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Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 2:08am On Mar 02, 2016 |
To have a proper understanding of how Grace works, and of the fact that it does not blot out the moral law of GOD, click on this link: www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/25/t/does-gods-grace-blot-out-the-law |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 2:15am On Mar 02, 2016 |
To clearly understand the true message of Romans 7 (which many people misunderstand), please click on this link: www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/10066/t/the-flesh-and-the-spirit |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 2:19am On Mar 02, 2016 |
To know the truth in detail about the Sabbath of GOD, I urge you to click on this link: www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/87/t/why-god-said-remember |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 2:21am On Mar 02, 2016 |
And to know why the old covenant failed, I urge you to click on this link: www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/88/t/why-the-old-covenant-failed |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 7:05am On Mar 02, 2016 |
Philadelphia:But Jesus came to fulfill (not merely obey like Zechariah, Elizabeth etc did) the Law, what then? 1 Like |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 7:07am On Mar 02, 2016 |
Philadelphia:the ones you can glean from the Pentateuch |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 7:11am On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:That is not a prophesy! It is simply uncovering the sins prevalent then. What holy things was profaned by the Rcc? (BY THE WAY I AM NOT A CATHOLIC) who were the reference here according to the context? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 7:14am On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:And how many times did they urge the Gentiles to keep the sabbath for salvation? The excuse of the sabbath not being an issue then suggests rather heretically, that the Bible needs to be updated to address modern day issues! God forbid! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 7:16am On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Question: IS THE BIBLE COMPLETE OR NEEDS SOME ADDENDA TO MATCH PRESENT CHALLENGES THAT WERE NOT THERE AT THE TIME OF WRITING? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 7:34am On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:In/effect, you are implying that Jesus could reveal the moral conditions in the last days in Matthew 24 but failed to see the sabbath issue then; Paul could prophesy about the spiritual declension in the last days as 2 Timothy 3 shows but somehow skipped sabbath breaking; Peter, Jude etc perfectly described the impact of false teachers in the last days yet NONE was Inspired by the Spirit to see sabbath breaking!!! What an outrageous claim 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Philadelphia: 7:37am On Mar 02, 2016 |
Scholar8200: It is obvious that you are running away from the truth as you deliberately avoid the questions asked you by DoctorAlien and I. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Philadelphia: 7:38am On Mar 02, 2016 |
Scholar8200:It is obvious that you are running away from the truth as you deliberately avoid the questions asked you by DoctorAlien and I. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Nobody: 6:15pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: The scriptural answer is yes. It has fulfilled its role. It is holy cos it came from God. However, God gave it for a purpose, to make transgression manifest. But can it make those under it perfect? Nope. It can't fulfill that role for which it was not meant. It is thus weak and ineffective as regards perfection of humans. Heb 7:18, 19. It then needs to be set aside for another to finish the job. The tabernacle and its utensils were holy, but has been done away with cos it has served its purpose. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Nobody: 6:22pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
Philadelphia: Check the comment I quoted to see how it relates. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 7:33pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
Scholar8200: LOL. Have you now resorted to laying false accusations against me? Where did I ever imply that the Bible was not complete? Meanwhile, you keep running from the question I asked you: Did Jesus obey the 10 Commandments when He was on earth? Answer with yes or no. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 7:40pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Tell me where and how I implied that the Bible needs to be updated? Instead, you're the one who has outrightly implied that the Bible needs to be updated, since you have disputed the truths contained in it. What can a man have against the moral Law of GOD? You keep resisting the truths of the Bible, twisting and distorting and misinterpreting Bible verses to suit the lie you have chosen to believe. With what are the disciples of GOD sealed? Isa. 8:16 answers. It does not matter whether you are in the RCC or not: all the churches which have inherited Sunday worship from the RCC and teach and practice it are the harlots being talked about in Rev. 17:5. The RCC is the mother of harlots. The Law of GOD is eternal |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 7:48pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
Scholar8200: James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all". James was writing this epistle to the early church of which Gentiles were part. This is James exhorting Christians to keep the commandments of GOD fully, not choose some to keep, and others not to keep. You honour your parents, you don't kill, you don't steal, you don't bear false witness, you don't covet; all these things are from the same law. Why then would you choose to break one of the laws? Is the 4th commandment not also part of the Law? You are the one implying that the Bible needs to be updated, if you dispute what is so clearly written in the Bible. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 7:52pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
