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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by favoredgal: 2:48am On Feb 17, 2016
Thanks Nita
For me that the whole Medicals will be free / refundable with my insurance it's probably still cheaper than the Us.

I guess when I'm ready will look at the other costs such as accommodation and processing of documents to decide if it's worth it

This whole no formula wave is also hitting the USA. At oakbend on my second missionary journey ( so unlike the first) they also refused to give formula, refused to keep the baby at the nursery.
Same happened with a friend that used memorial Hermann too
Not sure what this health card is about but I doubt I need it
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 8:35am On Feb 17, 2016
When I feel better, I will come back for some analysis based on this post


Nita2013:
Ok as regards what she told me,

She went with her 2kids who distracted d Cbp officer so he didn't notice her pregnancy and she was scared to declare with all d stories of pple been sent back.

Hotstepper helped her with a doc and she said hotstepper is a very nice and fantastic person as she was super helpful tru out.

She also said d doctor was very nice and friendly. Doctor fee for VD she paid 3,000 CAD. Hotstepper told her she had a cheaper doctor but she had already paid d 1st doctor Hotstepper recommended.

Hospital fee she paid 2,000cad for one night and 500cad for baby. I asked her y one night and she said its a norm rule there that VD is one night except there is complication(s). One night starts counting from when u come into d hospital (she went to d hospital by 9.30pm on d 27th. Had her baby 1.59 am on d 28th and was discharged around 7pm 28) New born screening 200cadd

CS is 2,500cad per night and d norm rule for CS is 2nights so that sums up to 5,000cad for hospital fee alone with CS.
Hospital was nothing to write home about as they were not friendly at all. She was virtually begging for baby formula cos she wasn't lactating yet so d baby could av something atleast. But they refused to give her until she left. Also no freebies at all.

(My sister-in-law based in canada confirmed d formula part that they discourage formula a lot and same thing happened to her when she had her baby. A lady that gave birth same time as my SIL brought her formula from home as she knew they were like that.)

She had her baby in Ontatio. Also pls be informed that many rules av changed. She further said no more free health card and social insurance number until d child is 18yrs where he or she can apply for both personally except one of d parent is atleast resident in Canada. This she said she doesn't kno if it's peculiar to Ontario province alone.

(My SIL in Alberta said same applies to their province because when her status expired her son could not receive d free primary health care cos his health card was tied to hers until she renewed her status)

She expedited d passport application and as for birth certificate she kept calling and disturbing them so it came out in 7days otherwise it can get up to 2-3weeks

Addition: Exchange rate when she used her 1st bank card was 204 to 1cad. GTBANK was 197/1cad. So when she did her calculations 1,000usd = 1,300cad.

Her advice I quote "except u want something different for ur child, otherwise face US. Chai! I miss US sha" lol

She had her 2nd baby in d US thus has experienced both countries.

#my finger don dey pain me ooo# can't remember d last time I wrote such a long post on NL. I hope I covered all d arears. For further enquiry, hotstepper can assist. Cheers


Re: Giving Birth In Canada by vcole: 2:11pm On Feb 17, 2016
*hugs* get better soon oh. We wait with bated breath. lol. grin
Hotstepper:

When I feel better, I will come back for some analysis based on this post


Re: Giving Birth In Canada by chizzybaby247: 10:54am On Feb 18, 2016
Hello people,
Am safely back from my journey, all thanks to God almighty. none of the Cbp was interested in my huge baby bump, they just had my passport stamped in. had my baby after 24 hrs i arrived my destination, Lloyminster Alberta, it was indeed a miracle birth. God decided to bring the baby out at 37 weeks at Praire north hospital at Lloydminster, the nurses and doctors were good and the hospital is also good. spent about 7000cad for all the hospital bills. the only aspect i didnt like is the issue of not giving free health card and social insurance number until d child is 18yrs where he or she can apply for both personally except one of d parent is atleast resident in Canada. hotstepper please get well soon and analyse that for us as you promised.

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Nita2013: 11:00am On Feb 18, 2016
Congrats on a successful journey.
That was a close one ooo. U for born for inside aircraft ooo lol
U just confirmed what my cousin said as regards Health Card and d Social Insurance number but at least u got d kpali which is d main koko.

