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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by Buharism: 2:11pm On Apr 14, 2016
truthman2012:


Trash !!!

You quoted the Quran without the context. I told you Elijah and prophets of Baal's were challenging one another about the power of their god and Elijah's God. Elijah's God defeated Baal and it's prophets had to lose their lives for it.

Muhammad said he had the order to fight the people till they accept islam. Is that a war situation? You have problems understanding simple things. Why are you blaming Boko Haram and ISIL for following Muhammad's examples? You love Muhammad but hate his followers, pure nonsense.

Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by Annunaki(m): 2:17pm On Apr 14, 2016
Buharism:
u said the quran is spreading hatred fine, Is the bible also teaching u to hate people, Must you behave like them to change them, did Jesus nt teach u to love those that hate you even your enemy.
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Luke 6:27-36 ESV / 242 helpful votes “But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

Dunce I never stated anywhere that I hate muslims. It is islam that I hate with a passion.

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by Buharism: 2:21pm On Apr 14, 2016
Annunaki:


Dunce I never stated anywhere that I hate muslims. It is islam that I hate with a passion.
Dunce u are same person attacking both islam and muslems, liar
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 2:30pm On Apr 14, 2016
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b]Buharism[/b]

You quoted the Quran without the context.

The quran does not have context. allahh didn't narrate anything relating it to any specific event.

If there is context in the quran, quote one in respect of killing of infidels.
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by Buharism: 3:53pm On Apr 14, 2016
truthman2012:
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The quran does not have context. allahh didn't narrate anything relating it to any specific event.

If there is context in the quran, quote one in respect of killing of infidels.
The highlighted are context that demand a retaliation/killing.
Quran 2:190 – 195
2:190 Fight in the way of God those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. God does not like transgressors .
2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you , and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing . And do not fight them at al- Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there . But if they fight you , then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, God is Forgiving and Merciful .
2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [Persecution] and [until] worship is for God. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.
2:194 [Fighting in] the sacred month is for [aggression committed in] the sacred month, and for [all] violations is legal retribution. So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you . And fear God and know that God is with those who fear Him.
2:195 And spend in the way of God and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, God loves the doers of good.

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 4:17pm On Apr 14, 2016
Buharism:

The highlighted are context that demand a retaliation/killing.
Quran 2:190 – 195
2:190 Fight in the way of God those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. God does not like transgressors .
2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you , and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing . And do not fight them at al- Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there . But if they fight you , then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, God is Forgiving and Merciful .
2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [Persecution] and [until] worship is for God. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.
2:194 [Fighting in] the sacred month is for [aggression committed in] the sacred month, and for [all] violations is legal retribution. So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you . And fear God and know that God is with those who fear Him.
2:195 And spend in the way of God and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, God loves the doers of good.

This is one of your quotes: 2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [Persecution] and [until] worship is for God. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

Meaning keep fighting people until worship is for allahh alone. Is this not what Book Haram, ISIL and other Islamic terrorists are doing ? Why do you blame them and not Muhammad?

Leave that alone and address the OP. What is your opinion about your people's claim that some hadiths are fabricated? Those of your brothers in islam who used to shout some hadiths are fabricated have withdrawn to their shell in the face of convincing proof. What do you say?
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by Buharism: 4:25pm On Apr 14, 2016
truthman2012:


This is one of your quotes: 2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [Persecution] and [until] worship is for God. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

Meaning keep fighting people until worship is for allahh alone. Is this not what Book Haram, ISIL and other Islamic terrorists are doing ? Why do you blame them and not Muhammad?

Leave that alone and address the OP. What is your opinion about your people's claim that some hadiths are fabricated? Those of your brothers in islam who used to shout some hadiths are fabricated have withdrawn to their shell in the face of convincing proof. What do you say?
Am not a muslem or an islamic scholar so i have no idea if they are fabricated or not. i only read the quran the way u do.

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by Rilwayne001: 6:27pm On Apr 14, 2016
truthman2012:


I have challenged them, I even mentioned some names, yet they have been hiding their faces.
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You are a very bad liar. You are a very deceitful person that one needs to be careful with. However you can only deceive those ignorant sheeps following you.

