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Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by luxanne(f): 8:20pm On Mar 13, 2016
Tourshaw:


[left]Why has not any government made creating jobs a priority instead of promising roads and bridges


Are you saying construction of roads is not a way of job creation? What about the contractors of these work?

I believe this is for you Aysuccess99.

Kindly respond to all mentions @ all.
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by deepee08(m): 8:20pm On Mar 13, 2016
our leaders are not intelligent ..dats all
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by centyboy: 8:21pm On Mar 13, 2016
vanity upon vanity... cry
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Nobody: 8:23pm On Mar 13, 2016
@Neyoor, how can you say that it is not the sole responsibility of the government to provide job because probably it is not in the Constitution.
So can you tell me what's the responsibility of the government to her citizens?
The responsibility of the government to the citizens is to see to the basic welfare of her citizens which creation of employment is inclusive either directly or indirectly.


If USA and other developed countries can ensure that their citizens are gainfully employed, what stop our country, Nigeria from the following the same footstep knowing quite well that reduction of unemployment will play a lot of role in helping our economy and seeing to the betterment of the citizens.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Tourshaw: 8:23pm On Mar 13, 2016
[quote author=aysuccess99 post=43742149][b]
[left]Further more, the corruption exhibited by our government has led to unemployment. Those who are meant to use public funds for building more industries embezzle such funds for their personal use which resulted in massive increase in unemployment rate. Without going too far, Nigeria is said to be the eight most corrupt country in the world and so has high unemployment rate. Taking the case of the missing or unaccounted $20 billion at NNPC among many other corrupt practices and embezzlement carried out by our government, this funds could have been invested in infrastructures that will aid businesses which will create job openings but it is now a pity because it is the other way round. Chinua Achebe[1983] in one of the finding in his book, 'The Trouble With Nigeria' emphasized that the cult of corruption formed by our rulers, and their insatiable quest to loot the National treasury has sailed us into the 'ocean' of economic confusion and unemployment.


Embezzlement is not only applicable to Nigerian government bro. It's a world phenomenon. If there nation offers you nothing, why can't you offer yourself.
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Nobody: 8:25pm On Mar 13, 2016
@Neyoor, how can you say that it is not the sole responsibility of the government to provide job because probably it is not in the Constitution.
So can you tell me what's the responsibility of the government to her citizens?
The responsibility of the government to the citizens is to see to the basic welfare of her citizens which creation of employment is inclusive either directly or indirectly.


If USA and other developed countries can ensure that their citizens are gainfully employed, what stop our country, Nigeria from the following the same footstep knowing quite well that reduction of unemployment will play a lot of role in helping our economy and seeing to the betterment of the citizens.
Tourshaw:

[left]Why has not any government made creating jobs a priority instead of promising roads and bridges
Are you saying construction of roads is not a way of job creation? What about the contractors of these work?
@Neyoor, how can you say that it is not the sole responsibility of the government to provide job because probably it is not in the Constitution.
So can you tell me what's the responsibility of the government to her citizens?
The responsibility of the government to the citizens is to see to the basic welfare of her citizens which creation of employment is inclusive either directly or indirectly.


If USA and other developed countries can ensure that their citizens are gainfully employed, what stop our country, Nigeria from the following the same footstep knowing quite well that reduction of unemployment will play a lot of role in helping our economy and seeing to the betterment of the citizens.
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by kayseekells(m): 8:25pm On Mar 13, 2016
Tourshaw:
Topic: The government is solely to blame for
high unemployment rate in Nigeria.
Stance: Oppose

According to the National Bureau of Statistics, “each year,
about 1.8m young Nigerians enter into our already saturated labour market.” This incessant increase elicits a lot of unanswered questions as to causes and consequences. I took an envisage look from my vantage points into the situation and came up with these points but before unleashing my convincing points of view, I must register my sincere greetings to those whom it's due.

Chairman of the occasion, inexhaustible moderators, unprejudiced judges, distinguished co-debaters, my untiring readers and audience, ladies and gentlemen, good day to you all. My name is Abdulkareem Abdulmumeen Omotosho, representing the prestigious better by far University, Unilorin in this debate. And solidly opposing the motion which states that the government is solely to blame for high unemployment rate in Nigeria.
To shed more light on the topic for easy digestion of the discourse, some of the wordings in the topic is defined comprehensively thus;


Government; The body with the power to make and/or enforce laws to control a country, land area, people or organization.
Blame; censure
Unemployment; state of joblessness.
Firstly, dismal performance during undergraduate. A graduate wandering endlessly about the streets for job but unfortunately couldn't find any. He became frustrated and started blaming the government for non provision of job opportunity. And do you have any idea to why he wasn't able to secure any? Because this person graduated with a Pass grade. The point here is that before we blame government for unemployment, let's ask ourselves what we are coming out with from higher institution. There's no way one will graduate with first class or even second class upper and won't be preferred to the other who graduates with a Pass grade. We have chance to determine what we want for ourselves after school right from our tertiary institution because despite the ever increasing rate of unemployment, handful of graduates still get good jobs immediately which is as a result of their unmatched performance. Take for instance, in my school, every first class graduate is retained as lecturer. This development goes a long way in reducing the rate of unemployment.


