helpee:
you want him to be exhaustive but when the doctor mentioned money you kept quiet. why didnt you pay for more investigations like you said? hospitals dont sell drugs like pharmacies. they sell services. the cost of the services is inbuilt in the cost of the drugs. the consultation is meant to pay the salaries of the doctors...somebody must pay for rent, medical waste disposal, power and several exhorbitant cost. learn how to pay ist then complain later

Sweetie i paid already. Im complaining now.
Yes. I kept quiet because i felt even preliminary consultation wasnt exhaustive. Im not a doc yeah.. but dont they at least check temp.

Also... defending charges with personal need is already old. Many professionals in many fields also have expenses too. And lab equipments are just as expensive as many other assets in other fields too. Its funny that when it comes to the real deal, people still have to fly to a near backward place like india.

With the way ur charges are defended, one would think u can handle it all.

abeeceebee:
It happened to me recently. My last child (child no 3) was a beatiful baby girl , most beautiful of all the three. Four weeks after she was born, she started loosing weight so I took her to d peadiatric unit of the health center to see d doc. A doc attended to me and after telling him my observation thinking he will diagnose her instead he just prescribed folic acid and vitamin c. After leaving his office I went to d nursing station, it was there I overheard him telling one of d nurses that my baby had down syndrome
Syndrome. On hearing this, I quickly log in to Goole to know what is the meaning of down syndrome. To cut the long story short I lost d baby four weeks after because she also had hole in the heart and she has lost all energy due to hard labour of sucking. If d doctor had told me earlier I would have known how to spoon feed her till God takes control of the situation. Nigerian doctors! Even though this one is supposed to be more experience being a government employed doctor.

May her soul rest in peace. Crazy docs. I generally google all symptoms b4 going to d hospital, and when d doc start speaking 'french', I flounce out!

InvertedHammer:

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The problem is from your end. As a mother you should educate yourself on basic healthcare like taking temperature, blood pressure, etc. It is not every little deviation of health status will warrant going to the hospital. You start off with OTC medications and if symptoms persist after a few days, then you see your doctor. All medications labels tell you so too. You could easily had done all the doctor did in less time, little effort and money.
The internet is not only used for social media. There is a plethora of information available online.

Btw, the doctor or nurse would need history to initiate treatment regimen that's why he was asking you those basic questions. It is a standard practice.
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My dear, i had already been taking care of my son at home. I checked his temp, and i spoke to a pharmacist who was familiar with him, he gave us d drugs he was already using. My mother inlaw insisted on going to the hospital, and i had to obey (nigerian family ish).

eyinjuege:


What do you want me to explain about the hospital policy of a private hospital for goodness sake. Every private hospital has their own policy, and I cannot speak for each and every private hospital.
Go to a general hospital, provided by the government that has a responsibility towards you.
In the UK by the way, private hospitals don't run emergency services. If you have an emergency, and you rush to a private hospital in the UK, you will be directed to the closest Accident and emergency whuchbis run by the NHS. I'm waiting for someone to try and dispute that

Wait. Are u saying private hospitals dont have a responsibility towards patients? like whats dat hipopotamus(serzly kidding o) oath all about?

ZubbyGodson:
Biggest lie of the weekend..........You aint a good write also

i didnt come here to be a writer, i came to air my experiences. Its ur opinion if its true or not. I know my truth.

Chidor6:
Like every profession my dear, there are less proficient doctors. You just have to find a good one and stick to them.

Exactly. Thats why i said "some" ive met some really great docs, in my pursuit for good health care.

