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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Eruditor: 1:35pm On Mar 12, 2016
mfm04622:


Is there punishment in Nigerian law for involuntary manslaughter? There is. Was so tried in a competent court of law? Yes. Was she found guilty? Yes. Was she sentenced? Yes, to 5 years OR a fine of 100,0000. There is no fine for manslaughter in Nigerian law! So the State Govt appealed against the fine. Now she has been ordered to serve her time. What is wrong in the State appealing against unlawful order by the trial court? Let her serve her punishment for manslaughter as envisaged by the court. Simple

The state appealing the sentence is what I find most incredulous. It beggars reasoning. Once she was seen as guilty by the court that is when the state should have made a case for the sentence. If after the sentence, the state feels she deserved more, then to me that is just reckless pandering by the court. How can the court claim there is no fine for manslaughter in Nigerian law? So if she had a burst tyre that caused her to swerve and kill the victim, she should not pay a fine but instead go to jail for 5 years and that's justice?

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by prestige2013: 1:36pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


I said she committed a crime. I agreed she did. But not all crimes are the same. Her punishment should be worthy of the crime not over it. 5 years after so many years is harsh. A fine is the only thing that can make a difference.


That is why we have more CRIME when fine is been seen as the punishment. I dont know the yardstick for the 5 years imprisonment but I support her imprisonment so other well do men can learn.

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Eruditor: 1:38pm On Mar 12, 2016
prestige2013:



That is why we have more CRIME when fine is been seen as the punishment. I dont know the yardstick for the 5 years imprisonment but I support her imprisonment so other well do men can learn.

I understand you, but I think the sentence is harsh. Brandy, the American singer, had the same issue and she didn't go to jail.
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by shehuolayinka(m): 1:40pm On Mar 12, 2016
Mumu is worrying you. Your write-up shows the kind of person you are.

Eruditor:


Emotive trash.

You even called the deceased "Innocent". What is to say he wasn't on his way to kill a debtor or that he would not have an accident that would have taken someone else's life say 2 months after that day?

Did Ibinabo set out on that very day to kill him?

So his family lost a breadwinner, a brother, father, one who gave 7 years of his life to becoming a doctor, but her family won't lose anybody when she goes to jail? Her husband won't lose a wife? Her kids won't lose a mum?

I thought you were saying what is sauce for the Goose is sauce for the Gander? Why the glaring hypocrisy?

The only thing that can be determined as justice will be what the law has to say about involuntary manslaughter. If the option of a fine was available and the first court issued that, then there is no need for the emotional hot air you are spewing.

She is guilty of the crime, but should not be a reckless victim of judicial eye-service and pandering.

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by BodyKiss(m): 1:43pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


You never had one to begin with. Congratulations.

Dude, you should bury your head in shame.

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Nobody: 1:43pm On Mar 12, 2016
gboss4sure:


Are you guys not ashamed of bringing IPOB into issues that have nothing to do with them?

Why is IPOB giving people like you headache?

Not headache Son, IPOB is synonymous with evil!!!

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Nobody: 1:44pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


I would have been surprised if a sentence depicting any form of intelligence made its way into your post.

NL would have been better if your evil mother refused to accept the trash spermatozoa spewed out by your dog father!!!

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by contactlenz: 1:44pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


Emotive trash.

You even called the deceased "Innocent". What is to say he wasn't on his way to kill a debtor or that he would not have an accident that would have taken someone else's life say 2 months after that day?

Did Ibinabo set out on that very day to kill him?

So his family lost a breadwinner, a brother, father, one who gave 7 years of his life to becoming a doctor, but her family won't lose anybody when she goes to jail? Her husband won't lose a wife? Her kids won't lose a mum?

I thought you were saying what is sauce for the Goose is sauce for the Gander? Why the glaring hypocrisy?

The only thing that can be determined as justice will be what the law has to say about involuntary manslaughter. If the option of a fine was available and the first court issued that, then there is no need for the emotional hot air you are spewing.

She is guilty of the crime, but should not be a reckless victim of judicial eye-service and pandering.


