mukhcech:


That is the point. Buh becos He is a northerner and muslim. The blame is hurriedly shifted to islam, muslims and the north. The point is that there are many 13 yr old girls with lovers in Nigeria and all over the world. And the blame is on the the way the society influence individuals and other obvious factor. Buh the man-made laws who says a 13yr old is a minor have not only shy away from the various vices that affects a 13yr old girl buh encourages them. E.g The popular hip hop culture and nollywood in our mainstream media singing and portraying nudity in every ramification.

Our problems lies not in islam, or our tribe buh in our individual characters and traits.

The crime was committed in Bayelsa, the "man made laws" applies. The Nigerian constitution is very reasonable here, a child is only a child, not responsible enough to make adult-style decisions.

Your argument will carry much weight if you call for an independent Islam state in your north devoid of all these evils from pop culture and mainstream media. After living in Saudi Arabia for 2 yrs. I can tell you if it's put up for vote whether to retain Sharia law, I doubt sharia will survive that vote.

No one has the right to judge a man of GOD like Pastor Bakare. He is like Elijah. Whatever he says is final. Even if he says fire should come down. Pastor Bakare Sir! More Annointing

Apt! My brother, u've spoken well...

woodcook:
What an embarrassment from a purported leader of a congregation. You can imagine the type of man that thousands hinge their hope/salvation on?

What happened to waiting for the court to hear the case and pronounce judgement, after all that is why they were set up in the first place?
What happened to choosing your words wisely as a "man of God"?
What happened to respecting the dignity of man no matter what they have done?

When will my people learn to think for themselves without enslaving themselves to men like Bakare?


I am sure some idiot will come around soon and start throwing "Touch not my anointed..." quote around, but save that for yourself because I won't be drawn into such stupid argument.

Is that what bible prescribes for such an offence or his personal judgement

If we should start cutting that thing, what of some pastor doing it

Jewish ecclesiastical law in Nigeria

Haba Bakare!a former lawyer under our constitution d Guy iz innocent na!what happens 2 4givness wich xrist preaches?he who has no sin let him caste d 1st stone.

Iamsane:


A senseless post par excellence. Were omo jatijati.

Your moniker says it all. What else can I say? Wallow in your insanity.

truly:


And "sensible religion of Christianity" requires a Child witch to be burnt
And they are being burnt in Nigeria!

Please educate we where it happened and which Christian community supported such barbaric act? If you can't, then shut the lie up and keep mute.

DeeMain:


Unending discord: Historically, in Nigeria, Islam and civilization has been clashing repeatedly ad infinitum.

Your use of the word civilisation is limited - every culture is civilization
Civilisation is not what the white man brought!

DeeMain:

The result is the many religious riots and carnage and killings in the name of Allah in the North.

And also mass cannibalism practised on Muslims by Berom in the North - is cannibalism part of the "civilisation" the Christian Beroms imbibed
What is the cause of the perennial clashes between the Tivs and Jukuns in the North
Both are Christians - why don't we ascribe it to their religion?
Why is Islam the cause of any clash between a Muslim of a tribe and others

DeeMain:
Father Kukah: Islam and democracy don't mix well together.

Father Kukah is Father Kukah; He is not God Kukah
And what he not making excuses for GEJ the other day - that his thievery should be forgiven be cause he conceded defeat?
Father Kukah is a Christian - I wonder when a statement by Oyegun of APC will be taken as an objective and definitive comment on PDP
I reckon that the Christian who refused to recognise the US Supreme Court judgment on h-o-m-o-s-i-c-k marriage is mixing his Christian faith with the supremacy of man-made law

BTW - how is democracy working for the blacks in America?
Looks like Black Lives don't matter in, and mix with, democracy

DeeMain:
Personally, I think the religion needs to be rejigged to make it compatible with mordernity.

And who are you sir?
Your opinion on this becomes irrelevant as long as you are not a Muslim
Why should Clinton be concerned about the constitution of the GOP?
What is modernity? - succumbing to atheism and a practice that animals even will not stoop low to practice?
The problem with Nigerians is inferiority complex; most arguments raised against Islam are forged in the West!
I have not seen anything

DeeMain:

Grain : There are rights and privileges of womanhood conferred on menstruating little girls by Islam that secular society does not and abhors. These things create confusion and are easy sources of conflict in the society.

Your argument is sophistry designed to obfuscate
What rights do Christian women have that muslim women lack?
And the "mensurating little girls" tag is designed to make the matter emotive = ala "yours daughters and wives"

DeeMain:

On Bakare: Never said that. But you are free to feed your imagination however you want.

No need to in so many words
The unquestioning applause suffices

DeeMain:

Tired of the perennial conflicts, aren't you?

Orchestrated by Christians who always shout Islamisation of Nigeria though the problem is their desire for a Christian Nigerian state
Public schools are filled with ideas and procedures slanted towards Christianity - Christians abhor polygamy and detest a multi-religion state
What is the punishment for all these pastors doing it with underaged girls
Pour anointing oil on their manhood?