tochimas:
, your own is even small,I was paying 4500 for a month prescription if carbimazole, this is apart from consultations fees oh, which I pay each time I come for refill oh, one day I was out of money and out of drug, decided to check around, my dear na so I buy the drug at one pharmacy at Ikeja at the price of 670 for a packet, and that packets lasts for 30 days oh, i once went to a hospital and and they requested I ran some test at their lab to find out what was wrong, no problems, I did at a cost of 3k, after that nko, I had malaria and typhoid which I had suspected, no problems again as I try as much as possible to seek trained medical personnel advice and not to self medicate. Na so they packed all cheap antibiotics and folic acids, those types they sell 90 naira and amoxicillin , the cheap ones they sell 100naira for packets, and they charged me 4000 naira, after the dosage finished, I was getting worse oh, I went back again and they charged me 7000 with some injections I can't tell what they were. I was already worse that I was before I came there, was about to go to worst when I borrowed myself sense and collected a prescription from a friend, a family nurse prescribed it for him and I had ignored it at the beginning because of my over sabi, went and bought the ciprotab with some vitamins and one malaria frugal line that from one pharmacy at the total price of 1200, I threw out all those useless drugs from hospital, I had shown them to the nurse at the pharmacy, she laughed and showed them to me and their prices, within two days, I was back to my feet but continued to finish my dosage. I did rather go to general hospital and collect prescription , then go to pharmacy to buy. I have lost count of number of times I have self medicated after wasting money on some stupid hospital.

Can you just imagine. And many of them defend all this by saying we have to drive cars. Medical treatment is expensive.

Doubleagent008:
Dear aggrieved OP i apologise. Not for the Doctor but for the system. We have all been screwed by the system at one point or the other. The doctor had his fault his patient communication skill left much to be desired. The part where you were worried about cost it is not totally his fault. Health care is expensive. You think it's cheaper in govt hospitals? No its not it's just that govt has subsidised it so that a CT Scan that should cost you around 150000- 200k now cost u around 70-100k. Don't let house MD and Greys anatomy series fool ya reality is very different. That being said for fees received services must be rendered i.e the doc collected money to treat he must treat (I'm saying all this from a one sided story - yours). BTW why do people think doctors' consultations should be free? Lawyers' aren't LoL.

I never said it should b free. I said he should at least be compassionate in the process.

I never compare nigeria ti any country abroad let alone the fuction those ones concoct.

Doctors are entitled to charge whatever they want. I just want value for my miney, and to be treated properly.

Theres nothing like good health. A sane person would pay anything for it.
Its sad when ur willing to pay anything to get smtn, and ur given a second class product.

armadeo:



honestly hes was the funniest comment on this thread. i just laugh and laugh when i read on such threads and have decided never to argue on such again. there is really no point. NEONATAL JAUNDICE!!! and all he could think of was buying ram.

GOd truly is wonderful and ignorance is bliss



theres another thread on the evils of patient behaviour after thay have been treated and now time to pay. everyman likes to shift the blame.




on a final note as someone said on this thread many of you have access to the internet. use it.

Ignorance is truly bliss. I guess UV light now comes in white? Or u were d attending physician, and as such conducted an indepth examination to arrive at ur NEONATAL JUANDICE?

Enjoy ur bliss, abeg! Incase u were worried, didn't end up buying a ram, actually added it for laughs. U and Onegal shouldn't be d kind of pple who end up as docs, u jump to conclusions too easily!

blackprowler:


These are called out of pocket costs. They're not even expensive sef. You know how much one car costs? Or to build a house? Or to pay rent for that hospital premises? Or to enrol a child in a good-quality school? These things are what the medical staff aim to acquire and do with proceeds from their services. Try the NHIS and other health insurance schemes. Nigerians should realise they must spend money on others in the same way they want to get money. The faster the money goes round, the bigger the GDP of the country

Hope u realise that every professional feels entitled to money to achieve all of this, and therefore, its no point. And when a patient is willing to pay, and has paid, do u now send them out to die? Because my problem with that issue was the fact that doc saud mum was well... go and live her life. We were expecting him telling us what to do... he just said dnt think too much, avoid salts.

He never told us we needed to monitor her bp regularly, he never told us we should all change our meal plan in order to help her eat healthy. He never told us she needed physiotherapy at least three times a week.

Some other doctor did.
Did he need more money to help us out?

teechudleyy:


I never said it should b free. I said he should at least be compassionate in the process.

I never compare nigeria ti any country abroad let alone the fuction those ones concoct.

Doctors are entitled to charge whatever they want. I just want value for my miney, and to be treated properly.

Theres nothing like good health. A sane person would pay anything for it.
Its sad when ur willing to pay anything to get smtn, and ur given a second class product.

Story of Naija, paying good money for some substandard sh_t!

