agaugust:


Many things have changed...


South African Valour warships recently got officially downgraded by your own navy from frigates to mere patrol corvettes.....they are now graded down as VALOUR PATROL CORVETTES....no more frigates technically
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jln115:


Dude can you read?? The test where the makopa missed the target was back in 2011.

Denel demonstration to potential buyers of Rooivalk firing Mokopa missile and missing target this month February 2016 just about two weeks ago is what you call 2011 test? Are you mäd ? You cräzy inside ya white head ?

kizfaz:
can someone please ask this DAFT upko1 what his blood is useful for..... Of what relevance are yhu to Nigeria....

I wanted to ask him what he himself Ukpo1 has done or invented for Nigeria since he says Nigeria built nothing.....what has he himself and his entire family invented for Nigeria? Has he built a Gulma drone or his family built a bomb disposal robot?

I chose not to the talk to him because I realized the guy is due for admission at Aro mental hospital in Abeokuta, Governor Amosu recently provided new vacant beds there in the admission ward.

Msauza:


Henry, give me one ATGM in the whole universe that can engage the target at 8Km? Mokopa has done it successfully the first time and the second time using Gripen laser beams it narrowly missed the target. Now give us only one ATGM that can achieve that or else you will as well be reduced to a loser like your fellow agaugust.

Hellfire ATGM has been hitting target at 8 km for almost 20 years till now. Mokopa is a 100% failure, even saaengine is so ashamed he now compares Mokopa to loaf of bread in his excuses.

Apache + Hellfire killing tanks at 8 km with no stress !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iveSPDw7ONc

Msauza:



Bwahahaha… Why dont you talk about the first launched missile that made the successful engagement with the use of ground laser beams? You go around cherry picking and beating about the bush knowing well that mokopa made a succeasful hit the first time. Lets talk about it.

There is NO single record anywhere of Mokopa hitting target at 8 km in its history from lab test to marketing demo.

Your Lady Mokopa beautiful bride suddenly reached menopause during her wedding ceremony in front of her bridegroom Denel and invited wedding guests from Nigeria, Egypt, Poland
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agaugust:


Denel demonstration to potential buyers of Rooivalk firing Mokopa missile and missing target this month February 2016 just about two weeks ago is what you call 2011 test? Are you mäd ? You cräzy inside ya white head ?

You obviously can't read. If you could you would've seen that the test where the makopa missed the target was back in 2011 with a telemetry missile.

agaugust:


I wanted to ask him what he himself Ukpo1 has done or invented for Nigeria since he says Nigeria built nothing.....what has he himself and his entire family invented for Nigeria? Has he built a Gulma drone or his family built a bomb disposal robot?

I chose not to the talk to him because I realized the guy is due for admission at Aro mental hospital in Abeokuta, Governor Amosu recently provided new vacant beds there in the admission ward.

You should have given us this information before now cause people like this need to occupy the vacant beds.

agaugust:


I wanted to ask him what he himself Ukpo1 has done or invented for Nigeria since he says Nigeria built nothing.....what has he himself and his entire family invented for Nigeria? Has he built a Gulma drone or his family built a bomb disposal robot?

I chose not to the talk to him because I realized the guy is due for admission at Aro mental hospital in Abeokuta, Governor Amosu recently provided new vacant beds there in the admission ward.

Baba laugh do kill me tire here oooh........
Make una just free d guy.

agaugust:


There is NO single record anywhere of Mokopa hitting target at 8 km in its history from lab test to marketing demo.

Your Lady Mokopa beautiful bride suddenly reached menopause during her wedding ceremony in front of her bridegroom Denel and invited wedding guests from Nigeria, Egypt, Poland
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agaugust:


I wanted to ask him what he himself Ukpo1 has done or invented for Nigeria since he says Nigeria built nothing.....what has he himself and his entire family invented for Nigeria? Has he built a Gulma drone or his family built a bomb disposal robot?

I chose not to the talk to him because I realized the guy is due for admission at Aro mental hospital in Abeokuta, Governor Amosu recently provided new vacant beds there in the admission ward.

