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Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by lezz(m): 7:13pm On Mar 09, 2016
YelloweWest:
What if your will is contested and thrown out by the court?
And even if it is not contested, the native law and custom of your place will be in place till the determination of the court case!
What then happens to your wife and kids in the interim? ?
I'll always ensure in making a valid will. There's nothing to invalidate a valid will by a testator.

A valid will overrides all customs and traditions as long as it isn't repugnant to good conscience, justice and equity
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by hedonistic: 7:18pm On Mar 09, 2016
MsGlobalwonder:
women useless? You mean every woman you know is useless? Your mum,aunt,sisters, daughters (in view perhaps)... woow. That's terrible of them.
You're the poster girl of uselessness, and it is clearly genetic. Your mother and every female in your bloodline are afflicted. No wonder your father is a hapless cuckold. Filthy thing.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by YelloweWest: 7:18pm On Mar 09, 2016
MsGlobalwonder:
thank you! To back up their irresponsibilities. I pity women that fall for such scams. Hehhe.
No need to pity! Men with this type of reasoning end up with women who will poison them...
How can you get married and still claim "my money " isn't it supposed to be jointly owned in a marriage? Why then does she pack from her father's house to the man place and change her name?

It's really sad the way our young men think and I think we mothers should do more in educating our sons about marriage not just our daughters.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by YelloweWest: 7:20pm On Mar 09, 2016
lezz:
I'll always ensure in making a valid will. There's nothing to invalidate a valid will by a testator.

A valid will overrides all customs and traditions as long as it isn't repugnant to good conscience, justice and equity
Ok, still while the validity is being tested in court, what happens to your immediate family?

My husband and I bought a property recently where the will was thrown out by the testator kids.
Basically testator died in 2011 buried in 2013. He had several children with different women. 9 of the 10 kids agreed to sell the property and went for letter of administration not knowing there was a will. My husband paid 50% of the total sum to them. Only for one of them to say that there is a will more that 4years after the man died!
Of course we took possession of the property and the matter is still in court. Do you have any idea how long such a matter will linger? My husband and I have nothing to lose cos we have only paid 50%. The other 50% is somewhere incurring interest for us. If the matter likes let it stay for the next 20years we won't pay a dime more and if judgment does not favour us we can always invoke the indemnity clause and get our 50% back!

I'm a lawyer I see cases like this everyday... here it's between siblings, most of the time it's between the widow and her husbands brothers.

Is that what you want?
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by lezz(m): 7:25pm On Mar 09, 2016
YelloweWest:
Ok, still while the validity is being tested in court, what happens to your immediate family?
Nothing happens!!! Even if I married her statutorily, she'll still seek legal remedies if relations of mine became heady as she will have to do during the validation of the will.

Mind you, a Will can only go through validity test when contested.

Who the _fuck is going to contest that ?

My relatives? Not a chance. If they did, they'll also fight her statutory marriage or not.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by hedonistic: 7:27pm On Mar 09, 2016
And when either party decides to divorce, the dirty details would be revealed on Nairaland due to court proceedings. Oh "I am divorcing my husband because he assaulted my lover"! Or" I am divorcing my wife because I caught her sleeping with our neighbour. Lol. Who has time for such rubbish? Not me. Push the Bitch out of your house and return her bride price. End of story. If you have kids, ascertain their true paternity, and then and ONLY THEN, provide for your kids.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Excuzeme: 7:28pm On Mar 09, 2016
Fanirandele:
The law will give primary custody to whoever is deemed to be in the best position to take care of the children while the other party will get visitation rights. It ends up being women more because they are usually the ones who have been doing most of the caring while married e.g bathing, cooking, homework e.t.c so it's easier for them to be able to carry on versus the judge giving the kids to a man who may never have changed diapers before or cooked for the children. Men who are hands on with their children while married are better prepared to take on that responsibility full time but they are few. Nothing wrong with paying child support, why would anyone not want to keep his/ her financial responsibilities towards their children angry Either married or not, both parents still have responsibities towards the children and a major part of that is financial. I don't believe alimony is given to spouses in Nigeria. Divorce laws are actually pretty much in the man's favor here because even when the children are with the woman many dead irresponsible men still get out of paying child support since there is really no system in place which means many divorced women end up as the major financial providers for the children and in many cases sef they are the sole financial providers.
Every man worth his "balls" will like to and must be willing to support their own children...born from their own Blockus! grin

I know most Nigerian fathers are to attached to their children (and lineage continuity!) grin not to want to take care of their children, when both parents separate/divorce.

