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dubylhover:
dat fella defending Rooney blindly doesn't want to b realistic...since 2004,Rooney has flopped in all competitions for d country side,but yet he's their all time top scorer courtesy of friendlies and qualifiers...currently is Rooney close to Kane? d modern day football that encourages quick transition,can Rooney give you that? anyways I'm happy i don't support English national team cos I know that hodgson would still start him,thereby holding another player back....even xavi is his old age wud offer Spain more currently than what roo wud offer England..but d English are so blinded by sentiments that they don't actually see what would help them

Former Germany international Lothar Matthaus, watching in the ITV studio, caught the prevailing mood perfectly with his post-match analysis. “It’s surprised me completely,” he said of England’s performance, “especially when you see the team, young players, but players who like to win, who like to give the best for their country. I hope the coach saw it too and gives these players now the chance to build a good team for the European Championships and later for the World Cup 2018. This is a team who have a big chance when they play like today to be by the best teams in the world in three years.

RuuDie:
I like that part about Xavi... personaaly, I feel the likes of Rooney, Milner and Barry should only be there to 'guide' this younger ones. They have a very vibrant, hungry, fearless side - midfield to attack!

GBR1:
This is not true. You might follow English football very well but you can't be much ahead of the English folks themselves and in their popular opinion, Rooney doesn't deserve to start. This is one poll for example and i think while Rooney might still be a good player overall, there are just better alternatives to him in whatever position he could occupy who are in better form or would have had a better season than him and knowing he hasn't played in months due to an injury.

Never mind though, i believe he'd just walk straight into the team regardless so you have no worries. It's more worrying that there are those who think England would go very far in the Euros, it seems they've learn nothing from the past.

codedguy1:
so whose fault is it? mine?

Lvg has been here for 2 seasons now and we still play crap. we usually give a coach benefit of doubt in their first season and hope that they get things right in their 2nd, be cause of the nonsense style lvg is serving is what is making people believe that we sacked Moyes too early.

i agree the players have some fault in this but lvg is the major culprit in the way we play. we cant dismiss all the players you are exonerating, but we can change the coach to find someone who would be able to get the best out of the players we have no matter how mediocre they are. LVG does none of that, his way of motivating the players on the field of play when things aint going our way is criminal to say the least.

i repeat, most of our dismal play is lvg's fault. we are a goal down with 10 -15mins to play we will still be comfortable with passing the ball sideways and backwards and players will be happy that they did not lose the ball. His substitutions most times are ridiculous, rashford is doing magic by scoring he plays him on the wings and brings in martial who he has been playing on the left wing and has been impressive to striking position, sometimes he plays martial on the right and the guy is useless, some players are injured for 4weeks and immediately they come back are given a starting shirt and he benches a player who probably has hit some form of consistency in the middle, am talking of Fellaini and herrera. You acknowledge schneiderlin is good in the pivot with schweini and carrick but oga Lvg will play both carrick and schweini when schneiderlin is available.

The young players who are hungry are the ones saving his ass right now. if we had the likes of rooney fit he would have been playing and we probably would have been further down the table.

like i said the players have not exactly covered themselves in glory but Lvg has compounded the situation with his philosophy that nobody seems to understands.

we are not in 1996.

Kagawa10:
The only thing I can fault him for, is his impatience. Once he saw that Schneiderlin had consecutive bad games, he immediately dropped him not bothering to know whether it was as a result of not being used in his best role (box-box midfield) or not.
The underlined part was him trying to shoehorn Depay into the starting lineups when Martial returned back from his injury. Before then, Depay had the game of his life on the left wing against Midjilland and the only possible way the coach thought about not disrupting the team after Martial's return was to move Rashford/Martial to the right wing or play Martial in a striker role. He's learnt his mistake though and has realised that Depay is basically useless except he's playing against some 3rd rate full back in the europa league..
I would still love if LVG could be allowed to get his ideal midfielders into the team instead of forcing the likes of Herrera, Mata etc down his throat. The likes of Rashford, Lingard, Martial, CBJ and even Varela had already proved that Lvg system doesn't stifle player's attacking instinct/flairs. At least, They have all worked with him for many months now and the system should have made them look worse by now if the system was the problem but it's only shown that the likes of Mata, Depay, Rooney and Herrera are just not good enough. Even a fucking average Fellaini looks good in the same system, the only problem with Fellaini is that his best isn't just good enough for the team.
On Herrera, he's just not good enough. He's a turn over machine waiting to happen against high pressing team. The moment he found it difficult to control the midfield against a high pressing mdjtylland's midfield in the second leg despite the whole team having the game of their lives and the way he looked pathetic against a high pressing Watford team already shows Herrera's average level. The only time he's been good were against lethargic lazy teams like Arsenal and Everton who all failed to give him a good chase in the midfield..