Scholar8200: The Bible is complete. I wonder when the completeness of the Bible became an issue. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 7:58pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Why would you even bring up the word "gentile" in your argument? Do you consider yourself a gentile even when you claim to be a Christian? When the GOD is very clear that "there is neither Jew nor Gentile...in Christ Jesus"(Gal. 3:28) ? We are the spiritual Israel of GOD. The excuse that the Gentiles were not commanded to keep the Sabbath of GOD is a lie I don't know where you got from. There is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ. If you hear His word today, do not harden your heart. 1 Like |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 8:00pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
JMAN05: If you claim you have been released from the moral Law of GOD, under whose law are you now? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 8:03pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
JMAN05: If you claim that the Law of GOD has been done away with (just like utensils), what do you have to say about this verse? Psalm 119:160 "All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal" You also claimed the Law of GOD was "weak and ineffective": Here is what the Law of GOD can do in a man: Psalms 119:9-10 "wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word...O let me not wander from thy commandments." |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 8:12pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Now answer the question with yes or no: did Jesus obey the 10 Commandments when He was on earth? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 8:15pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Indeed, whoever that teaches you that you can now disregard the Holy Sabbath of GOD is a false teacher, whoever he is. Paul warned us about such teachers, who have a "form of godliness but deny the power thereof" (2 Tim 3:5). The funny part of it is that Paul says that they are "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of truth"(2 Tim 3:7). LOL. They think they know much about GOD and His ways yet they continue in stark disobedience to the even the plainest of the truths of GOD revealed in the Bible. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Nobody: 8:32pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Like I said, law of Christ is still God's law. The principles of the old law still guides xtians. However, the mosaic law has fulfilled its purpose. You cant come now as a christian to kill a son who curse his father, nor stone a young single lady who slept with a man, nor do xtians kill a kidnapper, nor should you avenge when someone murders another intentionally. Exod 21:14-24, nope. We are not under that law. But these laws helps christians to see how serious God takes those crimes. There should not even be a separation btwn the cermonial and moral laws. If you transgress any, whether ceremonial or moral, you are guilty of all |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Nobody: 8:44pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: The principle of the old law still guides us. We live under the law of Christ. I have said that before. When you say Moral law I understand it to be the moral part of the mosaic law. As I said above, This separation of moral from ceremonial is unscriptural. Even Jesus never made such separation when quoting from the Law. The Law is the same, so transgressing any of it makes you guilty of all. Even when you did the separation, Rom 7:6, 7 shows that the moral aspect was no longer binding on us. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 10:08pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:But why the deafening silence about the 'plainest of the truths' where many other vices are painstakingly prophesied! Especially when you claim it is essential for salvation! I wonder why you did not clarify the issues raised but rather makes claims that implicates the Lord and His apostles! |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 10:10pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Let the Lord answer you: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets; I am not come to destroy but to FULFIL Matthew 5:17 There you have your answer. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Philadelphia: 10:11pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: The law of If he would answer. That is what his a answer would be. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 10:20pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Why not ask Paul why he used the word in Romans to make a distinction in explanation? I also wish you will show me where you got it from that the Gentiles that believed on Jesus were to be made to keep the sabbath in order to be saved! But the apostle had to use that term in making distinctions when making some analysis and that is what I have been doing. If you hear His word today, do not harden your heart.[/quote] I wonder what you would have told the rich, young ruler if he told you he had kept all the law but still lacked the substance! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 10:35pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Then why do you claim that a subject was not emphasized, nor commanded in the NT because the problem had not started then? What of all the clearly futuristic prophecies and continual warnings on what to do? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 10:37pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Rather, you are the one interpreting a portion to support your claim even if that interpretation does not agree with other passages! |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 10:51pm On Mar 02, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Did Jesus obey the 10 Commandments when He was on earth? Answer with yes or no. So we can know where this argument stands |
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