Pls can u give a breakdown of d 7000cad u spent?


chizzybaby247:
Hello people,
Am safely back from my journey, all thanks to God almighty. none of the Cbp was interested in my huge baby bump, they just had my passport stamped in. had my baby after 24 hrs i arrived my destination, Lloyminster Alberta, it was indeed a miracle birth. God decided to bring the baby out at 37 weeks at Praire north hospital at Lloydminster, the nurses and doctors were good and the hospital is also good. spent about 7000cad for all the hospital bills. the only aspect i didnt like is the issue of not giving free health card and social insurance number until d child is 18yrs where he or she can apply for both personally except one of d parent is atleast resident in Canada. hotstepper please get well soon and analyse that for us as you promised.
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 6:14pm On Feb 18, 2016
I am back so I don't keep u all waiting smiley

Where she was staying with a friend is about 40 mins away from where the dr my family friend used is so it doesn't make sense to be traveling that far thus why she had the dr she did. I still think the fee is reasonable compared to the fact that cad dollar is lower. Also, it depends on Dr and hospital. If she did it where I leave, her hospital bill would have been 3000 instead of 2500.
The doctor said the bill also depends on when you are in labour and came to the hospital . If you come after 12 when Dr's r home esp your own and has to come to deliver u then it's more expensive.

Canadian hospital/ doctors according to the dr I spoke to is here to serve the citizens and permanent resident because they didn't want it to be open like US and things will go wrong but that doesn't mean if an international patient is in the country that they won't take the person. She also said everything is negotiable that you can always try and bargain . My family friend did and it worked .

If you have vaginas delivery and all is well, u stay only 24 hrs, this also applies to the residents as well. I was following up every week with her ( if she didn't know me,Trust me she would have found it even more difficult as the person she was staying with just came to canada new too) . The birth certificates takes only 5 days to come because the very day you apply is when they send it out and I always advice people to apply immediately they go home from the hospital as it's online. With her, she ordered for only the short birth certificate which is not sufficient for applying for the baby's documents. If I didn't ask her and learnt it was only the short one she would have stayed more in canada sef as she needed to get the long one too they call registration of birth where the child parents information is and this is the very one u need to use and apply for the passport.

Just like other countries, canadian immigration changes all the time. The not giving social insurance card is not only peculiar to international patients but also residents. A chikd under 14 doesn't need one except you want to open an education fund for your chikd in which the bank will require it if not the child doesn't need it nd most residents doesn't get it for their kids. I got my kids own cuz I have re-education fund registered in their name with their SIN number .

The issue of health card. Common you don't think this people are stupid. Do you know how much tax payers money they spend on health care and then you have a child and take him out and anytime he or she comes to visit, he benefits from other people's tax of which none of his parents r paying . Perhaps that's why they stopped giving . The child can apply at 18 and it will be given to him and he starts benefiting from it which is still 1000 times better than the US in the long run.

I don't know why they refused to give her baby food although someone mentioned that a relative of hers who is a resident also experienced such which indicates it's not cuz she's an international patient. I just think it has to do with the hospital or nurse you met. My family friend got lots of free things including baby food and each time we go to see a pediatrician she even gets more. I got too even diapers so I think it depends on who u see .

I think this is pretty much what it is


Nita2013:
Ok as regards what she told me,

She went with her 2kids who distracted d Cbp officer so he didn't notice her pregnancy and she was scared to declare with all d stories of pple been sent back.

Hotstepper helped her with a doc and she said hotstepper is a very nice and fantastic person as she was super helpful tru out.

She also said d doctor was very nice and friendly. Doctor fee for VD she paid 3,000 CAD. Hotstepper told her she had a cheaper doctor but she had already paid d 1st doctor Hotstepper recommended.

Hospital fee she paid 2,000cad for one night and 500cad for baby. I asked her y one night and she said its a norm rule there that VD is one night except there is complication(s). One night starts counting from when u come into d hospital (she went to d hospital by 9.30pm on d 27th. Had her baby 1.59 am on d 28th and was discharged around 7pm 28) New born screening 200cadd

CS is 2,500cad per night and d norm rule for CS is 2nights so that sums up to 5,000cad for hospital fee alone with CS.
Hospital was nothing to write home about as they were not friendly at all. She was virtually begging for baby formula cos she wasn't lactating yet so d baby could av something atleast. But they refused to give her until she left. Also no freebies at all.

(My sister-in-law based in canada confirmed d formula part that they discourage formula a lot and same thing happened to her when she had her baby. A lady that gave birth same time as my SIL brought her formula from home as she knew they were like that.)

She had her baby in Ontatio. Also pls be informed that many rules av changed. She further said no more free health card and social insurance number until d child is 18yrs where he or she can apply for both personally except one of d parent is atleast resident in Canada. This she said she doesn't kno if it's peculiar to Ontario province alone.

(My SIL in Alberta said same applies to their province because when her status expired her son could not receive d free primary health care cos his health card was tied to hers until she renewed her status)

She expedited d passport application and as for birth certificate she kept calling and disturbing them so it came out in 7days otherwise it can get up to 2-3weeks

Addition: Exchange rate when she used her 1st bank card was 204 to 1cad. GTBANK was 197/1cad. So when she did her calculations 1,000usd = 1,300cad.

