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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by remros2: 1:47am On Apr 04, 2016
remros2:
my ogas in the house pls what steps should be taken to normalise or control excessive heat and water temperature in order to assist fish growth?
kindly answer my question pls someone
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by serikiYCU(m): 6:38am On Apr 04, 2016
Great work OP, Tnx for the info

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ifedayour007(m): 1:39pm On Apr 04, 2016
robonski15:
Now if you don't feed your fish regularly they will not grow .. And u should know the size of feed you give to them at the right time.. Feeding should be three times a day but at the third month feed them twice a day while ate the last month u full feed once a day..

At the third month farmers tend to switch to local feed and they sort for a good local feed... Back then I used local feed, I had a good combination but I found out that most of the ingredient are adultarated, especially the fish meal.. And fish meal is the main ingredient to produce a good feed and for rapid growth.. Some farmers include blood meal but I bet that majority of the so called blood meal are not they are sometimes burnt tyre.. I know right now u may be wandering but yes that's the truth..Pardon me to use broken english abeg "dis my leg don waka because of this feed formulation wetin I see na only God know" Am not saying there aint no good ingredient out there but most of them are fake, and u feed your fish and realise that they don't grow as expected..

So I stopped using local feed and
I deviced a method that after three month I switch to VITAL feed.. If u compare the cost of vital feed and the local feed we spend time and energy on its not that big.. And truthfully vital feed is not an imported feed it is made here in nigeria so to me vital feed is also a local feed.. Some farmers may say we do local feed to reduce cost and I laugh at their ignorance.. It is better to go straight to the point than cutting corners and whereby you may still be cheated on the local feed.. When u have a good fish its better you feed them with quality to harvest quality..

CHANGE YOUR WATER
I have been to farms where the water is so polluted and stinks.. I wonder how such farmers reason.. Its just like putting 20 people in a single room and u shut the door and window what do u think will happen over time..

If u don't change the water as at when due the enviroment of the fishes will be too polluted to encourage good feeding.. The fishes urine,faeces and dissolve excess feed pollute the water and they wount eat well or digest the food because of polluted enviroment..





Dear Sir. I sent you a message here sometimes last week, but you didn't reply, so I am doing again no and I hope to get a reply from you this time.
I invested over 1 million Naira on raising catfish 2 years ago, but I ran at loss, some of my fishes were stolen and the rest didn't grow well so I quit. But I still feel I did something wrong then, the management was poor, I didn't use good feed, I used some local feed formula I got from a friend and I also had problem with security issue. But recently I aquired some lands and I would still love to invest again on catfish farming, but I don't want to go wrong again, I want to do it right this time, I have passion for farming. Please I would really love to meet or talk to you here on Nairaland or Private chat. Please I don't want to ever mistake again.. Ifedayookunola@yahoo.com
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 5:14pm On Apr 04, 2016
remros2:
@excelsior and other ogas, how can I ensure that my formulated feed is properly dry to avoid aflatoxin which kills fishes?
best technique, sun dry,except u choose to use fan or dryer, sorry i have to be off thread for sometime, need to attend to some crucial things also, pls
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 5:40pm On Apr 04, 2016
remros2:
kindly answer my question pls someone
note: too much of either d cold or hot is bad for fishes. If too cold your fishes won't eat well, if too hot? they become stressed & possible disease outbreak. Now to the main course, just get palm front, tarpaulin or good material that could cover like 60% of a side of your pond at least, it will regulate d heat to some extent. If extreme heat increase d % of coverage. That will combat the challenge u might have. It is also a good way to know a sick/disease or weak fish, the healthy ones will hide under d shade & d sick ones will be mostly at d open end, though they all come to the open end when u feed the fishes. Other ideas is to do dripping if mobile tanks or put your tanks close to trees, banana etc.For earthen , heaven do the regulations, though no harm planting banana around your ponds
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by remros2: 10:31pm On Apr 04, 2016
excelsiorfarm:
gd morning,op permit me to write about our practical catfish hatchery & catfish management training coming up on 21st June 2013,this friday at bodija ibadan.For those interested,u can reach me on 08035335647 & 08028919405.solomonsgn@yahoo.com
oga excelsior, pls when are u organising another practical catfish hatchery and catfish management training here in ibadan. Pls I will want to participate, and my email is oluremiolabode@gmail.com. No 08034723763
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by remros2: 10:39pm On Apr 04, 2016
excelsiorfarm:
note: too much of either d cold or hot is bad for fishes. If too cold your fishes won't eat well, if too hot? they become stressed & possible disease outbreak. Now to the main course, just get palm front, tarpaulin or good material that could cover like 60% of a side of your pond at least, it will regulate d heat to some extent. If extreme heat increase d % of coverage. That will combat the challenge u might have. It is also a good way to know a sick/disease or weak fish, the healthy ones will hide under d shade & d sick ones will be mostly at d open end, though they all come to the open end when u feed the fishes. Other ideas is to do dripping if mobile tanks or put your tanks close to trees, banana etc.For earthen , heaven do the regulations, though no harm planting banana around your ponds
thanks so much sir@excelsior. I'm grateful for the insight on handling heat in plastic fish tanks
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by matrixme(m): 6:58am On Apr 05, 2016
Good morning all. Please which type of net can I use as hapa to breed in a big pond? I am planning to do a cage setup to put inside the pond
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Whytdawn: 12:00pm On Apr 05, 2016
please i hv fingerlings,juveniles and post fingerlings for sale. contact me through dis no;08080108995 for more info.Am sowie dr roboski for using ur thread. thanks.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by remros2: 2:23pm On Apr 05, 2016
robonski15:


