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I wonder why our pastors can't tell us the simple Biblical truth. They made everyone belive that Our Lord Jesus Christ will come a second time by appearing in the cloud to rapture the church but the made it clear that He will be born the second time into the world by a woman and will bear a NEW NAME.

Infact, it was Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself who gave Apostle John the revelations 65 years after His glorious ascension into heaven. So, can't preachers tell their members simple truth? Or are they ignorant of those scriptures?

This is a very sensitive matter and its important the church is awaken to the truth before its too late. We must not allow ignorance to hinder us from knowing our God. The Jews till date are waiting for Elijah and Emmanuel when they already came as John and Jesus Christ.

Its time to study our Bible and pray for God to guide us aright because the prosperity minded pastors are more concerned with sowing bountifully and reaping bountifully.

Our Lord Jesus Christ said we should search the Scriptures.

DeCleff:
I wonder why our pastors can't tell us the simple Biblical truth. They made everyone belive that Our Lord Jesus Christ will come a second time by appearing in the cloud to rapture the church but the made it clear that He will be born the second time into the world by a woman and will bear a NEW NAME.

Infact, it was Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself who gave Apostle John the revelations 65 years after His glorious ascension into heaven. So, can't preachers tell their members simple truth? Or are they ignorant of those scriptures?

This is a very sensitive matter and its important the church is awaken to the truth before its too late. We must not allow ignorance to hinder us from knowing our God. The Jews till date are waiting for Elijah and Emmanuel when they already came as John and Jesus Christ.

Its time to study our Bible and pray for God to guide us aright because the prosperity minded pastors are more concerned with sowing bountifully and reaping bountifully.

Our Lord Jesus Christ said we should search the Scriptures.

ahahahaahahha just funny can you please quote it from the bible because am begin to sense islamic manual here?,

jcross19:
...can you please quote it from the bible...

Spot on! It makes sense to simply refer to one or two Bible verses to back your presentation. Without this, sorry buddy, your presentation is null & void and of no effect whatsoever. May the Almighty Father continue to guide you in your work for Him!

mymadam:
Spot on! It makes sense to simply refer to one or two Bible verses to back your presentation. Without this, sorry buddy, your presentation is null & void and of no effect whatsoever. May the Almighty Father continue to guide you in your work for Him!

amen.

jcross19:
ahahahaahahha just funny can you please quote it from the bible because am begin to sense islamic manual here?,

Our Lord Jesus Christ told Apostle John that HE HAS A NEW NAME. Revelations 3:12

Apostle John saw the rebirth of Christ who will RULE ALL NATIONS WITH RODE OF AN IRON Revelations 12:1-5

mymadam:
Spot on! It makes sense to simply refer to one or two Bible verses to back your presentation. Without this, sorry buddy, your presentation is null & void and of no effect whatsoever. May the Almighty Father continue to guide you in your work for Him!

I delibrately avoided adding Bible verse because i felt that its better that way to stir up questions like poster above u did.

Apart from the rebirth of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Almighty Father will also be born to establish His Kingdom on earth in order to hand it over to His Son to rule which will be the fulfilment the request Our Lord Jesus Christ made to the Father in John 17:4-5.

U must also know that the worldly govt/authorities will still be in place when all these will be happening.

I read a novel with HIS second birth as the theme. It was cataclysmic. I don't know how it will go though. What about the people having visions about him coming back without a reference to HIM being born the second time?

Glock9:
I read a novel with HIS second birth as the theme. It was cataclysmic. I don't know how it will go though. What about the people having visions about him coming back without a reference to HIM being born the second time?

Those who saw visions of His second coming without birth actually saw His universal manifestation in heaven after the great tribulations, when the sun becomes dark, when the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of heaven shall be shaken. Matthew 24:29. Then the universal manifestation Matthew 24:30 to judge the world.

How will the powers of heaven be shaken before the universal manifestation?