Secondly, sheer dependency. Our youths are over depending. When a baby is born, the responsibility of his proper upbringing is sheerly saddled by the parents till he attains adulthood. This time when he should be independent on any and thinks how to fend for himself yet he still wants to transfer his welfarism from his parents to the government. This is totally uncalled. If we cannot learn to depend on ourselves, if we cannot cater for ourselves, if we see our own duty as the responsibility of others, then, we are beyond doubt, getting involved in the unemployment problem in the country.

Thirdly, laxity of entrepreneurial spirit. Graduates always crave to be someone else boss albeit they should be their own boss. Some argue that they have no knowledge of what it takes to be an entrepreneur. Others digest the fact that being an entrepreneur requires a lot of patience and taking risks which may not be bearable sometimes, coupled with the bottleneck of its yielding. Being self-employed and self established so that one will be self sustained is one of the yardsticks for reduction of unemployment in the country.


Fourthly, nonchalant attitude to petty business, Me? After these stressful years in school, I will now start another suffering by engaging myself in one small scale business. God forbids!! This is one of the causes of incessant increase in unemployment rate. Every graduate needs to be aware that little drop of rain, makes a mighty ocean. They need to know that Rome was not built in a day. Great things are not done usually in a twinkling of an eye. Today, every graduate wishes to work with Dangote. They forget he also started as an ordinary small scale businessman. Had it been Dangote never indulged in small scale business then he might not be as affluent as he is now. Petty trading doesn't only make one to be self efficient, it also endows one with self reliance.


In conclusion, I crave the indulgence of all. Having highlighted the ways the people and not the influence the most the high rate of unemployment. The panacea for the mentioned pitfalls are for students to strive hard for a an exceptional grade during their undergraduate years. Students should also be equipped with good knowledge of entrepreneurs and what it entails during their undergraduate years. Graduates are also enjoined to imbibe the ideology of petty business and stop waiting for white collar jobs which they have no idea when their wait will be over. People should also learn to take responsibilities and stop the being total reliance and dependence on the government because as there are civic rights, there are also civic duties.

My unbiased judges and my distinguished readers, having read this, you must concurred with me that for unemployment rate to reduce to infinitesimal and negligible rate, people not government should be blamed and called to order.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Tourshaw: 8:27pm On Mar 13, 2016
I'm sorry. I am experiencing seriously unfriendly network here
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Elparaiso(m): 8:28pm On Mar 13, 2016
It's a class debate?
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by mandax: 8:34pm On Mar 13, 2016
Any where in the world, govts are assessed with the level of unemployment in existence.

Hope Lai Mohammed cannot dispute this.

If APC can't lower the unemployment rate as was on May 29, 2015, it has no excuses to give for its failure.
Barack Obama and other leaders lowered their respective countries' unemployment rate after the crash of 2008
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Icecomrade: 8:36pm On Mar 13, 2016

Can we partake

Modified

Aysucess
I give kudos to your approach to this debate with a sound and comprehensive approach. Your argument shows clearly that you have proper understanding of the subject.
The subject is "The government is solely responsible for the high unemployment rate in Nigeria"

Unlike the respondents, you showed clearly that responsibility here is not only about providing employment opportunities but creating an enabling environment for would be investors or entrepreneurs to properly engage their businesses themselves and other unemployed. This has not been countered by the opposition.

Let me also lend my opinion here by stating that we have had great men in this country like Gani fahwemi graduated with pass and reaching admirable heights in their career. Emphasis on grades against creative skills, self motivation is one poor orientation limiting the capabilities of employable youths

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Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by dallyemmy: 8:37pm On Mar 13, 2016
We are all responsible! Lack of patriotism and greed!
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Tourshaw: 8:44pm On Mar 13, 2016
If USA and other developed countries can ensure that their citizens are gainfully employed, what stop our country, Nigeria from the following the same footstep knowing quite well that reduction of unemployment will play a lot of role in helping our economy and seeing to the betterment of the citizens. [/quote]

This is a blatant lie bro. There's no country, developed or underdeveloped that makes provision for job to all its citizens. Not even USA. Please, if you have evidence for that first statement, it will be appreciated, if not strike through it Sir.
Thanks for your anticipated response.
but if you need proof for mine check out that

https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/worlds-unemployment-ratescom?page=2
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Nobody: 8:44pm On Mar 13, 2016
[quote author=Tourshaw post=43744369][/quote]
Wow! It's quite laughable that you didn't complete the sentence from which you extracted that question from.