Please read my post again carefully I didn't say one can raise juvenile with #75.. I said I pegged it down at #150 to raise the juveniles to maturity.. And to raise 500 juveniles u have to multiply by #150 that will give us
#75,000 to raise them to maturity...

NB. The price for raising them also depends on the type of feed you give to them and the feeding regimes and also the time of harvest so it may be lesser or higher than #75,000.. Thanks
Talking of feeding regiments sir@ oga Robonski, as a fresher, how do I determine d amount of feed I give to my juvenile or bigger fishes as at when due. Also how many times do I feed them as juveniles or as bigger fish. To be specific let's use 1000 pieces as example. And the pond type is plastic tank if it could make a difference in feeding pattern. Thank you.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by remros2: 2:25pm On Apr 05, 2016
robonski15:


Please read my post again carefully I didn't say one can raise juvenile with #75.. I said I pegged it down at #150 to raise the juveniles to maturity.. And to raise 500 juveniles u have to multiply by #150 that will give us
#75,000 to raise them to maturity...

NB. The price for raising them also depends on the type of feed you give to them and the feeding regimes and also the time of harvest so it may be lesser or higher than #75,000.. Thanks
Talking of feeding regiments sir@ oga Robonski, as a fresher, how do I determine d amount of feed I give to my juvenile or bigger fishes as at when due. Also how many times do I feed them as juveniles or as bigger fish. To be specific let's use 1000 pieces as example. And the pond type is plastic tank if it could make a difference in feeding pattern. Thank you.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by remros2: 2:31pm On Apr 05, 2016
robonski15:


Please read my post again carefully I didn't say one can raise juvenile with #75.. I said I pegged it down at #150 to raise the juveniles to maturity.. And to raise 500 juveniles u have to multiply by #150 that will give us
#75,000 to raise them to maturity...