Her advice I quote "except u want something different for ur child, otherwise face US. Chai! I miss US sha" lol

She had her 2nd baby in d US thus has experienced both countries.

#my finger don dey pain me ooo# can't remember d last time I wrote such a long post on NL. I hope I covered all d arears. For further enquiry, hotstepper can assist. Cheers


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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by favoredgal: 8:23pm On Feb 18, 2016
Thanks hotstepper.
Still very confusing but I guess as I follow the thread I will understand better
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 2:18am On Feb 19, 2016
What's confusing you? Tell me and I will make it clearer for u



favoredgal:
Thanks hotstepper.
Still very confusing but I guess as I follow the thread I will understand better
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by wayinoma: 9:20am On Feb 19, 2016
Hotstepper:
What's confusing you? Tell me and I will make it clearer for u


@ hotstepper thank you sooo much for explaining. Pls biko you need to give your email as per your consulting business. Thank you
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by vcole: 9:22am On Feb 19, 2016
Congrats and welcome back. did you already have a trv before you embarked on this trip or did you apply while pregnant? if you did have a trv before getting pregnant, did you already use that visa before now? if you applied while pregnant, did you declare birth purposes in your application? what was you poe? what did the cbp ask you on arrival? thanks in anticipation.
chizzybaby247:
Hello people,
Am safely back from my journey, all thanks to God almighty. none of the Cbp was interested in my huge baby bump, they just had my passport stamped in. had my baby after 24 hrs i arrived my destination, Lloyminster Alberta, it was indeed a miracle birth. God decided to bring the baby out at 37 weeks at Praire north hospital at Lloydminster, the nurses and doctors were good and the hospital is also good. spent about 7000cad for all the hospital bills. the only aspect i didnt like is the issue of not giving free health card and social insurance number until d child is 18yrs where he or she can apply for both personally except one of d parent is atleast resident in Canada. hotstepper please get well soon and analyse that for us as you promised.
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by dan147: 10:11am On Feb 19, 2016
please HOTSTEPPER help me clear my head....i am 4months pregnant and i will like to deliver in canada. i don't know if it is possible because i don't have any family member in canada. i intend applying with my husband and daughter. we have travelled to south africa as a family but my husband has been to other countries...and about accomodation i intend renting a house till i deliver. thanks
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by favoredgal: 11:31am On Feb 19, 2016
Hotstepper:
What's confusing you? Tell me and I will make it clearer for u


my confusion list is plenty o! But let's start with the following;

1. Cost of renting an apartment (2 bed) for about 2 months or do one go the route of extended stay

2. How do people move about - is the transportation system like london where there are trains everywhere or Houston where we rent or uber

3. You said birth cert takes 5 days. What of passport? And Naija visa - or can we get a Naija passport for the baby

4. What city is best - considering ease of movement, the fact that I don't know a soul in Canada (actually I do but thru don't have papers I no wan near them), proximity to a good hospital / dr / shopping Centre / airport / passport processing office etc

My insurance covers up to $10k dollars for birth and medical related expenses

Thanks in anticipation

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by favoredgal: 11:33am On Feb 19, 2016
chizzybaby247:
Hello people,
Am safely back from my journey, all thanks to God almighty. none of the Cbp was interested in my huge baby bump, they just had my passport stamped in. had my baby after 24 hrs i arrived my destination, Lloyminster Alberta, it was indeed a miracle birth. God decided to bring the baby out at 37 weeks at Praire north hospital at Lloydminster, the nurses and doctors were good and the hospital is also good. spent about 7000cad for all the hospital bills. the only aspect i didnt like is the issue of not giving free health card and social insurance number until d child is 18yrs where he or she can apply for both personally except one of d parent is atleast resident in Canada. hotstepper please get well soon and analyse that for us as you promised.

Congrats and welcome back
37 was cutting it close thank God u still made it
Pls can you give more details especially on where you stayed / cost
Movement
Weather
Processing of documents
Naija visa / passport
Etc

Thanks

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 1:33pm On Feb 19, 2016
I will answer your questions n sections just like you have asked them.

1. Depending on what part of the country, can go from 1000 up since it's 2 bedroom

2. If you are going to be in Toronto which I advise you stay since you don't know any whine then the set up I'd like US and buses run till 2 am.