adeyemi2015:
Your Team is trailing by a goal and this opportunity comes in the last minute of the Match?
Which of the Takers will you allow to take it as a Manager?!

elampiro:
Number 1 or 2

adeyemi2015:
You can only pick one nah!

adeyemi2015:
Your Team is trailing by a goal and this opportunity comes in the last minute of the Match?
Which of the Takers will you allow to take it as a Manager?!

AdeLaNa1:
Pirlo of cos. I think he's d best Freekick specialist on dat list.

I would ve gone with Messi. But he no dey list...

elampiro:
1.

adeyemi2015:
Your Team is trailing by a goal and this opportunity comes in the last minute of the Match?
Which of the Takers will you allow to take it as a Manager?!

adeyemi2015:
I think Juninho is simply the best!

AdeLaNa1:
Pirlo of cos. I think he's d best Freekick specialist on dat list.

I would ve gone with Messi. But he no dey list...

elampiro:
Messi will not make top 10 of all time. Juninho is the the best ever.

SIRcumalot:
Carlos and Ronaldo no suppose be option sef
those aren't good free kick takers.

elampiro:
Messi will not make top 10 of all time. Juninho is the the best ever.

adeyemi2015:
Sneijder shouldn't be on the list, if not because of the Position! I bet it's gonna be a miss if he played it! Messi deserves to be in the Top 10, Ronaldo isn't better than him!

elampiro:
Ronaldo was very good while at United but has regressed badly since joining Madrid. I think he is there because of the position of the ball.

Carlos can be there because he scored many freekicks. But with the position of the ball, he has no business being there.

adeyemi2015:
Your Team is trailing by a goal and this opportunity comes in the last minute of the Match?
Which of the Takers will you allow to take it as a Manager?!

elampiro:
I , a player like Ashley Young would have done far more damage than even Marital. Also against West Ham in FA Cup.

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dubylhover:
continue....just like in some matches Ashley young would also b better than neymar cos of xperience