NB. The price for raising them also depends on the type of feed you give to them and the feeding regimes and also the time of harvest so it may be lesser or higher than #75,000.. Thanks

Talking of feeding regiments sir@ oga Robonski, as a fresher, how do I determine d amount of feed I give to my juvenile or bigger fishes as at when due. Also how many times do I feed them as juveniles or as bigger fish. To be specific let's use 1000 pieces as example. And the pond type is plastic tank if it could make a difference in feeding pattern. Thank you.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by hardey4: 4:24pm On Apr 05, 2016
@ Mr Robonski,
I was opportuned to read your write-up on Cat Fish farming,i was really impressed.I am planning to venture into this business but i need tutelage from successful farmers like you.Please can you contact me on this email; adey_4@yahoo.com or on my mobile;08100545617.
I need to discuss consultancy and practical training on Cat fish farming with you.Thanks for your anticipated response.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 12:37am On Apr 06, 2016
remros2:
Pls Robonski15 and other ogas in NL, how do I eliminate solids like leftover feeds etc that are not likely to move out with water when water is being changed in a plastic fish tank? Thanks in anticipation of ur assistance
To start with, why should you have such amount of left over in your pond in. The first place? It means you are not only wasting your feed which will culminate into reduction in your profit, you are also stressing your fish with the presence of left over feed while you'll. Stress them the more when siphoning which will result into mortality of some fishes. Please, I won't just treat the issue by telling you to SIPHON the dirt but I'll like to deal with root of the situation by telling you to learn how to feed your fish adequately. Thank you.

Wishing you all the very best!!!
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 1:27am On Apr 06, 2016
remros2:
thanks so much sir@excelsior. I'm grateful for the insight on handling heat in plastic fish tanks
Well said by excelsior. But let me add a few lines. You can also introduce flow through system in case of heat while you introduce heater in case of extreme cold.

Wishing you all the very best!!!
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 2:02am On Apr 06, 2016
vickifeanyi47:
Pls what can be used to disinfect new tarpaulin pond before use
Sun/air dry first so that the smell can evaporate. Wash with salt solution and (or) formalin. You can also disinfect with dried grassor wet plantain leaves. Use of bladgon is also good.

Wishing you all the very best!!!
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 2:08am On Apr 06, 2016
matrixme:
Good morning all. Please which type of net can I use as hapa to breed in a big pond? I am planning to do a cage setup to put inside the pond
Use normal mosquito net sir! You can also use those black net used by aluminium guys. For the window.

Wishing you all the very best!!!
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 2:42am On Apr 06, 2016
remros2:
Talking of feeding regiments sir@ oga Robonski, as a fresher, how do I determine d amount of feed I give to my juvenile or bigger fishes as at when due. Also how many times do I feed them as juveniles or as bigger fish. To be specific let's use 1000 pieces as example. And the pond type is plastic tank if it could make a difference in feeding pattern. Thank you.
There's no law to the amount of feed to give to your fish per time. All you need to do is to feed to satisfaction but DON'T OVER FEED to the point that you are leaving left over feed on top of the pond. Such practice will eat into your profit and at the same time polute your water which can end up in killing your fish. I personally don't believe nor give formular for feeding regime. This is because, farmer A that feed his fish EFFECTIVELY once or two twice a day will have a better yield to farmer B that feeds SPARINGLY 4times a day. All that matters is the QUALITY & the QUANTITY of feed that you are giving to your fish. Also, you have to be conscious of the cost of your production. That should GUIDE you to know how much to expend on your production. Always carry out a constant market survey analysis to know both the current production cost and the selling price. Endeavour to always monitor the growth/weight of your fish also on weekly basis by randomly picking and weighting some fish. You MUST also train yourself on RECORD KEEPING. Detailed book keeping will help you to know when to sell your fish because you have an idea of what your production cost should be. Hence, you begin to prepare yourself for the harvest once you've spent the expected production cost per unit on them.
The reason why you should not exceed the production cost of your environment or locality is because you are selling your fish to the same people that will buy from other farmers around you.

