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Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by Nobody: 1:32pm On Feb 18, 2016
tutorng:
Apt illustration!

This is the layman's explanation of all these economy downturn and oil subsidy jargons making the rounds these past years. Every one should understand this.
The solution to Nigeria's problem is having our own refineries to process our crude and cut costs
You are very correct. It is the layman's understanding of the state of affairs of the country. The basic problem with our leaders is short sightedness. They tend to forget the importance of strategy and planning.

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Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by tomdon(m): 1:32pm On Feb 18, 2016
kilokeys:
He used 30 naira bullet to kill that animal he sold for 1000 naira..
Thats a better profit margin undecided

And u didn't consider other condiments she used, the staff she has to pay, cooking fuel, shop rent, taxes and other miscellaneous... Most importantly, nothing is better than beer and peppersoup.. U can't quantify fun in terms of cash my bro..


But we get the message


why don't the hunter employ his folks, and pay them
can't he buy the condiments himself
where's the fun nonsense coming from? it doesn't relate to the illustration
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by Boyooosa(m): 1:33pm On Feb 18, 2016
kilokeys:
He used 30 naira bullet to kill that animal he sold for 1000 naira..
Thats a better profit margin undecided

And u didn't consider other condiments she used, the staff she has to pay, cooking fuel, shop rent, taxes and other miscellaneous... Most importantly, nothing is better than beer and peppersoup.. U can't quantify fun in terms of cash my bro..


But we get the message
Nice comment bro. But u for use 2nd page na, make the op enjoy followership small grin
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by Nobody: 1:34pm On Feb 18, 2016
Baawaa:
Fact, though it sound childish
Childish? Really? Pray for comprehension undecided undecided undecided

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Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by LordAdam: 1:39pm On Feb 18, 2016
tonyfrenzy:


So it should continue to be like that?

We should pray for this government to continue the mission of reducing corruption (...you still have to settle customs, pay exorbitant double or triple taxes...)to a bearable extent, not just to accept the fact that it exists in every corner of Naija and continue to perpetuate it. smh.

Read where I said "We need to change how the society operates. If not, things will remain the same."

I applaud the anti-corruption fight. Still, it is only addressing a symptom, not a problem. Which is why the effects are slow and there is much opposition to it. Look at the #BudgetofYams/#Budgetgate. To evade the anti-corruption fight, all you have to do is become an APC member.

Tomorrow, if another party comes into power, those in previous PDP and APC governments that stole will switch parties to the party in power and their slates will be wiped clean. It is vicious circle, where the money looted by a few individuals are recovered and looted again by a few individuals.

The phantom recovered looted funds that PMB and Adeosun are hiding from the public were meant to fund this budget where Aso Rock pays rent and building a website is meant to gulp more than 700 million naira.

Politicians can always float new parties and the wealthy can always redirect their black money to fund these new parties. In the end, the new party demonizes the old party and reward the same wealthy cabal with inflated budgets, contracts, and initiatives.

Who loses and who gains? Nothing changes!

-Lord
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by zurine(f): 1:39pm On Feb 18, 2016
hmm
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by pacino26(m): 1:43pm On Feb 18, 2016
samx4real:






If we start from somewhere we can make it!

Yea true, but the cost of change. Especially proactive planning can be very expensive.

Case study;

I hail from one of the privileged towns in Enugu where a thing man can make two million selling a plot or less with more property lying in waste. Since August 2015 after series of talks before then I had to retire early from my active job to organise and set up a youth progressive. It is still a work in progress, months down the line I am still dealing with elections and inauguration. I have a youth empowerment scheme in place projected at having 30persons trained in six months with more on various start up businesses. From experience it had not been easy implementing this change but then in ten yrs time I'll have an average of 30 independent millionaires ages within 40yrs. That's planning and not waiting till they all exhaust their properties.