You said you mentioned our names, is that the correct spellings ofour moniker?

You are obviously a coward, and you've proven it times without number on here. Good to know though.

bastard coward, you have to abandon your thread, after you were showned how atrocious your God is, when are you going to come andprove otherwise?

even your retarded coadjutors couldn't help your sorry azz..smh

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 6:59pm On Apr 14, 2016
Rilwayne001:


You are a very bad liar. You are a very deceitful person that one needs to be careful with. However you can only deceive those ignorant sheeps following you.

You said you mentioned our names, is that the correct spellings ofour moniker?

You are obviously a coward, and you've proven it times without number on here. Good to know though.

bastard coward, you have to abandon your thread, after you were showned how atrocious your God is, when are you going to come andprove otherwise?

even your retarded coadjutors couldn't help your sorry azz..smh

Lol !!! Very lame excuse. If I misspelled your name, does it mean you didn't know I was referring to you? How did you now know I was referring to you, have I spelt your name correctly? Unintelligent excuse.

Which thread did I abandone, Mr terrorist? What happened in that thread, give the link.

Back to this OP, I haven't seen any refutal of yours other than your usual abuses, which have no effect. Or are you saying your abuses and insults are your defences? Bury your head in shame.

Why do you islamists lie that hadiths that show the dirts and evils of islam are fabricated?

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by Rilwayne001: 7:34pm On Apr 14, 2016
truthman2012:


Lol !!! Very lame excuse. If I misspelled your name, does it mean you didn't know I was referring to you? How did you now know I was referring to you, have spelt your name correctly? Unintelligent excuse.

you deliberately mispelt my name and that of my bro because you are a shameless coward.

Which thread did I abandone, Mr terrorist? What happened in that thread, give the link.

Lol..are you now feigning ignorance? anyways i am still waiting for you to prove that you are not a coward www.nairaland.com/3037548/quran-109-6-height-hypocrisy/1

Back to this OP, I haven't seen any refutal of yours other than your usual abuses, which have no effect. Or are you saying your abuses and insults are your defences? Bury your head in shame.
Why do you islamists lie that hadiths that show the dirts and evils of islam are fabricated?

Not so quick. we have to finish one before rushing to another.

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 8:26pm On Apr 14, 2016
Rilwayne001:


you deliberately mispelt my name and that of my bro because you are a shameless coward.



Lol..are you now feigning ignorance? anyways i am still waiting for you to prove that you are not a coward www.nairaland.com/3037548/quran-109-6-height-hypocrisy/1



Not so quick. we have to finish one before rushing to another.

Oh !!! That thread? I decided not to answer you guys because all you were doing was abuses and insults, just as you have shown here. It is your normal style to resort to indecent languages when you have no defence. The god you represent must be indecent to have you as his faithfuls.

Go back to the link to my thread and show what reasonable posts I didn't attend to.

On this particular OP to which you have said nothing, a liar like you is avoiding answering now and saying you are waiting till I respond to your abuses on other thread. You are unintelligently lying, deceiving yourself.

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 10:16am On Apr 15, 2016
Now that it has been established all hadiths by recognized writers are authentic, I will begin to examine some hadiths to see what they say about Muhammad and islam.

Muhammad a cross-dresser

Narrated by Abdullah ibn Abdel Wahab, narrated by Hamad, narrated by Hisham, narrated by his father who related that the people would present their gifts (to the prophet) when he was at Aisha’s house. The companions of Um Salamah said, “O Um Salamah! By Allah the people wait to give their gifts till it is Aisha’s day and we desire the good things just as Aisha does. So ask the prophet to command the people to give him his gifts in whatever house of his wives he may be in.” Um Salamah mentioned this to the prophet but would not respond to her. She repeated it a second time but he still would not respond to her, but on the third time he said, “O Um Salama! Do not hurt me with Aisha; for by Allah, the inspiration did not descent on me while I was in the coverings (lihaf) of any of you (women) except Aisha.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith Number 3941 Volume Title, “The Book of Virtues.” Chapter Title, “The Virtues of Aisha)

We can see Muhammad wearing Aisha's lihaf and lihaf of his other wives. A lihaf is a dress worn by women. In fact, he said he was receiving revelations when he was in a woman's dress. Was Muhammad a Cross- dresser?

