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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by 9jatatafo(m): 6:41pm On Apr 14, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


When were they on her neck?

When she took the first one billion dollars or the second one billion dollars from the ECA?

It was after she removed two billion dollars from the ECA, the Governors could not take it anymore.

I feel the blame should be collective

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by DrSuleiman100: 6:42pm On Apr 14, 2016
I think it is now clear to all the wailers that the current economic hardship is not just starting but an aftermath of bad leadership of the past government. The only thing we need do now is to keep praying for the current government to be able to actualize the good things they have for us. Wailers should go and rest. Shikena.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by maupe: 6:43pm On Apr 14, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Six percent growth on paper. If we were growing six percent as you say, why were our reserves depleting and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala withdrawing from the ECA.
I guess you also bought fuel on paper back then

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 6:43pm On Apr 14, 2016
omenka:
Let me ask you a simple question in the hope that you give me an honest straightforward answer: what exactly can we hold NOI and Jonathan accountable for in he last admin?
NOI was the Co-ordinating Minister of the Economy while GEJ was the President. So they are to take responsibility.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by anonimi: 6:43pm On Apr 14, 2016
Reminder for those who may want to forget.


FG, States, LGs Share N568.4 Billion for Oct



[img]http://cdn1.vanguardngr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/412x247xOkonjo-Iweala-e1442838220305.jpg.pagespeed.ic.nz-K0adxSv.webp[/img]



Also, $1billion was proposed for distribution to complement shortfall in expected revenue." The $1billion is a compromise by the FG over its words in September not to augment shortfalls anymore.

Responding to the presentation, the chairman of the States Commissioners of Finance and Ebonyi State Commissioner of Finance, Mr Timothy Odaah, lamented that the statutory allocation was getting smaller and smaller. "It appears this is the worst in terms of returns. This is the least in allocations as far as this year is concerned. We are mourning the dearth of funds and this is a wakeup call for states and local governments to buoy up their internally generated revenue."

While appreciating the "magnanimity" of President Goodluck Jonathan to approve the $1billion from the excess crude account and to be shared among the federal, state and local governments, Odaah expressed disappointment with the returns made by the NNPC.

He said that [size=14pt]the states had requested for $2bn[/size] to complement for the shortfall in revenue but got only $1billion. In September, Odaah and fellow commissioners had walked out of the Accountant General of the Federation (AGF) when the federal government said that the framework of the 2013 budget was no longer realistic and it won't augment shortfall in revenue. Odaah raised issues with the statutory allocations of previous months.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:43pm On Apr 14, 2016
9jatatafo:


I feel the blame should be collective

It can not be collective. She withdrew the funds illegally. She broke the trust. Why should the Governors take any blame at all
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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:45pm On Apr 14, 2016
maupe:

I guess you also bought fuel on paper back then

Did I talk of Fuel? The economic growth figures were fake. The actions in the reserves and ECA showed the truth. The worst part was that we sold Crude over a $100. How she mismanaged such a windfall beats me.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by maupe: 6:46pm On Apr 14, 2016
Nusaf:

NOI was the Co-ordinating Minister of the Economy while GEJ was the President. So they are to take responsibility.
And they did. Something, that unfortunately, this current administration, has time and time again, failed to do.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:47pm On Apr 14, 2016
anonimi:
Reminder for those who may want to forget.



Reminder. This happened to the ECA before the Governors asked for theirs.

The FAAC meeting for November 2014 ended in confusion when the then Minister of State for Finance, Bashir Yuguda, could not explain how the balance in the ECA had dropped from $4.1 bn at the end of October to $3.1 bn.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/186229-faac-disowns-okonjo-iweala-denies-approving-withdrawal-of-2bn-excess-crude-funds.html

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 6:48pm On Apr 14, 2016
maupe:


Obama has already nominated Merrick Garland, but the Congress has refused to give him a hearing, not to talk of a confirmation. In 1989 President George Bush Snr got elected on the basis that he would cut taxes, but when the congress became dominated by Democrats, they made sure that he could not accomplish this. At the next election, he lost to Bill Clinton, for failing to fulfil his promise. Did he lack political will. Infact he went on live tv shortly after his election, and stated the famous "READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES" speech. Governance is not a bed of roses
We are discussing Nigeria matters and who are these ones disturbing us with American issues. Pls stop referring us to US cos it is not as if they are perfect.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by mavinc4u(f): 6:48pm On Apr 14, 2016
I really wonder when the blame game will stop.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by maupe: 6:48pm On Apr 14, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Did I talk of Fuel? The economic growth figures were fake. The actions in the reserves and ECA showed the truth. The worst part was that we sold Crude over a $100. How she mismanaged such a windfall beats me.
And the fuel you bought was simply methylated spirit. How your car was able to burn the fuel is indeed a mystery.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:49pm On Apr 14, 2016
maupe:

And they did. Something, that unfortunately, this current administration, has time and time again, failed to do.