The Problem is with Women who use such Children as an ATM, to get undeserved money from the husband, which is then wasted on the next Boy friend they pick! Most go on cloth and Jewellery binge (while over-trying to attract another suitor! grin )
Its not that rampant in Nigeria yet but you need to go overseas and see how women have abused such position!

Infact, it has become a lucrative business, to marry today, bid your time while the Husband acquire a house, divorce him tomorrow, tak the house and he get to become your "eternal source of FREE MONEY"...... since most dont spend as much as 15% of such child support, on the children!
Its always "Your father is not giving us enough money", when the children ask for anything!

UNTIL GOVT FINDS A MEANS BY WHICH CHILD SUPPORT IS EXCLUSIVELY ONLY TO BE SPENT ON THE CHILDREN, WOMEN WILL CONTINUE TO GET ENCOURAGED TO BREAK MARRIAGES!


Just tell her that she wont be collecting a dime form the man and you would see how most of them will change their mind about divorcing!
grin grin undecided
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Sunymoore(m): 7:33pm On Mar 09, 2016
MsGlobalwonder:
lool. You intend to marry a biatchhh. Good for you .you don't want to go to registry so you can wake up one morning, throw her out after she has stayed with you through thick and thin for 20yrs? Lool. Funny. People like you eventually get ur match. All the best in your quest bro.
Look lady, I'm a responsible man! But being responsible doesn't make me a fool... So my money stays with me... If I ever marry, I'll treat my wife responsibly but I'll not allow her to go with wealth... I think that's not too much to ask?
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Excuzeme: 7:33pm On Mar 09, 2016
lezz:
I'll always ensure in making a valid will. There's nothing to invalidate a valid will by a testator.

A valid will overrides all customs and traditions as long as it isn't repugnant to good conscience, justice and equity
At the bolded.

The "Will" is supposed to be the choice of how the writer wants his assets shared, on his demise.
Everyone is not going to like it anyway, especially those who are left out.

So, How does it become repugnant to good conscience, or even equity, if that is the way the owner of the property wants it shared?

For example, if a father decides he wants to will his houses to charity because he thinks his children are just waiting for it, instead of being hard working?

Tnx.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by YelloweWest: 7:37pm On Mar 09, 2016
lezz:
Nothing happens!!! Even if I married her statutorily, she'll still seek legal remedies if relations of mine became heady as she will have to do during the validation of the will.

Mind you, a Will can only go through validity test when contested.

Who the _fuck is going to contest that ?

My relatives? Not a chance. If they did, they'll also fight her statutory marriage or not.
It's near to impossible to fight a statutory marriage. There are just too many witness
If you married her statutorily and your family members want to fight her over your property, the laws stated in the Act will be in place in till determination of any matter in court.
She has no such protection under customary law.
I and my husband are both lawyers and our will only states how our property is to be shared in the event both of us die the same time. If not our property would pass to each other upon the demise of one.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Excuzeme: 7:37pm On Mar 09, 2016
Sunymoore:
Look lady, I'm a responsible man! But being responsible doesn't make me a fool... So my money stays with me... If I ever marry, I'll treat my wife responsibly but I'll not allow her to go with wealth... I think that's not too much to ask?
Question: Who is a Responsible Man?

Woman: A Foolish Man!

Man: A Smart Man!

But men are generally foolish, from the time of Adam, as such foolishness has come t be termed "Responsible"..........
so to act differently, is to be assumed Foolish!
shocked shocked undecided undecided
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by OTEGA1: 7:38pm On Mar 09, 2016
Okijajuju1:
Only foolish women will accept this fuckery of a suggestion.


SO you marry her under customary laws and leave the woman with no rights or legal protection whatsoever.. You can kick her and the kids out whenever you please and keep all your money and leave her high and dry abi?

Or when you die, you leave her at the mercies of your family to determine what portion of your asset she gets or not abi?

Of you can marry more wives and add to her and she cant do shit about it abi?

