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| Re: Tithes And Offerings by Nobody: 10:06am On Sep 09, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:Since u have one, have u read it ![]() |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 10:23am On Sep 09, 2015 |
chuna1985:The onus probandi is on you to read, understand and post what you have read and understood before asking others to do your homework for you. ![]() |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by Image123(m): 11:04am On Sep 09, 2015 |
chuna1985:The Word of God cannot be a scam because of what obtains in your church. Maybe your church is the scam, not Malachi. |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by Nobody: 3:09pm On Sep 09, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:And he became confused... Fact is I've opened ur eyes to something important. Quit d argument. Cheers. |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 10:23am On Sep 10, 2015 |
Daily Manna |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 4:15pm On Sep 15, 2015 |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by MarkMiwerds(m): 12:02am On Sep 23, 2015 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=37122382][/quote]God did not say one-tenth of the firstfruits belong to Him! Firstfruits were a small handful or basket from gardens and orchards that were taken to the Temple at the beginning of harvest. Tithes were taken to the Levites in the farming cities at the end of the harvest. (see Nehemiah 10:37-38; Deuteronomy 26:1-4) And Jesus' statement, "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and render unto God the things that are God's" has nothing to do with tithes. Whose Image and Superscription? by Ronald W Robey “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s, and unto God that which is God’s.” Matthew 22:21 The above statement made by Jesus to the scribes and Pharisees is often taken out of its context and used by pastors and laymen alike, in an attempt to prove that God requires tithe of money from the Church member today. But, when read in context with the entire discourse, and rightly dividing the Word of Truth, it is easy to see that Jesus was not endorsing a monetary tithe at all. Matthew 22:15-22 Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men. Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not? But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites? Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? They say unto him, Caesar’s. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s. When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way. The disciples of the Pharisees and Herodians asked Jesus a question concerning tribute paid to Caesar. Jesus’ profound reply is overlooked by many today. The image and superscription on the tribute money was that of the ruling government… Caesar’s. In our modern language, we would say it thusly, “Pay the government the taxes they require. The money is theirs.” Jesus also said that those disciples who questioned Him were to give to God that which was God’s. Was He speaking of money when He said, “Render unto God the things that are God’s”? Not at all.In the very first chapter of the Bible, we are told that man was created in God’s image. So, the question arises, “Whose image and superscription is on man?” Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. That’s right… God’s image. And when man places his faith in the Lord Jesus Christ for his Salvation, God’s superscription is upon that man. Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12:1-2 tell us that we are to present our bodies as living sacrifices unto God, holy and acceptable unto Him. “Render unto God that which is God’s.” In Matthew 22:15-22, Jesus was not telling the Pharisaical and Herodian disciples to tithe money. He was telling them to yield their own selves, their bodies to the LORD’s service. And Paul echoed that admonition in his epistle to the Romans thirty years later. God’s image is on us. Let us always be prepared to be yielded to His service. |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by MarkMiwerds(m): 3:47pm On Sep 26, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:Yeah, I'm the smart one. I'm not on the ladder. LoL. |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 10:05am On Oct 12, 2015 |
MarkMiwerds:Yeah right. ![]()
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| Re: Tithes And Offerings by Nobody: 3:08pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
The origin of current day Tithing teaching> http://www.letusreason.org/doct54.htm |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by MarkMiwerds(m): 9:31pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
Is Tithing a Sin? by Ronald W Robey Is tithing money a sin? Yes, it is,... if you are tithing money in order to obey the Biblical command to tithe. God's Word decides what is to be tithed, not us. The decision as to what is to be tithed, to whom the tithe is to be given, and where it is to be tithed has already been decided in God's Word. He said His holy tithe is agriculrural, not monetary. (Lev. 27:30-33) He said it is for the physical descendants of Levi, not for Gentiles on Gentile soil. (Num. 18:24-26; Neh. 10:37-38) God's Word says that sin is the transgression of the Law. (1 John 3:4) For anyone to say that God requires monetary tithes is a lie, since God's Word says His holy tithe is to be agricultural. For anyone to say that God's holy tithe is to be taken to Gentile pastors on Gentile soil is a lie, since God said His holy tithes are to go to Levites in farming communities in Israel. When those who believe that God's Word commands tithes tithe money and they tithe on Gentile soil, they transgress the very Law they claim to be keeping. Yes, to tithe money in response to Leviticus 27:30, Malachi 3:10, Matthew 23:23, Luke 11:42 or Hebrews 7:5-9 is, in fact, sin. |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 2:03pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
Image123:Bumped. ![]() |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 9:36am On Nov 02, 2015 |
MarkMiwerds:All tithes belong to God. (Leviticus 27:30). |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by dorox(m): 9:44am On Nov 02, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:All tithes belongs to Pastor ![]() |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by vooks: 10:58am On Nov 02, 2015 |
Image123:Tithing like circumcision is a work of the Law and you can't even do it right seeing there is no priesthood to receive your tithe and you are not even in agriculture which is the only activity that was tithed from. I have a problem with believers who VAINLY try to keep portions of the law so religiously and they find others who are least bothered unfaithful to God |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 11:04am On Nov 02, 2015 |
Daily Manna |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 4:50pm On Nov 19, 2015 |
This Grace Also |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 1:59pm On Nov 26, 2015 |
Wahala dey o!
