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princeSammyz:
Ignored sins? I think using cracked softwares, games and free browsing cheats should have made d list. and maybe nairalanding from church too. lol

Dklef:
Thank you for your responce, "No priest or pastor can enforce it. It is strictly between you and God"


Thus my second question, "Why do Pastors lay a greater emphasis on tithing more than every other biblical texts"

because if its really between i and my God, then i see no reason why you should start judging or questioning my faithfulnes to my creator with sometime that's none of your business in the first place.

I do not 'refuse' to pay tithe, i simply do not have enough sometimes, to give.
And if truely, God is the almaighty who is got everything; including riches in his hands, why do you thinks its wise for me to give the little i have to Someone who's got it all?

postmann:
Make me sef quote you!

Tithing is of GOD. It is HIS requirement. It is well supported in the new testament.

No priest or pastor can enforce it. It is strictly between you and GOD.

Do christians who refuse to pay tithes committing sin? A big YES!!!

ButterFlyEffect:
Nice post and so true

Elxandre:
Where is it well supported in the new testament?
Why is there no record of any of the apostles paying tithes?

datola:
Coveting is so rampant among we Christians. The height of it is when a church is coveting other church's members in the name of evangelism. We are to reach out to sinners and lead them to Christ.

"But covet earnestly the best gift: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way" 1 Cor.12:31

Annunaki:
6. Twisting scriptures
There are several false doctrines being peddled around the church today which partly accounts for the proliferation of churches. A very good example of a false doctrine derived from twisting scriptures is the tithe doctrine which is very popular in our churches today yet the bible makes it clear that it is a sin to add to or take away from scriptures.

BossTtdiamonds:
I love your eyes... They are beautiful.

Damtha:
Not true for the 5%

postmann:
Matthew 23:23 is the best example of the new testament. Notice how CHRIST ended that verse "without neglecting the rest"

Even the Pharisees paid tithe. That there was no record of the appostles paying tithe doesn't prove or disprove anything.

asalimpo:
This is sad.

How will he be preaching against fornication now or co-habiting?

Elxandre:
Tithe was mentioned once in the new testament!

It was supposed to be deducted from farm produce, hence no mention of financial payment of tithes.

Did any of the famous men of old who owned animals pay ten percent of their livestock as tithes?

babyfaceafrica:
you must be a pastor.....so some people can actually quote old testament when it comes to tithe ,but when it pertains to other discussions like an arm for an arm and marrying more than one wives ,some will say that was before Jesus come.....a good lot of christains quote the bible to soothe themselves

Olusanya333:
Dudes quoting Paul, Peter and James as scriptures, you all still get a long way to go.

asalimpo:
Tithe is God's stake in your increase. It's God's. Besides, if it were really to help the poor anti-tithers are clamouring about (which isnt), the issue wouldnt be about how much to pay or not pay but how to channel th e funds. This isnt the case. Yes, paying the tithe signifies belief in God to provide for your financially, because when you release the tithe (and offering), inspite of it being a chunk of your earnings, you believe
that the One who gave you the increase from which the tithe (and offering came from) will/can continue to give your more increasse to meet your daily needs. You believe that He will sustain you on the left over ,after the tithe and offering have been deducted. It takes faith to live like this.

DharmyYinks:
Tithe is not a twist of the scripture! If u read d Book of Numbers, u'll know that 10% is a little thing compared to the offerings d Israelites give on "fixed" times.

Change ur notion towards tithing... It's only a foolish person who will not give back to God

Annunaki:
6. Twisting scriptures
There are several false doctrines being peddled around the church today which partly accounts for the proliferation of churches. A very good example of a false doctrine derived from twisting scriptures is the tithe doctrine which is very popular in our churches today yet the bible makes it clear that it is a sin to add to or take away from scriptures.

babyfaceafrica:
you must be a pastor.....so some people can actually quote old testament when it comes to tithe ,but when it pertains to other discussions like an arm for an arm and marrying more than one wives ,some will say that was before Jesus come.....a good lot of christains quote the bible to soothe themselves

DharmyYinks:
Thanks! Nice hair!!

DharmyYinks:
Tithe is not a twist of the scripture! If u read d Book of Numbers, u'll know that 10% is a little thing compared to the offerings d Israelites give on "fixed" times.

Change ur notion towards tithing... It's only a foolish person who will not give back to God

Originalsly:
Is this what your pastor fed you?....or is this what you are feeding your followers? Tithes belong to God..... are you or your pastor god?... because it's the pastor that collects the cash....and decides how to squander spend it.....is he god?....and why is tithes always about cash?...did you ever ask or was asked to turn in a tenth of your catfish?...or chicken?...or yams?... or your harvest? .. or invite the poor to partake? ..... aren't these not part of the directive on tithes?....or those pages from your Bible missing? Abeg...enlighten me....and don't pretend you didn't read this....nor give me the worn out cover all answer like this is spiritual matter which I not spiritual enough to understand.

malvisguy212:
If I am saved, why do I still sin? Why do I have
such a problem with sin while I am here on
earth? Why am I still troubled with impure
thoughts? Why do I sometimes do what I know
is wrong? Why do I sometimes fail to do what I
know is right? Why do I continue to battle with
temptations? Why do I sometimes live and act
like an unsaved person (see 1 Cor. 3:3), even
though it grieves me and saddens me when I
live this way? In 2 cor 5:17 it say the believers has a NEW NATURE. Now that I have a new nature, what has happened to my old sinful nature? Did it disappear? Was it transformed from something evil to something good? Was it totally removed? Was it partially removed? If the believer says that he has no sin (no sin
nature), is he telling the truth or is he deceiving
himself ? Bible say in 1 john 1:8-10

8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we
confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will
forgive us our sins and purify us from all
unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not
sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his
word is not in us.