Kagawa10:
The players are obviously not good enough.
Is it his fault that Carrick (one of the team's influential player last season) has added another year to his age and as a result has become tortoise in the midfield? Or his fault for the inconsistency of Rooney?
How is it the coach's fault that Young, our instrumental player last season has become ridden with injury since the season began and his supposed replacement, Depay has shown nothing to prove he can cut it in the top league?
Is it his fault that the likes of Herrera becomes turn overs machine as soon he's under pressure from high pressing opposition team? Or Mata who's been shit for 4 yrs running, starting from his last stint at Chelsea.
Basically, the team has no one other than Schneiderlin to deputise for Carrick however, Morgan has refused to do well in the holding role apart from when deployed as a box-box midfielder.
As a matter of fact, I found out that majority of Schneiderlin's best performance has been alongside Carrick/Schweinsteger who operates as the holding midfielder while he acts as the box-box midfielder. The Arsenal game for example, where the likes of Ozil, Ramsey et al were too lazy to press our midfield of Herrera-Schneiderlin thereby resulting into large space for them to operate still had Schneiderlin looking average in the holding midfield role. It was even worse against a high pressing Watford team who gave our midfield a hard chase resulting into many turnovers and we had God to thank that Watford failed to capitalise on the turnovers.
Schneiderlin is by no means a poor player but he's not cut out for the holding role and sadly, we have no one except him to deputise for Carrick. Just look at his performance stats on http://whoscored.com, you will notice that his best games were with either Carrick or Schweinsteiger who operated as the holding midfielders. Let's not even go far, the city game is an example.
I'm still of the belief that the squad is where the fault lies, not the coach's system. Basically, the team has no capable creative midfield to support and create for the likes of Rashford, Martial and Lingard yet these aforementioned players hasn't looked out of place in LVG's system. They've been vibrant, agile and look threatening in most games even with few chances created for them. What do you think will happen if we have a technical creative midfield to support them? The defence has been solid despite the little protection offered by the midfield. What do you think would happen with a better technical midfield in front of them.
First and foremost, no one should underestimate the importance of the holding midfield role where Carrick is deployed. I need to remind people that the Dortmund team immediately fell apart as soon as Sahin got injured last season and this season, the only player the new coach, Tuchel recruited into the first team is Weigl, a holding midfielder.
Simply put, the whole Dortmund's first team this season has consists of mainly Klopp's players apart from Weigl, who has been a constant feature in Tuchel's team.
The holding midfielder as inconspicuous as he is, build up the play, provide passing option for the back four, transition the play from the defence to attack, switch play to the wings, his reading of the games and anticipation while defending helps the team a lot.. This is what Carrick provided on daily basis last season but this season, his leg has becomes heavier and the team has no one to operate well in the said role. This has been one reason for the team total falling apart, just like Dortmund did under Klopp as soon Sahin got injured.
Another is the team has no consistent playmaker to orchestrate the play nor create for the forwards. The likes of Mata and Herrera are just average and inconsistent player with little creativity in them. Story of the team so far.

Kagawa10:
The only thing I can fault him for, is his impatience. Once he saw that Schneiderlin had consecutive bad games, he immediately dropped him not bothering to know whether it was as a result of not being used in his best role (box-box midfield) or not.
The underlined part was him trying to shoehorn Depay into the starting lineups when Martial returned back from his injury. Before then, Depay had the game of his life on the left wing against Midjilland and the only possible way the coach thought about not disrupting the team after Martial's return was to move Rashford/Martial to the right wing or play Martial in a striker role. He's learnt his mistake though and has realised that Depay is basically useless except he's playing against some 3rd rate full back in the europa league..
I would still love if LVG could be allowed to get his ideal midfielders into the team instead of forcing the likes of Herrera, Mata etc down his throat. The likes of Rashford, Lingard, Martial, CBJ and even Varela had already proved that Lvg system doesn't stifle player's attacking instinct/flairs. At least, They have all worked with him for many months now and the system should have made them look worse by now if the system was the problem but it's only shown that the likes of Mata, Depay, Rooney and Herrera are just not good enough. Even a fucking average Fellaini looks good in the same system, the only problem with Fellaini is that his best isn't just good enough for the team.
On Herrera, he's just not good enough. He's a turn over machine waiting to happen against high pressing team. The moment he found it difficult to control the midfield against a high pressing mdjtylland's midfield in the second leg despite the whole team having the game of their lives and the way he looked pathetic against a high pressing Watford team already shows Herrera's average level. The only time he's been good were against lethargic lazy teams like Arsenal and Everton who all failed to give him a good chase in the midfield..

elampiro:
That part is highly contestable.

Last season, Rooney, Mata and Herrera were in the team that won 6 matches in a row beating Spurs, Liverpool and City with good margin. Before then they went 11 matches unbeaten in the first half of the season.

This season, we started playing well when suddenly players got injured.

I think the problem is largely dependent on how LVG mix his players in midfield and defence too. LVG most effective formation is 4-1-4-1. If Carrick is the DM, there is has to Schneirderlin or Herrera or Rooney in front of him who can quickly drop to provide a cover. Lingard is also very mobile and defence minded.

If we play two in midfield, we should also ensure Schneirderlin gets in first.

Our defence has to be solid too. Having Smalling, Rojo and Darmian playing at same time gives a good Security at the base. Now Valencia is coming in, we could get back to that time we had the least goals conceded when we were top of the league.

GBR1:
Are you actually a United fan or just an opposition fan trolling for fun?
You won't get a reply if aren't a United but if you are actually one, then you deserve insults for spewing nonsense in such long posts.