Please let it be known that these noise is not about justice for the girls
But a determination for a bad name for Islam

Okechux:
Many people will not watch the video to know exactly what He said and how he put the statement. They will comment rubbish on the post. WATCH THE VEDIO

We have watched it!!!
And whatever the excuse, he believes that manhood should be excised as deterrent
No matter the coating, that is the rub
Let us adopt and let us see how many pastors will able to pee the day after!

Phlegmwash:


The crime was committed in Bayelsa, the "man made laws" applies. The Nigerian constitution is very reasonable here, a child is only a child, not responsible enough to make adult-style decisions.

Then let us apply the man-made laws to all
But we cannot invent cutting manhood because we are delaing with a Muslim
Where is that derived from?

Phlegmwash:

Your argument will carry much weight if you call for an independent Islam state in your north devoid of all these evils from pop culture and mainstream media. After living in Saudi Arabia for 2 yrs. I can tell you if it's put up for vote whether to retain Sharia law, I doubt sharia will survive that vote.

The grass is greener on the other field until they cross over and experience
I believe those guys will even vote for the guy who wants to build walls
Right?

truly:

Your use of the word civilisation is limited - every culture is civilization
Civilisation is not what the white man brought!


And also mass cannibalism practised on Muslims by Berom in the North - is cannibalism part of the "civilisation" the Christian Beroms imbibed
What is the cause of the perennial clashes between the Tivs and Jukuns in the North
Both are Christians - why don't we ascribe it to their religion?
Why is Islam the cause of any clash between a Muslim of a tribe and others


Father Kukah is Father Kukah; He is not God Kukah
And what he not making excuses for GEJ the other day - that his thievery should be forgiven be cause he conceded defeat?
Father Kukah is a Christian - I wonder when a statement by Oyegun of APC will be taken as an objective and definitive comment on PDP
I reckon that the Christian who refused to recognise the US Supreme Court judgment on h-o-m-o-s-i-c-k marriage is mixing his Christian faith with the supremacy of man-made law

BTW - how is democracy working for the blacks in America?
Looks like Black Lives don't matter in, and mix with, democracy


And who are you sir?
Your opinion on this becomes irrelevant as long as you are not a Muslim
Why should Clinton be concerned about the constitution of the GOP?
What is modernity? - succumbing to atheism and a practice that animals even will not stoop low to practice?
The problem with Nigerians is inferiority complex; most arguments raised against Islam are forged in the West!
I have not seen anything


Your argument is sophistry designed to obfuscate
What rights do Christian women have that muslim women lack?
And the "mensurating little girls" tag is designed to make the matter emotive = ala "yours daughters and wives"


No need to in so many words
The unquestioning applause suffices


Orchestrated by Christians who always shout Islamisation of Nigeria though the problem is their desire for a Christian Nigerian state
Public schools are filled with ideas and procedures slanted towards Christianity - Christians abhor polygamy and detest a multi-religion state
What is the punishment for all these pastors doing it with underaged girls
Pour anointing oil on their manhood?

Please let it be known that these noise is not about justice for the girls
But a determination for a bad name for Islam

I could puncture a million holes in your argument but what's the point? Religious debates are unwinnable and create bad blood on both sides. Lose - lose. I shouldn't have bothered. Best wishes bro.

truly:


Then let us apply the man-made laws to all
But we cannot invent cutting manhood because we are delaing with a Muslim
Where is that derived from?


The grass is greener on the other field until they cross over and experience
I believe those guys will even vote for the guy who wants to build walls
Right?

I'm not holding brief for Pastor Bakare here. Bakare is speaking in his capacity as a politician, yes he is one because he contested for the second top most political position in the land. If he were to speak in his capacity as a Christian Pastor he would he have preached forgiveness and protection of the girl child against pedophiles in the future.

My point is: Nigeria is a multi religious entity, so do not force your Islamic values down our throat. I've seen enough in the middle east to know the so called Sharia law is heavily flawed, it is therefore anachronistic to speak of it in the 21st century.

mukhcech:
Oh now the pastor recognise Sharia. How ignorant he is. In islam the crime of YUNUSA and ESE is well legislated. No Pastor Bakare u dont have the moral or spiritual jurisdiction to judge based on Sharia. In Sharia, they are both sinners and would be flogged in public(This is Based on the confession by Ese that she was not Kidnapped-I wonder why everyone seem to shy away from that revelation.)

U can only apply sharia law to any muslim nd nt non-believers. Ese is free of sharia if im nt mistaken.

Okay nice meeting you.

pricelessngel:
Not from Jos, schooling in Jos.

End time pastor

Dharniel:
even Pastor Bakare supports Sharia...

That's not Shariah. don't get it twisted. its madness coming from a respected and celebrated pastor. Shariah unlike Biblical violence has rules of evidence and procedure. Quit the hate speech and learn about Islam before churning out rubbish.