You want this government to take blame for Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala and GEJ's wastage?

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by DrSuleiman100: 6:50pm On Apr 14, 2016
It is now clear to all the wailers that the current economic hardship is not just starting but an aftermath of bad leadership of the past government and the only thing we need do now is to keep praying for the current government to be able to actualize the good things they have for us . So, all the wailers should go and rest. Shikena.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:50pm On Apr 14, 2016
maupe:

And the fuel you bought was simply methylated spirit. How your car was able to burn the fuel is indeed a mystery.

Where did I talk of Petrol? You are just trying to evade the fact that the economic figures were fake.

If you want to celebrate importing Petrol, please do. I am waiting to celebrate us building refineries.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by chernest2002: 6:51pm On Apr 14, 2016
When have subsidy payment becomes a crime?
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 6:52pm On Apr 14, 2016
ChikezieU:
you are the clueless one, did he proposed for the money to be saved or not? Which people opposed it?
And what did he do about it in his capacity as the President on whose shoulders the economy rested?
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Kenmoris22: 6:57pm On Apr 14, 2016
I talk am before

Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Kenobus: 6:57pm On Apr 14, 2016
modath:


Una don start bah?

NOI talked about LACK OF WILL , check the meaning & "USAGE" before trying to engage in discuss far above your comprehension....

Amaechi, The all powerful arm twisted the 52% federal share out of Hero IB's control as well?

Like the ECA is even constitutional... undecided

Abegiii, exit stage left with your Amaechi induced Paranoia.......
This is the most intelligent comment on this issue. many are rushing to say what they dont understand. NOI never said GEJ lacks the political will but Nigerians as a whole. Some Nigerians supported the Governors then, now they are the ones shouting. GEJ is a democrat, he cant act like Obj who did many things with impunity. And to talk about it, what was the level of infrastures under Obj? There were no developments, save some few roads and IPP he started. Under GEJ, the States really did their best and GEJ transformed the country. It is really unfortunate we allowed an incompetent Bubu to come to stage. Nigerians should reap what they sowed.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by anonimi: 6:57pm On Apr 14, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
Reminder. This happened to the ECA before the Governors asked for theirs.

The FAAC meeting for November 2014 ended in confusion when the then Minister of State for Finance, Bashir Yuguda, could not explain how the balance in the ECA had dropped from $4.1 bn at the end of October to $3.1 bn.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/186229-faac-disowns-okonjo-iweala-denies-approving-withdrawal-of-2bn-excess-crude-funds.html

Since when did 2013 come AFTER 2014?
Maybe in zombie land aka BuhariSTAN grin
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by kachola: 6:58pm On Apr 14, 2016
AntiWailer:
Finally Bubu vindicated

Wailers can scream

Okonjo knew what they were doing was not sustainable.

She screamed in 2014

--Brace for tougher times ahead :
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/171145-brace-tougher-times-ahead-okonjo-iweala-tells-nigerians.html

--They borrowed money to pay salary
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/182543-nigerian-govt-borrowing-billions-to-pay-salaries-okonjo-iweala.html


Wailers know all these but when you mix tribal sentiment + political sentiment + religious sentiment , Brain disappears and you sit on Time Bomb.

To say they call people Zombie is very laughable because inability to use ones brain because of loyalty describes wailers better than anybody. They are the real ZOMBIE



One question for those blaming Governors for GEJ's failures "

How did we save Under Obasanjo ? You can't compare a leader with a vision and a visionless Leader. This is why IStandWithAnybodyButJonathan. Wailers can fill their burial form. I don't care.


"Jonathan only reigned he did not rule and was not in charge"
Obasanjo
No they will close their Eye and nose on what she had just said , they will not read it, but to come here and talk trash runs in their blood, foolish wailers

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by ChikezieU(m): 6:59pm On Apr 14, 2016
maupe:

And the fuel you bought was simply methylated spirit. How your car was able to burn the fuel is indeed a mystery.
lol guy you funny o,