Revelations 6:12-17 gave more details on how it wil happen. After the great tribulations, the sun will become dark, the stars will fall from heaven AND THE HEAVEN WILL DEPART OR ROLLED TOGETHER LIKE A SCROLL AND EVERY MOUNTAINS AND ISLAND MOVED OUT OF THEIR PLACES.

Then all eyes will see Him sitting on His Throne of Judgement. Then those who did not believed in His second birth will try to hide themselves from Him.

His universal manifestation will to show Himself to the whole world and to execute judgement. But before that He must be born into the world the second to rule and reign over all nations.

DeCleff:
Our Lord Jesus Christ told Apostle John that HE HAS A NEW NAME. Revelations 3:12

Apostle John saw the rebirth of Christ who will RULE ALL NATIONS WITH RODE OF AN IRON Revelations 12:1-5

my brother you can't pass idioms in english language. So those are the verses? Aahahhah.

jcross19:
my brother you can't pass idioms in english language. So those are the verses? Aahahhah.

I see u are an idiomatic professor. Can u then explain to me in plain english what those verses actually meant?

DeCleff:
I see u are an idiomatic professor. Can u then explain to me in plain english what those verses actually meant?

3 vs 12 is talking about a new name written on the saved ones that's simple. And no where its written there that jesus will be rebirth through woman. Rev.12 vs 1 -5 this verses are in figurative words , the woman represent a city and the baby represent a messiah, all that have happened and fulfilled

jcross19:
3 vs 12 is talking about a new name written on the saved ones that's simple. And no where its written there that jesus will be rebirth through woman. Rev.12 vs 1 -5 this verses are in figurative words , the woman represent a city and the baby represent a messiah, all that have happened and fulfilled

He said i will write upon him my NEW NAME. what does it means to u if someone u knew by his name comes to u and i say he/she will give u his/her new name?


The Man child in Rev. 12:1-5 is not referring to the birth of the Saviour but the King of kings and Lord of lord. Read Rev.19:11-16.

Remember that Our Lord Jesus Christ came to save mankind and not to rule. But in His second birth, He is not as a saviour to die but as the King of kings and Lord of lords to rule, reign and execute judgement.

Read Daniel's prophecies in Daniel 2:44 & Daniel 7:9-14. U will understand that the coming of Comforter was actually the coming of the Almighty God to establish His kingdom on earth and enthrone His Son to rule while the worldly govt were still in place.

DeCleff:
He said i will write upon him my NEW NAME. what does it means to u if someone u knew by his name comes to u and i say he/she will give u his/her new name?


The Man child in Rev. 12:1-5 is not referring to the birth of the Saviour but the King of kings and Lord of lord. Read Rev.19:11-16.

Remember that Our Lord Jesus Christ came to save mankind and not to rule. But in His second birth, He is not as a saviour to die but as the King of kings and Lord of lords to rule, reign and execute judgement.

Read Daniel's prophecies in Daniel 2:44 & Daniel 7:9-14. U will understand that the coming of Comforter was actually the coming of the Almighty God to establish His kingdom on earth and enthrone His Son to rule while the worldly govt were still in place.

all those things were in figurative. Is like when they say "star shall from sky" and do you think they are talking about this physical star? No but mighty ones. Is a figuative words.

jcross19:
all those things were in figurative. Is like when they say "star shall from sky" and do you think they are talking about this physical star? No but mighty ones. Is a figuative words.

Am sure u think the stars u see during the night are as small mustard seed, wait till when they are permitted to crash land on earth.

DeCleff:
Am sure u think the stars u see during the night are as small mustard seed, wait till when they are permitted to crash land on earth.

can you see your respond?.

jcross19:
can you see your respond?.

What else do u want me to say?

jcross19:
can you see your respond?.

What else do u want me to say?

Will Rowland grow old and die? Or is he immortal?

Will Rowland grow old and die? Or will he reign on earth forever?