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| Re: Tithes And Offerings by Image123(m): 8:23am On Nov 27, 2015 |
Lol, even the utility bills have been paid oh,some christains refuse responsibility. |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by engrelvis(m): 3:13pm On Nov 27, 2015 |
i think d issue of tithe has to do wit what u believe.infact our spiritual orientation go long way to determine d end product.people who dnt pay tithe also prosper.most of our pastor has abuse these tithe .listen d reason y church is boomin here is because of poverty.u can be preachin in US n b tellin yr congregation u will v a car or house in jesus name.y? because there is already a structure on ground to take of dt.am a christain by GODGRACE but most pastor here r taking advantage of poverty problem of their members |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 1:40am On Nov 30, 2015 |
Image123:I wonder why they don't say 'Jesus paid it all' when the tax man comes knocking. ![]() |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:45pm On Dec 04, 2015 |
Daily Manna
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| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 9:46pm On Dec 23, 2015 |
Daily Manna |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 3:35pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
chuna1985:Is that all you've got to say? How about replying image123's post if you could not respond to mine? ![]() |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 10:13am On Mar 22, 2016 |
engrelvis:If the Lord said it and I believe it that settles it for me. ![]() |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by Nobody: 11:29am On Mar 22, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU:Agreed. Am not really a tither but I don't mind giving, even tithing. But I stop as soon as whoever am giving to turns it into something that I don't have a choice in. Or they start making comments like "your doors will be opened, just keep doing this " I mean I wasn't trying to do that ![]() |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by vooks: 12:00pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Muafrika2:I been on both sides, I started as a non tither, went into tithing for years, nowadays I just give as the Lord leads me with no obligation whatsoever. What I've stopped doing is being a militant anti-tither. Tithing is a mere Christian tradition no different from Sunday fellowship. There are some practical benefits to be had in both, but it is patently wrong pushing either as a requirement, Law,command. The command is to support ministry and fellowship...the details are left to our innovation |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 2:10pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
Muafrika2:Why then did you tithe? ![]() |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by vooks: 2:30pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by Nobody: 6:18pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
vooks: OLAADEGBU:To give. Just for the sake of giving. But I stopped putting aside "tithe" after years of searching out the spiritual or scriptural significance of the activity in this age. Nowadays church wealth is personalised. So if someone is rich, they should stop threatening poor congregants with curses to collect money, it becomes usury. |
| Re: Tithes And Offerings by vooks: 8:22pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
Muafrika2:Bro, Paul appeals to Grace giving. If a believer won't give freely without compulsion, let them alone. But these greedy leeches won't have none of that, they dangle unscriptural carrot and wield unbiblical stick to make you part with your cash. Lord have mercy on them Here is a free book for you OLAADEGBU http://www.tithing.com/Breaking-and-Embracing.pdf
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| Re: Tithes And Offerings by OLAADEGBU(op): 5:19pm On Mar 24, 2016 |
vooks:But there are Scriptures that encourage me to go to church, no? ![]() |
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