Codyt:

I apologise but I want to deviate from that topic. What form of ear issues did your Bro have and what was the cause?

He was always running temperature, and always pulling his ears. He had something called otitis media or so. They said one membrane was inflamed. He was admitted and treated. After he was discharged, he used.to complain of itching but after a while, that was gone.

ashjay001:


Tnx madam. Got all d info I needed by word of mouth. A secondary school classmate, was one of d attending docs, gave me d lowdown.

Its also good to have doctor friends they can be very helpful if they are nit endtime doctors. I have a friend like that too.

sofadj:
Im not defending our healthcare cause we all know it leaves so much to be desired. But I laugh when atients expect the kind of treatment they watch in movies but are only able to pay 2% of what these guys pay in other countries.

See despite those bills you people complain of as being exorbitant, many private hospitals can't even pay for the services of a permanent doctor. That's why you go to some hospitals and they say they ask you to wait for them to call a doctor.

Healthcare is that expensive. if you were to take your mum who suffered stroke to one of those hospitals in the foreign movies we watch, guess how much you would have paid without insurance?

Why do u think we need to be caught up in the fantasies of movies to think we deserve some care? Look, we all know this is not even a developing country. Its underdeveloped. When i say mistreat, i dont mean malpractices... i meant the way they handle people, behave towards people.

My citations are from personal experience and therefore cannot be exhaustive of an apparent ill in our society we now see as normal

driyke007:
The way people bash doctors on nairaland sha. I wonder if it is the same Nigerian doctors that are excelling in other countries. In case people don't know the Saudi ministry of health alone recruited over a 100 doctors last year and just employed about 200 in March. Also mopping up B.sc nurses aggressively. The doctors are tired of the system too, and are leaving never to return. We can continue the blame game here.

Im sure when they get to saudi, they will up der game since the stakes are higher.
Obviously, some doctors are more concerned about the returns/rewards.

teechudleyy:


He was always running temperature, and always pulling his ears. He had something called otitis media or so. They said one membrane was inflamed. He was admitted and treated. After he was discharged, he used.to complain of itching but after a while, that was gone.

It's a good thing he's back to normal. But I'll like to ask where he was treated. My younger brother also having ear issues. It's actually tinnitus. Continous ringing in both ears. Can't hear with them too. He lip reads to communicate. We trying to get a hearing device. Do u know more about this?

teechudleyy:


Its also good to have doctor friends they can be very helpful if they are nit endtime doctors. I have a friend like that too.

Trust me now, I get like 3 of dem on call, with pharmacist join! I go as far as d 4th opinion! Person wey go mis-diagnose me go get witch!

ashjay001:


Story of Naija, paying good money for some substandard sh_t!

So so annoying. Some ppl go to church to pray for ise kekere, owo nla.

Codyt:

It's a good thing he's back to normal. But I'll like to ask where he was treated. My younger brother also having ear issues. It's actually tinnitus. Continous ringing in both ears. Can't hear with them too. He lip reads to communicate. We trying to get a hearing device. Do u know more about this?

I dont know much about ear problems. If not fr my nrothers case. Pls. Save ur bros hearing. Take him to lasuth. Before its too late. Deafness completely.turns a persons life around. And several opportunitirs are shut against them. Please. I pray all goes well. I'll try and contact my bros doctor. Whatever i find too, il mention u and let u know

ashjay001:


Trust me now, I get like 3 of dem on call, with pharmacist join! I go as far as d 4th opinion! Person wey go mis-diagnose me go get witch!

Thats d way forward o. I used to b careless when it came to my health versus doctors treatment. But now that i have a son, i have become a medical ninja. But im grateful to God he doesnt have serious health issues

teechudleyy:
5. My sister usually has serious chest pains. We went to d same hospitl as above. Doctor gave her ulcer drugs n said if it works, its ulcer. If it doesnt, come back

what they practice is trial and errow

tochimas:
it will be allowed in Nigeria cos of our lack of needed equipments but you can't do that in USA, you make the patient comfortable with some medications that were not intended to cure just make it bearable till test result it out, again some result of test takes ages to come out here but not some for the developed world , the minimum time for thyroid test here is 7 days for the fastest lab you can get at teaching hospital, but 2weeks if it's private hospital,but us, the following day, your lab result is ready. No wonder some of our Drs kill more people than they save. The only hospital I can vouch for is beehess at akowonjo where I had my baby, it was not only affordable with good service, plus they ask all the right questions and right affordable tests. My favorite when it comes to maternity and delivery

