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Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 10:44pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Scholar8200: You have not answered my question. If you claim you have been released from GOD's moral Law, and are now under Christ's Law, do you mean GOD has His own Laws while Christ has His own Laws? And the Bible told us that GOD's law is eternal (Psalm 119:160). Was the Law of GOD which is holy, righteous, good and eternal set aside for a new Law? Also, did Jesus obey the 10 Commandments (moral Law of GOD) when He was on earth? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 10:51pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Scholar8200: If you as a Christian claim you are no longer obliged to keeping the 10 Commandments, which means you have nothing to do with the 10 Commandments again, how then do you know what sin is to avoid it? What now is a sin to a Christian? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 10:52pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Which Law is Moses'? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 10:58pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Scholar8200: What then is the royal Law? If the 10 Commandments which were written by the finger of GOD, the King of the universe, is not royal, which law is royal then? Did Jesus Obey the 10 Commandments of GOD when He was on earth? Yes or No? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 10:59pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Did Jesus Christ keep the 10 Commandments of GOD when He was on earth? Yes or No? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 11:02pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Scholar8200: The Jesus Christ you have faith in, did He live by the 10 Commandments when He was on earth? Yes or No? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 11:08pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Can you explain what Paul meant when He said he established/upheld the Law in Romans 3:31? If this is the same Law which you claim has been done away with, how is it that Paul establishes it? The funny part of this is that this particular epistle was written to Romans, those you would refer to as "gentiles". There is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ, anyway. So, if as you claimed, "gentiles" were not admonished to keep the Holy Sabbath of GOD, how is it that Paul tells the Romans, "We establish the law"? Is the Holy Sabbath of GOD not part of the Law Paul established/upheld? Also, did Jesus keep the 10 Commandments of GOD when He was on earth? Yes or No? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by elveco: 2:08am On Mar 04, 2016 |
Colossians 2 ... please. Scholar8200: |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Nobody: 8:35am On Mar 04, 2016 |
Philadelphia: [b]The Bible does not specify the length of each of the creative periods. Yet all six of them have ended, it being said with respect to the sixth day (as in the case of each of the preceding five days): “And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a sixth day.” (Ge 1:31) However, this statement is not made regarding the seventh day, on which God proceeded to rest, indicating that it continued. (Ge 2:1-3) Also, more than 4,000 years after the seventh day, or God’s rest day, commenced, Paul indicated that it was still in progress. At Hebrews 4:1-11 he referred to the earlier words of David (Ps 95:7, 8, 11) and to Genesis 2:2 and urged: “Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest.” By the apostle’s time, the seventh day had been continuing for thousands of years and had not yet ended. The Thousand Year Reign of Jesus Christ, who is Scripturally identified as “Lord of the sabbath” (Mt 12:, is evidently part of the great sabbath, God’s rest day. (Re 20:1-6) This would indicate the passing of thousands of years from the commencement of God’s rest day to its end. The week of days set forth at Genesis 1:3 to 2:3, the last of which is a sabbath, seems to parallel the week into which the Israelites divided their time, observing a sabbath on the seventh day thereof, in keeping with the divine will. (Ex 20:8-11) And, since the seventh day has been continuing for thousands of years, it may reasonably be concluded that each of the six creative periods, or days, was at least thousands of years in length. That a day can be longer than 24 hours is indicated by Genesis 2:4, which speaks of all the creative periods as one “day.” Also indicative of this is Peter’s inspired observation that “one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.” (2Pe 3: Ascribing not just 24 hours but a longer period of time, thousands of years, to each of the creative days better harmonizes with the evidence found in the earth itself.[/b] |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Nobody: 8:41am On Mar 04, 2016 |
[b]The Bible states that God created “the heavens and the earth.” This broad statement, however, makes no reference to the length of time involved in creating the universe or to the methods he used to shape it. What about the widespread creationist belief that God created the universe in six literal 24-hour days? This concept, widely rejected by scientists, is based on a gross misunderstanding of the Bible account. Consider what the Bible really says. The Bible does not support fundamentalists and creationists who claim that the creative days were literal 24-hour days. The Bible frequently uses the term “day” to designate various periods of time. In some cases these periods are of an unspecified length. The account of creation found in the Bible book of Genesis is one example of this. In the Bible account, each of the six creative days could have lasted for thousands of years. God had already created the universe, including a lifeless