Or you can cheat on her with no consequences abi?

This is rubish cos the thinking of the woman is because she has a paper from court she can hold the man to ransom, don forget its just a paper dat can be nulified at any time.Court marriage does not garantee the lady anything. Is only love dat can garantee u .






This Thread is the dumbest thread of the year..

Women, If your Husband wants to marry you, let him do court marriage first to show he is serious before una even go do traditional. angry


The only protection a married woman has in Nigeria is her Court Marriage license. angry
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by MsGlobalwonder(f): 7:39pm On Mar 09, 2016
hedonistic:
You're the poster girl of uselessness, and it is clearly genetic. Your mother and every female in your bloodline are afflicted. No wonder your father is a hapless cuckold. Filthy thing.
hehehe. You are paranoid. You called women "useless" and I helped with the examples. You should thank me, don't be an ingrate. I'm not surprised at your outburst, I expected worse actually. I mean, what does one expect from someone who publicly refer to all women as "useless". It's the unfortunate women in your life I pity. Scratch that! I don't pity them, they deserve what they get. How much is a condom that they wasted time and resources into someone that publicly put them to shame? Keep ranting son. Cheers! kiss
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by 2good(m): 7:41pm On Mar 09, 2016
YelloweWest:
Whathuh Then once a spouse dies without a will his or her property passes to the surviving spouse automatically! That is if you are married under the Act.

If you have a will without being married under the Act, your brothers will frustrate the surviving spouse with court cases, meanwhile the native law and custom of the man will be in place in till the determination of the court case which will take years...
In other words your immediate family is doomed!
Do not argue with me. When my dad was alive, I was a signatory to his account, meaning I could sign his cheque and be given money by the bank without him co signing. After he died, I made the mistake of telling the bank that he is late and that was it. They refuse my withdrawal from his account that day. The money in his account will remained locked for the next 5 years before we were able to unlock the money and guess what? My father did not do a court wedding meaning my mum doesn't have any marriage certificate.
Be sure of what you say in the public especially if you have no clue about it.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by MsGlobalwonder(f): 7:45pm On Mar 09, 2016
YelloweWest:
No need to pity! Men with this type of reasoning end up with women who will poison them...
How can you get married and still claim "my money " isn't it supposed to be jointly owned in a marriage? Why then does she pack from her father's house to the man place and change her name?

It's really sad the way our young men think and I think we mothers should do more in educating our sons about marriage not just our daughters.
well said. They always meet their match!
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by YelloweWest: 7:50pm On Mar 09, 2016
2good:
Do not argue with me. When my dad was alive, I was a signatory to his account, meaning I could sign his cheque and be given money by the bank without him co signing. After he died, I made the mistake of telling the bank that he is late and that was it. They refuse my withdrawal from his account that day. The money in his account will remained locked for the next 5 years before we were able to unlock the money and guess what? My father did not do a court wedding meaning my mum doesn't have any marriage certificate.
Be sure of what you say in the public especially if you have no clue about it.
Excuse me?? Pls mind what you say if you are ignorant to the law. If you were coming signatory to your dad's account the bank had no right to stop you!
If your parents were married under the Act once u obtain letter administration all your dad's property would have passed to your mum! The law protects a surviving spouse WHO IS MARRIED UNDER THE ACT! WITHOUT A WILL!
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Excuzeme: 7:50pm On Mar 09, 2016
YelloweWest:
It's near to impossible to fight a statutory marriage. There are just too many witness

But there are also more than enough witnesses, in say a Traditional Marriage?


I think the idea of statutory marriage (as against Traditional/Customary) holds sway because it serves the purpose of "enforcing monogamy" while making the decision of assets at death, easier for the courts to adjudicate.

My opinion though.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by lezz(m): 7:52pm On Mar 09, 2016
Excuzeme:
At the bolded.

The "Will" is supposed to be the choice of how the writer wants his assets shared, on his demise.
Everyone is not going to like it anyway, especially those who are left out.

So, How does it become repugnant to good conscience, or even equity, if that is the way the owner of the property wants it shared?





For example, if a father decides he wants to will his houses to charity because he thinks his children are just waiting for it, instead of being hard working?

Tnx.
Let me begin by saying the term good conscience, justice, and equity are absolute legal terms and should not be taken for its surface meaning.