I said why do government promise roads, bridges which they do not eventually build.


In as much as construction of roads tend to provide jobs for the populace but most times, the government do not eventually undergo those constructions as promised.
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by luxanne(f): 8:50pm On Mar 13, 2016
Icecomrade:
Can we partake

Counter arguments you mean, sure.
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Nobody: 8:50pm On Mar 13, 2016
[quote author=Tourshaw post=43744369][/quote]Hmn, embezzlement may occur in most countries, but that of Nigeria is quite pathetic. Take a look at the recent arm deal scandal, missing NNPC $20 billion and many more corrupt practices. If this funds embezzle were used to improve our industries, like our refineries, Ajaokuta Steel Company, Delta Steel Company etc. I believe the unemployment rate in our country will reduce drastically because jobs will be available for the populace.
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by KingTom(m): 8:53pm On Mar 13, 2016
Hehehehe I'm loving the rebuttals I dare say this is the most interesting debate I've seen cool questions loading...
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Tourshaw: 8:54pm On Mar 13, 2016
aysuccess99:

Wow! It's quite laughable that you didn't complete the sentence from which you extracted that question from.

I said why do government promise roads, bridges which they do not eventually build.


In as much as construction of roads tend to provide jobs for the populace but most times, the government do not eventually undergo those constructions as promised.

As if none of the construction is implemented. Laughable indeed, despite the fact that I tried not to complete the statement because I knew it another flaw from you. You are arguing blindly bro. How could you jump into an incorrect conclusion that they don't finally construct the roads? For your information, endless construction is on going, check out some here.
https://www.nairaland.com/2439219/10-ongoing-mega-construction-projects
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Nobody: 8:57pm On Mar 13, 2016
Tourshaw:



If USA and other developed countries can ensure that their citizens are gainfully employed, what stop our country, Nigeria from the following the same footstep knowing quite well that reduction of unemployment will play a lot of role in helping our economy and seeing to the betterment of the citizens.

This is a blatant lie bro. There's no country, developed or underdeveloped that makes provision for job to all its citizens. Not even USA. Please, if you have evidence for that first statement, it will be appreciated, if not strike through it Sir.
Thanks for your anticipated response.
but if you need proof for mine check out that

https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/worlds-unemployment-ratescom?page=2



I did not and will not say that there's a nation that can provide jobs for all her citizens. Like I said in my essay, there's no nation that can have zero unemployment rate.

All I'm saying is that USA despite being a capitalist country still provide jobs for her citizens. So why shouldn't our country do the same.


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/08/nonfarm-payrolls-december-2015.html


This is a recent link where jobs were provided by the government for her citizens.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by james2man: 9:02pm On Mar 13, 2016
This is educative... Following silently, kudos @aysuccess99

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Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Nobody: 9:02pm On Mar 13, 2016
Tourshaw:


As if none of the construction is implemented. Laughable indeed, despite the fact that I tried not to complete the statement because I knew it another flaw from you. You are arguing blindly bro. How could you jump into an incorrect conclusion that they don't finally construct the roads? For your information, endless construction is on going, check out some here.
https://www.nairaland.com/2439219/10-ongoing-mega-construction-projects

Endless construction is going on all thanks to the current administration.

In as much as I will agree with you that construction works are going on but we all know and it's quite obvious that in our county, the government just construct few out of many roads that need repair and possibly construction again.

Can you deny the fact that countless number of people die everyday due to the poor state or condition of our roads. The recent case of Mr. James Ocholi and his family who died in auto crash due to the bad state of our road comes to mind.
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Tourshaw: 9:04pm On Mar 13, 2016
aysuccess99:
Hmn, embezzlement may occur in most countries, but that of Nigeria is quite pathetic. Take a look at the recent arm deal scandal, missing NNPC $20 billion and many more corrupt practices. If this funds embezzle were used to improve our industries, like our refineries, Ajaokuta Steel Company, Delta Steel Company etc. I believe the unemployment rate in our country will reduce drastically because jobs will be available for the populace.

Are you saying without government provision of employment, the nation will starve to death or what? Do you realize that as there are civic rights there are also civic responsibilities? And you keep repeating line of the government loots as if that really amounts to something. If leaders loot and care less of the welfarism of the common men, won't you do anything. Ok, I understand you, we should just fold our arms and expect manna from heaven
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Nobody: 9:09pm On Mar 13, 2016
There is one thing that we must note is that Nigerians are not lazy. Let's take a look at the number of influx of candidates who applied for the immigration service jobs which led to some of them being stampeded and that led to their death. If Nigerians are lazy, most people would not apply for the job instead they will depend on the government for their food, clothing etc.