Nigeria as a country politically have been left to bureaucrats and ignorant autocrats the real technocrats are sidelined in policy making and decision taking so the events of today represents a culmination of all past errors.

I'll wake up the youths someday.
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by eROCK247(m): 1:43pm On Feb 18, 2016
No one will sell an antelope for 10,000 in this country o! But I get your drift. Our people have this mentality of "politics=looting". And there seems to be no need for a long term investment, no one wants to build a refinery and watch his successor take d glory. Naija's problem is quite complicated.
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by 93RD(m): 1:43pm On Feb 18, 2016
To all of you trying so hard to oppose the OP just to make a point, i think you guys really don't get the point.... THE HUNTER COULD HAVE SAVED MORE MONEY, AND STILL ENJOY MORE OF THE PEPPER SOUP HAD HE PREPARED IT HIMSELF... that's all..
In this case, the hunter is Nigeria, and the business woman is the people we take our crude to. Someone mentioned that the hunter made more profit (no offence but you need to read more, do an enrollment in business management, Economics, Mathematics) except you are just joking around. grin grin grin

*considering the fact that the woman spent 1000 naira buying the game, and sold for far more than what she paid for even if she paid her workers(lets assume she has some handful) she has at least made a profit and increased her own economy , and her workers has also benefitted. Now if the hunter had done it himself, he would have bought spices from people around him(friends, family, etc), employed his friends or children to work with him, ate more and also make a little profit by selling a part of it to outsiders. Looking at the brighter side, he would have enriched his close relations while adding a few more penny to his pocket.
If Nigeria had built some more refineries in addition to the existing ones, who will be employed and benefitted if not more Nigerians? If it is done, you will successfully distribute the wealth amongst Nigerians and still have more for the country while selling the remnant to outsiders. That way you have succeeded in growing the economy while ending scarcity.
And lastly like i always tell my friends, the problem with Nigeria is none other than our Full time Politicians who besides getting rich at the expense of the ordinary citizens, will continue to make things hard by creating policies that will only continue to put food on their table.

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Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by tosyne2much(m): 1:43pm On Feb 18, 2016
tutorng:


i dont think its childish bro

Sometimes we have to use the simplest illustrations to explain complex concepts
Seconded ! cool
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by arsenal33: 1:48pm On Feb 18, 2016
Baawaa:
Fact, though it sound childish
That is how cynics and critics like you can understand it
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by moshino(m): 1:48pm On Feb 18, 2016
NwaAdazi:
Ebele Ogbuanu the Hunter goes into the bush, kills a very big Antelope and sells it to Mama Ngozi who sells peppersoup. He sold the game for N1,000. He told mama Ngozi to make sure the peppersoup is well made because he is coming along with his friends in the evening to enjoy themselves. When they got there that evening, they ordered for plates of peppersoup. Ebele bought the head for N500, he bought the four legs for four of his friends at N500 each, another person ate the intestines as assorted, he paid N500 for it, three other people also ate N500 worth of peppersoup each. The hunter ended up spending N4,500 to buy what he sold to Mama Ngozi for N1,000. Mama Ngozi made a cool N3,500 profit just by cooking (processing) the meat and selling it back to where she bought it from. That is 350% profit and yet she still had excess remaining to sell to other customers. So who is wise and who is foolish here?
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Your analysis is soooo lame and ignorant.

What is the cost of Mama Ngozi's time to prepare the raw meat into delicious peppersoup, what is the cost of the ingredients, what is the cost of her renting her restaurant/buka, what is her labour cost, what is the opportunity cost of her time and efforts? Or did the raw animal killed by the hunter magically turn into delicious peppersoup in thin air?
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by Folksyharry(m): 2:03pm On Feb 18, 2016
pacino26:
Spot on. If you get to they office off the DPR to initiate process to set up a refinery they'd give you the paper criteria but to get approval is the real issue. My time in 2013 working seriously on setting up a refinery with some patrons made me realise that Nigeria isn't ready for the word 'PROGRESS'

We keep fooling ourselves, you don't have power CCGP will need to be imported asking with all accessories, steel for interconnecting piping needs to be imported, to make roads heavy earth moving equipment needs to be imported. To set Nigeria on the path of industrialization will take another ten yrs.