If a teststor, in this case a father, wills all of his estate off to a charity agency, and his family never abandoned him and actually sticked with him through thick and thin, it becomes legally repugnant to good conscience, the Will can be legally contested to seek redress.....
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Gh0stFreak: 7:56pm On Mar 09, 2016
kay29000:
Alimony? It is not like that in Naija o! This words you are using is foreign to a typical Nigerian.
who told you that,my uncle's wife filed for divorce with the help of her lawyer sister and got away with the daughter,7million naira and a car.
mehn the thing pain me no be small.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Cmiller(m): 8:01pm On Mar 09, 2016
For here in Nigeria, once she divorces her husband she gets to keep her wedding ring....unless the ex-husband good sha
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Excuzeme: 8:01pm On Mar 09, 2016
lezz:
Let me begin by saying the term good conscience, justice, and equity are absolute legal terms and should not be taken for its surface meaning.

If a teststor, in this case a father, wills all of his estate off to a charity agency, and his family never abandoned him and actually sticked with him through thick and thin, it becomes legally repugnant to good conscience, the Will can be legally contested to seek redress.....
Thank you.

Let me stretch it a bit further..
In other words, it is assumed ab initio, that a WILL shall distribute the property left behind, to the immediate family members first, before others?

I am assuming the idea of a WILL is to ensure you can give what belongs to you (your property, in your name) to whoever you feel like, as you wish?
But here, you are saying that idea is not sacrosanct an its more of a privilege!?

If after your death, (when you are in no position to argue it), someone else says "I stuck with him" though the years, they then can reverse the decision you made, in "good sense".... without your input!

Is this not why most extended family members 'lay-in-wait' till a man dies, to then swoop on his wife and kids and begin to fight them, even when the man left a WILL? shocked shocked
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by MsGlobalwonder(f): 8:01pm On Mar 09, 2016
Sunymoore:
Look lady, I'm a responsible man! But being responsible doesn't make me a fool... So my money stays with me... If I ever marry, I'll treat my wife responsibly but I'll not allow her to go with wealth... I think that's not too much to ask?
Go with your wealth? How? She bore you kids. she stayed with you when you had nothing. Do you even know what it is to be married? A soul-mate, a life-partner. You become one! And who says a woman can't make her own money while married? I'm just against the notion of a man saying he won't go to the registry. For our clime, marriage doesn't favor the woman on it's own. So, saying no registy means you want a slave. Literally. This is because, in laws can interfere and even send the woman packing out leaving her high and dry. If a woman can stay with you, bear your kids, stop her career and the life she has always craved to be married to you. What is money? What is alimony? Why marry someone you don't trust enough to even give all your estates to in the first place? Just saying..
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Cmiller(m): 8:04pm On Mar 09, 2016
Gh0stFreak:
who told you that,my uncle's wife filed for divorce with the help of her lawyer sister and got away with the daughter,7million naira and a car.
mehn the thing pain me no be small.
that happened because they did court marriage..

For me na trad and church wedding is the only option #NoCourtMarriage or you go cry wella, our gehs badt goor
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Cmiller(m): 8:07pm On Mar 09, 2016
MsGlobalwonder:
Go with your wealth? How? She bore you kids. she stayed with you when you had nothing. Do you even know what it is to be married? A soul-mate, a life-partner. You become one! And who says a woman can't make her own money while married? I'm just against the notion of a man saying he won't go to the registry. For our clime, marriage doesn't favor the woman on it's own. So, saying no registy means you want a slave. Literally. This is because, in laws can interfere and even send the woman packing out leaving her high and dry. If a woman can stay with you, bear your kids, stop her career and the life she has always craved to be married to you. What is money? What is alimony? Why marry someone you don't trust enough to even give all your estates to in the first place? Just saying..
what if she is more richer than her husband, will she want to split her wealth with him?or is spliting of wealth only meant for the man alone during divorce?
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by AVRecruit(op): 8:07pm On Mar 09, 2016
YelloweWest:
No need to pity! Men with this type of reasoning end up with women who will poison them...
How can you get married and still claim "my money " isn't it supposed to be jointly owned in a marriage? Why then does she pack from her father's house to the man place and change her name?