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 3:30pm On Apr 15, 2016
As a Muslim, if today you see a man who calls himself a prophet wearing women's dresses, what will you say? Would you accept him as a prophet?

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by Annunaki(m): 3:46pm On Apr 15, 2016
truthman2012:
As a Muslim, if today you see a man who calls himself a prophet wearing women's dresses, what will you say? Would you accept him as a prophet?


If mohammed were to re appear today and live his life as he did then, 99% of muslims will reject him and label him as a fake prophet and criminal of of very low moral values.

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 4:36pm On Apr 15, 2016
Annunaki:



If mohammed were to re appear today and live his life as he did then, 99% of muslims will reject him and label him as a fake prophet and criminal of of very low moral values.

You are very correct.

How could a prophet of God be wearing women cloth? Anyway, he was said to be the only prophet of allahh, who is not the true God.
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by HomoSapiien: 5:43pm On Apr 15, 2016
truthman2012:
As a Muslim, if today you see a man who calls himself a prophet wearing women's dresses, what will you say? Would you accept him as a prophet?

I will probably not accept him as a prophet. How about if you see an unclad man, with no shoethat calls himself a prophet, what would you say? Would you accept him a as prophet?
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 6:25pm On Apr 15, 2016
HomoSapiien:


I will probably not accept him as a prophet. How about if you see an unclad man, with no shoethat calls himself a prophet, what would you say? Would you accept him a as prophet?

Unclad ?

That is too much na ?

Unless he is stripped n.aked by his enemies, he cannot be a prophet.
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 7:33pm On Apr 15, 2016
Muhammad Not Sure of Allah's Judgement For Him

Quran 46:9] Say: I am not the first of the messengers, and I do not know what will be done with me or with you: I do not follow anything but that which is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.

When confronted with that quranic verse that Muhammad wasn't sure of heaven, muslims say no, what it means is that Muhammad and the followers didn't know whether or not they would be killed and that the verse is not talking of afterlife. The following hadith explains that Muhammad was not sure of afterlife.


Narrated Anas: Whenever a strong wind blew, anxiety appeared on the face of the Prophet (fearing that wind might be a sign of Allah's wrath).
(Sahih Bukhari 2:17:144)

If he was sure of allahh's judgement, why the fear?
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by HomoSapiien: 8:07pm On Apr 15, 2016
truthman2012:


Unclad ?

That is too much na ?

Unless he is stripped n.aked by his enemies, he cannot be a prophet.

[i maybe Isaiah was not a prophet then as according to 20:3 /i]
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 8:54pm On Apr 15, 2016
HomoSapiien:


[i maybe Isaiah was not a prophet then as according to 20:3 /i]

Now I can see where you are going.

Isaiah 20:1-3
In the year that the supreme commander, sent by Sargon king of Assyria, came to Ashdod and attacked and captured it— 2 at that time the Lord spoke through Isaiah son of Amoz. He said to him, “Take off the sackcloth from your body and the sandals from your feet.” And he did so, going around stripped and barefoot.

3 Then the Lord said, “Just as my servant Isaiah has gone stripped and barefoot for three years, as a sign and portent against Egypt and Cush

When Israel was attacked by the enemies and made a spoil of them, Isaiah was grieved and he put on a sackcloth. A sackcloth is a cloth of sorrow. Then he was instructed by God to remove it and also his sandals. Please note that Isaiah didn't do it for pleasure and not by his own will. He did it as a sign and portent against Egypt as commanded by God.

Where was Muhammad instructed to wear women's cloth? He did it probably for sexual enjoyment like the gays and cross-dressers. Or what did he intend to achieve by wearing women's cloth and also braiding his hair?

See: http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2010/07/27/the-braids-of-the-messenger-of-allah-allah-bless-him-and-grant-him-peace/

Now back to the OP, do you believe some hadiths are fabricated?
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by HomoSapiien: 9:37pm On Apr 15, 2016
truthman2012:


Now I can see where you are going.