3. Birth certificate, passport all takes about 5 to 7 business days so u apply as soon as you can and follow up too by tracking it online or calling them if need be. I always tell people to fill the passport application form and get it ready so once the birth certificate comes, u just go and submit the application. If your map ouse won't be coming with you, they will require that he goes to one of the canadian embassy and sign sumthing just to make sure he's the baby's Father. I have an insider in Nigerian embassy in ottawa cuz to go there and their yeye is sumthing else and I always advise for travel document and when you get to naija you do passport . The guy charges for it anywayz but it's always ur best best .

4. Toronto is your best bet esp since you don't know anyone

Good luck




favoredgal:


my confusion list is plenty o! But let's start with the following;

1. Cost of renting an apartment (2 bed) for about 2 months or do one go the route of extended stay

2. How do people move about - is the transportation system like london where there are trains everywhere or Houston where we rent or uber

3. You said birth cert takes 5 days. What of passport? And Naija visa - or can we get a Naija passport for the baby

4. What city is best - considering ease of movement, the fact that I don't know a soul in Canada (actually I do but thru don't have papers I no wan near them), proximity to a good hospital / dr / shopping Centre / airport / passport processing office etc

My insurance covers up to $10k dollars for birth and medical related expenses

Thanks in anticipation

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by IyawoToBe(f): 1:53pm On Feb 19, 2016
Hotstepper:
I will answer your questions n sections just like you have asked them.

1. Depending on what part of the country, can go from 1000 up since it's 2 bedroom

2. If you are going to be in Toronto which I advise you stay since you don't know any whine then the set up I'd like US and buses run till 2 am.

3. Birth certificate, passport all takes about 5 to 7 business days so u apply as soon as you can and follow up too by tracking it online or calling them if need be. I always tell people to fill the passport application form and get it ready so once the birth certificate comes, u just go and submit the application. If your map ouse won't be coming with you, they will require that he goes to one of the canadian embassy and sign sumthing just to make sure he's the baby's Father. I have an insider in Nigerian embassy in ottawa cuz to go there and their yeye is sumthing else and I always advise for travel document and when you get to naija you do passport . The guy charges for it anywayz but it's always ur best best .

4. Toronto is your best bet esp since you don't know anyone

Good luck




Hotstepper for First Lady!!!! wink

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by chizzybaby247: 2:16pm On Feb 19, 2016
thanks so much my people. it was indeed a journey filled with testimonies.

i applied for my TRV on 26th August and got the visa Oct 12th, then i was already about 36 weeks gone. there was no place in the application that they asked if i was pregnant, so i didnt say i was. leaving Nigeria at that stage in pregnancy wasnt like i planned it that way but the visa took so long to be approved. i submitted via paper route in Abuja embassy. i didnt have any issue at the port of entry. the cbp only asked me how long am there for. i told him 2 weeks because thats what my flight booking says. i changed the dates when i got there, cause i intended staying for 2 months.

On my stay there, i stayed in my brother's house, and the wife took me to all the places i went to, so i didnt have the course to hire a cab. weather wasnt funny for me. that was the peak of winter there.

breakdown of the hospital bill(7000cad)
mother's bill 3000cad
doctor's bill 1600cad
baby's bill 2500cad

blood work for baby 600cad

that makes it total of 7600cad

I applied for the birth certificate and got it 7 days with 25cad

after which we travelled to Edmonton for the passport, i had to go for express and i paid 110cad and got it within 5 days.

i didnt go for Nigerian passport, we only got travelling document, from Otawa and i paid about 150cad not too sure. that also came out like in 5 days.

feel free to ask more questions if you need more information

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by favoredgal: 2:17pm On Feb 19, 2016
Hotstepper:
I will answer your questions n sections just like you have asked them.

1. Depending on what part of the country, can go from 1000 up since it's 2 bedroom

2. If you are going to be in Toronto which I advise you stay since you don't know any whine then the set up I'd like US and buses run till 2 am.

3. Birth certificate, passport all takes about 5 to 7 business days so u apply as soon as you can and follow up too by tracking it online or calling them if need be. I always tell people to fill the passport application form and get it ready so once the birth certificate comes, u just go and submit the application. If your map ouse won't be coming with you, they will require that he goes to one of the canadian embassy and sign sumthing just to make sure he's the baby's Father. I have an insider in Nigerian embassy in ottawa cuz to go there and their yeye is sumthing else and I always advise for travel document and when you get to naija you do passport . The guy charges for it anywayz but it's always ur best best .

4. Toronto is your best bet esp since you don't know anyone

Good luck


Toronto it is then. God bless
Are you in Toronto

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 6:09am On Feb 20, 2016
Yes Ma


favoredgal:


Toronto it is then. God bless
Are you in Toronto

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by dan147: 10:13pm On Feb 20, 2016
it seems @Hotstepper chooses questions to answer or people to reply...

