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Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Rosabella4sure(f): 8:49pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
I love their way of life. 4 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Memyselfu2009(m): 8:58pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
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Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Nobody: 9:07pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Gr8fulHeart:Thanks a lot. I am a witness too. I do know we use other bibles cos it's sometimes quoted in magazines and articles. I would take New word translation over any other bible the English is so simple for even a layman to understand as compared to the ancient English in the king James version I once used in my former lifetime 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Memyselfu2009(m): 9:11pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
rottennaija: Is the pyramid in Egypt also freemason |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by paulGrundy(m): 9:12pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
dumo1: There are other translations with equally simple English, e.g NASB version which was written in everyday language. I think the problem stems from the fact that you don't trust other versions, you believe they were influenced by "satan" or "babylon the great". |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by joyandfaith: 9:24pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
paulGrundy: How many English versions of bible have you seen? why Jehovah/Yahweh was removed from the version?Is it right to change someone name if you do not know how to pronounce it? 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Nobody: 9:36pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
paulGrundy:Bros u were not the one I quoted so Pls i beg you carry your wahala and your myopic mind to your village. Your comments haven't been useful to this thread. why so much hatred? 2 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by sammhi(m): 9:50pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
@Oglalasioux.. i have read a lot of your arguments and while i do understand your point and vexation , please permit me to say the following: 1. it is not true that different versions of a story means the story are lies.. e.g if an accident occur , some journalist may report that 4 persons died while others will say 6 persons..even how it happened may vary.but it does not mean no accident took place. so too Christianity...Catholics JW, redeemed etc are just different set of people understanding of the bible . Even in Jesus day,,there were Sadducee , Pharisees and other sects too. the fact is that humans tend to play a[b] holier -than- though -attitude [/b]when it comes to religion. the basis of salvation for a christian is repentance of his sins, forsaken them, acceptance of Jesus as lord and savior and appreciation for the ransom. that is all.. but most times Christians argue about nature of God..oh he is a trinity , no He is not , Jesus died on the cross, no he didn't die on the cross, sinner will burn in hell , no they wont..etc..these very things are really not essential for salvation..except you worship idol etc . but as humans people think belief in those things is what will draw you close to God ...but maybe but what draw God close to you is your faith in him.period! Abraham, job, Joseph, Jacob etc knew none of these things but they were called friends of God due to their faith. so most important is your faith. Faith here means patience, trust and reliance on Him..not faith of miracles . 2. Science has done some good but has not helped man to a very good extent . it has not solve death, able to bring dead man to life or solve crime . You posted pics of some malnourished kids.truth is those are not work of God but man made ..those kids may have been victim of war or or something let me ask you..if all of us obey the Bible ..how do you think the world will look like ? sure it will be a better place. mans suffering is linked directly to disobedience .more like when a child fail to heed his fathers advice..he will suffer unnecessary and avoidable hardship...will you blame his dad for his suffering when he refused to go to school or learn a trade etc? Man is a program more like a car ..if you fail to take care of your car according to its manual, you wont enjoy that car...so too Man has failed to obey his manual...the Bible and then turn around to blame the one who gave him the manual. European develo0pment both in terms of morals, sense of justice and hard work was a product of centuries of applying the bible principles ...until late 1940s , Europe was largely ruled by purely Christian clergy who hold very strict moral and other rules . and this started from 3rd century when Christianity took root in Europe. During this period, Africa was deep in demon worship and fear of spirits. when Christianity was introduced to Africa about 100 years ago, we now had freedom and then later some mixed culture. the result is that we became worse as our foundation was feeble..from fear to freedom . most of the Africa rulers were demon worshipers who had no ilk about godly fear and respect for fellow man...these were the opposite of the very foundation of Europe . so overtime we can see the result btw Africa and Europe . of course the new generation of Europeans do not know God due to an affluent society and teaching of demons 3.The main opposer of God is Devil himself ....He is behind modern attitude and irrational behavior like being gay is ok etc.hypocrisy, lies , murder , adultery are all works of the devil which man has embraced because doing good is more difficult as we prefer darkness. Naturally, to be god requires a lot of work..for instance..it takes more to build than it is to destroy..so also man has decided to always take the easy option,badness. badness is easy and can even be fun but being good takes lot of effort and may even be boring ..that is how life is ...for instance..Ronaldo trains more than his colleague .he even hires a personal trainer..so how many other players can have such discipline..most prefer partying etc ..result is even if they are naturally more gifted than Ronaldo, they wont excel as much as him because their work is not as good . so it is in religion, it is easier to pretend , lie cheat etc than to keep the law. we can talk more lata but my point is don't look at human reactions to the Holy book but study the book itself and you will find that it contains and give answers to all your issues |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by paulGrundy(m): 9:50pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
