₦airaland Forum

gottfried21:
The Brazilians are being rather "friendly" these days...They don't wan't the Chinese to take their places Talks are being held for the Sale of Avibras Astros II MLRS and they are also imposing their IVECO Guarani on us(Either to jointly manufacture it at WMF or to sell some units to us)like the Agrale Marrua...In all honesty I prefer the Brazilians to the Chinese

Tinfoil:
There is a video out there of the El Adde attack on the Kenyan AMISOM contingent, In it you see that they kill over 100 KDF soldiers and capture about the same number of prisoners, they execute and behead some, they do not take any vehicles instead they destroy them and proceed on foot,... What I am surprised at is that the attack was apparently conducted by only a handful of militants. The KDF troops seem to NOT be properly equipped. They take their time ransacking the camp, there are no airstrikes.

Here are some screenshots

denisfidha:
First batch of police APC's arrive in Kenya, taken to GSU HQ (can someone tell me what make they are?)

africaken:
i just wish they had 12.7mm HMG but considering how b@#ch some in the media are claiming its the militarization of the police due to the 2017 election.i have no problem with what they got

Henry240:
7.62mm MG is appropriate for the police, it is your army that needs to do away with mounting 7.62mm on their MRAPs and APCs.

agaugust:
Notice all those NAF pilots are so young like aged 21 to 28 years, a NAF officer told me that at age 28 years old, many NAF pilots already have 5 years combat experience and that the new NAF JF-17 Thunder pilots team will include a young team of elite pilots called THE TIGERS, he refused to gives any names and say how many are these elite TIGERS. Who are these secret pilots and what makes them superior to older pilots who have flown Alpha jets for 15 years ?

africaken:
i just love the fear a 12.7mm puts on the enemy.but i have always wondered why we mount a FN MAG 7.62 NATO on our PUMA M26-15 MRAP's

africaken:
i just wish they had 12.7mm HMG but considering how b@#ch some in the media are claiming its the militarization of the police due to the 2017 election.i have no problem with what they acquired
the link https://www.facebook.com/myuhurukenyatta/posts/1218279124867305

Patchesagain:
Higher rate of fire is better in close quarters.

But I know what you are saying, and the conduct of veterans supports your sentiments.

Pic 1 related, Koevoet stole a 20mm Cannon from an SAAF Vampire bomber and attached it to an MRAP... Africas first MRAP to IFV conversion?

Pic 2, a 12.5 and 30cal combo... which is the optimum set-up IMO

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmzJn8uGUs4

africaken:
this is the kind of environment we are engaging alshabaab in lamu. with thick vegetation

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmzJn8uGUs4

ViceAdmiral:
That makes two of us....its about time the MLRS we have in service are retired to the Museum ...I don't see us getting the IVECO Guarani though not with the current 'financial belt tightening'...but either way i prefer the Brazilians any day of the year ....Have u gotten wind of any planned purchases for the armed forces....any news on the MK111

agaugust:
denisfhida, africaken, gottfried and any other commentor here that has contact with military leaders of AU, ANISOM, please pass this message to them in a humble and patriotic Pan-African spirit.

➡ ANISOM will find it hard to defeat El-Shabbab unless it can cut off the insurgents supply chain of weapons and ammunitions, fuel, food and medicines. They will keep on rearming and recruiting to replace attrition loses. UN used to logistics cut off tactics to defeat M23 in Congo DRC, by the time FIB troops arrived to fight, M23 was already dried up of supplies and 70% dead............

Patchesagain:
So it turns out Egypt got their KA 50/52's for use on their new Mistral LHD...

Also... I thought Kenya bought them?

africaken:
i just love the fear a 12.7mm puts on the enemy.but i have always wondered why we mount a FN MAG 7.62 NATO on our PUMA M26-15 MRAP's

agaugust:
denisfhida, africaken, gottfried and any other commentor here that has contact with military leaders of AU, ANISOM, please pass this message to them in a humble and patriotic Pan-African spirit.

➡ ANISOM will find it hard to defeat El-Shabbab unless it can cut off the insurgents supply chain of weapons and ammunitions, fuel, food and medicines. They will keep on rearming and recruiting to replace attrition loses. UN used to logistics cut off tactics to defeat M23 in Congo DRC, by the time FIB troops arrived to fight, M23 was already dried up of supplies and 70% dead.