planet Earth, by the time the first creative day began. Evidently the six creative days were long periods during which Jehovah God prepared the earth for human habitation. The Bible account of creation does not conflict with scientific conclusions about the age of the universe. God created the universe, including the earth, in the indefinite past—“in the beginning,” as Genesis 1:1 says. Modern science agrees that the universe had a beginning. A recent scientific model suggests it to be almost 14 billion years old. The Bible also describes six “days” of creation. However, it does not say that these were 24-hour days. (Genesis 1:31) In fact, the Bible uses the word “day” to refer to various lengths of time. For example, it calls the entire period of creation “the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.” (Genesis 2:4) Evidently, these “days” of creation lasted many thousands of years.—Psalm 90:4.[/b] |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 9:07am On Mar 04, 2016 |
elveco:Thanks a lot!!! |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 9:25am On Mar 04, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:31 Do we then nullify the Law by this faith [making the Law of no effect, overthrowing it]? Certainly not! On the contrary, we confirm and establish and uphold the Law [since it convicts us all of sin, pointing to the need for salvation]. Romans 3:31 AMP This was said against the background of the terms of reference for the law viz: Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall NO flesh be justified in His sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin Romans 3:20 Salvation through Christ alone! Making it clear that the Law fulfilled its part as a schoolmaster in bringing us to Christ by Whom alone we are justified! I know! The reason for the mention has been clarified bro! Why dont you rebuke the Apostles that said this first? 14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? 15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, Galatians 2:14,15 It was mentioned then and here only for explanatory purposes! That passage in Romans is not talking of making gentiles keep the law but leading all men to see the ffg: 1. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall NO flseh be justified in His sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin Romans 3:20 Does this sound like someone about to ask people to keep the law to be saved? I trow not! 2. But now, the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, BEING WITNESSED BY THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS; even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ!!! Romans 3:21,22a The righteousness of God made available by faith in Him Who fulfilled the Law and the Prophets!!! Does this still sound like someone saying ,"keep the law that thou might be saved"?? Dont just take the last verse and build a teaching, consider the whole chapter, nay the whole epistle and the context of the writer!!! 1 Like |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Philadelphia: 9:29am On Mar 04, 2016 |
TheRector: Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. How long did it take God to pronounce these things to being? Except you want to say that God stammers. God forbid. John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. So did Jesus mean a non-literal 3 days period? As for 2 Peter 3:8, it relates to prophecy. Lookup Daniel 8:14. I hope you understand prophecy. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 9:31am On Mar 04, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: James 2:8 Pray what number is the bolded in the 10 commandments? Like PAul noted, the Royal law, an expression of the Divine Nature, is the substance of the 10 commandments!!! |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 9:32am On Mar 04, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: James 2:8 Pray what number is the highlighted in the 10 commandments? Like PAul noted, the Royal law, an expression of the Divine Nature, is the substance of the 10 commandments!!! |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 9:46am On Mar 04, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:For me to answer your question, ask thus,''Did Jesus Christ obey the 10 commandments as He said He did in ( give book, chapter and verse) |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Philadelphia: 9:50am On Mar 04, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Scholar8200: All these your cut and join would never take you anywhere. You are quoting in parts just to make your "points" seem "valid". Why don't you read the next 3 verses and get explanation to where you quoted? Well this is it: James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. What do you understand by the bolded? When you hear "royal" it relates to King, palace, etc. The only King that gave a law in the bible is King Jesus who is God. His law is the royal law. Other earthly kings gave decrees. Paul also gave us further explanations on the royal law to tell you that it is to just only one but is a constituent. He gave us an example @ the one in purple. Amongst all the laws you know of in the bible, which one do you find "do not commit adultery" "do not kill"? Answer my questions. If you still choose to be stiff-necked, I'd let you be but do not allow my words testify against you on the day of judgement. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 10:25am On Mar 04, 2016 |