You see why I said ignorant Nigerians are the worst of them all. You educate them, yet they still choose ignorance. Any Dr that waits for test result before treating meningitis did not go to med school. You must start treatment first because the more time you waste the worse the complications. FYI I don't practice in Nigeria, so don't give me that bull crap about "in America" because you don't know shit. Tufiakwa. At least use Google before spewing rubbish. Anyway I blame the drs still left in that country

chiketee:
You see why I said ignorant Nigerians are the worst of them all. You educate them, yet they still choose ignorance. Any Dr that wastes for test result before treating meningitis did not go to med school. You must start treatment first because the more time you waste the worse the complications. FYI I don't practice in Nigeria, so don't give me that bull crap about "in America" because you don't know shit. Tufiakwa. At least use Google before spewing rubbish. Anyway I blame the drs still left in that country

End time doctor.

teechudleyy:


End time doctor.

Beginning time patient. Mcheewww

The way people feel good bashing and bad mouthing doctors is almost unreal. Most just feel they know because they have internet access or know a bit of high school biology or something of the sort.
Absolutely mind-boggling.

I don't blame the op I blame the docs for not explaining the reason behind their decisions. I took my time to read your post and most of what u complained about is due to poor communication btw you and your doctor. I will try and make you understand certain things.

U said they did not feed ur mum there is a reason, Stoke patients are at risk of aspiration that is y they sometimes don't feed oraly the drip she is recived is like food if you don't know
Ur mum most likely had an hemorrhagic stroke.the treatment is usually palliative except in severe cases where surgery is needed

u said doctor doctor was asking if cough was throaty and din't check the eyes,no doctor was born with MBBS cert it was painstakingly aquired with at least 6 yrs of training plus a year of intership so if he din't check the eyes it means based on the information you gave there was no reason to do so and throaty is an English word not a medical term all u had to do was ask for clarification.

U said they rejected the test you brought.most times this is because they don't trust the results. I have been in the hospital when a patient brought test results frm another hospital. The result estimated serum sodium to be 220mg/dl a figure that is not compatible with life

U said they charged ridiculous amount, whether you like it or not health care is expensive.
A brand new ultrasound machine cost around 6 million naira,anesthesia machine cost 10 million
Operating table btw 500,000 to 1milion. So how much do u want the doc to charge for his services after buying such expensive equipment

teechudleyy:


Sweetie i paid already. Im complaining now.
Yes. I kept quiet because i felt even preliminary consultation wasnt exhaustive. Im not a doc yeah.. but dont they at least check temp.

Also... defending charges with personal need is already old. Many professionals in many fields also have expenses too. And lab equipments are just as expensive as many other assets in other fields too. Its funny that when it comes to the real deal, people still have to fly to a near backward place like india.

With the way ur charges are defended, one would think u can handle it all.

ok. no point arguing with you. next time take your child to a charity hospital where they will sell paracetamol for 20naira. you paid less than 20dollars and you want consultation to be exhaustive. the backward india you talked about will collect millions from you to do common cs and people like you will pay 50k and rush to nairaland to complain. na poverty sha.

helpee:
ok. no point arguing with you. next time take your child to a charity hospital where they will sell paracetamol for 20naira. you paid less than 20dollars and you want consultation to be exhaustive. the backward india you talked about will collect millions from you to do common cs and people like you will pay 50k and rush to nairaland to complain. na poverty sha.

Ur still not caring about health care, but about money.
Enjoy ur millions while i manage in my poverty trying to find good health care. Are u happy now?

frm all i see here, d way many of u are screaming about the money means u just grab n take all u can get wen d opportunity comes. How very not povertyish.

tochimas:
, no be for Nigeria oh, they even get annoyed when you ask questions oh, been to just few hospital in the states for myself and baby oh, and the end of each test,it they find anything, they will explain with words, and still print out all literature on that ailment ,its available treatments ,what to expect, prevention and give them to you to home and read up.
But here I have had doctors shout me down for asking questions concerning his diagnosis.you can't even raise any concern about any of their proposed treatment or they will grow impatient and shout you down.