How would you feel if the incident had happened to your family's breadwinner? Let the law take its place, it is no respecter of anyone irrespective of one's status, position or class. You do the crime, you do the time

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Fanirandele: 1:47pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


I think you are getting things conflated. Rapists and murderers don't commit their crimes by happenstance, that's why they are charged under the provisions of first degree murder or rape cases. In her case, she committed involuntary manslaughter. She did not set out to have him killed, her negligence and carelessness caused his death.

Should the law take it's toll, sure, but not under emotive guises. That's my argument. Did she flee the scene? Did she blame the deceased? Did she protest her innocence? The answer to all these questions is NO.

Yet what you hear in the media space is that she wasn't acting remorseful because she posts pics of her daughter in the USA or that she attends functions and events? Does this make sense to you?

She didn't kill him on purpose which is why she's getting 5yrs as opposed to what actual murderers get. At the end of the day her lack of responsibility led to the death of a man . The sentence is for manslaughter which is what she's been found guilty of , there is no emotions there. The law is not interested in if she attended parties or not, when found guilty of a crime there's usually a minimum and maximum sentence applicable depending on the crime. The judge decides based in that,I don't believe she's even been given the maximum sentence which shows they took things into consideration .

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Eruditor: 1:47pm On Mar 12, 2016
contactlenz:
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How would you feel if the incident had happened to your family's breadwinner? Let the law take its place, it is no respecter of anyone irrespective of one's status, position or class. You do the crime, you do the time[b]


How would you feel if the incident had happened to your family's breadwinner? Let the law take its place, it is no respecter of anyone irrespective of one's status, position or class. You do the crime, you do the time



How would you feel if the incident had happened to your family's breadwinner? Let the[b] law[/b] take its[b] course, [/b] it is no respecter of anyone irrespective of one's status, position or class. You do the crime, you do the time.

So if she goes to jail then what? My family's breadwinner now comes back or what?
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Fanirandele: 1:48pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


I understand you, but I think the sentence is harsh. Brandy, the American singer, had the same issue and she didn't go to jail.

Brandy was not drunk or at least they were not able to prove that but Ibinabo was proven to be drunk so it's different. If she had the accident while sober the sentencing would have been more lenient. The west is very strict on sentences for manslaughter while drunk driving

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Nobody: 1:49pm On Mar 12, 2016
JayJohnson:


Not headache Son, IPOB is synonymous with evil!!!

Evil because they ask to be left out of Nigeria?

Or evil because they are killing people like boko haram and fulani herdsmen?

Explain what makes them evil GrandPa
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Fanirandele: 1:50pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


So if she goes to jail then what? My family's breadwinner now comes back or what?

When murderers go to jail it does not bring the dead back, when rapists go to jail it does not reverse the rape. The point of law is to hold people responsible for their actions so 2mwr someone else will think twice before driving drunk. If there are no consequences everyone can as well go around driving drunk and killing people

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Eruditor: 1:51pm On Mar 12, 2016
Fanirandele:


She didn't kill him on purpose which is why she's getting 5yrs as opposed to what actual murderers get. At the end of the day her lack of responsibility led to the death of a man . The sentence is for manslaughter which is what she's been found guilty of , there is no emotions there. The law is not interested in if she attended parties or not, when found guilty of a crime there's usually a minimum and maximum sentence applicable depending on the crime. The judge decides based in that,I don't believe she's even been given the maximum sentence which shows they took things into consideration .

Not all manslaughter cases are for 5 years. The law is not a mechanical tool that must turn in one direction. You can't just look at the impact it made to the victim's family. Her's has to be considered too.

And we wonder why people would rather hit and run than stay, own up to the crime and be sentenced for 5 years.
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Eruditor: 1:53pm On Mar 12, 2016
Fanirandele:


When murderers go to jail it does not bring the dead back, when rapists go to jail it does not reverse the rape. The point of law is to hold people responsible for their actions so 2mwr someone else will think twice before driving drunk. If there are no consequences everyone can as well go around driving drunk and killing people

The essence of giving murderers death or life sentences is the law's way of saying "since you deliberately took another man's life, we are deliberately taking yours". The law should always be interpreted by the spirit behind it and not mechanically.
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by bayulll011(m): 1:53pm On Mar 12, 2016
Babalegba:
This is the kind of post that makes me think that many Nigerians should not be classified as homo sapiens


U are wrong,most of them should be classified Homo Stupid
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Fanirandele: 1:54pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


Not all manslaughter cases are for 5 years. The law is not a mechanical tool that must turn in one direction. You can't just look at the impact it made to the victim's family. Her's has to be considered too.