joyandfaith: Aha! Now you are talking, just so you know Jehovah is not Gods name it was derived by combining the Latin letters JHVH with the vowels of Adonai (lord) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah The Divine Name Brochure p.10, by the Watchtower Society states: "Even though the modern pronunciation Jehovah might not be exactly the way it was pronounced originally, this in no way detracts from the importance of the name. While many translators favor the pronunciation Yahweh, the New World Translation and also a number of other translations continue the use of the form Jehovah because of people's familiarity with it for centuries." His name is yahweh. The Jews don't usually pronounce the name, so its pronounciation is unknown. Secondly the original manuscripts of the new testament was written in greek and there was no record of the usage of Jehovah. But the watchtower still went ahead to include the word while admitting that it was not in the original scriptures. This was their defense. Proclaimers p.99 claims: "The conventioners were thrilled to learn that this new translation [NWT] restored the divine name Jehovah 237 times in the main text from Matthew to Revelation!" The fundamental flaw of the NWT is this insertion of the word Jehovah 237 times into the New Testament. Watchtower justifies this insertion by claiming all known New Testament manuscripts are inaccurate. This is vitally important because such a claim undermines the integrity of the Bible. |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by coachwilcox(m): 10:07pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
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Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by waShine(m): 10:11pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
oglalasioux:Bro you try well well, but I want to ask you if you try to read Quran as you include Islam in your comment. 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Nobody: 10:13pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
I attended the event too. I attend kingdom Hall meetings sometimes too and i am quite familiar with J.W doctrines. . . Abeg oooo, nobody mentioned Russel's miracle wheat seeds oo, nobody mentioned the fact that he was a divorcee, and the way he was treating his wife was very contrary to bible standards which states that husbands and wives should submit to each other...hmmmmm..... Russell!! . . He had a soft spot for mason. What of all the false prophecies? What of the one made by Russel himself which didnt come to pass? Why are other christain organisations labelled false when clearly JW was built on falsehood? Did Russel made a claim which didnt come to pass? Yes he did! He lost a lot of followers due to that prophesy which never came to pass. And someone will tell me "we have amended our doctrines because our understanding of the bible has changed" . Lols. Why mend it? Shey watch tower say na only una church Holy spirit dae? (where is that in d bible) Didnt watchtower state clearly that the Holy spirit "was only present in God's true earthly organisation (i.e JW)" and that all other christain organisation, was of the devil and which means the absence of the Holy spirit? Where is that in the bible? And if truely the organisation was inspired by the Holy spirit, then Russell's and some of the other prophecies would have come to pass....hmmmmm!! I love J.W and i'll keep attenting meetings when i like, but i can never take some craps cus i no be dundy!!! Iranu!! 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by coachwilcox(m): 10:22pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
paulGrundy: Im surprised you have so much information about witnesses and our present and past publications plus the apostate website jwfacts from where you draw all your information from. You offer no alternative or better solution/doctrine or teachings better than what witnesses have to offer. You're obviously an apostate who 1. Was raised a witness and began to go back to the things behind. 2. Was disfellowshipped for wrongdoing and rather than repent and be reinstated have embarked on a campaign to discredit witnesses. 3. Fell in love with a witness girl and because she refused to marry you for not being a witness, you were left heartbroken and embarked on this campaign of hate. All you do is dig into adjustments in scriptural understanding over the years and highlight it forgetting that even the early apostles had to reason from the scriptures on issues like circumcision and the likes for better understanding. Catholics, Pentecostal churches and all regularly promote and practice unscriptural teachings and celebrations respectively THAT ARE NOT EVEN IN THE BIBLE at all but when a witness adjusts thinking on certain matters you copy and paste this to discredit witnesses. Well. i leave you with peters word in 2 Pet 2:1-3 However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These will quietly bring in destructive sects, and they will even disown the owner who bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves.2Furthermore, many will follow their brazen conduct, and because of them the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively.3Also, they will greedily exploit you with counterfeit words. But their judgment, decided long ago, is not moving slowly, and their destruction is not sleeping. 7 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by XaintJoel20: 10:26pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
ableguy:You wouldn't have the "time" to "read" it because it's revealing and brought out many flops in your belief and doctrine. I am disappointed in you, reasons being that I hold Jehovah's Witnesses in high esteem due to their vast knowledge of the Bible, but you have turn out to be a poor student... 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Fabre: 10:28pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Be careful of apostate. 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Fabre: 10:30pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Be careful of apostate. 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by paulGrundy(m): 10:32pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Funny I was not, will not be a JW. You left me with a scripture, let me leave you with a question, can ACCURATE and COMPLETE truth adjust over time? |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Fabre: 10:33pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