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 6:59pm On Apr 14, 2016
chernest2002:
When have subsidy payment becomes a crime?
When a crime is committed in the payments, such as paying for fuel not imported.
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by mildflame: 7:01pm On Apr 14, 2016
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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 7:02pm On Apr 14, 2016
Kenobus:
This is the most intelligent comment on this issue. many are rushing to say what they dont understand. NOI never said GEJ lacks the political will but Nigerians as a whole. Some Nigerians supported the Governors then, now they are the ones shouting. GEJ is a democrat, he cant act like Obj who did many things with impunity. And to talk about it, what was the level of infrastures under Obj? There were no developments, save some few roads and IPP he started. Under GEJ, the States really did their best and GEJ transformed the country. It is really unfortunate we allowed an incompetent Bubu to come to stage. Nigerians should reap what they sowed.
A blind wailer spotted.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by ChikezieU(m): 7:04pm On Apr 14, 2016
Nusaf:

And what did he do about it in his capacity as the President on whose shoulders the economy rested?
r u supporting impunity
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Nusaf: 7:07pm On Apr 14, 2016
ChikezieU:
r u supporting impunity
How is this related to my question?
Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Kenobus: 7:10pm On Apr 14, 2016
Many are rushing to say what they dont understand. NOI never said GEJ lacks the political will but Nigerians as a whole. Some Nigerians supported the Governors then, now they are the ones shouting. GEJ is a democrat, he cant act like Obj who did many things with impunity. And to talk about it, what was the level of infrastures under Obj? There were no developments, save some few roads and IPP he started. Under GEJ, the States really did their best and recorded robust developments and GEJ transformed the country. He restored our rail lines, he did 25000km of roads from 5000; he completed many IPP, he did Auja-Kaduna rail line described as one of the best in the world, revolutionalised Agriculture; he took Trade and investment beyond measures and we are seeing the new entrants in the assemblage of cars; Toyota has joined. The Aviation sector was redefined, many idle airports were converted to Agro and cargo airports and are functional etc. It is really unfortunate we allowed an incompetent Bubu to come to stage. Nigerians should reap what they sowed.
GEJ did everything to save. First he tried using the Oil benchmark, the NASS frusted him, he resorted to direct saving, the Governors said no. It was his ingenuity that he was able to save $1.5b on SWF. Today, Nigeria is enjoying it.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by gifsCEC: 7:10pm On Apr 14, 2016
ChikezieU:
two key words "rascality" and "rule of law". Pick one

Fortunately for both of us, NOI who wore the shoes and knew where it pinched doesn't hold your view.

Her verdict is simply LACK OF POLITICAL WILL.

That's the one I chose

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by mildflame: 7:12pm On Apr 14, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
[b]FAAC disowns Okonjo-Iweala; denies approving withdrawal of $2bn Excess Crude funds


Commissioners of Finance and Accountants General of the 36 states of the federation on Tuesday distanced themselves from claims by the former Minister of Finance, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, that they were part of the decision to withdraw and spend $2bn from Nigeria’s excess crude oil revenue account last December.


"It has come to our notice the statement credited to the former Coordinating Minister of the Economy and Honorable Minister of Finance, Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, that the Federation Account Allocation Committee (FAAC) approved the withdrawal from Excess Crude (Foreign) Account the sum of Two Billion U.S. Dollar ($2,000,000,000.00),” the commissioners said.
“This statement is far from the fact and is misleading,” the statement said.

The FAAC meeting for November 2014 ended in confusion when the then Minister of State for Finance, Bashir Yuguda, could not explain how the balance in the ECA had dropped from $4.1 bn at the end of October to $3.1 bn.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/186229-faac-disowns-okonjo-iweala-denies-approving-withdrawal-of-2bn-excess-crude-funds.html
[/b]



Jonathan ordered me to withdraw $2bn from ECA to pay fuel subsidy – Okonjo-Iweala

Dr. Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, Nigeria’s former minister of finance said on Tuesday night that the $2 billion she was alleged to have withdrawn from Excess Crude Account without authorisation was used to pay for fuel subsidy on the instruction of former President Goodluck Jonathan.
http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2015/07/08/jonathan-ordered-me-to-withdraw-2bn-from-eca-to-pay-fuel-subsidy-okonjo-iweala/

Tell me why JONATHAN aint history DUMBEST President

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by Kenobus: 7:12pm On Apr 14, 2016
anonimi:
Reminder for those who may want to forget.


And they suddenly turned their back on GEJ. They requested for the $2b but denied later. GEJ has kept quiet as silence is the best answer to a fool.

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Re: "Nigeria's Problem; Lack Of Will To Save Under GEJ .. Okonjo Iweala ... Cableng by 9jatatafo(m): 7:12pm On Apr 14, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


It can not be collective. She withdrew the funds illegally. She broke the trust. Why should the Governors take any blame at all
.

You mean she withdrew the funds without the number citizen's consent? How come she has so much powers?

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