Wishing you all the very best!!!
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bily(m): 5:59am On Apr 06, 2016
NUVEMBARZINTL:

There's no law to the amount of feed to give to your fish per time. All you need to do is to feed to satisfaction but DON'T OVER FEED to the point that you are leaving left over feed on top of the pond. Such practice will eat into your profit and at the same time polute your water which can end up in killing your fish. I personally don't believe nor give formular for feeding regime. This is because, farmer A that feed his fish EFFECTIVELY once or two twice a day will have a better yield to farmer B that feeds SPARINGLY 4times a day. All that matters is the QUALITY & the QUANTITY of feed that you are giving to your fish. Also, you have to be conscious of the cost of your production. That should GUIDE you to know how much to expend on your production. Always carry out a constant market survey analysis to know both the current production cost and the selling price. Endeavour to always monitor the growth/weight of your fish also on weekly basis by randomly picking and weighting some fish. You MUST also train yourself on RECORD KEEPING. Detailed book keeping will help you to know when to sell your fish because you have an idea of what your production cost should be. Hence, you begin to prepare yourself for the harvest once you've spent the expected production cost per unit on them.
The reason why you should not exceed the production cost of your environment or locality is because you are selling your fish to the same people that will buy from other farmers around you.

Wishing you all the very best!!!

Well said Sir,

On the issue of feeding, I personally do not practice feeding to satisfaction. The current set of fishes I have, if I were to be feeding till satisfaction, Na Gbese u go enter, those fishes can eat ehn!

What I do is a follow a feeding table recommended by coppens, the simple reason I follow coppens feeding table is because it's in line with my personal targets ie to achieve average size of 1kg fish in 4 months from 10g juveniles.

I feed them the quantity coppens recommends per day,if they like let them still be acting hungry, what I have discovered is every week when I take a sample of their weight, it corresponds with the weight it should be on the feeding table so I know I'm on track.

I have discovered that feeding to satiation could lead to wastage of feed, catfish will eat more than their stomach can take, and they will gradually vomit it. For those using earthen may not notice this, but if you're using concrete and observant, you may see it.

Just my observation though, this has been what has been working for me, even for fries, I take weight samples and feed accordingly to feeding table, let's just say I prefer the scientific approach to farming. grin

the most important thing is to have an idea of what your fishes should eat and not to be too far off the mark. Imagine giving your fishes 10kg of feed per day when they ought to be eating 40kg, that difference is much and will lead to bad result or extend your harvest time. So the feeding table can act as a guideline, nothing is cast in stone and they are different ways to skin a cat, the Koko na for all of us to keep smiling to and from the bank wink

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by matrixme(m): 7:06am On Apr 06, 2016
NUVEMBARZINTL:

Use normal mosquito net sir! You can also use those black net used by aluminium guys. For the window.

Wishing you all the very best!!!
Thanks for the prompt reply sir.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Sejeje: 12:43pm On Apr 06, 2016
chilanfarms:
Heterobranchus longifilis broodstock for sale, also available Dutch Claria brood stock for detalis contact us on 07065874135/08076515345
I need about 500 fingerlings
do you have
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by jaz(m): 2:06pm On Apr 06, 2016
whats your location
Sejeje:

I need about 500 fingerlings
do you have
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Oduugo(f): 2:38pm On Apr 06, 2016
Onyi Best- 4, Agbongbon Street, off Ladipo Street Mushin. 08023106627. Good day house pls where can I get tarpaulin in lagos[/quote]
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Sejeje: 6:57pm On Apr 06, 2016
jaz:
whats your location
moniya in Ibadan
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by mozek24: 8:13pm On Apr 06, 2016
bily:


Well said Sir,

On the issue of feeding, I personally do not practice feeding to satisfaction. The current set of fishes I have, if I were to be feeding till satisfaction, Na Gbese u go enter, those fishes can eat ehn!

What I do is a follow a feeding table recommended by coppens, the simple reason I follow coppens feeding table is because it's in line with my personal targets ie to achieve average size of 1kg fish in 4 months from 10g juveniles.

I feed them the quantity coppens recommends per day,if they like let them still be acting hungry, what I have discovered is every week when I take a sample of their weight, it corresponds with the weight it should be on the feeding table so I know I'm on track.

I have discovered that feeding to satiation could lead to wastage of feed, catfish will eat more than their stomach can take, and they will gradually vomit it. For those using earthen may not notice this, but if you're using concrete and observant, you may see it.