It's really sad the way our young men think and I think we mothers should do more in educating our sons about marriage not just our daughters.
arent women of today independent?
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Sunnypar(m): 8:07pm On Mar 09, 2016
Sunnynwa:
Are you for real?

When there are thousands out there willing even to cohabit without any formalities.
Did you say thousands or millions?
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Sunnypar(m): 8:09pm On Mar 09, 2016
The babymama trend is alarming and the rate of pissed of women on Nairaland and in the society is alarming.
udemzyudex:
Is like you're not in this part of the world, you think guys having baby mamas everywhere are f**ls? The trend is rising, and believe me in the next 10years to come, you will hardly hear about marriage....

After all what's the essence of marriage if not continue your generation..



If she is waiting for court marriage, she go wait tire....
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by lezz(m):
YelloweWest:
It's near to impossible to fight a statutory marriage. There are just too many witness
If you married her statutorily and your family members want to fight her over your property, the laws stated in the Act will be in place in till determination of any matter in court.
She has no such protection under customary law.
I and my husband are both lawyers and our will only states how our property is to be shared in the event both of us die the same time. If not our property would pass to each other upon the demise of one.
Let me confess, I didn't read beyond the first line of impossibility of fighting statutory marriage....I just finished off from a hard day at the office and I'm unwinding in a local bar. I'm debating with you with less than 40% of my brain controlled by less than 50% of my sobriety.

A statutory marriage isn't immune from the evil antics of greedy relations. Law suites can drag for ages by injunctions and other legal hurdles further than a Will.

I don't favour statutory marriages, it doesn't give a man much options if the wife falls out of love in old age.

Will can always be written and rewritten to reflect real-time changes.

Bring it on, _fuck this beer!!!
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Sunnypar(m): 8:10pm On Mar 09, 2016
Your head dey there.
lezz:
Well taken point.

Only in Nigeria do couples have to fulfill traditional, statutory and church marriages before a man is deemed to have married his wife in completion!

Complete waste of energy, time and resources!!!

Many men have been lured by their wives into statutory/court marriages after concluding tradition and church marriage rites.

And without knowing the intricacies and legal obligations of court marriages, they have plunged into the deeps of murky, legal waters!

Marriages should be deemed complete after traditional requirements have been completed!

Women pressure men for white wedding just to fulfill their Cinderella dreams!

The more dangerous and daring wives coerce their husbands into statutory marriages as life insurance policies.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Sunnypar(m): 8:11pm On Mar 09, 2016
YelloweWest:
Well said madam. Cos the motivating factor why any man would shy away from court marriage is so that he can behave any how he pleases without any consequences!
Nature has a way of dealing with them...
Nigerian men have been behaving as they please form time immemorial.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by lezz(m): 8:13pm On Mar 09, 2016
Excuzeme:
Thank you.

Let me stretch it a bit further..
In other words, it is assumed ab initio, that a WILL shall distribute the property left behind, to the immediate family members first, before others?

I am assuming the idea of a WILL is to ensure you can give what belongs to you (your property, in your name) to whoever you feel like, as you wish?
But here, you are saying that idea is not sacrosanct an its more of a privilege!?

If after your death, (when you are in no position to argue it), someone else says "I stuck with him" though the years, they then can reverse the decision you made, in "good sense".... without your input!

Is this not why most extended family members 'lay-in-wait' till a man dies, to then swoop on his wife and kids and begin to fight them, even when the man left a WILL? shocked shocked
My legal e-soldier!!!

Please carry on and untangle me from the ceasless knots of my persistent posers!!!

She isn't yielding grin grin grin

My beer is beginning to play tricks on my tongue already.
Re: Why Men Should Only Do Traditional Marriage by Okijajuju1(m): 8:13pm On Mar 09, 2016
OTEGA1:
This is rubish cos the thinking of the woman is because she has a paper from court she can hold the man to ransom, don forget its just a paper dat can be nulified at any time.Court marriage does not garantee the lady anything. Is only love dat can garantee u .
For you to call a federal marriage license "just a paper" shows you have no idea what you are talking about.

I advice you to keep quiet and learn from this thread.. A federal marriage license is more than just a piece of paper. Ask men who have suffered the consequence how powerful that paper really is.
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