As far as I am concerned, there's no proactive plan in place.

the bolded part is really painful and annoying. See a news about IPMAN officials wanting to build refineries but the FG is yet to give the right policies to help them start.

https://www.nairaland.com/2939494/govts-lack-policy-direction-stalls
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by abbey621(m): 2:06pm On Feb 18, 2016
moshino:


Your analysis is soooo lame and ignorant.

What is the cost of Mama Ngozi's time to prepare the raw meat into delicious peppersoup, what is the cost of the ingredients, what is the cost of her renting her restaurant/buka, what is her labour cost, what is the opportunity cost of her time and efforts? Or did the raw animal killed by the hunter magically turn into delicious peppersoup in thin air?

Stop calling people names and see the bigger picture. Even if mama Ngozi made just 2500 it is still a 150% profit meaning it's still a bad deal. I don't know why we love sentiments and technicalities in this country, we are so blind to simplicity and saying the truth that we try to convince ourselves we are some type of 'know it all'! Nigeria as a whole is broke but we have more wealthy folks than the whole of Africa combined.

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Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by pacino26(m): 2:14pm On Feb 18, 2016
moshino:


Your analysis is soooo lame and ignorant.

What is the cost of Mama Ngozi's time to prepare the raw meat into delicious peppersoup, what is the cost of the ingredients, what is the cost of her renting her restaurant/buka, what is her labour cost, what is the opportunity cost of her time and efforts? Or did the raw animal killed by the hunter magically turn into delicious peppersoup in thin air?

In the analysis as given by the Op and seconded by your swift irrational criticism we can deduce logically that mama Ngozi got a lot going for her; shop, workers, equipment etc.

In translation we can have our youths employed, have our refineries working, other business tied to crude oil flourishing and above all function all yr round.

Mama Ngozi has a job and feeds her family from it. That is the msg. Her costs of production as translated to our economy represents indirect opportunities tied to one major activity; hunting or crude oil exploitation.

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Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by DeRay98(m): 2:17pm On Feb 18, 2016
[quote author=kilokeys post=43027800]He used 30 naira bullet to kill that animal he sold for 1000 naira..
Thats a better profit margin undecided

And u didn't consider other condiments she used, the staff she has to pay, cooking fuel, shop rent, taxes and other miscellaneous... Most importantly, nothing is better than beer and peppersoup.. U can't quantify fun in terms of cash my bro..


But we If digress


If postulate on the hunters' work from the story, you forgot to calculate the nos of hours the hunter walked in forest, the risk of walking in the midst of wild animals where he could easily have become the hunted. if he hunted at night, he used night hunting light which cost him some money buy, recharge and maintain. Then profit margin drops.
Of course, this is not the morale of the story just a digression.
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by Nobody: 2:24pm On Feb 18, 2016
LordAdam:


Read where I said "We need to change how the society operates. If not, things will remain the same."

I applaud the anti-corruption fight. Still, it is only addressing a symptom, not a problem. Which is why the effects are slow and there is much opposition to it. Look at the #BudgetofYams/#Budgetgate. To evade the anti-corruption fight, all you have to do is become an APC member.

Tomorrow, if another party comes into power, those in previous PDP and APC governments that stole will switch parties to the party in power and their slates will be wiped clean. It is vicious circle, where the money looted by a few individuals are recovered and looted again by a few individuals.

The phantom recovered looted funds that PMB and Adeosun are hiding from the public were meant to fund this budget where Aso Rock pays rent and building a website is meant to gulp more than 700 million naira.