Lol
Atleast have the decency to quote instead of hiding behind another comment.
I also realize you are passing through a mid life crisis, you couldn't become a real soilder, so you are spending the rest of your life on military related topics thinking just maybe you can convince yourself into believing you are one.
No one from your generation can even figure out how to make an unguided rocket sand model.
Yet you come online to bash those who have accomplished that and beyond.
Pray for yourself
Pray for your military
Pray more especially that it's budget doesn't end up in Dubai

Why is the military still wearing mismatched camouflage up till now??
Why are you flying alpha jets
Why are you buying only three jf17
Why are you doing minor boat works in 2016

Oh and by the way I hear the Reva mrap Is performing exceedingly well.

The bad educational system in Nigeria is also contributing to this.
When you don't do practical projects in tertiary institutions how would you appreciate one.

Going through the thread I see a pattern, a pattern where touts are screaming and jumping all over the place evading any attempt at logical discussions and quick to haul insults while peddling lies and falsehood.
More budgetary allocation has to go into education in this country, so we can realize a better Nigeria.

It's a miracle these africans are able to maintain their cool while replying some of your comments.

@AUGUSTUS... There are two main ways of getting ahead. Do everything you can to improve your own situation or try and cut others down to come out with a stronger competitive advantage. The second way is obviously the loser way to get ahead. who employs this method like @AUGUSTUS, will likely always be dissatisfied with what they have because they will be constantly envious of others. Everybody I’ve met who takes the second route are perpetual underperformers.

agaugust:


There is NO single record anywhere of Mokopa hitting target at 8 km in its history from lab test to marketing demo.

Your Lady Mokopa beautiful bride suddenly reached menopause during her wedding ceremony in front of her bridegroom Denel and invited wedding guests from Nigeria, Egypt, Poland
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Why are you so dishonest? Mokopa hit the target the first time from ground laser beam. Let's talk about it.

agaugust:


There is no visible Apache helicopter in your above video.

There is no visible missile launch in same video.

There is no visible target in the video.

There is NO proof that is even an helicopter launching a missile. All we see is a street and smoky explosion on the ground. Could just be a ground to ground mortar or RPG fire by unknown people on the ground.

There is public record where Apache missed an open target in Afghanistan. I guessed you knew about the news since you claimed to be a military analyst who does not have journals.

agaugust:


Hellfire ATGM has been hitting target at 8 km for almost 20 years till now. Mokopa is a 100% failure, even saaengine is so ashamed he now compares Mokopa to loaf of bread in his excuses.

Apache + Hellfire killing tanks at 8 km with no stress !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iveSPDw7ONc

Hell fire is a short range ATGM.

Do you still remember how Apache with its hellfire missed the target and instead hit the humvee?

http://news.sky.com/story/596406/humvee-hit-in-us-apache-missile-blunder



… Hellfire has never done that on its entire history of hitting targets beyond its visual range.
Bwahaha…



http://kabulpress.org/my/spip.php?article89242

agaugust:


I wanted to ask him what he himself Ukpo1 has done or invented for Nigeria since he says Nigeria built nothing.....what has he himself and his entire family invented for Nigeria? Has he built a Gulma drone or his family built a bomb disposal robot?

I chose not to the talk to him because I realized the guy is due for admission at Aro mental hospital in Abeokuta, Governor Amosu recently provided new vacant beds there in the admission ward.

Do you even know what does the word invention mean? It means coming with something that has never existed on the mother earth before. We have had drones and bomb disposal robots before Nigeria manufactured any. I think the person that needs to be admitted at Aro mental hospital is you sir.

AFRICAN AIRBORNE EXERCISE 2004 HELD IN SOUTH AFRICA

AFRICAN AIRBORNE EXERCISE HELD IN SOUTH AFRICA
SEE RESULTS OF THE NIGERIAN DEFENCE FORCE


http://www.aba.mil.za/

SANDF BOMB DISPOSAL MATERIAL

Husky VMMD (Vehicle Mounted Mine Detector) or, as it was previously known, the Chubby system, is part of a mine-removal system developed by DCD-Dorbyl Rolling Stock Division which are based on the East Rand in Gauteng, South Africa.