Also, Nigerians are not lazy, the incident of Ph.D holders being reported to drive Dangote trunks comes to mind. These are people who have spent their time reading and involving themselves in a lot of research but stoop so low to accept the employment provided by Dangote since they have no means of survival and they can't afford to steal and involve themselves in criminal activities.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Nobody: 9:13pm On Mar 13, 2016
aysuccess99:
There is one thing that we must note is that Nigerians are not lazy. Let's take a look at the number of influx of candidates who applied for the immigration service jobs which led to some of them being stampeded and that led to their death. If Nigerians are lazy, most people would not apply for the job instead they will depend on the government for their food, clothing etc.
Also, Nigerians are not lazy, the incident of Ph.D holders being reported to drive Dangote trunks comes to mind. These are people who have spent their time reading and involving themselves in a lot of research but stoop so low to accept the employment provided by Dangote since they have no means of survival and they can't afford to steal and involve themselves in criminal activities.


Nigerians are lazy, if they are not, they would embrace blue-collar jobs like farming to fend for themselves. They depends solely on government for the jobs that are not available. They believe education is the only way to get a better job.

China, Korea are triumphing technologically because their youths make use of the available resources but reverse is the case in Nigeria. Our fertile lands are crying for being neglected.
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by luxanne(f): 9:13pm On Mar 13, 2016
@Freemanan, KingTom, Crazyman, HerexG

Any question(s) for the debaters?


The Audience can also now ask.
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Nobody: 9:15pm On Mar 13, 2016
Tourshaw: weldone team mate, sorry I got occupied with a task beyond my control but I'm back now.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Tourshaw: 9:15pm On Mar 13, 2016
aysuccess99:


Endless construction is going on all thanks to the current administration.

In as much as I will agree with you that construction works are going on but we all know and it's quite obvious that in our county, the government just construct few out of many roads that need repair and possibly construction again.

Can you deny the fact that countless number of people die everyday due to the poor state or condition of our roads. The recent case of Mr. James Ocholi and his family who died in auto crash due to the bad state of our road comes to mind.

What you used as an example which is the case Mr James nullifies the point here. The accident is not as a result of bad road. It was gathered that the incident was as a result of burst car tyre and not bad road as you said. Please, take time to always read the news before comment
http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/03/08/ocholi-it-was-a-burst-tyre-that-caused-the-accident-says-survivor/
Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by Nobody: 9:18pm On Mar 13, 2016
Tourshaw:


Are you saying without government provision of employment, the nation will starve to death or what? Do you realize that as there are civic rights there are also civic responsibilities? And you keep repeating line of the government loots as if that really amounts to something. If leaders loot and care less of the welfarism of the common men, won't you do anything. Ok, I understand you, we should just fold our arms and expect manna from heaven
Hmm. How will you say that the money looted by the government those not amounts to something. It's quite a pity to see the state which our country have generated to in terms of corruption.

Ina s much as we can't fold our hands and expect manna from heaven but I put it to you that due to things that our government did not put in place has affected our country. Taking an instance, the issue of epileptic power supply, most artisans did not wait for the government to provide them job, for matter of emphasis, some of them are even graduates, but due to the lack of constant power supply by the government, most of them have been left with no other option than to close their shops and even fold up.

How about small business Enterprises and our local companies which are being affected by the failure of our government to provide those things that will help improve their business. lack of loans, poor electricity supply, bad government policies and even more have affected them and made them to fold up.

In as much that it is sardonic depending on a failed government but I tell you that most of government policies have one way or the other affected those who are even self-employed.


It is a just a pity that in the midst of abundant in this nation, we still suffer as if we have nothing.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool debate third edition Quarter Finals: Winner 4 UNILORIN by akanbiaa(m): 9:19pm On Mar 13, 2016
My Name is Akanbi Abdullahi Adeshola and am part of the audience/viewers my question is directed at Mr Omotosho representing UNIILORIN and it goes thus: Unemployment is a monster that will come to consume all and sundry if its unchecked, people are easily brainwashed and indoctrinated with negative believe system because of frustration from unemployment(Causing high crime rates, terrorism and hatred even evident with tribalistic utterances mostly from unemployed youths on nairaland), knowing these Who should be responsible for creating employment and training the so called unemployable people, and why is there so much stolen funds, abandoned projects, and stupendiously rich politicians who embezzle what was budjeted for developmental projects, skill acquisition/empowerement and employment programs?

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