El-Shabab has too much access to the ocean on the east and that is the only possible source of their supplies, Ethiopia and Eritrea already land locked them from the west. ANISOM will need the multinational anti-piracy force in the gulf of Aden to use hundreds of IPVs to cut of sea supply routes that replenish El-Shabbab with materials for war.

Alternative is land and air based shoreline complete blockade of the entire Somali coastline.


➡ ANISOM needs at least a 5,000 man special forces brigade trained for anti Islamic-terrorism by expert trainers with right and modern training doctrine and training facilities. Backed up with modern light infantry weapons including light vehicle mobile long range spy/observation hardware and long range man portable infantry night vision equipment. Add high calibre light infantry firepower weapons. The brigade can deploy as half battalion sizes in 15 locations all over Somalia, very mobile strike and move on force, 'CONVENTIONAL ARMY GUERRILLAS'.

➡ ANISOM needs face to face experience sharing with Algeria and Nigeria on fighting Islamic terrorism on land and from the air. Sri Lanka can advice on how to deal with the sea borne supply routes.

➡ ANISOM needs the art of battle field craft, base or FOB defence tactics, they must go back to the basics on that and stop surprise attacks on bases especially night attacks on FOBs that are far from reinforcements.

➡ ANISOM must step up firepower on its tactical or light combat vehicles, main armament should be 14.5mm x 1 and 23mm x 1 single barrel guns of Soviet era available so cheap in Russia and other ex-Soviet states. Add 40mm automatic grenade launchers. Then go get the new M3 Carl Gustav 1.7 km range 'anti-terrorist' man portable recoilless LAW that is cheap and affordable in large numbers, every 80 man big size platoon should have one launcher.

➡ ANISOM needs two dozens of light Scout armed helicopters like the cheap Gazelle specially dedicsted for the SF brigade of 5,000 men and maybe another two dozens for regular infantry too.

➡ ANISOM should ask Nigeria and Algeria to deploy permanently to ANISOM, a battle tested colonel or general rank each, who have spent at least 5 years in their own countries' wars on Islamic terrorism, as special advisers and observers under ANISOM commander in chief. Africans need to pull all resources and skills together to win this war.

➡ ANISOM should use any 'idle' troops trainers to train more and more Somalian army infantry. Then the ANISOM's 5,000 newly trained anti-terrorism special forces brigade should include 1,000 of the best current Somalian infantry men, loyal, tested, trusted, not moles sympathetic to El Shabbab.


20,000 troops fighting El-Shabbab for so many years is too long a war and a drain on AU resources. We gotta win this war 2016-2017, or at least degrade El-Shabbab to current Boko Haram level of technical military 'fall back position'.

My little contribution to ANISOM efforts and service.

ALGERIAN SPECIAL FORCES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg3fmQ4aisI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VCjkAS-hlI

gottfried21:
Indeed for sure we're in the process of Ordering Chinese MBT3000(Not sure how many units)
Dornier Do-28 for Maritime Surveillance
Also expressed Interest in Barosso Class Corvette(Again the Brazilians)
Oryx Helicopter(X2 for use by the President and high ranking officials) and then a much larger order later on this year
And we're definitely replacing our F-7's(But it's still between the Gripen and the J-10)
And that's pretty much it...
20 MK3 units on the assembly line at MK3(Not sure they're for us though)

Henry240:
Basic Nigerian MRAPs carry 2x 12.7mm.

LAVs like the Igirigi and Otokar Cobra carry 1x 12.7mm

Panhard VBL carries 1x 50 cal

Modified LAVs carry 2x 23mm

Modified Pick-up trucks used by Nigerian S.F, not the MSF carry 14.5mm

S.F ATVs carry GPMGs with big sided drum mags



....... Boko-Haram has taught the Nigerian military valuable lessons. Superior firepower wins wars!

denisfidha:
Read about Operation Indian Ocean in which alshabaab lost control of all all access to the Indian ocean http://amisom-au.org/2014/10/joint-security-update-on-operation-indian-ocean-by-somali-government-and-amisom/

Henry240:
I really don't know the sort of magic those Egyptians are pulling, I wonder how they are able to afford all this purchases.
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agaugust:
denisfhida, africaken, gottfried and any other commentor here that has contact with military leaders of AU, ANISOM, please pass this message to them in a humble and patriotic Pan-African spirit.