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 10:38am On Feb 21, 2016
So wrong oo. Maybe I missed it. If I didn't answer question plz write it again. ...ndo oò





dan147:
it seems @Hotstepper chooses questions to answer or people to reply...
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by davgel(m): 8:36pm On Feb 21, 2016
@Hotstepper. I need guidance on how to go about visa application in order to give birth in Canada. Do you have any hospital/doctor to recommend?
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by dan147: 10:21am On Feb 22, 2016
Thanks HOTSTEPPER ,my worry is this...i am 4months pregnant and i will like to deliver in canada. i don't know if it is possible because i don't have any family member in canada. i intend applying with my husband and daughter. we have traveled to south africa as a family but my husband has been to other countries...and about accommodation i intend renting a house till i deliver. thanks
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by bbaby84(f): 9:57pm On Feb 22, 2016
dan147:
Thanks HOTSTEPPER ,my worry is this...i am 4months pregnant and i will like to deliver in canada. i don't know if it is possible because i don't have any family member in canada. i intend applying with my husband and daughter. we have traveled to south africa as a family but my husband has been to other countries...and about accommodation i intend renting a house till i deliver. thanks


I see the answers to your question just up there. ...
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 1:09am On Feb 23, 2016
After now someone will say I don't answer questions abi I pick the ones I want to answer yet Nigerians gat phobia for reading


bbaby84:



I see the answers to your question just up there. ...

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by dan147: 10:31am On Feb 23, 2016
Thanks once more@hotstepper, the questions you answered wasn't asked by me but by favoredgal but I can relate with her answers....so I can go ahead and apply even though I have no one.
Hotstepper:

After now someone will say I don't answer questions abi I pick the ones I want to answer yet Nigerians gat phobia for reading


Re: Giving Birth In Canada by favoredgal: 11:52am On Feb 23, 2016
dan147:
Thanks once more@hotstepper, the questions you answered wasn't asked by me but by favoredgal but I can relate with her answers....so I can go ahead and apply even though I have no one.

The questions are the same....obviously the same answer applies,... She doesn't need to type it again that what she meant.
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by hermosa(f): 1:02pm On Mar 05, 2016
Hi people! Is anyone going to be in Ontario, Toronto from March to June? Im leaving for ON in March and I'll be there tlli June. would love to have other soon to be mothers as companions. We can exchange information about antenatal care there.
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by favoredgal: 1:40pm On Mar 05, 2016
hermosa:
Hi people! Is anyone going to be in Ontario, Toronto from March to June? Im leaving for ON in March and I'll be there tlli June. would love to have other soon to be mothers as companions. We can exchange information about antenatal care there.
@hotstepper do you know of any hospital where I can deliver for an affordable fee? I already have an obgyn over there he's Nigerian but he's a bit expensive I want to see if there are other options.
Then also do you know of anyone who's ever tried home birth? Ive been watching a lot of videos o youtube and im almost interested in trying it out. Is home birth dangerous to do, and if I do have home birth would I need to get an ambulance on standby to take me to the hospital or its not necessary? And what about midwives how do I get one?

Congrats and safe journey and delivery. Pls keep us posted on how it goes in detail
Pls don't try a home birth in a foreign land. If things go south you will end up spending far more than you can imagine for emergency

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Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Fvine: 9:12am On Mar 10, 2016
Hi All, please in the present times:
1.what is the benefit of giving birth in Canada?
2. Are the benefits better than what you'd get in US?
3. Canada or US what will you advice and why?

Thanks in advance.

cc: Hotstepper
Re: Giving Birth In Canada by Hotstepper(f): 11:03pm On Mar 10, 2016
Where in Ontario will u be staying? I guess it's Brampton with cuz that's where the Nigerian doctor is. Do u have anyone you will be staying with? Toronto should be a little bit less I guess as there's population.

I.dont know anything about home birth and won't advice u do so. Safe journey ooo nd bring crayfish them for me jare smiley

hermosa:
Hi people! Is anyone going to be in Ontario, Toronto from March to June? Im leaving for ON in March and I'll be there tlli June. would love to have other soon to be mothers as companions. We can exchange information about antenatal care there.
@hotstepper do you know of any hospital where I can deliver for an affordable fee? I already have an obgyn over there he's Nigerian but he's a bit expensive I want to see if there are other options.
Then also do you know of anyone who's ever tried home birth? Ive been watching a lot of videos o youtube and im almost interested in trying it out. Is home birth dangerous to do, and if I do have home birth would I need to get an ambulance on standby to take me to the hospital or its not necessary? And what about midwives how do I get one?

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