It is well. It's been a long time I last visited the doctors but I wouldn't allow any doctor shout at me.

bigsmoke2:
I don't blame the op I blame the docs for not explaining the reason behind their decisions. I took my time to read your post and most of what u complained about is due to poor communication btw you and your doctor. I will try and make you understand certain things.

U said they did not feed ur mum there is a reason, Stoke patients are at risk of aspiration that is y they sometimes don't feed oraly the drip she is recived is like food if you don't know
Ur mum most likely had an hemorrhagic stroke.the treatment is usually palliative except in severe cases where surgery is needed

u said doctor doctor was asking if cough was throaty and din't check the eyes,no doctor was born with MBBS cert it was painstakingly aquired with at least 6 yrs of training plus a year of intership so if he din't check the eyes it means based on the information you gave there was no reason to do so and throaty is an English word not a medical term all u had to do was ask for clarification.

U said they rejected the test you brought.most times this is because they don't trust the results. I have been in the hospital when a patient brought test results frm another hospital. The result estimated serum sodium to be 220mg/dl a figure that is not compatible with life

U said they charged ridiculous amount, whether you like it or not health care is expensive.
A brand new ultrasound machine cost around 6 million naira,anesthesia machine cost 10 million
Operating table btw 500,000 to 1milion. So how much do u want the doc to charge for his services after buying such expensive equipment

I dont know if u are a medical practitioner but ur the only one who has made sense in the process of opposing whatever i have said. Yes i am not a numb skull, and i will always stand by what is true.

When i said he didnt check his eye, im not expressly saying thats what he must do... i meant that he didnt even look at the boy, and check his eye or temperature... or whatever. I dnt know. But i know docs do smtn. Anything.

Any doctor can charge any amount they want. U cant go to a persons establishment and force your own idea on them. My pain is... after paying however little u have charged, I expect to b cared for the way i saw them care for me at some other place... its not about the money. Remember this post says "some"

I have been to hospitals that take care or at least show empathy, and i have been to others where the doctor has a money conscious you-can-go- to-hell attitude.

Many doctors/people here refuse to accept that there can be flaws in some doctors approach to health care, and they cry unappreciation. That just shows the God like complex someone talked about earlier.

teechudleyy:


Ur still not caring about health care, but about money.
Enjoy ur millions while i manage in my poverty trying to find good health care. Are u happy now?

frm all i see here, d way many of u are screaming about the money means u just grab n take all u can get wen d opportunity comes. How very not povertyish.

my friend, you are so so ignorant. you probably got half baked education. no wonder the doctor was asking you sound questions like the characteristic of the cough and you were so concerned about what you know nothing about . for your information, health care is so expensive. how do i care about your health without money? if i care about your health money....i mean good money must be available. to set up an averagely standard hospital, youu need nothing less than 100million but to set up a real standard hospital, you need billions and it is either people pay for it or insurance pays and the cost of their paracetamol will not be 20naira. it is the charity mentality of you people that destroyed our health sector. go back and thank the doctor for taking care of your ward. you didnt pay his school fees

helpee:
my friend, you are so so ignorant. you probably got half baked education. no wonder the doctor was asking you sound questions like the characteristic of the cough and you were so concerned about what you know nothing about . for your information, health care is so expensive. how do i care about your health without money? if i care about your health money....i mean good money must be available. to set up an averagely standard hospital, youu need nothing less than 100million but to set up a real standard hospital, you need billions and it is either people pay for it or insurance pays and the cost of their paracetamol will not be 20naira. it is the charity mentality of you people that destroyed our health sector. go back and thank the doctor for taking care of your ward. you didnt pay his school fees

One would think you were too good to reply me. But here you are with all your education and intelligence, beating the same point, even though the person u are talking to already got.the point. You now resort to the cheap and immature attitude of insulting a person. I hope that makes your sunday. As for me, i will be the bigger person and ignore you. Your intelligence is questionable and u sound too hungry to reason with.