DeCleff:
What else do u want me to say?

those verses you quoted are not just stories but a prophetic words.

@Jcross please, stop wasting time on this dude.
Where does he come From? Jesus says behold I come quickly and my reward is with me, to give to all according to their works. Will it be a child who will come with the rewards?
How people dey think sef? So Jesus will be born all over again, and the world will wait for him to grow up again, or he will be born and grow up straight and take over the world's government as a child? Is it Mary who will still give birth to him, or another woman? Will it still be a Virgin?
Where's this dude coming from? Church of Jesus Christ of the Later day Saints?

DUNKA:
Will Rowland grow old and die? Or will he reign on earth forever?

The answers to ur questions are found in 1 Corinthians 15:24-28

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be
destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is
excepted, which did put all
things under him.

28 And when all things shall be
subdued unto him, then shall
the Son also himself be
subject unto him that put all
things under him, that God
may be all in all.


Now He will reign and execute judgement before handing over to His Father Leader Olumba Olumba Obu who is God Almighty.

analice107:
@Jcross please, stop wasting time on this dude.
Where does he come From? Jesus says behold I come quickly and my reward is with me, to give to all according to their works. Will it be a child who will come with the rewards?
How people dey think sef? So Jesus will be born all over again, and the world will wait for him to grow up again, or he will be born and grow up straight and take over the world's government as a child? Is it Mary who will still give birth to him, or another woman? Will it still be a Virgin?
Where's this dude coming from? Church of Jesus Christ of the Later day Saints?

So ur Bible is incomplete or is it that u read but lacked understanding?

Who else is equal to God if not Jesus?

Who else is qualified to rule all nations if not Jesus?

Who else is the King of kings and Lord of Lord of lords if not Jesus?

Jesus said i came down from heaven but was He not born of Mary?

Least u forget, in order to save mankind Our Lord Jesus Christ had to come in human form. Now that He come and reign over His subjects, do u think He not also take the same human form?

jcross19:
those verses you quoted are not just stories but a prophetic words.

Good u know they are prophet words and i am sure u are aware that prophecies are always about what will happen and not what had happened.

DeCleff:
The Jews till date are waiting for Elijah and Emmanuel when they already came as John and Jesus Christ.

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emmanuel and jesus christ are different person ?

malvisguy212:
emmanuel and jesus christ are different person ?

No! They are the same.

DeCleff:
No! They are the same.

where is leader olumba? Is he not deceased ? If he is still alive why can he not be seen physically?

DUNKA:
where is leader olumba? Is he not deceased ? If he is still alive why can he not be seen physically?

God Almighty Leader Olumba Olumba Obu is a Spirit John 4:24.

Can the Ancient of Days die? Leader Olumba Olumba Obu has fulfilled the scriptures by handing over authority to Our Lord Jesus Christ Who is now known by His New Name His Holiness Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu to reign over His subjects and execute judgement in the last day before handing back the authority to God Almighty Leader Olumba Olumba Obu. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28.

Leader Olumba Olumba Obu made Himself invisible to the optical eyes but lavishly seen in the Spiritual realm. If after handing over authority to His Christ to reign on earth, yet still makes Himself visible to all; do u think anyone will acknowledge His Son? Today He is in the Son and whosoever sees the Son has seen the Father and whosoever that believes and honours the Son also believes and honours the Father.

The Trinity are One

The Father is the Word
The Son is the Word
The Spirit is also the Word.

The Bible says in Christ dwelleth the fullness of the Godhead bodily. So, in Christ His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

DeCleff:
God Almighty Leader Olumba Olumba Obu is a Spirit John 4:24.

Can the Ancient of Days die? Leader Olumba Olumba Obu has fulfilled the scriptures by handing over authority to Our Lord Jesus Christ Who is now known by His New Name His Holiness Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu to reign over His subjects and execute judgement in the last day before handing back the authority to God Almighty Leader Olumba Olumba Obu. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28.