The system was developed in the 1970s for the South African Defence Force to clear military convoy routes of mines in Namibia and Angola. The VMMD system consists of two Husky vehicles. The first one acts as a Mine Detection Vehicle (MDV). In the past this vehicle was called a Meerkat and wasn't a 4x4. The second Husky in the system tows a set of three Duisendpoots and is known as a towing /mine detection vehicle (T/MDV) The latest version of the Husky, the 2G, has high sensitivity low metal content detectors, ground penetrating radar, powerful air blowers and a robotic arm. This extra equipment has caused the design of Husky to evolve to take a second crew member. The Husky 2G was voted one of the US Army's Top 10 most innovative advances in Army technology

agaugust:


Denel's logic did not advertise that its power thrust will fail before 10 km, they said it has 10 km attack range, and ex-SAAF air force chief called it an 'over the horizon distance missile'. Denel logic does not agree with you.....LOL....Denel logic makes South Africa 'smarter' than Europe in technology....LOL.....pride goes before a fall....LOL...laughing in Zulu.

Meanwhile, Saaengine and THIZA have run away into hiding as Mokopa + Rooivalk + Gripen threefold combination backbone of SAAF, missed easy pre-arranged target in broad daylight .....LOL....laughing in Xhosa & Ndebele....LOL
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Pls list missiles that can engage at that range
Pls list attack helos that can engage at that range

agaugust:

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Nope, we are drawing conclusion on MARKETING DEMONSTRATION TO POTENTIAL BUYERS DONE 14 DAYS AGO that ended up in failure of Rooivalk, Gripen, and Mokopa. 3-in-1 triple failure in one day


UN officer in Congo, most likely bribed with money by Denel marketers, praised Rooivalk for a job done by Mi-35 Hinds that hovers well and has superior firepower over the twice expensive Rooivalk fat turkey.

Mokopa fraudulently advertised as 10 km range, Denel decieved Algeria and exported Mokopa with fake range. Today Mokopa fails and missed target at 8km, sure it will miss target at 6km.

So much for the claim of "South African made defence products are same class as those of Europe....we have the biggest defence industry in Africa, we are top 20 arms exporters in the world....blah blah blah...."

South Africa is exporting fake products with fraudulent claims of false performance capabilities.

I said it before that 10 km range Mokopa will NEVER work, now I am proved right in the eyes of the whole world today !!!!!

Like I have repeatedly stated, let SANDF go test all these their shiny painted and over-rated untested weapons in a real war and let us see their performance, let us count how many targets they will miss per day on the battlefield ![/s]
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lots of words no citations

UN MONUSCO commander praised it - fact
Nigeria wants to buy it - FACT

Deal brah, just deal

agaugust:


[s]Bwahahaa

Sure A-Darter and Umkhonto are having same problem.

New Data for proudly made in South African missiles to avoid missing easy target:

1. Umkhonto SAM on Valour Patrol Corvette = 7.5 km with plenty of prayers
2. Ingwe ATGM on Ratel IFV = 2.5 km with lots of fasting
3. Mokopa ATGM on Rooivalk helicopter = 5 km with extra-extra goodluck, less than 10 metres more certain

South African proudly made weapons prices will soon be offer in the world market on auction at half price anytime from now.....let the auction sales begin[/s]
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Empty and devoid of meaning

Henry240:


[s]Buhahahahahahahahahahahaha.......


Marketing claim = 10km

Performance = can't hit a target at 8km

Reality = most likely won't hit a target at 100 meters[/s]

Algeria disagrees with you

agaugust:


[s]Algeria has wasted it's money on Denel product. Algeria was deceived.

Today Mokopa fails and missed target at 8km, sure it will miss target at 6km.

Mokopa makes South African made weapons a laughing stock in the eyes of the world.

SANDF's claimed equipment combat capabilities are all fake !

END OF STORY ![/s]
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So the Algerian generals are 1diots?

That is what you are saying?

agaugust:


[s]Kornet ATGM

Red Arrow ATGM

Why did Denel claim what it cannot do? Leave other countries missiles aside, the topic is WHY HAS DENEL MADE THIS FRAUDULENT 10 KM RANGE CLAIM FOR 7 YEARS ?