Philadelphia:The royal law was clearly stated there and it is NOT part of the 10 commandments! I find nothing here that enjoins keeping the law for salvation! Besides, would you claim that the Priests were guilty of breaking the whole law since they profaned the sabbath? When Jesus said they were blameless The law had its purpose sir! The passage that itemised some parts of the 10 commandments that you quoted came after this (not royal law): For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all James 2:10 He mentioned the royal law and gave its contents; he mentioned the whole law and gave samples of its contents, is this hard to see? Now juxtapose this with these quotes from Romans 3 and get a better, scriptural understanding of James' context! Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall NO flseh be justified in His sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin Romans 3:20 Does this sound like someone about to ask people to keep the law to be saved? I trow not! 2. But now, the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, BEING WITNESSED BY THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS; even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ!!! Romans 3:21,22a
Are we justified by faith or by keeping the law? Answer with scriptural reference to back up. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by broswilli: 11:24am On Mar 04, 2016 |
Philadelphia: Igbo's don't have a seventh day. Igbo's have a four day week. Whetever is called seventh day is a recent development by the early christian missionaries. Actually the sabbath is not really a day it is a concept. Because the almighty God is still observing his sabbath even till this moment. That sabbath will end after everything in the book of revelation comes to pass after which a new day will begin. God wants us to enter into his rest Hebrews 4:1-10 |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Philadelphia: 11:41am On Mar 04, 2016 |
broswilli: What part of igbo are you from? Are you a traditionist or a Christian? Or. The early Christians developed what is called seventh-day; is it different from what I quoted? If it is then tell me a day give it'd meaning. You say the Sabbath is not a day but a concept, prove this from the bible but be sure to understand this "Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.". Where did you see "comcept"? God is observing the Sabbath as you said but which? The "day" or the "concept"? You say the Sabbath will end after everything in Revelation would come to pass but see what "Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD." God wants us to enter His "rest". What is this "rest"? Mind you, "Sabbath" means "rest". Answer all these questions I asked you. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Philadelphia: 11:44am On Mar 04, 2016 |
Scholar8200: You still haven't answered my question. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Nobody: 12:12pm On Mar 04, 2016 |
Philadelphia: [b]Lets not make it personal. Lets share scriptural facts without throwing trumplike jabs. God introduced this fundamental division of time on the first “day” of the period during which he prepared the earth for mankind, when diffused light evidently penetrated the swaddling bands, thus causing the moisture-covered earth to experience its first day and night as it rotated on its axis through the light of the sun. “God brought about a division between the light and the darkness. And God began calling the light Day, but the darkness he called Night.” (Ge 1:4, 5) Here the word “Day” refers to the daylight hours in contrast with the nighttime. However, the record thereafter goes on to use the word “day” to refer to other units of time of varying length. In both the Hebrew and the Greek Scriptures, the word “day” (Heb., yohm; Gr., he·meʹra) is used in a literal and in a figurative or even symbolic sense. A solar day, the fundamental unit of time, is established by one complete rotation of the earth on its axis, as from the time the sun leaves a meridian, the highest point it attains at midday, until it returns to it. This solar or civil day is currently divided into two periods of 12 hours each. The forenoon period is indicated by the Latin ante meridiem (a.m.) and the afternoon period by the Latin post meridiem (p.m.). However, in Bible times various other methods were used for dividing the day. The Hebrews began their day in the evening, after sunset, and ended it the next day at sunset. The day, therefore, ran from evening to evening. “From evening to evening you should observe your sabbath.” (Le 23:32) This follows the pattern of Jehovah’s creative days, as indicated at Genesis 1:5: “There came to be evening and there came to be morning, a first day.”—Compare Da 8:14. The Hebrews were not the only ones who reckoned a day from evening to evening; the Phoenicians, Numidians, and Athenians also did so. The Babylonians, on the other hand, counted the day from sunrise to sunrise; while the Egyptians and the Romans reckoned it from midnight to midnight (as is commonly done today). Although the Hebrews officially began their day in the evening, they sometimes spoke of it as if beginning in the morning. For example, Leviticus 7:15 says: “The flesh of the thanksgiving sacrifice of his communion sacrifices is to be eaten on the day of his offering. He must not save up any of it until morning.” This usage was doubtless simply a matter of convenience of expression, to indicate overnight. As mentioned in the creation account, the daylight period is also called day. (Ge 1:5; 8:22) In the Bible it is divided up into natural periods: the morning twilight or morning darkness, just before the day’s beginning (Ps 119:147; 1Sa 30:17); the rising of the sun or dawning (Job 3:9); the morning (Ge 24:54); noon or midday (De 28:29; 1Ki 18:27; Isa 16:3; Ac 22:6); the time of the sunset, marking the day’s close (Ge 15:12; Jos 8:29); and the evening twilight or evening darkness (2Ki 7:5, 7). The times for making certain offerings or the burning of incense by the priests were also time periods known to the people.—1Ki 18:29, 36; Lu 1:10.[/b] |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Nobody: 12:16pm On Mar 04, 2016 |