Isaiah 20:1-3
In the year that the supreme commander, sent by Sargon king of Assyria, came to Ashdod and attacked and captured it— 2 at that time the Lord spoke through Isaiah son of Amoz. He said to him, “Take off the sackcloth from your body and the sandals from your feet.” And he did so, going around stripped and barefoot.

3 Then the Lord said, “Just as my servant Isaiah has gone stripped and barefoot for three years, as a sign and portent against Egypt and Cush

When Israel was attacked by the enemies and made a spoil of them, Isaiah was grieved and he put on a sackcloth. A sackcloth is a cloth of sorrow. Then he was instructed by God to remove it and also his sandals. Please note that Isaiah didn't do it for pleasure and not by his own will. He did it as a sign and portent against Egypt as commanded by God.

Where was Muhammad instructed to wear women's cloth? He did it probably for sexual enjoyment like the gays and cross-dressers. Or what did he intend to achieve by wearing women's cloth and also braiding his hair?

See: http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2010/07/27/the-braids-of-the-messenger-of-allah-allah-bless-him-and-grant-him-peace/

Now back to the OP, do you believe some hadiths are fabricated?



Quran and Bible are same piss of nonsense. You know that don't you?
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 9:47pm On Apr 15, 2016
HomoSapiien:


Quran and Bible are same piss of nonsense. You know that don't you?

That is your opinion. You are entitled to your unbelief but you are fortunate not to have come to the world in the time of Muhammad, you would have been forced to drop your unbelief for islam, otherwise, your head would have been removed from your neck. Lucky you. But you will not be so lucky in the afterlife because your spirit will return to where it came and account for your life on earth.
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by HomoSapiien: 10:39pm On Apr 15, 2016
truthman2012:


That is your opinion. You are entitled to your unbelief but you are fortunate not to have come to the world in the time of Muhammad, you would have been forced to drop your unbelief for islam, otherwise, your head would have been removed from your neck. Lucky you. But you will not be so lucky in the afterlife because your spirit will return to where it came and account for your life on earth.

It isn't my opinion. It is the reAlity, don't you know the Bible like the quran is another shi
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 11:05pm On Apr 15, 2016
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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 11:05pm On Apr 15, 2016
HomoSapiien:


It isn't my opinion. It is the reAlity, don't you know the Bible like the quran is another shi

Sorry, this thread is not meant for atheists. Thank you.
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 9:35am On Apr 16, 2016
truthman2012:
Muhammad Not Sure of Allah's Judgement For Him

Quran 46:9] Say: I am not the first of the messengers, and I do not know what will be done with me or with you: I do not follow anything but that which is revealed to me, and I am nothing but a plain warner.

When confronted with that quranic verse that Muhammad wasn't sure of heaven, muslims say no, what it means is that Muhammad and the followers didn't know whether or not they would be killed and that the verse is not talking of afterlife. The following hadith explains that Muhammad was not sure of afterlife.


Narrated Anas: Whenever a strong wind blew, anxiety appeared on the face of the Prophet (fearing that wind might be a sign of Allah's wrath).
(Sahih Bukhari 2:17:144)

If he was sure of allahh's judgement, why the fear?

Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 9:57am On Apr 16, 2016
Still no comment from nairaland islamists. You better give your life to Jesus now that you have known those hadiths you call fabricated because they portray islam as indecent, which it really is.

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 6:23pm On Apr 16, 2016
Muhammad Hates For Allahh's Sake

"The strongest bond of faith is loyalty for the sake of Allah and opposition for His sake, love for the sake of Allah and enmity for His sake."
Abu Dawud 40:4582

Why do muslims talk of islam haters when they?also hate for allahh's sake?

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthman2012(m): 2:00pm On Apr 18, 2016
Rilwayne001:


Not so quick. we have to finish one before rushing to another.

Al-taqquiyah expert !!!

How long will it take you respond?

Blatant Liar like Muhammad and his quran.

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Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthmans2012: 5:17pm On Apr 20, 2016
truthman2012:


Al-taqquiyah expert !!!

How long will it take you respond?

Blatant Liar like Muhammad and his quran.
Re: Proof: No Hadith Was Fabricated, It Is A Lie !!! by truthmans2012: 8:32pm On Apr 26, 2016
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