Mokopa missed target at 8 km, not even 10 km....despite being given an easy target pre-arranged and marked by SAAF 'advanced hi tech' Gripen and UN 'acclaimed rebel killer, superior target finder' Rooivalk ? Why miss at 8 km with a 7 year long claim of 10 km capability?

Soweto Fraud On Display Worldwide.[/s]

Kornet max range: 5.5km
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/kornet.htm

Red Arrow max range: 6km
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=842

Your argument is invalid

How does it feel to know that a man sitting in Shanghai, with massive jet-lag, who has just worked 21 of the last 48 hours and has had 4 pints of beer can intellectually out maneuver you with ease?

Henry240:

[s]
Spare us the emotional tale,

The mokopa was advertised at 10km,

The mokopa missed it's target at 8km

The mokopa was tested at a pre-known, pre-defined, static target,

The mokopa missed.


Fraudulent marketing performance busted.[/s]

Makopa was fired using targetting data from a seperate platform

Do you have any evidence that it cannot engage at those ranges using the data from one platform?

No?

Into the trash your statemnts go.

Henry240:


Your(Denel's) claims have proven to be fraudulent. The claims have reduced you to making idiomatic expressions about bread.

When were they proven to be fraudulent?

What has been shown is that your claims about the Rooivalk have been fraudulent - confirmed by your own army

agaugust:


[s]There is no visible Apache helicopter in your above video.

There is no visible missile launch in same video.

There is no visible target in the video.

There is NO proof that is even an helicopter launching a missile. All we see is a street and smoky explosion on the ground. Could just be a ground to ground mortar or RPG fire by unknown people on the ground.
[/s]

Invalid

He posted a source, provide your own to disprove it

No one cares about your opinion

agaugust:


South African military missing easy target with their best weapons is NOT A THREAT to anyone
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Target at 8km is easy?

Which other missiles can engage this "easy" target?

None?

How then is it easy??

agaugust:


[s]Many things have changed...


South African Valour warships recently got officially downgraded by your own navy from frigates to mere patrol corvettes.....they are now graded down as VALOUR PATROL CORVETTES....no more frigates technically[/s]
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Sources from SAN have proven this to be false.

Its a sign of your desperation that you rely on disproven notions to substantiate your arguments.

I am legally drunk, and I am thrashing you.

Think about that.

agaugust:


[s]South Africa TECHNICALLY has no frigates anymore, your navy now calls them VALOUR PATROL CORVETTES.

SAN has only enough full complement of crews (sailing and combat) for ONLY ONE SUBMARINE AT ONE TIME, and you have a sub that will be sunk by NAF Alpha jets, Albatross jets, or guided missile armed dones and NN high speed ocean interceptor vessels while it snorkels gasping for oxygen resupply every 96 hours.

You have ZERO force projection, that is why Indian navy signed many years long term maritime security operation joint venture for South Atlantic ocean with Nigerian navy, thus ignoring South African navy and it's sleep at home inexperienced navy.

These Indian admirals sailed warships past Cape Town to come so far up and show great confidence in Nigerian navy due to our decades of operational track records from 1960-2016 wars, peace keeping, maritime security, including saving Angola in time of trouble inside your own SADC regional backyard.[/s]
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Sources from SAN refer to them as frigates.

Proven 3 days ago.

Pics of multiple subs at sea disprove your second paragrahp

Pic related, we have more force projection than you (para 3 disproven)

Indian navy conducts exercises with us, not you. (All paras now wrecked)

You are an intellectual bug which is squish by mistake... I do not even recognize your presence. Go back to telling us about Boko haram "black magic" at least that was entertaining

agaugust:
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[s]While Rooivalk Helicopter with Mokopa missile fail 100% today....

Apache Helicopter with Hellfire missiles hït targets at 8 km since 20 years ago
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iveSPDw7ONc[/s]

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Why would denel target a target that they know they cannot hit if they are trying to sell something?

Obviously, they have hit that target in the past.

Finally, can the Apache rely on targetting data from other platforms?

Too easy for me brah