Just my observation though, this has been what has been working for me, even for fries, I take weight samples and feed accordingly to feeding table, let's just say I prefer the scientific approach to farming. grin

the most important thing is to have an idea of what your fishes should eat and not to be too far off the mark. Imagine giving your fishes 10kg of feed per day when they ought to be eating 40kg, that difference is much and will lead to bad result or extend your harvest time. So the feeding table can act as a guideline, nothing is cast in stone and they are different ways to skin a cat, the Koko na for all of us to keep smiling to and from the bank wink




Pls kindly publish the feeding table you use. This will be beneficial to us as most of us seem to practise "old school" methods.
Thank you.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by miqos02(m): 9:04pm On Apr 06, 2016
pls can u help with a copy of the coppens feeding guide?
bily:


Well said Sir,

wink
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by miqos02(m): 9:09pm On Apr 06, 2016
coppens feeding guide

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjVx6De5_rLAhXGPBQKHYH6Ct0QFgghMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coppens.eu%2Fgallery%2FEngelse_brochures%2F2013%2FVoederprotocollen%2Ffp_catco_en_2013mail.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHLOBx0SLUo4Gg6Ob-RXuuyze20pw&sig2=k6k6ozMy6qh0AVT7DSYTbQ

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by mozek24: 10:09pm On Apr 06, 2016
miqos02:
coppens feeding guide

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjVx6De5_rLAhXGPBQKHYH6Ct0QFgghMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coppens.eu%2Fgallery%2FEngelse_brochures%2F2013%2FVoederprotocollen%2Ffp_catco_en_2013mail.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHLOBx0SLUo4Gg6Ob-RXuuyze20pw&sig2=k6k6ozMy6qh0AVT7DSYTbQ

Thank you
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 10:57pm On Apr 06, 2016
bily:


Well said Sir,

On the issue of feeding, I personally do not practice feeding to satisfaction. The current set of fishes I have, if I were to be feeding till satisfaction, Na Gbese u go enter, those fishes can eat ehn!

What I do is a follow a feeding table recommended by coppens, the simple reason I follow coppens feeding table is because it's in line with my personal targets ie to achieve average size of 1kg fish in 4 months from 10g juveniles.

I feed them the quantity coppens recommends per day,if they like let them still be acting hungry, what I have discovered is every week when I take a sample of their weight, it corresponds with the weight it should be on the feeding table so I know I'm on track.

I have discovered that feeding to satiation could lead to wastage of feed, catfish will eat more than their stomach can take, and they will gradually vomit it. For those using earthen may not notice this, but if you're using concrete and observant, you may see it.

Just my observation though, this has been what has been working for me, even for fries, I take weight samples and feed accordingly to feeding table, let's just say I prefer the scientific approach to farming. grin

the most important thing is to have an idea of what your fishes should eat and not to be too far off the mark. Imagine giving your fishes 10kg of feed per day when they ought to be eating 40kg, that difference is much and will lead to bad result or extend your harvest time. So the feeding table can act as a guideline, nothing is cast in stone and they are different ways to skin a cat, the Koko na for all of us to keep smiling to and from the bank wink
Well said... I understand your points. But please if I may ask, can you post the Coppens feeding chart for all to see?

Wishing you all the very best!!!
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by NUVEMBARZINTL(m): 10:59pm On Apr 06, 2016
matrixme:

Thanks for the prompt reply sir.
You are welcome sir!

Wishing you all the very best!!!
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 6:44am On Apr 07, 2016
Sejeje:

I need about 500 fingerlings
do you have
# to wic state? Yes I have.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bily(m): 7:17am On Apr 07, 2016
NUVEMBARZINTL:

Well said... I understand your points. But please if I may ask, can you post the Coppens feeding chart for all to see?

Wishing you all the very best!!!

Someone already dropped a link above your comment, it's the same feeding table.

I just expanded it on excel for personal use

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