➡ ANISOM will find it hard to defeat El-Shabbab unless it can cut off the insurgents supply chain of weapons and ammunitions, fuel, food and medicines. They will keep on rearming and recruiting to replace attrition loses. UN used this logistics cut off tactics to defeat M23 in Congo DRC, by the time FIB troops arrived to fight, M23 was already dried up of supplies and 80% dead.

El-Shabab has too much access to the ocean on the east and that is the only possible source of their supplies, Ethiopia and Eritrea already land locked them from the west. ANISOM will need the multinational anti-piracy force in the gulf of Aden to hundred IPVs to cut of sea supply routes that replenish El-Shabbab with materials for war.

Alternative is land and air based shoreline complete blockade of the entire Somali coastline.


➡ ANISOM needs at least a 5,000 man special forces brigade trained for anti Islamic-terrorism by expert trainers with right and modern training doctrine and training facilities. Backed up with modern light infantry weapons including light vehicle mobile long range spy/observation hardware and long range man portable infantry night vision equipment. Add high calibre light infantry firepower weapons. The brigade can deploy as half battalion sizes in 15 locations all over Somalia, very mobile strike and move on force, 'CONVENTIONAL ARMY GUERRILLAS'.

➡ ANISOM needs face to face experience sharing with Algeria and Nigeria on fighting Islamic terrorism on land and from the air. Sri Lanka can advice on how to deal with the sea borne supply routes.

➡ ANISOM needs the art of battle field craft, base or FOB defence tactics, they must go back to the basics on that and stop surprise attacks on bases especially night attacks on FOBs that are far from reinforcements.

➡ ANISOM must step up firepower on its tactical or light combat vehicles, main armament should be 14.5mm x 1 and 23mm x 1 single barrel guns of Soviet era available so cheap in Russia and other ex-Soviet states. Add 40mm automatic grenade launchers. Then go get the new M3 Carl Gustav 1.7 km range 'anti-terrorist' man portable recoilless LAW that is cheap and affordable in large numbers, every 80 man big size platoon should have one launcher.

➡ ANISOM needs two dozens of light Scout armed helicopters like the cheap Gazelle specially dedicated for the SF brigade of 5,000 men and maybe another two dozens for regular infantry too. Cheap and readily available air mobility for small strike units.

➡ ANISOM should ask Nigeria and Algeria to deploy permanently to ANISOM, a battle tested colonel or general rank each, who have spent at least 5 years in their own countries' wars on Islamic terrorism, as special advisers and observers under ANISOM commander in chief. Africans need to pull all resources and skills together to win this war.

➡ ANISOM should use any 'idle' troops trainers to train more and more Somalian army infantry. Then the ANISOM's 5,000 newly trained anti-terrorism special forces brigade should include 1,000 of the best current Somalian infantry men, loyal, tested, trusted, not moles sympathetic to El Shabbab.


20,000 troops fighting El-Shabbab for so many years is too long a war and a drain on AU resources. We gotta win this war 2016-2017, or at least degrade El-Shabbab to current Boko Haram level of technical military 'fall back position'.

My little contribution to ANISOM efforts and service.

ALGERIAN SPECIAL FORCES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg3fmQ4aisI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VCjkAS-hlI

gottfried21:
Indeed for sure we're in the process of Ordering Chinese MBT3000(Not sure how many units)
Dornier Do-28 for Maritime Surveillance
Also expressed Interest in Barosso Class Corvette(Again the Brazilians)
Oryx Helicopter(X2 for use by the President and high ranking officials) and then a much larger order later on this year
And we're definitely replacing our F-7's(But it's still between the Gripen and the J-10)
And that's pretty much it...
20 MK3 units on the assembly line at MK3(Not sure they're for us though)

Patchesagain:
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Patchesagain:
MBT3000 is an exellent platform... it caused the Russians to freak out and order a mass upgrade of their T90's to a new standard of T90AM

Where are you getting Oryx from?

ViceAdmiral:
I think the only deal that will probably survive the economic woes is the MK111....we can't afford(and probably have no skills to operate) other listed items especially the Gripen or Barroso class corvette

By the way which unit is responsible for COIN in the police the Special Field Force or Special Reserve Force?