust:


A standard navy has different types of vessels for various roles....warships and patrol ships OPV,MPV,IPV.

Nigerian navy is adding 100 brand new vessels from 2016 January to March.

“The NN has ordered for 30 inshore patrol boats from indigenous manufacturer in the first instance to enhance operational effectiveness and promote local content development.
About 70 more from the manufacturer and from Sri Lanka as well as other countries will hopefully join the fleet before the end of the first quarter of 2016".


http://thenationonlineng.net/why-nigeria-must-equip-her-navy/

Go dïe of envy, choke Southie, choke !!!

.

Ok, so you have 100 BOATS

You are still short the other 400 you claim

And FYI, we are talking about ships... no one cares about coast guard boats

agaugust:


Your retärded source ranks Nigér Republiqùe that has NO SINGLE interceptor jet as a ore powerful military than Sudan the flies a dozen MiG-29 air superiority jets with BVR missiles.

South Africans are born fools
.

Because that is not the only thing that is considered.... it is a consideration of ALL FACTORS that leads to the ranking

agaugust:


1. Where does it say that? DICON owns and runs the Bauchi plant and Nigerian government owns DICON, even the Steyr company that was involved in the contract is Steyr Nigeria Limited. You cannot stop lying, can you?

2. South Africa builds NO TANKS ! That photo is imported British Centurion tanks that you upgraded to Olifant by adding new body armour, the tracks are still the same British centurion tank tacks you liar !!!!!

Show us South African industry made TRACKED APC, AFV, MORTAR CARRIER, COMMAND POST, AMBULANCE....show us, like we have shown you made in Nigeria versions !!!

We bëat you completely on this
.

1. It says in your link that they were set up and owned by foriegn companies. Do you want me to post it?

2. That is the Tank Technology Demonstrator... 100% indigenous. You asked for a tracked vehicle, you got one
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/tank_technology_demonstrator.htm

Why would we want to build something we dont use? Why are you bragging about things a foreign company built in Nigeria 30 years ago?

You beat us?


1. Nigerian made MRAP
2. Nigerian made artillery
3. Nigerian made SPG
4. Nigerian made MRLS
5. Nigerian made AFV with gun of 76mm or above
6. Nigerian made IFV
7. Nigerian made APC
8. Nigerian made Attack helicopter
9. Nigerian made helicopter
10.Nigerian made SAM
11. Nigerian made AAM
12 Nigerian made ASM
13 Nigerian made PGM (glide)
14 Nigerian made harkill system
15 Nigerian made Fire Controll System (Tank)
16 Nigerian made HMD
17 Nigerian made 30mm cannon
18 Nigerian made 35mm cannon
19 Nigerian made 12.5mm RCS
20 Nigerian made Artillery observation system
21. Nigerian made armed drone
22. Nigerian made Data-Link
23. Nigerian made Combat managment system
24. Nigerian made BLUEFOR tracker
25. Nigerian made 20mm sniper rifle
26. Nigerian made AGL (40mm)
27. Nigerian made MGL (40mm)
28. Nigerian made light tactical vehicle (armored)
29. Nigerian made light tactical vehicle (heavy)
30. Nigerian made pistol
31. Nigerian made SMG
32. Nigerian made general purpose machine gun
33. Rifle grenades
34. Nigerian made AT (unguided)
35. Nigerian made military trucks
36. Nigerian made mine clearance vehicle
37. Nigerian made LOCATS

Lol, no you didnt

mzilakazi:


I use wiki because I am really tired of digging for Info.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_South_African_Navy_ships

Idiot wiki as a source.

mzilakazi:


I use wiki because I am really tired of digging for Info.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_South_African_Navy_ships

Idiot wiki as a source.

It still less than 25 I asked for fool.

Even with wiki did you check how many wiki claimed we have even though it has not been updated.

mzilakazi:


ATR is not a fighter and any civilian trained pilot can fly it with no problem. F7 is just a copy of MIG platform which most mercs pilots have been trained in. Alpha jets are just a walk in the park. Hind is just a daily bread of the mercs pilots.

I've never seen anyone that is more Foolish than this guy

mzilakazi:


When I read the source I have almost concluded that it is just an essay written by just a military lay person. I expect you to give me a news report not an essay. NN does not have 100 vessels, you have far less than even 60 ships for your whole Navy.

Fool how many did wiki tell you we have even though it has not been updated. Then you should also tell us how many your beloved globalpower quoted.

bidexiii:


Using Statistics South Africa’s 2014 mid-year estimates, the murder rate in 2014/15 was 33 per 100,000, up from 32.1 in the last reporting period.
South Africa's murder rate is more than five times higher than the 2013 global average of 6.2 murders per 100,000.
Attempted murder cases increased by 3.2% from 16,989 in 2013/14 to 17,537 in 2014/15.


U r totally wrong ur murder rate keeps increasing, ur murder rate is 3-1 to Nigeria.....

And?? Im talking about the total amount of murders a year....Nigeria has over 30000 murders a year.

agaugust:


Thats because we have almost 5 times your population. Thats also why murder rate by world standards is measured per capita/per thousand heads of population or else China will have the highest murders in the world due to population, and it will be a wrong impression. This has been explained to you dullards many times.

South Africa has a higher murder rate per capita of population than Nigeria. Confirmed worldwide.

170 000 000 / 50 000 000 = 5.....According to Agaugust

Also its funny that you mentioned that it has to be measured in per capita!!! Well in that case our GDP is almost 3x higher....Let that sink in!!!

mzilakazi:


ATR is not a fighter and any civilian trained pilot can fly it with no problem. F7 is just a copy of MIG platform which most mercs pilots have been trained in. Alpha jets are just a walk in the park. Hind is just a daily bread of the mercs pilots.

Ouch. Ouch....aaand ouch

Patchesagain:


Because that is not the only thing that is considered.... it is a consideration of ALL FACTORS that leads to the ranking

Show us what factors make Nigér Republiqùe more powerful than Sudan in military might. Show us how you and global firepower are correct, that is how you almost ruined the other thread arguing that SF and SOF are not the same thing worldwide apart from in USA.

Anywhere South African appear, people get fed with wrong information and you do it deliberately, that is the type of citizens South Africa produces, no wonder Somalis are ranked better brains than Southies.

Patchesagain:


Ok, so you have 100 BOATS

You are still short the other 400 you claim

And FYI, we are talking about ships... no one cares about coast guard boats

The navy report about 50% non operational includes ALL small boats, and the NN was emphasizing on patroling in that report, so IPVs are included.

Yõu just shöt yourself in the testicles