ajepako:Team JW 2 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Nobody: 10:36pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
coachwilcox: i was a regular pioneer before i slept with the elder and MS. but now i hate JW and kingdom hall |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by XaintJoel20: 10:51pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
paulGrundy:If Jesus Christ resurrected in the "spirit" and not in the "flesh" as you may want me to believe, why was his body not found in the tomb #PleaseRespond... 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by coachwilcox(m): 10:52pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
irunooboo: Well. If you were a regular pioneer and then proceeded to sleep with and elder and MS, I wonder many worldling you were giving it to as well before then. 2 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by athorello(m): 10:55pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
I've lost touch with JWits. They were weekly callers at home while my dad was alive. Used to read their books and journals like mad. Library is still stocked with many of their literatures. Yeah, that's back then but I still have many of them as friends. On the average, jw has some of the best behaved folks as a religious organization. All I care for now is my jw girl. But our love is yet to permeate religious boundary. According to jw, ur associates should not just respect your beliefs. They must hold them too. But to me, understanding and respect with love is key. I'm now more of a church decentralised Christian though I currently hold my stronger ties to rccg. Formerly dlbc. I have my parents church (ccdc, don't ask me) at home, Salvation ministries half of the time this year. Winners, blw, ag, cgm, Baptist, Anglican, the apostolic faith, et al are places I do or have been to not forgetting the various campus fellowships back then (Gtan, dlcf, tlt, rcf, cfi, e-life, few others). Never been to Catholic, cele, church of christ or even jw (Kingdom hall). Who else is like me? 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Nobody: 10:59pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
paulGrundy: exactly thats where my problem lie too, how can the truth, inspired by "the Holy Spirit" turnout to be false later? Or is the Holy spirit a liar now? Me no just understand |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Fabre: 11:05pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Enough of dis commotion. You can't change d spot on a Leopard skin. We r though convinced of d truth. |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by imohchard(m): 11:06pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
AtleaSt you know thAt there is no place for immoraliTy in Jehovahs house irunooboo: 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by imohchard(m): 11:10pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Lols... You is a very religios perSon trust me... Buh I think You shoulD step back a little bit and look at the bigger picture in line with whAT thE bible really teacheS... athorello: |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by imohchard(m): 11:15pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Bro, you remember WhAt christ say abouT those his father draws? The poor,un educAtEd honestt heArted ones... So noT everyonE can be a jW paulGrundy: 2 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by kashflynn(m): 11:30pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Have you tried reading our book What does the Bible Really Teaches. If you haven't I appeal to you to get in contact with any of Jehovah's witness nd they would willing help you study this book, so u cld find Bible based ans and Bible truth for ur self from the Bible. I only ask u keep an open mind and will to learn so as to grab the full meaning on what ur studying, there after meditate deeply On the tinz u've learnt, then analyze, compare and contrast nd see if actually the Bible doesn't really have the ans to life big question Or u can Vist our website Jw.org for more information, tanx.. I look forward to your own post on nairaland as to the new scriptural understanding u've attained oglalasioux: 2 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by paulGrundy(m): 11:31pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Omagzee: How I wish the JW's in this forum reason like you, they even use the term ACCURATE and COMPLETE. |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by paulGrundy(m): 11:36pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
imohchard: Am glad Jesus never restricted anyone or formed any group or denomination. The bible sAys he is the ONLY mediator (link) between God and man. So who are you following? JW or Jesus? |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Achorise: 11:37pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
okitz4:if you guys in JW can stop criticism of other religions on ur pulpit by indoctrinating the minds of your members, you will go a long way by opening your minds for Jesus to take charge. How can someone be in Brussel,and control the minds of millions without anyone raising an eyebrow. |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by coachwilcox(m): 11:37pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
paulGrundy: If you're not a former JW, then what's the basis for your hatred, opposition and ultimately apostasy? You're like a man who saw a hungry person eating a meal. He the proceeded to tell him how many calories and possibly unhealthy cholesterol is in that meal and discourages him from consuming it. However, he offers no better alternative meal to the person to satisfy his hunger. As for you question, I leave you with Proverbs 4:18,19. 18 But the path of the righteous is like the bright morning lightThat grows brighter and brighter until full daylight. 19 The way of the wicked is like the darkness;They do not know what makes them stumble And 1 Cor 3:19 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God, for it is written: “He catches the wise in their own cunning.” 1 Like |
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