Politicians can always float new parties and the wealthy can always redirect their black money to fund these new parties. In the end, the new party demonizes the old party and reward the same wealthy cabal with inflated budgets, contracts, and initiatives.

Who loses and who gains? Nothing changes!

-Lord

Then we need God.
We hope for the BEST
while expecting the WORST.
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by OpinionCounts(m): 2:26pm On Feb 18, 2016
Ok guys, to establish an undisputable fact, if the hunter and the lady represent the presidents of two different countries and the bush meat is the hunters natural resource while the service skill is the ladies natural resource, with the way they are both managing their natural resource,on the long run which country do u think will flourish and develop more effeciently (consider financially, skill development, job opportuinity, security, food availability etc) than the other, and which country will u prefer to be in. Click Like for the ladies country and share for the hunters country.
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by Danpotter(m): 2:28pm On Feb 18, 2016
That's y those British menace don't want Nigeria splitted, because biafrans are so technical to those thrash themselves. But perceived greed and power is keeping it behind
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by LordAdam: 2:32pm On Feb 18, 2016
tonyfrenzy:


Then we need God.
We hope for the BEST
while expecting the WORST.

We don't need God. We need to make tough decisions, starting with adopting true federalism.

God did not help Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, UAE (Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah...), Saudi Arabia, Qatar, China, India, Brazil, Mexico, to become the heavyweights that they are today with mega-performing economies.

As at 1970, Nigeria was better than most of those countries I mentioned. If we cannot afford to seize our future for ourselves then we deserve all that is happening to us and more bad news.

-Lord
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by Akpan107(m): 2:37pm On Feb 18, 2016
kilokeys:
He used 30 naira bullet to kill that animal he sold for 1000 naira..
Thats a better profit margin undecided

And u didn't consider other condiments she used, the staff she has to pay, cooking fuel, shop rent, taxes and other miscellaneous... Most importantly, nothing is better than beer and peppersoup.. U can't quantify fun in terms of cash my bro..


But we get the message
lovely point...
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by Nobody: 2:41pm On Feb 18, 2016
LordAdam:


We don't need God. We need to make tough decisions, starting with adopting true federalism.

God did not help Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, UAE (Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah...), Saudi Arabia, Qatar, China, India, Brazil, Mexico, to become the heavyweights that they are today with mega-performing economies.

As at 1970, Nigeria was better than most of those countries I mentioned. If we cannot afford to seize our future for ourselves then we deserve all that is happening to us and more bad news.

-Lord

Then you are confused bro!!!!!!!!
What is the punitive measures for corrupt public office holders in most
of the countries you listed? And who will enforce the rules?

If you think we need to start a war against the govt (revolution), this
country is super-fragmented along ethnic divides that it really can not
work effectively. Plus that is the last option, and war is not helping
any nation of the world.

I said we needed to start by curbing corruption you countered it.

You talk of true federalism, as if Nigeria is not practizing Federalism
in a horrible way, largely sabotaged by corrupt leaders.

You said every leader Nigeria has are all the same, shielding bad
leaders and protecting worse leaders because of party affiliation.

So how does a country like Nigeria start practizing sustainable
Federalism with the crop of leaders we have without first breaking
the chains of evil that they have formed?
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by kenny905(m): 2:45pm On Feb 18, 2016
tutorng:
Apt illustration!

This is the layman's explanation of all these economy downturn and oil subsidy jargons making the rounds these past years. Every one should understand this.
The solution to Nigeria's problem is having our own refineries to process our crude and cut costs
The only reason y Nigeria is broke is because we have been depending solely on crude oil, When we realize that we have abundant resources both human and natural that can more than sustain Nigeria the better it's gonna be
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by Philadelphia: 2:46pm On Feb 18, 2016
Ok

Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by churchmind: 2:46pm On Feb 18, 2016
Baawaa:
Fact, though it sound childish
nobody needs ur contribution cos u sound so daft n empty.lowlife.
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by LordAdam: 2:47pm On Feb 18, 2016
tonyfrenzy:


Then you are confused bro!!!!!!!!