The old sinful nature has not been eradicated
or removed. It is still present with the believer.
James 3:2 refers to believers and it says, "For in many things we offend all" or literally "For in
many things we all offend." The word "offend"
means that we all stumble, fall short, and go
astray. We all fail and fall. Even as believers we all have sinned. We all offend, and therefore we all are in desperate need of the mercy and grace of God and in desperate need of His forgiveness and cleansing. In 1 peter 5:8 the bible say BEWERE. If you are save and the sinful nature is removed completely, WHY BEWERE ?

Paul, as a saved man, made the following
amazing statements:

Romans 7:14-25
14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am
unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not
understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[ c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. 21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature[ d] a slave to the law of sin.

A save man has TWO nature, Good and bad, the one you feed the most will dominate your life.

malvisguy212:
If I am saved, why do I still sin? Why do I have
such a problem with sin while I am here on
earth? Why am I still troubled with impure
thoughts? Why do I sometimes do what I know
is wrong? Why do I sometimes fail to do what I
know is right? Why do I continue to battle with
temptations? Why do I sometimes live and act
like an unsaved person (see 1 Cor. 3:3), even
though it grieves me and saddens me when I
live this way? In 2 cor 5:17 it say the believers has a NEW NATURE. Now that I have a new nature, what has happened to my old sinful nature? Did it disappear? Was it transformed from something evil to something good? Was it totally removed? Was it partially removed? If the believer says that he has no sin (no sin
nature), is he telling the truth or is he deceiving
himself ? Bible say in 1 john 1:8-10

8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we
confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will
forgive us our sins and purify us from all
unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not
sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his
word is not in us.

The old sinful nature has not been eradicated
or removed. It is still present with the believer.
James 3:2 refers to believers and it says, "For in many things we offend all" or literally "For in
many things we all offend." The word "offend"
means that we all stumble, fall short, and go
astray. We all fail and fall. Even as believers we all have sinned. We all offend, and therefore we all are in desperate need of the mercy and grace of God and in desperate need of His forgiveness and cleansing. In 1 peter 5:8 the bible say BEWERE. If you are save and the sinful nature is removed completely, WHY BEWERE ?

Paul, as a saved man, made the following
amazing statements:

Romans 7:14-25
14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am
unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not
understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[ c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. 21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature[ d] a slave to the law of sin.

A save man has TWO nature, Good and bad, the one you feed the most will dominate your life.

malvisguy212:
If I am saved, why do I still sin? Why do I have
such a problem with sin while I am here on
earth? Why am I still troubled with impure
thoughts? Why do I sometimes do what I know
is wrong? Why do I sometimes fail to do what I
know is right? Why do I continue to battle with
temptations? Why do I sometimes live and act
like an unsaved person (see 1 Cor. 3:3), even
though it grieves me and saddens me when I
live this way? In 2 cor 5:17 it say the believers has a NEW NATURE. Now that I have a new nature, what has happened to my old sinful nature? Did it disappear? Was it transformed from something evil to something good? Was it totally removed? Was it partially removed? If the believer says that he has no sin (no sin
nature), is he telling the truth or is he deceiving
himself ? Bible say in 1 john 1:8-10

8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive
ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we
confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will
forgive us our sins and purify us from all
unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not
sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his
word is not in us.

The old sinful nature has not been eradicated
or removed. It is still present with the believer.
James 3:2 refers to believers and it says, "For in many things we offend all" or literally "For in
many things we all offend." The word "offend"
means that we all stumble, fall short, and go
astray. We all fail and fall. Even as believers we all have sinned. We all offend, and therefore we all are in desperate need of the mercy and grace of God and in desperate need of His forgiveness and cleansing. In 1 peter 5:8 the bible say BEWERE. If you are save and the sinful nature is removed completely, WHY BEWERE ?

Paul, as a saved man, made the following
amazing statements:

Romans 7:14-25
14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am
unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not
understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[ c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. 21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature[ d] a slave to the law of sin.

A save man has TWO nature, Good and bad, the one you feed the most will dominate your life.

ilevic:
God bless u for this but I am not personally comfortable with this as I appears as of as Christians, we av a ual nature. the nature of God that bounds us with God and the nature that give us chance to sin. I will like to refer u to read 1John 3:1-10. particularly Verses 6-10.
NIV:See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him.
2
NIV:Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
3
NIV:All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
4
NIV:Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.
5
NIV:But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.
6
NIV:No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
7
NIV:Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous.
8
NIV:The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.
9
NIV:No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.

Peace be unto u.

Festivalofholi:
Op you miss the most common one- fornication. 95% of christains fornicate. While the other 5% can't find who to bleep.

babyfaceafrica:
you must be a pastor.....giving to the needy is better

DharmyYinks:
lol.. Am not a Pastor.

"Giving" generally is a gud thing. And giving includes giving to d needy nd also giving back to God.. tru tithe!

babyfaceafrica:
you must be a pastor.....so some people can actually quote old testament when it comes to tithe ,but when it pertains to other discussions like an arm for an arm and marrying more than one wives ,some will say that was before Jesus come.....a good lot of christains quote the Bible to soothe themselves

ceejay80s:
In this our present time, when has God come down from heaven to collect the tithe ?
Continue trecking and pastors will be buying jets and building universities even ur children can't afford to attend

kurlz:
It's a lie!
that percentage is wrong beds,
there are one thousand and one people out there ready to give it to you even more than you can imagine, some people(Christians) they just chose to abstain.

NB: I'm speaking from experience.

tunjijones:
The percentage given in the book of numbers is called tax.... So wld u pay tax to Nigerian government and still pay tax to the pastor? This is called double taxation.