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Re: Where Did Christians Fetch These Doctrines From by analice107: 7:25pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
asalimpo:Am not so sure about Nigeria, but if you attempt suicide in the US and fail, you will be charged for attempted murder. Yes, anyone who takes a life, whether it's or another person's end in hellfire. God takes that very seriously. |
Re: Where Did Christians Fetch These Doctrines From by theoneJabulani(m): 7:37pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
analice107:That's nt always true. Take the case of two real life twins who were born blind before suddenly going deaf at age 30. They requested to be euthanized and it was granted. |
Re: Where Did Christians Fetch These Doctrines From by asalimpo(m): 9:26pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
analice107:It's not a crime in the u.s, get your facts right. I believe God takes suicide seriously, but the hellfire part is subjective. I think it is inconclusive. Will God send the teenager who didnt know how to handle his/her first heartbreak properly to hell? Will God send the math professor who got so downcast because he was booed by his peers about his new findings to hell? (This actually happened! His theory was later re-discovered by another to great praise) |
Re: Where Did Christians Fetch These Doctrines From by asalimpo(m): 9:47pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
analice107:Great . Suicide is the voice of despair. While many had the dramatic intervention of God , like in your case, others dont. The despair is driving and crippling. What's worse, we live in a society where love is scarce. Do you know how many young people take their lives each year, because, they are afraid of facing their critical parents for not doing very well in university? Many indians kill themselves on graduation because they are ashamed of their grades. But when some people have problems and complain about it to others, the others often treat it lightly, or chide one for complaining. Feeling unloved and worthless , some people become susceptible. Shame and hopelessness. Great amounts of it can drive one to end it all. in the 2008, financial crisis, some formerly rich men ended their lives, they didnt know how they'd live with it. if they had somebody to pour out their heart to, and to pray with them, and stand by them, maybe they'd have made it through. If they had the spiritual maturity to withstand the temptation, they'd have made it through. There's a reason why God wants his people to fellowship together and be each others brother's keeper. |
Re: Where Did Christians Fetch These Doctrines From by analice107: 11:22pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
asalimpo:Brother despair is a spirit on its own, there's the spirit of suicide also. They are twin spirits, one starts and the other one finishes. Indians are known to kill themselves over flimsy excuses. Well, maybe because their believes teaches that they will come back via reincarnation, so they can afford to kill themselves hoping to come back and be better humans. In Christianity, "It is appointed unto a man to die ONCE, after that judgement". If you try that for whatever excuse you may give, you shall stand before God and answer for being a murderer. |
Re: Where Did Christians Fetch These Doctrines From by analice107: 11:32pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
theoneJabulani:Euthanasia is Mercy killing, and I think that bill is still debatable in America. Am not certain if it's been signed into law yet. Even then, before God, they will stand judgement. No-one escapes justice. |
Re: Where Did Christians Fetch These Doctrines From by asalimpo(m): 11:53pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
analice107:I was talking metaphorically when i said "suicide is the voice of despair" - meaning, despair can drive one to commit the act. In the bible, one's life span is more dependent on one than on God- that there's a fixed date when a man is supposed to go is another erroneuous doctrince permeated in christendom. Again, this erroneous teachings should be addressed. Your stand on suicide is still subjective- which makes my doubt the popular view that all suicides are hell bound. I think the idea is borne out of this reasoning: murder is a gross sin. murderers will not enter heaven. suicide is murder. therefore suicides are hell bound like murderers. My thoughts are subjective, but i feel that the issue is not as clear cut as this and that the conclusion could be wrong. Suicide and murder share similarities but are still vastly different motive wise. There has been a long standing tradition in christianity to invent more righteousness or make the bible say what it doesnt explicitly say in order to appear more righteous. And the suicide issue is one of them. Others are those like : drinking alchohol is a sin - (the bible says getting drunk is a sin ) using make up is a sin - listening to non christian music is a sin - the wedding wine at cana was non alchoholic - by labelling more things as straight tickets to hell or sin, more people would be deterred from doing them. Hence, righteousness will increase but then this becomes manipulation and control - using religion for these purposes that the heathens accuse religionists of. |
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