Phlegmwash:


The crime was committed in Bayelsa, the "man made laws" applies. The Nigerian constitution is very reasonable here, a child is only a child, not responsible enough to make adult-style decisions.

Your argument will carry much weight if you call for an independent Islam state in your north devoid of all these evils from pop culture and mainstream media. After living in Saudi Arabia for 2 yrs. I can tell you if it's put up for vote whether to retain Sharia law, I doubt sharia will survive that vote.

a vote? that will not happen, I can assure you. Islamic law is not being practiced for political reasons in SA. its a way of life. I can agree that the Islamic criminal law in Saudi Is a bit up in its strict application form what it used to be traditionally, but it'll never descend to the lawless societies you yearn for, where individualism has caused us all ruins, were gay rights have become tool to oppress religious institutions, where morality is preached at beer parlours and strip clubs.

AlanSugar:
And this is coming from a pastor? Whatever happened to "pray for thy enemies", "love thy neighbour as thyself", and so on? Mr yellow said ese's mom knew about their illicit love affair, he just took it to the next level thinking it'll be alright and did as his religion permitted him to, only for the mother to now come and be "forming"! Why didn't she stop it when it just got started? Abeg enough of this story already until we know the truth about what actually happened.

May Allah increase you in wretchedness. Aameen. Who told you Yunusa's act is in accordance to islam.? Have u ever seen an Islamic cleric defending Yunusa's act. May your mother weep over you if you dont repent for saying such.

HaroldFinch:


a vote? that will not happen, I can assure you. Islamic law is not being practiced for political reasons in SA. its a way of life. I can agree that the Islamic criminal law in Saudi Is a bit up in its strict application form what it used to be traditionally, but it'll never descend to the lawless societies you yearn for, where individualism has caused us all ruins, were gay rights have become tool to oppress religious institutions, where morality is preached at beer parlours and strip clubs.

leave the Maddman alone. We shall know when the time comes.

babs01:

U can only apply sharia law to any muslim nd nt non-believers. Ese is free of sharia if im nt mistaken.

Nah ur mad pastor make reference to sharia nah.

Dharniel:
even Pastor Bakare supports Sharia...

olodo. Under Sharia Law, that is not his judgement.

SweetOlive:
I concur

truly:

So if Pastor Bakare says what you like, he is a Christian?
If you dislike it, he is a Muslim?
Then is he a Muslim leading a Church?

And you are you a true Christian? Do you not judge?

And most importantly is that the punishment in Islam?
If not, how does that come his Muslim background? and how much if Islamic jurisprudence did he learn as a Muslim

And what about the other Christians who support him hers, do they have Muslim background too

And is what Yunusa did worse than your christian folks burning of "child witches"?
"Thou shall not suffer a witch to live" That is in Genesis.

No be so?

No be so. If you must quote the Bible, get yourself one to ascertain what you are quoting. What you quoted is not in Genesis and natural minds like you cannot even understand the meaning. So, I need not argue with you. But let me quickly inform you that that was the whole essence of Christ coming to this world- to achieve (through love) what the law (including the one you quoted) could not achieve through enforcement. Our weapons of warfare are not carnal. W

His manhood don't need to be cut off, they just need to castrate him. Lobatan gbam

mukhcech:


May Allah increase you in wretchedness. Aameen. Who told you Yunusa's act is in accordance to islam.? Have u ever seen an Islamic cleric defending Yunusa's act. May your mother weep over you if you dont repent for saying such.

It is not today that Muslims and Islam speak with different tongues! Need I remind you of boko haram beliefs and practices which they say are the practices of true Islam?! Go get a life, hausa goat! It's you and your useless family that your good for nothing Allah will increase in wretchedness!

AlanSugar:




It is not today that Muslims and Islam speak with different tongues! Need I remind you of boko haram beliefs and practices which they say are the practices of true Islam?! Go get a life, hausa goat! It's you and your useless family that your good for nothing Allah will increase in wretchedness!

since u insist on rubbishing islam with the activities of few muslims, May Allah's curse be on you. Aameen. Aameen. Aameen.

U suffering has just started.!!!

mukhcech:


since u insist on rubbishing islam with the activities of few muslims, May Allah's curse be on you. Aameen. Aameen. Aameen.

U suffering has just started.!!!

You've been seriously brainwashed, again go get a life! And may the almighty God forgive you and see you through your life in darkness! Amen, amen and amen!

mukhcech:


leave the Maddman alone. We shall know when the time comes.

Typical response from a Wahhabist, always mad at dissenting opinions. Have you lived in Saudi Arabia? I don't mean as a pilgrim/tourist.

nortcentrallord:


Your moniker says it all. What else can I say? Wallow in your insanity.

Read the moniker again and u will realise how madness runs in ur brain. Ode!!!

AlanSugar:



You've been seriously brainwashed, again go get a life! And may the almighty God forgive you and see you through your life in darkness! Amen, amen and amen!

The curse is already on u and it shall come to pass. In sha allah. U aint seen nothing yet.