Leader Olumba Olumba Obu made Himself invisible to the optical eyes but lavishly seen in the Spiritual realm. If after handing over authority to His Christ to reign on earth, yet still makes Himself visible to all; do u think anyone will acknowledge His Son? Today He is in the Son and whosoever sees the Son has seen the Father and whosoever that believes and honours the Son also believes and honours the Father.

The Trinity are One

The Father is the Word
The Son is the Word
The Spirit is also the Word.

The Bible says in Christ dwelleth the fullness of the Godhead bodily. So, in Christ His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Oh, the guy is OOO. No wonder him dey go left left.
So your leader Olumba will come back and be born again before he will rule the world?

DeCleff:
God Almighty Leader Olumba Olumba Obu is a Spirit John 4:24.

Can the Ancient of Days die? Leader Olumba Olumba Obu has fulfilled the scriptures by handing over authority to Our Lord Jesus Christ Who is now known by His New Name His Holiness Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu to reign over His subjects and execute judgement in the last day before handing back the authority to God Almighty Leader Olumba Olumba Obu. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28.

Leader Olumba Olumba Obu made Himself invisible to the optical eyes but lavishly seen in the Spiritual realm. If after handing over authority to His Christ to reign on earth, yet still makes Himself visible to all; do u think anyone will acknowledge His Son? Today He is in the Son and whosoever sees the Son has seen the Father and whosoever that believes and honours the Son also believes and honours the Father.

The Trinity are One

The Father is the Word
The Son is the Word
The Spirit is also the Word.

The Bible says in Christ dwelleth the fullness of the Godhead bodily. So, in Christ His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Oh, the guy is OOO. No wonder him dey go left left.
So your leader Olumba will come back and be born again before he will rule the world?
Make una the let somebody know from start where una stand before somebody go dey wast time dey answer any op.

The Coming of the Kingdom
20 Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming in ways that can be observed,
21 nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.” h
22 And he said to the disciples, “The days are coming when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. 23 And they will say to you, ‘Look, there!’ or ‘Look, here!’ Do not go out or follow them. 24 For as the lightning flashes and lights up the sky from one side to the other, so will the Son of Man be in his day. i 25 But first he must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.
26 Just as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of Man.
27 They were eating and drinking and marrying and being given in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise, just as it was in the days of Lot—they were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building, 29 but on the day when Lot went out from Sodom, fire and sulfur rained from heaven and destroyed them all— 30 so will it be on the day when the Son of Man is revealed. 31 On that day, let the one who is on the housetop, with his goods in the house, not come down to take them away, and likewise let the one who is in the field not turn back. 32 Remember Lot’s wife. 33 Whoever seeks to preserve his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life will keep it. 34 I tell you, in that night there will be two in one bed. One will be taken and the other left. 35 There will be two women grinding together. One will be taken and the other left.” j 37 And they said to him, “Where, Lord?” He said to them,
“Where the corpse k is, there the vultures l will gather.”

DeCleff:
■ I wonder why our pastors can't tell us the simple Biblical truth. They made everyone belive that Our Lord Jesus Christ will come a second time by appearing in the cloud to rapture the church but the made it clear that He will be born the second time into the world by a woman and will bear a NEW NAME. Infact, it was Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself who gave Apostle John the revelations 65 years after His glorious ascension into heaven. So, can't preachers tell their members simple truth? Or are they ignorant of those scriptures?
■This is a very sensitive matter and its important the church is awaken to the truth before its too late. We must not allow ignorance to hinder us from knowing our God. The Jews till date are waiting for Elijah and Emmanuel when they already came as John and Jesus Christ. Its time to study our Bible and pray for God to guide us aright because the prosperity minded pastors are more concerned with sowing bountifully and reaping bountifully. Our Lord Jesus Christ said we should search the Scriptures.

1. where in scripture is this found?

2. which church?