I said we needed to start by curbing corruption you countered it.

You talk of true federalism, as if Nigeria is not practizing Federalism
in a horrible way, largely sabotaged by corrupt leaders.

You said every leader Nigeria has are all the same, shielding bad
leaders and protecting worse leaders because of party affiliation.

So how does a country like Nigeria start practizing sustainable
Federalism with the crop of leaders we have without first breaking
the chains of evil that they have formed?

TRUE FEDERALISM!

If you want to learn more, refer to the consensus of the National Confab under GEJ.

Nigeria needs Regional Governments with less powers at the center (FG). Like it was before the civil war.

Every well-meaning Nigerian gathered and adopted it, only hell knows why PMB and APC discredited it.

-Lord
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by moshino(m): 2:51pm On Feb 18, 2016
pacino26:


In the analysis as given by the Op and seconded by your swift irrational criticism we can deduce logically that mama Ngozi got a lot going for her; shop, workers, equipment etc.

In translation we can have our youths employed, have our refineries working, other business tied to crude oil flourishing and above all function all yr round.

Mama Ngozi has a job and feeds her family from it. That is the msg. Her costs of production as translated to our economy represents indirect opportunities tied to one major activity; hunting or crude oil exploitation.


I have no idea what you're rambling about. But the OP was attempting an analysis using deductive reasoning, but the premise of the OP's analysis is flawed, and not comprehensive. Hence, OP's entire thesis becomes questionable. It's like getting an answer right, without correctly showing how you arrived at the answer. The OP could have just summarized what he/she was trying to say, without using pedestrian analysis.
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by Nobody: 2:54pm On Feb 18, 2016
LordAdam:


TRUE FEDERALISM!

If you want to learn more, refer to the consensus of the National Confab under GEJ.

Nigeria needs Regional Governments with less powers at the center (FG). Like it was before the civil war.

Every well-meaning Nigerian gathered and adopted it, only hell knows why PMB and APC discredited it.

-Lord

Now I understand your point.
It would be better but we still have those guys hovering above us too.
Every region would have gone back to the drawing board or even to
out-compete one another with innovations and development.
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by LordAdam: 3:00pm On Feb 18, 2016
tonyfrenzy:


Now I understand your point.
It would be better but we still have those guys hovering above us too.
Every region would have gone back to the drawing board or even to
out-compete one another with innovations and development.

The confab had representatives from all regions including the North and South West.

Those who do not want it to be implemented are the real enemies of Nigeria, not specifically a region.

Maintaining this system is an expensive continuous mistake. The fact is most Nigerians do not know this, that is why there is no agitation yet.

-Lord
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by LilTroy: 3:01pm On Feb 18, 2016
There are two things dat can't exist i dis world; a pious Nigerian president & a totally satisfied woman...
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by greenmonk: 3:18pm On Feb 18, 2016
omohayek:


Yes, I add nothing to the economy by selling software that people are actually willing to pay for in Europe and North America. It's sub-literate types like you who are the real wings of the Nigerian economy! tongue
I am really happy to know u are really educated & had software to sell globally but that does not negate the fact that you should appreciate the contribution of others (the hunter). The palmwine tapper, the software developer and the hardware developers all contribute to build any economy.
When any nation thinks they can make omellette without breaking any egg is the situation we found ourselves right now. We cannot jump any rung of the ladder of technology and hope to succeed, all aspects of technological development must be rocognised and duely compensated for their contribution 4 us to advance.
Re: (pic) See Why Nigeria Is Broke by habsydiamond(m): 3:32pm On Feb 18, 2016
All I can see here is that, some people are behind this importation of crude oil products. The profit they are making from this dealings is much that they dont want our refineries to be repaired. Not until we flush corruption they will keep making profit from the mineral resources that belongs to us all.

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