And we wonder why people would rather hit and run than stay, own up to the crime and be sentenced for 5 years.

There is a range of sentencing for each crime and the judge will decides on sentencing based on the particulars of the case. It's the perpetrators choice to impact negatively on their family by their action unlike the victim. The judge listened to everything and made his judgement based on evidence. The were witnesses so she couldn't run away, people identified her.

By the way the law is more lenient on those who have accidents while not drinking. Drunk driving is a decision and not a mistake

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by contactlenz: 1:54pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


So if she goes to jail then what? My family's breadwinner now comes back or what?

It will deserve as deterrence for others who choose to follow that path. BTW, she was never remorseful, this was evident in her constant partying and clubbing.
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Fanirandele: 1:56pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


The essence of giving murderers death or life sentences is the law's way of saying "since you deliberately took another man's life, we are deliberately taking yours". The law should always be interpreted by the spirit behind it and not mechanically.

It's also to serve as a deterrent to others, if you choose to take the life of others you will lose yours also. Since she chose to endanger the life of other road users by choosing to drive drunk the law has a right to say let her loose her freedom for 5years

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Eruditor: 1:56pm On Mar 12, 2016
Fanirandele:


Brandy was not drunk or at least they were not able to prove that but Ibinabo was proven to be drunk so it's different. If she had the accident while sober the sentencing would have been more lenient. The west is very strict on sentences for manslaughter while drunk driving

For people who have a habit of getting drunk (and it must be proved by the prosecution), yes. Apart from beer-parlour gossip we cannot ascertain that is the case with Ibinabo. Brandy was over speeding and I am very sure the American law frowns upon overspeeding that led to the death of someone else.
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Eruditor: 1:58pm On Mar 12, 2016
Fanirandele:


There is a range of sentencing for each crime and the judge will decides on sentencing based on the particulars of the case. It's the perpetrators choice to impact negatively on their family by their action unlike the victim. The judge listened to everything and made his judgement based on evidence. The were witnesses so she couldn't run away, people identified her.

By the way the law is more lenient on those who have accidents while not drinking. Drunk driving is a decision and not a mistake

Accidents that happen from drink-driving are accidents and not decisions. Pro causa, non causa.
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Fanirandele: 1:59pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


For people who have a habit of getting drunk (and it must be proved by the prosecution), yes. Apart from beer-parlour gossip we cannot ascertain that is the case with Ibinabo. Brandy was over speeding and I am very sure the American law frowns upon overspeeding that led to the death of someone else.

It doesn't matter if you have a habit of driving drunk, any day you drive drunk you've knowingly chosen to endanger the life of others. Except someone has been caught in the last how do you even prove they drive drunk normally or not. The laws for overspending are different from the laws of drunk driving. Brandy was judged by the courts based on the particulars of her case same way Ibinabo was
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Fanirandele: 2:00pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


Accidents that happen from drink-driving are accidents and not decisions. Pro causa, non causa.

It is a decision when you choose to do something that you know endangers the ife of others . She knew the risks and decided to take it not caring about the other people on the road
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Nobody: 2:08pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


Emotive trash.

You even called the deceased "Innocent". What is to say he wasn't on his way to kill a debtor or that he would not have an accident that would have taken someone else's life say 2 months after that day?

Did Ibinabo set out on that very day to kill him?

So his family lost a breadwinner, a brother, father, one who gave 7 years of his life to becoming a doctor, but her family won't lose anybody when she goes to jail? Her husband won't lose a wife? Her kids won't lose a mum?

I thought you were saying what is sauce for the Goose is sauce for the Gander? Why the glaring hypocrisy?

The only thing that can be determined as justice will be what the law has to say about involuntary manslaughter. If the option of a fine was available and the first court issued that, then there is no need for the emotional hot air you are spewing.