[b]In prophecy a day is at times used to stand for one year. This can be noted at Ezekiel 4:6: “You must lie upon your right side in the second case, and you must carry the error of the house of Judah forty days. A day for a year, a day for a year, is what I have given you.”—See also Nu 14:34. Certain specific numbers of days given in connection with prophecies are: three and a half days (Re 11:9); 10 days (Re 2:10); 40 days (Eze 4:6); 390 days (Eze 4:5); 1,260 days (Re 11:3; 12:6); 1,290 days (Da 12:11); 1,335 days (Da 12:12); and 2,300 days (Da 8:14). The term “day(s)” is also used with reference to a time period contemporaneous with a particular person, as for example, “the days of Noah” and “the days of Lot.”—Lu 17:26-30; Isa 1:1. Other cases where the word “day” is used in a flexible or figurative sense are: “the day of God’s creating Adam” (Ge 5:1), “the day of Jehovah” (Zep 1:7), the “day of fury” (Zep 1:15), “the day of salvation” (2Co 6:2), “the day of judgment” (2Pe 3:7), “the great day of God the Almighty” (Re 16:14), and others. This flexible use of the word “day” to express units of time of varying length is clearly evident in the Genesis account of creation. Therein is set forth a week of six creative days followed by a seventh day of rest. The week assigned for observance by the Jews under the Law covenant given them by God was a miniature copy of that creative week. (Ex 20:8-11) In the Scriptural record the account of each of the six creative days concludes with the statement: “And there came to be evening and there came to be morning” a first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth day. (Ge 1:5, 8, 13, 19, 23, 31) The seventh day, however, does not have this ending, indicating that this period, during which God has been resting from his creative works toward the earth, continued on. At Hebrews 4:1-10 the apostle Paul indicated that God’s rest day was still continuing in his generation, and that was more than 4,000 years after that seventh-day rest period began. This makes it evident that each creative day, or work period, was at least thousands of years in length. As A Religious Encyclopædia (Vol. I, p. 613) observes: “The days of creation were creative days, stages in the process, but not days of twenty-four hours each.”—Edited by P. Schaff, 1894. The entire period of the six time units or creative “days” dedicated to the preparation of planet Earth is summed up in one all-embracing “day” at Genesis 2:4: “This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.” Man’s situation does not compare with that of the Creator, who does not reside within our solar system and who is not affected by its various cycles and orbits. Of God, who is from time indefinite to time indefinite, the psalmist says: “For a thousand years are in your eyes but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch during the night.” (Ps 90:2, 4) Correspondingly, the apostle Peter writes that “one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.” (2Pe 3: For man, a 1,000-year period represents some 365,242 individual time units of day and night, but to the Creator it can be just one unbroken time period in which he begins the carrying out of some purposeful activity and brings it on to its successful conclusion, much as a man begins a task in the morning and concludes it by the day’s end. Jehovah is the Originator of our universe in which time, space, motion, mass, and energy have all been proved to be inescapably interrelated. He controls them all according to his purpose, and in dealing with his creatures on earth he makes definite time appointments for his own actions toward them, right down to the “day and hour.” (Mt 24:36; Ga 4:4) He keeps such appointments with the utmost punctuality.[/b] |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Philadelphia: 4:31pm On Mar 04, 2016 |
PEACE BE UNTO YOU. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 5:15pm On Mar 04, 2016 |
Scholar8200: LOL. Why is this question hard for you to answer? Why do you want me to provide a Bible verse? For all your knowledge of the Bible and its teachings, haven't you the slightest of ideas whether Jesus Christ obeyed the 10 Commandments when He was on earth or not? Indeed, they search the Scriptures but they still don't know who the Scriptures are talking about (Jn. 5:39). I still want you to give me the answer you would give someone who doesn't know Jesus: Did Jesus Christ obey the 10 Commandments of GOD when He was on earth? Yes or No? 1 Like |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Scholar8200(m): 5:20pm On Mar 04, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:That is because I can only say what the bible says viz Jesus came to fulfil the Law and Prophets, no more, no less! Now why were the pharisees always at loggerheads with Him as regards the sabbath? Why did Jesus call Himself the Lord of the sabbath? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by DoctorAlien(m): 5:24pm On Mar 04, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Answer my question with yes or no and I will answer your own questions: Did Jesus Christ obey the 10 Commandments of GOD when He was on earth? |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Nobody: 5:53pm On Mar 04, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Lol, what else do you hv to say than to run. Otherwise u wud hv shown me how many people u ve killed as d law stipulates or d capital punishment was not part of d law. Smh for u. |
Re: 1 Million Naira To Whoever Can Prove Any Of The Following by Kobojunkie: 5:53am On Jun 02, 2021 |
DoctorAlien:All those who follow Jesus Christ are not followers of the 10 commandments, including the other 603 commandments you omitted from that list, for we are called by a new Law, Jesus Christ, and a new name, Sons of God, heirs to the Kingdom of God. |
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