She is guilty of the crime, but should not be a reckless victim of judicial eye-service and pandering.

You are highly insensitive to the plight of the deceased.

Of course he could have commited a crime two months later but did he? He may have been going out to kill a debtor, seriously?

You lot are the problem with Nigeria. Celebrities go to jail in the USA often. They serve their time and continue their lifestyle thereafter or as they wish.

This man's family will have closure only when they see justice served. They deserve that. At least Ibinabo is serving a time. She is not being sent to the grave.

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by 4nobody4every1: 2:23pm On Mar 12, 2016
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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by LeFreakSoChic(f): 2:23pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


Emotive trash.

You even called the deceased "Innocent". What is to say he wasn't on his way to kill a debtor or that he would not have an accident that would have taken someone else's life say 2 months after that day?

Did Ibinabo set out on that very day to kill him?

So his family lost a breadwinner, a brother, father, one who gave 7 years of his life to becoming a doctor, but her family won't lose anybody when she goes to jail? Her husband won't lose a wife? Her kids won't lose a mum?

I thought you were saying what is sauce for the Goose is sauce for the Gander? Why the glaring hypocrisy?

The only thing that can be determined as justice will be what the law has to say about involuntary manslaughter. If the option of a fine was available and the first court issued that, then there is no need for the emotional hot air you are spewing.

She is guilty of the crime, but should not be a reckless victim of judicial eye-service and pandering.




How about two of your family members get killed by a reckless celebrity? When It happens, come back and tell us how you feel.
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by dammilotun(m): 2:24pm On Mar 12, 2016
In civilized climes, merely driving under influence will earn you a jail time. We all pray that one day our country becomes great but we are unwilling to practice what makes for a great nation.How can you become a great nation if the law becomes emotional or double mouthed cos of influence and sentiments. She killed an human being and yet she's asking for prayers. She should go cool off in prison and wait for T.b Joshua there if found guilty too(walks away).
I rise

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Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by duduade: 2:30pm On Mar 12, 2016
Hmmmmm If she had allowed justice to have been served since she...she would have since served her sentence...and finished
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by cybriz82(m): 2:32pm On Mar 12, 2016
Hmmm yellow sisi see her fine skin.go and entertain dem in d prison with ur fine skin.
If she no b goat she wud av get close to d family ryt frm day 1 after d accident.she just drop d family like iz hot.tau justice dn drop u for prison like it ice.
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Oladat(m): 2:45pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


Emotive trash.

You even called the deceased "Innocent". What is to say he wasn't on his way to kill a debtor or that he would not have an accident that would have taken someone else's life say 2 months after that day?

Did Ibinabo set out on that very day to kill him?

So his family lost a breadwinner, a brother, father, one who gave 7 years of his life to becoming a doctor, but her family won't lose anybody when she goes to jail? Her husband won't lose a wife? Her kids won't lose a mum?

I thought you were saying what is sauce for the Goose is sauce for the Gander? Why the glaring hypocrisy?

The only thing that can be determined as justice will be what the law has to say about involuntary manslaughter. If the option of a fine was available and the first court issued that, then there is no need for the emotional hot air you are spewing.

She is guilty of the crime, but should not be a reckless victim of judicial eye-service and pandering.
is this a tongue-in-cheek statement otherwise you are insane
Re: Between Ibinabo Fiberesima And The State by Raiders: 2:49pm On Mar 12, 2016
Eruditor:


Not all manslaughter cases are for 5 years. The law is not a mechanical tool that must turn in one direction. You can't just look at the impact it made to the victim's family. Her's has to be considered too.

And we wonder why people would rather hit and run than stay, own up to the crime and be sentenced for 5 years.
I agree with you that the court should show mercy. However 5 yrs is the minimum sentenced for DUI involuntary homicide in Nigeria. The court could have sentenced her to a longer prison term but showed her mercy by giving her the minimum sentenced. I live in the US and she is lucky that she didn't the crime didn't occur in the US because she would have been sentenced to a minimum of 10 yrs for DUI accident. Anyways, I think 5 yrs is an just sentenced since she has shown some form of remorse but she should still serve her time and learn from her mistake so she don't repeat that mistake again by killing an innocent person

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